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Calm down.Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:40 amShe has said it on multiple occasions over the last year but you didn't want to listen. You claimed the Covid update press conferences were nothing more than political campaigning by the Labour Party. Now you suddenly want her to go over it again for you.
Make up your mind, ffs. Or at least listen to what you are being told you fucking dense, petty, ignoramus.
She explained it in the press conference.Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:40 amShe has said it on multiple occasions over the last year but you didn't want to listen. You claimed the Covid update press conferences were nothing more than political campaigning by the Labour Party. Now you suddenly want her to go over it again for you.
Make up your mind, ffs. Or at least listen to what you are being told you fucking dense, petty, ignoramus.
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:51 amThe same sectors are being ravaged in Australia too. What are you suggesting that the NZ govt does? Open up to international tourists and students? What a stupid idea.
Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:40 amShe has said it on multiple occasions over the last year but you didn't want to listen. You claimed the Covid update press conferences were nothing more than political campaigning by the Labour Party. Now you suddenly want her to go over it again for you.
Make up your mind, ffs. Or at least listen to what you are being told you fucking dense, petty, ignoramus.
Eugenius wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:54 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:51 amThe same sectors are being ravaged in Australia too. What are you suggesting that the NZ govt does? Open up to international tourists and students? What a stupid idea.
He’s a very stupid individual.
Apologies for the post, but you sir are a dead set idiot. It needs to be said.Dark wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:57 amMuttonbirds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:40 amShe has said it on multiple occasions over the last year but you didn't want to listen. You claimed the Covid update press conferences were nothing more than political campaigning by the Labour Party. Now you suddenly want her to go over it again for you.
Make up your mind, ffs. Or at least listen to what you are being told you fucking dense, petty, ignoramus.
Put your purse down for a minute,
I need to find a facemask that is now mandatory to wear to get to work.
Nice. Almost popped in their the other day on our way back from New Chums beach. But it had been a long day and cold local beer was calling.booji boy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:19 amMy family has a bach in Matarangi which is about 20 minutes north just over the hill.Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:13 amWhitianga. Has been a good central base for exploring.booji boy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:09 amFat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:00 am I have two trips to Auckland in the next few weeks. Hopefully we can avoid a lockdown.
Mind you, I'm relaxing in the Coromandel at the moment so a government issued "stay in place" order wouldn't upset me too much...
What part of the Coromandel?
Enjoy!
I think there are three things going on. One is that they haven’t tied up the source. Then they are concerned about the movement of the family post infection. And thirdly, it’s a shot across the bow of an overly casual public.
Is that a subtle way of saying their oversight of MIQs is a tad shit?Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:39 amI think there are three things going on. One is that they haven’t tied up the source. Then they are concerned about the movement of the family post infection. And thirdly, it’s a shot across the bow of an overly casual public.
I haven't read much on this, so correct me if I'm wrong in my assumptions...but I imagine they've taken this course because this family haven't been using the tracer app and so they are not confident of their movements.Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:39 amI think there are three things going on. One is that they haven’t tied up the source. Then they are concerned about the movement of the family post infection. And thirdly, it’s a shot across the bow of an overly casual public.
If so that would cover both points 2 and 3 in combination.Jeff the Bear wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:24 amI haven't read much on this, so correct me if I'm wrong in my assumptions...but I imagine they've taken this course because this family haven't been using the tracer app and so they are not confident of their movements.Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:39 amI think there are three things going on. One is that they haven’t tied up the source. Then they are concerned about the movement of the family post infection. And thirdly, it’s a shot across the bow of an overly casual public.
We've also had a Waitangi weekend, fine weather, and lots of public gatherings over that period. Imagine if somebody infected attended the Six 60 concert in Wellington yesterday.Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:39 amI think there are three things going on. One is that they haven’t tied up the source. Then they are concerned about the movement of the family post infection. And thirdly, it’s a shot across the bow of an overly casual public.
A public flailing of Six60 then off to lockdown we go would suit me.Tehui wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:29 amWe've also had a Waitangi weekend, fine weather, and lots of public gatherings over that period. Imagine if somebody infected attended the Six 60 concert in Wellington yesterday.Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:39 amI think there are three things going on. One is that they haven’t tied up the source. Then they are concerned about the movement of the family post infection. And thirdly, it’s a shot across the bow of an overly casual public.
I mean, I guess it's fair enough since NZ and Aus are aiming for elimination, not just "coping with it". We don't really have that option in Europe.Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:14 pm They are treating thus case differently because they've yet to identify where us came from. There is a strong suspicion that the mother may have caught it from laundry from international flights given that is her job, but both her and the daughter displayed symptoms at the same time so they can't yet rule out that they may gave caught in the community. In which case there may be quite a chain of infected people between them and the breach.
Come on duuude!? Reggae sounds / cricket / Dunedin shout out.mr bungle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 amA public flailing of Six60 then off to lockdown we go would suit me.Tehui wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:29 amWe've also had a Waitangi weekend, fine weather, and lots of public gatherings over that period. Imagine if somebody infected attended the Six 60 concert in Wellington yesterday.Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:39 amI think there are three things going on. One is that they haven’t tied up the source. Then they are concerned about the movement of the family post infection. And thirdly, it’s a shot across the bow of an overly casual public.
