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As selected by Sachin Tendulkar, Nasser Hussain, Younis Khan, Ricky Ponting, Sourav Ganguly, Shahid Afridi, Bob Willis, Kumar Sangakkara, Graham Gooch, Daniel Vettori, Brendon McCullum, Alastair Cook, Stuart Broad, Joe Root, Darren Gough, Jason Holder, Phil Tufnell, Eoin Morgan, Waqar Younis, Allan Donald, Brendon McCullum, Alec Stewart, Jonathan Trott, Kumar Dharmasena, Jonny Bairstow, Marcus Trescothick, Ian Bell, Jason Gillespie and Jacques Kallis

Done between 1 and 4 years ago, mostly on https://www.youtube.com/c/lordscricketg ... 0time%20xi

Core:
Shane Warne 27/29
Jacques Kallis 24/28
Sachin Tendulkar 23/28
Brian Lara 21/29
Ricky Ponting 19/28
Glenn McGrath 19/29
Adam Gilchrist (WK) 18/29

Some honourable mentions:
Wasim Akram 14/29
Matthew Hayden 11/29
Kumar Sangakkara 10/29
Mutthiah Muralitharan 8/29
Curtley Ambrose 6/29
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How many voted for themselves? :lol:

How did anyone NOT vote for Muralitharan ?
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Grandpa wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:58 am How many voted for themselves? :lol:

How did anyone NOT vote for Muralitharan ?
Only Flintoff and as he selected the 2005 England team I didn't include his selection
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Grandpa wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:58 am How many voted for themselves? :lol:

How did anyone NOT vote for Muralitharan ?
I guess after facing him many, many times some decided to select someone else. How is it difficult to understand that a lot of great players rate Shane Warne higher?

There are other results that are far more surprising to me.
- Ambrose only 6 votes? 😮
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towny wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:30 am
Grandpa wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:58 am How many voted for themselves? :lol:

How did anyone NOT vote for Muralitharan ?
I guess after facing him many, many times some decided to select someone else. How is it difficult to understand that a lot of great players rate Shane Warne higher?

There are other results that are far more surprising to me.
- Ambrose only 6 votes? 😮
Can't you have both? Where is it being played? India? then I say pick both... :D
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Looking at the players choosing there looks to be a bit of knowledge bias. Most are younger and wouldn’t have faced Akram or Ambrose.
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JB1981 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:48 am Looking at the players choosing there looks to be a bit of knowledge bias. Most are younger and wouldn’t have faced Akram or Ambrose.
Or Michael Holding the greatest fast bowler of them all?
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JB1981 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:48 am Looking at the players choosing there looks to be a bit of knowledge bias. Most are younger and wouldn’t have faced Akram or Ambrose.
Always a problem with these types of lists. Players from previous eras/generations can only be rated on reputation and not from experience
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Wasim was a genius, plus he gives you a left arm option for variety, as well as the pace and guile....plus he was a more than useful batsman, so the tail looks even stronger.
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Grandpa wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:53 am
JB1981 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:48 am Looking at the players choosing there looks to be a bit of knowledge bias. Most are younger and wouldn’t have faced Akram or Ambrose.
Or Malcolm Marshall, the greatest fast bowler of them all?
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towny wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:30 am
Grandpa wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:58 am How many voted for themselves? :lol:

How did anyone NOT vote for Muralitharan ?
I guess after facing him many, many times some decided to select someone else. How is it difficult to understand that a lot of great players rate Shane Warne higher?

There are other results that are far more surprising to me.
- Ambrose only 6 votes? 😮
The classic fat vs skinny cheat conundrum.

Ambrose isn't even the best the Windies have to offer. Depending on your definition of modern era I guess which could be the only reason Viv Richards misses out also.

Luckily McCullum gets two votes to bring some much needed crapper logic to this debate.
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Kumar Sangakkara for keeper.
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Assuming we're going from the 90's Ambrose is the best bowler of the modern era - that's a daft vote count.

