Planet Rugby Forum

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:05 am

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:08 am Hey EDF, I see your pin up boy Tucker is losing it over the Chauvin outcome.

Not a good look

How is Tucker my pin-up boy when I don't even agree with his politics? I've have pointed out on multiple occasions, including the posts that trigged you earlier this week, that he can not credibly defend his own politics because they are bollocks, he's only good at making points about the impact of corporate politics and the reducing middle classes in his attacks on the left?

No doubt a simpleton like you was never able to comprehend any of this in your desperate pursuit to try to score points against me. Largely because you think beyond simpleton "US right, others all wrong" perspectives on politics and society as the angle of your constant attacks seem to demonstrate.

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:06 pm

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:59 pm Your boy imploded on tv, I'm not the one sitting here with egg on my face

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:56 pm Life is better when you put the likes of Nipple on ignore.

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:59 pm

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:56 pm Life is better when you put the likes of Nipple on ignore.

It's just as amusing to let his vacuous idiocy expose itself.

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:59 pm

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:56 pm Life is better when you put the likes of Nipple on ignore.

It's just as amusing to let his vacuous idiocy expose itself.

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:06 pm

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:59 pm

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:56 pm Life is better when you put the likes of Nipple on ignore.

It's just as amusing to let his vacuous idiocy expose itself.

He is relentlessly horrible. There are a few like that. I have muted them.

I even muted anon, although you can never be totally sure.

brat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:34 am IMHO..they are both arseholes

One holds a guy down for 9 mins and kills him..the other holds a gun to a pregnant woman

The worlds better off without both of them

4071 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:58 am

AND-y wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:38 am I was watching Crowder, Shapiro and Carlson reactions to this for my daily hate, America is so f**ked up.

Carlson is really not taking it well.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1384688301962141697

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/stat ... 0058445826

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:04 am

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:01 am

Yer Man wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:20 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:57 pm

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:30 pm Dershowitz is knocking on a bit now, but it still sharper than Waters and Pelosi

Is he guy guy who is good friends with Maxwell and spent time with young girls on the convicted dead Paedophile Epstein's Island?
Flown there on Private Jets and massaged by young nubile girls?

Yup.

Defended Epstein on state charges and later brokered a deal with Federal authorities for non-prosecution of Epstein.

Also defended Harvey Weinstein.

Sounds like he's worse than the vile people he defends. I'm picturing that lawyer off 'The Wire'

Vile human being.

bessantj wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:10 pm

4071 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:58 am

AND-y wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:38 am I was watching Crowder, Shapiro and Carlson reactions to this for my daily hate, America is so f**ked up.

Carlson is really not taking it well.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1384688301962141697

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/stat ... 0058445826

I knew who Crowder and Shapiro were but not Carlson. Is he always like that? Seems a bit crackers.

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:16 pm

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:59 pm

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:56 pm Life is better when you put the likes of Nipple on ignore.

It's just as amusing to let his vacuous idiocy expose itself.

Just own it, your boy is showing his true colours

Derek Chauvin’s lawyer has filed a motion demanding a new trial takes place after the former officer was convicted of the murder of George Floyd.

The four-page document was filed on May 4 by attorney Eric Nelson who argued that a number of errors were made during the trial.

It claims the former officer’s constitutional rights were violated, which means it wasn’t a due process.

Nelson also argued that mistakes had been made by Hennepin Judge Peter Cahill, including prosecutorial misconduct, juror misconduct, witness intimidation, and the impact of publicity.

However, a specific incident or juror wasn’t specified.

The lawyer stated: “The publicity here was so pervasive and so prejudicial before and during this trial that it amounted to a structural defect in the proceedings.”

Deputy chief of staff for Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison has now responded to the motion, telling CNN: “The court has already rejected many of these arguments and the State will vigorously oppose them.”

According to a juror on the high-profile case, there wasn’t ‘any pressure’ to reach a guilty verdict.

Brandon Mitchell told ABC News that he and the 11 other people in the jury didn’t watch the news in the build-up to the trial of the former Minneapolis police officer.

He commented: “We were really just locked in on the case.

“I mean, those things are just so secondary because you’re literally, throughout the trial, watching somebody die on a daily basis, so that stress alone is enough to take your mind away from whatever’s going on outside of the four walls of the courtroom.”

During the trial, the jury watched a clip of Chauvin, 45, as he knelt on Mr Floyd’s neck for over nine minutes when arresting him on May 25, 2020.

Eventually, a guilty verdict was reached for all his charges, including second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.

puku wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:08 pm One year ago today George Floyd was murdered by Derek Chauvin setting in motion a series of events that would roil and sweep the globe.

Chauvin will be sentenced shortly.

In order to sentence Chauvin to more time, a jury -- or a judge, in this case -- must find that "aggravating factors" exist. In a ruling Tuesday, Judge Peter Cahill agreed with prosecutors that four such factors exist -- that Chauvin committed a crime in front of a child, that Chauvin acted with particular cruelty, that he acted as part of a group, and that he abused his position of trust and authority as a police officer.

Cahill, however, did not find that Floyd was "particularly vulnerable" because he was handcuffed, a fifth aggravating factor that prosecutors had sought.

Cahill found Chauvin's restraint of Floyd was "an egregious abuse of authority" because "the prolonged maneuver was employed after George Floyd had already been handcuffed and continued for more than four and a half minutes after Mr. Floyd had ceased talking and had become unresponsive."

Cahill also found that Chauvin acted with particular cruelty because he killed Floyd slowly despite Floyd's pleas that he couldn't breathe. Floyd was "begging for his life and obviously terrified by the knowledge that he was likely to die" but Chauvin "objectively remained indifferent to Floyd's pleas."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/derek-chau ... g-factors/

puku wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:15 pm Chauvin gets 22 years and six months. A good outcome.