I read an article on the internet that I'm now conflating with official government policy.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:22 pmI mean, I guess it's fair enough since NZ and Aus are aiming for elimination, not just "coping with it". We don't really have that option in Europe.Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:14 pm They are treating thus case differently because they've yet to identify where us came from. There is a strong suspicion that the mother may have caught it from laundry from international flights given that is her job, but both her and the daughter displayed symptoms at the same time so they can't yet rule out that they may gave caught in the community. In which case there may be quite a chain of infected people between them and the breach.
I read an article a few days ago suggesting vaccines or not, we will be battling coronavirus for five or six years yet. If that is true, it does make me question the elimination strategy. Is it realistic to (more or less) isolate your island nation from the outside world and go into lockdown every time it creeps in and infects two or three people for the next half decade or more?
I dunno. Maybe. But at some point the costs must outweigh the benefit to society.
Students are generally of the age that does not give two fucks about this virus. I would not trust them for a second and wholly support the Govt stance. I know the UK is accepting them and killing off their elders but we don't have to follow suit.Dark wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:00 amEugenius wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:54 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:51 amThe same sectors are being ravaged in Australia too. What are you suggesting that the NZ govt does? Open up to international tourists and students? What a stupid idea.
He’s a very stupid individual.
I think Unis with govt over sight would do a better job of MIQ in halls that are purpose built than the govt are cocking up in hotels,
You are actually rare on this forum in that despite all the shit talk and ribbing, you come across like a genuine c-nt nobody would want to even share a beer with. What's your problem?RuggaBugga wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:52 pmI read an article on the internet that I'm now conflating with official government policy.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:22 pmI mean, I guess it's fair enough since NZ and Aus are aiming for elimination, not just "coping with it". We don't really have that option in Europe.Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:14 pm They are treating thus case differently because they've yet to identify where us came from. There is a strong suspicion that the mother may have caught it from laundry from international flights given that is her job, but both her and the daughter displayed symptoms at the same time so they can't yet rule out that they may gave caught in the community. In which case there may be quite a chain of infected people between them and the breach.
I read an article a few days ago suggesting vaccines or not, we will be battling coronavirus for five or six years yet. If that is true, it does make me question the elimination strategy. Is it realistic to (more or less) isolate your island nation from the outside world and go into lockdown every time it creeps in and infects two or three people for the next half decade or more?
I dunno. Maybe. But at some point the costs must outweigh the benefit to society.
Just do one fuckwit. No one cares what you think.
They have been talking about our eventual need to live with it. But that's something to consider after Most of NZ and the main destinations we might open up for have been vaccinated. So unlikely to be considered realistically until next year.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:22 pmI mean, I guess it's fair enough since NZ and Aus are aiming for elimination, not just "coping with it". We don't really have that option in Europe.Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:14 pm They are treating thus case differently because they've yet to identify where us came from. There is a strong suspicion that the mother may have caught it from laundry from international flights given that is her job, but both her and the daughter displayed symptoms at the same time so they can't yet rule out that they may gave caught in the community. In which case there may be quite a chain of infected people between them and the breach.
I read an article a few days ago suggesting vaccines or not, we will be battling coronavirus for five or six years yet. If that is true, it does make me question the elimination strategy. Is it realistic to (more or less) isolate your island nation from the outside world and go into lockdown every time it creeps in and infects two or three people for the next half decade or more?
I dunno. Maybe. But at some point the costs must outweigh the benefit to society.
Fair enough.Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:22 pmThey have been talking about our eventual need to live with it. But that's something to consider after Most of NZ and the main destinations we might open up for have been vaccinated. So unlikely to be considered realistically until next year.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:22 pmI mean, I guess it's fair enough since NZ and Aus are aiming for elimination, not just "coping with it". We don't really have that option in Europe.Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:14 pm They are treating thus case differently because they've yet to identify where us came from. There is a strong suspicion that the mother may have caught it from laundry from international flights given that is her job, but both her and the daughter displayed symptoms at the same time so they can't yet rule out that they may gave caught in the community. In which case there may be quite a chain of infected people between them and the breach.
I read an article a few days ago suggesting vaccines or not, we will be battling coronavirus for five or six years yet. If that is true, it does make me question the elimination strategy. Is it realistic to (more or less) isolate your island nation from the outside world and go into lockdown every time it creeps in and infects two or three people for the next half decade or more?
I dunno. Maybe. But at some point the costs must outweigh the benefit to society.
How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Who is going to staff all these Uni halls? The RAs? Where are the current students going to go?Dark wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:00 amEugenius wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:54 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:51 amThe same sectors are being ravaged in Australia too. What are you suggesting that the NZ govt does? Open up to international tourists and students? What a stupid idea.
He’s a very stupid individual.
