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Lots of the time on TV was taken with showing replays. 23 seconds is ample isn’t it?
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Absolutely. Perfectly ample.

Gauzere's decisions were entirely normal and not dodgy in the slightest.

Nothing to see here.
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Come to think of it - didn't he do exactly the same thing in the Wales England warm-up game after he'd sent an englishman off? Allowed a quick tap as he turned to walk off the field?
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message #2527204 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:38 pm Come to think of it - didn't he do exactly the same thing in the Wales England warm-up game after he'd sent an englishman off? Allowed a quick tap as he turned to walk off the field?
Maybe it's his thing, not to give warnings? He was the same with offsides. In all honesty I don't know if I like his hardass approach or not.
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I think one of the best gauges is to ask yourself how you'd feel if he did the same thing to your own side.
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23 seconds would seem like an age if you had to wait that long before being able to skip the ads on YouTube.
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AND-y wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:39 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:38 pm Come to think of it - didn't he do exactly the same thing in the Wales England warm-up game after he'd sent an englishman off? Allowed a quick tap as he turned to walk off the field?
Maybe it's his thing, not to give warnings? He was the same with offsides. In all honesty I don't know if I like his hardass approach or not.
Once bitten twice shy. They should have known him.
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About 22 more seconds than Honiss allowed all those years back.
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He clearly ballsed it up, but lovely thinking and kicking from Biggar.

When people mention Faz as a test match animal, I instantly think of biggar.
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Fat Old Git wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:42 pm 23 seconds would seem like an age if you had to wait that long before being able to skip the ads on YouTube.
:lol: So true. 5 seconds pisses me off as it is. :thumbup:
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The whole offending team knows what they did: they do not need their captain to explain it to them. It is just an opportunity to have a breather and re-group.


Harden up, Pommies!!!
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wamberal wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:12 pm The whole offending team knows what they did: they do not need their captain to explain it to them. It is just an opportunity to have a breather and re-group.


Harden up, Pommies!!!
He was specifically told by the referee to go and talk to his team.
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wamberal wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:12 pm The whole offending team knows what they did: they do not need their captain to explain it to them. It is just an opportunity to have a breather and re-group.


Harden up, Pommies!!!
They were in a huddle because the ref told the captain to talk to his team. Had the ref not done so they would have been lined up ready to defend. Utterly crazy reffing.
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He saw one or two break from the huddle, but most were still in it I think. And he blew whistle. He was looking right at a circle of players under their posts.

Oh well. We are effing stupid beyond reproach. Maybe we'll learn, but probably not
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:57 pm He clearly ballsed it up, but lovely thinking and kicking from Biggar.

When people mention Faz as a test match animal, I instantly get bigger.
Fixed.
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Biggar asked him to tell him when time was back on. He practically gave him a wink :lol:
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It's enough. What's there to say? He just needed to jog back give a few quick words as he slots back into position. The "few words" is actually letting them off the hook as it delays handing out cards

England got in a huddle and took a drinks break. They deserved to conceed thst try.
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Good game is a fast game.
Too many stoppages anyway - speed it up, encourage and reward quick play. Where not paying to watch guys stand around, drink, and receive instructions via the water boys.
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Did Farrell ask the ref to stop the clock whilst he had a word ?; which I thought was de rigueur of captains since ROG pulled the same trick against the saffers ?

Unless you get the ref to stop the clock, your problem.
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Gwenno wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:33 pm Lots of the time on TV was taken with showing replays. 23 seconds is ample isn’t it?
The ref says to England "time is off " then about 6 seconds later blows his whistle.
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Gwenno wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:33 pm Lots of the time on TV was taken with showing replays. 23 seconds is ample isn’t it?
Yep, maybe the captain needs to spend less time arguing with the ref and more time paying attention to what is going on in the game...
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Ref seemed to blow time on as soon as the huddle started to break up, only thing I can think is the ref assumed Wales were going to take the shot at goal
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camroc1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:32 am Did Farrell ask the ref to stop the clock whilst he had a word ?; which I thought was de rigueur of captains since ROG pulled the same trick against the saffers ?

Unless you get the ref to stop the clock, your problem.
The ref says to England "time is off " then about 6 seconds later blows his whistle.
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Never kick the ball across your own goalmouth in soccer.

Always play to the whistle.

Never trust the referee when he says "go back and talk to your team". It needs to be taught to kids that this phrase means nothing. No one should be caught out again.
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How long does it take to tell 14 professional rugby players with an average over 200 professional games each not to break the laws of the game? Less than six seconds....

We moan about refs not having a feel for the game - how about players.
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Jerome Manning wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:13 am Never kick the ball across your own goalmouth in soccer.

Always play to the whistle.