Entry point was 12 years so an extra 10.5 years based on the aggravating circumstances. And, he is banned from owning firearms for life, which might not be for long.

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:19 pm

puku wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:15 pm Chauvin gets 22 years and six months. A good outcome.

Entry point was 12 years so an extra 10.5 years based on the aggravating circumstances. And, he is banned from owning firearms for life, which might not be for long.

When you see some cops get less than 10 years for murder it is a good result. Crazy when you think there is a guy doing life no possibility of parole for stealing a typewriter

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:19 pm

puku wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:15 pm Chauvin gets 22 years and six months. A good outcome.

Entry point was 12 years so an extra 10.5 years based on the aggravating circumstances. And, he is banned from owning firearms for life, which might not be for long.

When you see some cops get less than 10 years for murder it is a good result. Crazy when you think there is a guy doing life no possibility of parole for stealing a typewriter

puku wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:53 am Chauvin pleads guilty to the Federal charges against hime. Likely got a plea deal around where he will do his time.

Not doing his three erstwhile colleagues any favors in their up coming trials.

puku wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:13 am Chauvin's fellow MPD cops J. Alexander Kueng, Thomas Lane and Tou Thao have been found guilty of all federal charges against them including violating George Floyd’s civil rights.

puku wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:53 am Chauvin pleads guilty to the Federal charges against hime. Likely got a plea deal around where he will do his time.

Not doing his three erstwhile colleagues any favors in their up coming trials.

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:38 am

puku wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:13 am Chauvin's fellow MPD cops J. Alexander Kueng, Thomas Lane and Tou Thao have been found guilty of all federal charges against them including violating George Floyd’s civil rights.

Kueng was on his third shift and I feel sorry for him. I honestly think most people would have done what he did and told Chauvin the guy had no pulse and asked should we put him in the recovery position. Once Chauvin said no he was in an impossible position.

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:48 am

puku wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:53 am Chauvin pleads guilty to the Federal charges against hime. Likely got a plea deal around where he will do his time.

Not doing his three erstwhile colleagues any favors in their up coming trials.

Glad to see Arberys mother got the McMurderers plea deal kicked out against the wishes of the DoJ and they do not go to Federal prisons.

puku wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:50 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:38 am

puku wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:13 am Chauvin's fellow MPD cops J. Alexander Kueng, Thomas Lane and Tou Thao have been found guilty of all federal charges against them including violating George Floyd’s civil rights.

Kueng was on his third shift and I feel sorry for him. I honestly think most people would have done what he did and told Chauvin the guy had no pulse and asked should we put him in the recovery position. Once Chauvin said no he was in an impossible position.

Thao had his back to what was going on for large parts too. All three suffered from an association with Chauvin. If PDs enhance their training to include intervention then some good will come of this whole ugly saga.

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:01 am

puku wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:50 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:38 am

Kueng was on his third shift and I feel sorry for him. I honestly think most people would have done what he did and told Chauvin the guy had no pulse and asked should we put him in the recovery position. Once Chauvin said no he was in an impossible position.

Thao had his back to what was going on for large parts too. All three suffered from an association with Chauvin. If PDs enhance their training to include intervention then some good will come of this whole ugly saga.

Lets face it if any of them had intervened with what Chauvin was doing and Floyd had survived their lives in the police would have been made intolerable

Winnie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:40 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:01 am

puku wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:50 am

Thao had his back to what was going on for large parts too. All three suffered from an association with Chauvin. If PDs enhance their training to include intervention then some good will come of this whole ugly saga.

Lets face it if any of them had intervened with what Chauvin was doing and Floyd had survived their lives in the police would have been made intolerable

Nonsense

Black Buffalo police officer fired for trying to stop chokehold wins ruling, to get pension
By Evan Simko-Bednarski, CNN

April 15, 2021
A Black police officer in Buffalo, New York, who was fired in 2008 for intervening when a White colleague employed a chokehold will be given back pay and a pension, a New York judge ruled.

The officer, Cariol Horne, was fired following a 2006 incident in which she tried to stop an officer from using a chokehold on a handcuffed suspect. Horne served on the Buffalo police force for 19 of the 20 years required to receive a pension.
"The message was sent that you don't cross that blue line and so some officers -- many officers don't," Horne said in a 2020 interview with CNN's Brianna Keilar.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/14/us/b ... index.html

Police officer caught choking colleague who tried to stop him attacking suspect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bo2ymxZhlw

Winnie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:23 am I’ve more US police officers in my family than you I’d guess

If you think they would have been ostracised by the entire police force for stopping chauvin is utter nonsense

Winnie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:23 am I’ve more US police officers in my family than you I’d guess

If you think they would have been ostracised by the entire police force for stopping chauvin is utter nonsense

koroke hangareka wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:43 am

Winnie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:23 am I’ve more US police officers in my family than you I’d guess

If you think they would have been ostracised by the entire police force for stopping chauvin is utter nonsense

Not exactly what he said, is it?

koroke hangareka wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:43 am

Winnie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:23 am I’ve more US police officers in my family than you I’d guess

If you think they would have been ostracised by the entire police force for stopping chauvin is utter nonsense

Not exactly what he said, is it?

Police agencies increasingly are creating, or strengthening, intervention policies and training. Following Floyd’s death last year, the San Diego Police Department adopted several reforms, including making it a duty for officers to stop others from using unreasonable force.

That can run into a “blue wall of silence,” the police culture that discourages reporting or acting on a colleague’s misconduct, including police brutality. But the wall crumbled during the Chauvin trial as fellow officers, experts and even the chief of police criticized Chauvin for his actions, which included kneeling on Floyd for more than nine minutes.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/co ... sive-force