Also Warne shouldn't be making the cut, the bloke averaged 25+ in an era when the best in the world averaged 21-23. And that's with his average skewed by playing 40% of his cricket against the English OH GOD IT'S A LEG SPINNER Team.
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CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:11 pm Kumar Sangakkara for keeper.
Yeah nah, not with that top order.

Hundy in a session Gilly all the way.
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Red Revolution wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:14 pm Assuming we're going from the 90's Ambrose is the best bowler of the modern era - that's a daft vote count.

Also Warne shouldn't be making the cut, the bloke averaged 25+ in an era when the best in the world averaged 21-23. And that's with his average skewed by playing 40% of his cricket against the English OH GOD IT'S A LEG SPINNER Team.
Murali was a chucker.

Wasim, Waqar, Ambrose, McGrath, Warne
Kallis (AR)

Honourable mention Allan Donald.
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RuggaBugga wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:05 pm
towny wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:30 am
Grandpa wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:58 am How many voted for themselves? :lol:

How did anyone NOT vote for Muralitharan ?
I guess after facing him many, many times some decided to select someone else. How is it difficult to understand that a lot of great players rate Shane Warne higher?

There are other results that are far more surprising to me.
- Ambrose only 6 votes? 😮
The classic fat vs skinny cheat conundrum.

Ambrose isn't even the best the Windies have to offer. Depending on your definition of modern era I guess which could be the only reason Viv Richards misses out also.

Luckily McCullum gets two votes to bring some much needed crapper logic to this debate.
Ambrose would be close to the Windies' best. He's certainly in the conversation, right? Allan Donald wouldn't be. Would he be in the top 20?
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RuggaBugga wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:31 pm Murali was a chucker.
Meh - everyone was a chucker under the old rules (the 5° tolerance).
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RuggaBugga wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:17 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:11 pm Kumar Sangakkara for keeper.
Yeah nah, not with that top order.

Hundy in a session Gilly all the way.
Gilcrest was great. De Villiers is another option with a better average.
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Watched some more of these selections on the Lord's Cricket Ground Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/lordscricketg ... 0time%20xi

Virender Sehwag deserves to be in the OP honourable mentions list as he is popping up more in selections

Surprising that MS Dhoni doesn't get selected but with the younger cricketers other players are coming through - Ben Stokes and AB de Villiers are quite popular
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RuggaBugga wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:17 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:11 pm Kumar Sangakkara for keeper.
Yeah nah, not with that top order.

Hundy in a session Gilly all the way.
Sangakkara is a better keeper and batsman.
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CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:26 pm
RuggaBugga wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:17 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:11 pm Kumar Sangakkara for keeper.
Yeah nah, not with that top order.

Hundy in a session Gilly all the way.
Sangakkara is a better keeper and batsman.
Listening to the players' comments Gilchrist is credited for the the way he influenced how wicketkeeper/batsmen play the game today. But a number of players have both Gilchrist and Sangakkara in their teams
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Best bowler I’ve seen.
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How can it be an "all time XI" when it is just the last few years?
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That was magical! Many thanks for posting it.

Healy’s rueful smile at being comprehensively outfoxed says it all.
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MungoMan wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:55 am
That was magical! Many thanks for posting it.

Healy’s rueful smile at being comprehensively outfoxed says it all.
See the video below that when Curley gets 7/1 against one of the great Australian teams.
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towny wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:11 am
Best bowler I’ve seen.
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My personal 21st C XI:

Cook
Sangakarra [had to put him somewhere]
Ponting
Smith
Dravid
Kallis
Gilchrist
Warne
Bond
Anderson
McGrath

Many more Aussies than I'd like ideally, and can't quite decide who my favourite proper-quick would be. Went with Bond by extrapolating a short career into a long one.
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Woddy wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:15 pm My personal 21st C XI:

Cook
Sangakarra [had to put him somewhere]
Ponting
Smith
Dravid
Kallis
Gilchrist
Warne
Bond
Anderson
McGrath

Many more Aussies than I'd like ideally, and can't quite decide who my favourite proper-quick would be. Went with Bond by extrapolating a short career into a long one.
Wow!
That team wouldn't beat a Windies' team from the 80's. Bond and Anderson?? What are you thinking?
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Greenwich
Hayden
Lara
Richards (c)
Kohli
Gilchrist
Imran
Warne
Marshall
Lillee
Ambrose

