Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 6:04 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 5:59 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 5:53 am
CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 5:50 am
Sweden's covid deaths is 14k, Australia is around 900. At Sweden's rate, Australia would 35k deaths, not to mention the fact that it's a compounding problem.
I don't think anyone wants that.
Firstly, no it wouldn't. Australia doesn't have to deal with the virus as gateway to Northern Europe in the middle of a long, cold winter. They two countries are in completely different situations.
Secondly don't float idiotic alternatives as if they're the only option. Nobody is suggesting Australia eats 35K covid deaths as if that's the default alternative.
Even 1k deaths is too much. Enough for a hard lockdown of 4 months if we're going by the standard of last year.
This is just a demonstration of how completely clueless and shit people are at analysing this. No offence again, you're not the only one.
Do you know how many people the flu kills in Australia every year? While you're Googling that, keep in mind that it includes are high percentage of babies and children who are, unlike corona, particularly susceptible.
If you had any clue whatsofúckingever about influenza in Australia I suspect you wouldn't have posted such arrant nonsense.
According to the Cwth Department of Health's influenza season summaries, flu fatalities across completed reporting seasons (generally, late April to late September altho' it varies a bit) are all over the place like a madwoman's shit. See below:
2020 - 37
2019 - 812
2018 - 57
2017 - 745
2016 - 92
2015 - 97
2014 - 57
2013 - 27
Even allowing for the mandated flu reporting season not being an entire year plus yada yada in re
reporting methodology (see DOH boilerplate in footnote*), only two of those eight years could come close to matching COVID-19 associated deaths in Australia from early 2020 until now.
The other thing is that, in Australia at least, your following assertion is bollocks: 'keep in mind that it includes are high percentage of babies and children who are, unlike corona, particularly susceptible.'.
The report for each of year listed above gives a median age for influenza fatalities and, for five of those years the median age was 80 or greater, for one between 60 and 70, and for two between 60 and 70. Nothing bears out 'high percentage' or 'particularly susceptible', although the ranges provided in certain reports make it clear that influenza in Australia from 2013 until now has killed some of the very young whereas COVID-19 has not. (I haven't located a confirmed local COVID-19 associated death of anyone younger than 20).
Finally, no googles were molested in the making of this post. I bookmarked the Cwth DOH influenza reporting page last year and know where to locate ABC News' COVID-19 stats page.
* Note that the number of influenza-associated deaths reported to the NNDSS does not represent the true mortality associated with this disease. The number of deaths is reliant on the follow up of cases to determine the outcome of their infection. The follow up of cases is not a requirement of notification, and are only inclusive of laboratory-confirmed cases of influenza. Due to retrospective revision, the variation across jurisdictions in methodology, representativeness and timeliness of death data, and reporting of an outcome of infection not being a requirement of notification, year on year comparisons of deaths in notified cases of influenza may not be reliable.