Never trust the referee when he says "go back and talk to your team". It needs to be taught to kids that this phrase means nothing. No one should be caught out again.
That is not what caught them out. The 23 seconds in the thread title is misleading. Yes it was 23 seconds after the ref told Farrell to have a word with his team. It was later when the ref shouted to England that "time is off" that is what caught them out because within 6 seconds he had walked over to the Welsh fly half and said time is on to him only and blew his whistle.
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:40 am How long does it take to tell 14 professional rugby players with an average over 200 professional games each not to break the laws of the game? Less than six seconds....

We moan about refs not having a feel for the game - how about players.
You target less than 10 penalties per game, Eng have been 13, 13 and now 14. The indiscipline issue would have been high on the agenda with Eddie and the senior players. I agree, Faz just needs to say NO FACKING PENALTIES LADS. Its 15 minutes into the game. So naive to bring all his team into a huddle like that. He enabled that try.
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Might be worthwhile revisiting the protocol and instructing the ref to let both captains know when time is back on, not just the flyhalf of the team in possession.

That said, the English winger should never have left his post, no matter who has been told to talk to him.
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DOB wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:51 am Might be worthwhile revisiting the protocol and instructing the ref to let both captains know when time is back on, not just the flyhalf of the team in possession.

That said, the English winger should never have left his post, no matter who has been told to talk to him.

Fair .... and I think it was Ford who tackled Adams.
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DOB wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:51 am Might be worthwhile revisiting the protocol and instructing the ref to let both captains know when time is back on, not just the flyhalf of the team in possession.

That said, the English winger should never have left his post, no matter who has been told to talk to him.
Correct.
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Fool me once, shame on you

Fool me twice ....

You know the rest
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Has any side had more of a charmed run than this Wales side in the Six Nations?

It's like the Springboks at a world cup.
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[quote="Monkey Magic "... only thing I can think is the ref assumed Wales were going to take the shot at goal
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As did I and everyone else watching, including the England team. That’s what caught them out. Schoolboy error.
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DOB wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:51 am Might be worthwhile revisiting the protocol and instructing the ref to let both captains know when time is back on, not just the flyhalf of the team in possession.

That said, the English winger should never have left his post, no matter who has been told to talk to him.
I don't really think protocols are the issue. When something like this happens I think you just have to wear it and get on with it. World Rugby should take it up with the ref. If he intentionally wanted to fuck one team a good idea would be to tell them time was off then immediately go to the opposing fly-half and tell them time was on giving the other side no time to prepare.
This incident should be hanging over this refs career for some time to come and he should know within a given time frame anything similar would be curtains.
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camroc1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:32 am Did Farrell ask the ref to stop the clock whilst he had a word ?; which I thought was de rigueur of captains since ROG pulled the same trick against the saffers ?

Unless you get the ref to stop the clock, your problem.


He quite clearly indicates to Farrell time is off .
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23 secs is more than enough to follow the ref’s instruction to communicate with team In a meaningful way.

Goodness, in 23 secs the forwards have almost started removing bits of sod from their studs before commencing the 5 min scrum. In 23 secs the players are almost part way through having a get together before a lineout.....
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:42 am
Jerome Manning wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:13 am Never kick the ball across your own goalmouth in soccer.

Always play to the whistle.

Never trust the referee when he says "go back and talk to your team". It needs to be taught to kids that this phrase means nothing. No one should be caught out again.
That is not what caught them out. The 23 seconds in the thread title is misleading. Yes it was 23 seconds after the ref told Farrell to have a word with his team. It was later when the ref shouted to England that "time is off" that is what caught them out because within 6 seconds he had walked over to the Welsh fly half and said time is on to him only and blew his whistle.
I’ve looked at it again this morning. 23 seconds from ‘have a word with your team’ but the clock was actually STOPPED for 37 seconds according to my wristwatch. The first 14 seconds were taken with the ref calling Faz over for a chat. The fact that the clock had already stopped implies that he had already said time off. This is not the only time where teams get caught out expecting a kick at goal. Not 6 seconds. Have another look.
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grubberkick wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:08 am 23 secs is more than enough to follow the ref’s instruction to communicate with team In a meaningful way.

Goodness, in 23 secs the forwards have almost started removing bits of sod from their studs before commencing the 5 min scrum. In 23 secs the players are almost part way through having a get together before a lineout.....
it was 6 seconds really. Time between 'time off' and 'time on'.

anyway, surely if he looks up and sees players in a circle under their posts he should shout 'time' or something?

I reiterate, we are a stupid team that deserved to lose, but Wales didn't need help
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jdogscoop wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:14 am0
Has any side had more of a charmed run than this Wales side in the Six Nations?

It's like the Springboks at a world cup.
I love it when a few bitter tears get shed so long after the event. It's such an added bonus, like finding some chips at the bottom of the packet after you thought they were all finished.
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JamesJames wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:59 am
jdogscoop wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:14 am0
Has any side had more of a charmed run than this Wales side in the Six Nations?

It's like the Springboks at a world cup.
I love it when a few bitter tears get shed so long after the event. It's such an added bonus, like finding some chips at the bottom of the packet after you thought they were all finished.

Personally, I find amusement comes in reading the tribal, goggle-watcher comments.
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