Wouldn't even need talent - the vibe alone would thrash the fark out of the 4th XI's you clowns are posting.
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towny wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:17 pm
Woddy wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:15 pm My personal 21st C XI:

Cook
Sangakarra [had to put him somewhere]
Ponting
Smith
Dravid
Kallis
Gilchrist
Warne
Bond
Anderson
McGrath

Many more Aussies than I'd like ideally, and can't quite decide who my favourite proper-quick would be. Went with Bond by extrapolating a short career into a long one.
Wow!
That team wouldn't beat a Windies' team from the 80's. Bond and Anderson?? What are you thinking?
Probably not, but the late 70s/80s WI were the best cricket team evva in my view. Could have been more rounded with a spinner for aesthetic value but the most effective for sure.

Put your own team up from the 21stC. It might be better. Originally went for Cummins in place of Bond, then nearly Johnson (M) or Bumrah but think Bond was pacier which is what I wanted. Anderson's the King of Swing, so in there for winning on his own in English / NZ conditions and containing otherwise.
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towny wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:22 pm Greenwich
Hayden
Lara
Richards (c)
Kohli
Gilchrist
Imran
Warne
Marshall
Lillee
Ambrose

Wouldn't even need talent - the vibe alone would thrash the fark out of the 4th XI's you clowns are posting.
I agree that's better but most are pre-21st C which (in my own head) i took to be "Modern Era".
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Oh..... 21st Century. Yeah, that makes more sense.

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towny wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:11 am
Best bowler I’ve seen.
Me too.

Its 7 for 1!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4e6k8_oAJk
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Magpie26 wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:25 pm
towny wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:11 am
Best bowler I’ve seen.
Me too.

Its 7 for 1!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4e6k8_oAJk
I won't even bother clicking on the link. I've watched that 10 + times.

Okay, I'll have another look.... :x
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mid to late 90s onwards:

1- Matthew Hayden
2- Virender Sehwag
3- Ponting
4- Kallis
5- Dravid
6- Sangakara
7- Gilchrist
8- Warne
9- Brett Lee
10- Dale Steyn
11- McGrath

No room for Tendulkar and Lara.
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towny wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:17 pm
Woddy wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:15 pm My personal 21st C XI:

Cook
Sangakarra [had to put him somewhere]
Ponting
Smith
Dravid
Kallis
Gilchrist
Warne
Bond
Anderson
McGrath

Many more Aussies than I'd like ideally, and can't quite decide who my favourite proper-quick would be. Went with Bond by extrapolating a short career into a long one.
Wow!
That team wouldn't beat a Windies' team from the 80's. Bond and Anderson?? What are you thinking?
Picking Bond in a modern era ODI side wouldn't be crazy. He played against that great early 2000s Australia side 20 times. 44 wickets against them at an average 15.8
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My ODI Team:

1- Adam Gilchrist
2- Virat Kohli
3- Ricky Ponting
4- Jacques Kallis
5- AB deVilliers
6- Jonty Rhodes
7- Chris Cairns (never found guilty motherlickers)
8- Ravi Jadeja
9- Shane Warne
10- Dale Steyn
11- Glen McGrath


Ponting, deVilliers, Rhodes and Jadeja all fielding inside the circle is giving me wet dreams.
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From 2000 onwards:

Hayden
Sehwag
Ponting
Tendulkar
Smith
Kallis
Gilchrist
Pollock
Warne
Steyne
McGrath

Wasn't sure who to give the 3rd quick spot to after McGrath and Steyne. Tempted to put in Cummins but not enough tests yet. Pollock gets the nod.
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towny wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:28 pm
Magpie26 wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:25 pm
towny wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:11 am
Best bowler I’ve seen.
Me too.

Its 7 for 1!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4e6k8_oAJk
I won't even bother clicking on the link. I've watched that 10 + times.

Okay, I'll have another look.... :x
Those are rookie numbers, i rubbed 2 out to that before breakfast this morning
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