I think Unis with govt over sight would do a better job of MIQ in halls that are purpose built than the govt are cocking up in hotels,
Agree. Need to ditch some of the stupid "degree" courses they run, like basket weaving and tofu knitting.But back to your previous point, Oz is in the same boat with international students - arguably both NZ and Oz higher ed sectors are too over reliant on them so they will both need to reassess their models.
He is a genuine cvnt but I've had beers with him in the past and would happily do so again.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:41 pmYou are actually rare on this forum in that despite all the shit talk and ribbing, you come across like a genuine c-nt nobody would want to even share a beer with. What's your problem?RuggaBugga wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:52 pmI read an article on the internet that I'm now conflating with official government policy.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:22 pmI mean, I guess it's fair enough since NZ and Aus are aiming for elimination, not just "coping with it". We don't really have that option in Europe.Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:14 pm They are treating thus case differently because they've yet to identify where us came from. There is a strong suspicion that the mother may have caught it from laundry from international flights given that is her job, but both her and the daughter displayed symptoms at the same time so they can't yet rule out that they may gave caught in the community. In which case there may be quite a chain of infected people between them and the breach.
I read an article a few days ago suggesting vaccines or not, we will be battling coronavirus for five or six years yet. If that is true, it does make me question the elimination strategy. Is it realistic to (more or less) isolate your island nation from the outside world and go into lockdown every time it creeps in and infects two or three people for the next half decade or more?
I dunno. Maybe. But at some point the costs must outweigh the benefit to society.
Just do one fuckwit. No one cares what you think.
RuggaBugga just seems like a genuinely grumpy bugger who's first response is always negative/attack mode. He's not that bad once you get past the initial gruff exterior.Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:53 pmHe is a genuine cvnt but I've had beers with him in the past and would happily do so again.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:41 pm
You are actually rare on this forum in that despite all the shit talk and ribbing, you come across like a genuine c-nt nobody would want to even share a beer with. What's your problem?
That plus Mog's constant mindless thinking aloud. A vicious cocktail for an internet forum.booji boy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:09 amRuggaBugga just seems like a genuinely grumpy bugger who's first response is always negative/attack mode. He's not that bad once you get past the initial gruff exterior.Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:53 pmHe is a genuine cvnt but I've had beers with him in the past and would happily do so again.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:41 pm
You are actually rare on this forum in that despite all the shit talk and ribbing, you come across like a genuine c-nt nobody would want to even share a beer with. What's your problem?
mr bungle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:14 amThat plus Mog's constant mindless thinking aloud. A vicious cocktail for an internet forum.booji boy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:09 amRuggaBugga just seems like a genuinely grumpy bugger who's first response is always negative/attack mode. He's not that bad once you get past the initial gruff exterior.Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:53 pmHe is a genuine cvnt but I've had beers with him in the past and would happily do so again.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:41 pm
You are actually rare on this forum in that despite all the shit talk and ribbing, you come across like a genuine c-nt nobody would want to even share a beer with. What's your problem?
Our health system would not have copped if we had let covid in to any extent greater than it has been. Period.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:22 pmI mean, I guess it's fair enough since NZ and Aus are aiming for elimination, not just "coping with it". We don't really have that option in Europe.Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:14 pm They are treating thus case differently because they've yet to identify where us came from. There is a strong suspicion that the mother may have caught it from laundry from international flights given that is her job, but both her and the daughter displayed symptoms at the same time so they can't yet rule out that they may gave caught in the community. In which case there may be quite a chain of infected people between them and the breach.
I read an article a few days ago suggesting vaccines or not, we will be battling coronavirus for five or six years yet. If that is true, it does make me question the elimination strategy. Is it realistic to (more or less) isolate your island nation from the outside world and go into lockdown every time it creeps in and infects two or three people for the next half decade or more?
I dunno. Maybe. But at some point the costs must outweigh the benefit to society.
I concur.Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:53 pmHe is a genuine cvnt but I've had beers with him in the past and would happily do so again.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:41 pmYou are actually rare on this forum in that despite all the shit talk and ribbing, you come across like a genuine c-nt nobody would want to even share a beer with. What's your problem?RuggaBugga wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:52 pmI read an article on the internet that I'm now conflating with official government policy.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:22 pmI mean, I guess it's fair enough since NZ and Aus are aiming for elimination, not just "coping with it". We don't really have that option in Europe.Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:14 pm They are treating thus case differently because they've yet to identify where us came from. There is a strong suspicion that the mother may have caught it from laundry from international flights given that is her job, but both her and the daughter displayed symptoms at the same time so they can't yet rule out that they may gave caught in the community. In which case there may be quite a chain of infected people between them and the breach.
I read an article a few days ago suggesting vaccines or not, we will be battling coronavirus for five or six years yet. If that is true, it does make me question the elimination strategy. Is it realistic to (more or less) isolate your island nation from the outside world and go into lockdown every time it creeps in and infects two or three people for the next half decade or more?
I dunno. Maybe. But at some point the costs must outweigh the benefit to society.
Just do one fuckwit. No one cares what you think.
He's genuinely excellent cvnt to have a chinwag and a beer with.
Do we know how many community tests have been carried out?