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grievous wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:55 am
Dozy wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:09 pm
Rugby2023 wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:07 am Who is this bird?
https://twitter.com/_Mrtdogg/status/143 ... 33696?s=20
:lol:
Can you still parody in Chyna?
If someone posted something on WeeChat similar of Winnie the Pooh, how long would it take the CCP to re-educate them?
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Zakar wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:29 am
grievous wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:55 am
Dozy wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:09 pm
Rugby2023 wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:07 am Who is this bird?
https://twitter.com/_Mrtdogg/status/143 ... 33696?s=20
:lol:
Can you still parody in Chyna?
If someone posted something on WeeChat similar of Winnie the Pooh, how long would it take the CCP to re-educate them?
If someone wrote a criticism of Winnie in an SMS would they get a knock on the door?

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Rugby2023 wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:07 am Who is this bird?
https://twitter.com/_Mrtdogg/status/143 ... 33696?s=20
:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's outstanding
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Over 330000 vaccinations yesterday. 60.5% of over 16s have had at least one jab. Getting there.
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Double vaxxed %:

ACT 43.9%
Tas 43.7%
NT 39.0%
NSW 38.7%
Vic 36%
SA 35.5%
Qld 32.9%
WA 32.7%

Single vaxxed

NSW 70.5%
ACT 66.8%
Tas 60.9%
Vic 58.1%
NT 56.1%
SA 53.8%
Qld 51.7%
WA 51.7%
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Clogs wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:55 am Double vaxxed %:

ACT 43.9%
Tas 43.7%
NT 39.0%
NSW 38.7%
Vic 36%
SA 35.5%
Qld 32.9%
WA 32.7%

Single vaxxed

NSW 70.5%
ACT 66.8%
Tas 60.9%
Vic 58.1%
NT 56.1%
SA 53.8%
Qld 51.7%
WA 51.7%
Given the 8 weeks between AZ vaccinations, that means NSW is hypothetically 8 weeks away from reopening...
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Zakar wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:51 am
Clogs wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:55 am Double vaxxed %:

ACT 43.9%
Tas 43.7%
NT 39.0%
NSW 38.7%
Vic 36%
SA 35.5%
Qld 32.9%
WA 32.7%

Single vaxxed

NSW 70.5%
ACT 66.8%
Tas 60.9%
Vic 58.1%
NT 56.1%
SA 53.8%
Qld 51.7%
WA 51.7%
Given the 8 weeks between AZ vaccinations, that means NSW is hypothetically 8 weeks away from reopening...
Yes, it certainly looks that way.
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Clogs wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:01 am
Zakar wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:51 am
Clogs wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:55 am Double vaxxed %:

ACT 43.9%
Tas 43.7%
NT 39.0%
NSW 38.7%
Vic 36%
SA 35.5%
Qld 32.9%
WA 32.7%

Single vaxxed

NSW 70.5%
ACT 66.8%
Tas 60.9%
Vic 58.1%
NT 56.1%
SA 53.8%
Qld 51.7%
WA 51.7%
Given the 8 weeks between AZ vaccinations, that means NSW is hypothetically 8 weeks away from reopening...
Yes, it certainly looks that way.
Sooner. Pfizer has a wait time of only 6 weeks between doses. And ATAGI is recommending less time again:
Time between vaccine doses
AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) vaccine
ATAGI has issued advice recommending less time between the first and second doses of the AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) vaccine during a COVID-19 outbreak.

The recommended time is 4 to 8 weeks instead of the routine 12 weeks. Less time between AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) doses means maximum protection against COVID-19 can be achieved earlier.

Pfizer (Comirnaty) vaccine
The interval between the first and second doses of the Pfizer (Comirnaty) vaccine is 3 to 6 weeks. Waiting 6 weeks between doses means more people can get a first dose.
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-a ... ter-sydney

So it could be 6 weeks away now.

Oh yeah, and we have a million Moderna vaccines arriving this month, and they only have 4 weeks between vaccinations.
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Farva wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:12 am
Clogs wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:01 am
Zakar wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:51 am
Clogs wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:55 am Double vaxxed %:

ACT 43.9%
Tas 43.7%
NT 39.0%
NSW 38.7%
Vic 36%
SA 35.5%
Qld 32.9%
WA 32.7%

Single vaxxed

NSW 70.5%
ACT 66.8%
Tas 60.9%
Vic 58.1%
NT 56.1%
SA 53.8%
Qld 51.7%
WA 51.7%
Given the 8 weeks between AZ vaccinations, that means NSW is hypothetically 8 weeks away from reopening...
Yes, it certainly looks that way.
Sooner. Pfizer has a wait time of only 6 weeks between doses. And ATAGI is recommending less time again:
Time between vaccine doses
AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) vaccine
ATAGI has issued advice recommending less time between the first and second doses of the AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) vaccine during a COVID-19 outbreak.

The recommended time is 4 to 8 weeks instead of the routine 12 weeks. Less time between AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) doses means maximum protection against COVID-19 can be achieved earlier.

Pfizer (Comirnaty) vaccine
The interval between the first and second doses of the Pfizer (Comirnaty) vaccine is 3 to 6 weeks. Waiting 6 weeks between doses means more people can get a first dose.
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-a ... ter-sydney

So it could be 6 weeks away now.

Oh yeah, and we have a million Moderna vaccines arriving this month, and they only have 4 weeks between vaccinations.

It looks like you called it. We will definitely hit those vax rates and will even exceed them.
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Good news for you getting those extra Pfizer from the U.K. :thumbup:
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:17 am Good news for you getting those extra Pfizer from the U.K. :thumbup:
Now youre playing the "Im right behind you guys"....after your posts on this thread... :roll:
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grievous wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:43 am
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:17 am Good news for you getting those extra Pfizer from the U.K. :thumbup:
Now youre playing the "Im right behind you guys"....after your posts on this thread... :roll:
You can read through this very thread where I discussed rationally Australia's next steps and wondered why vaccine swaps hadn't happened earlier. You're so salty now you seem to be following me everywhere. :uhoh:
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:55 am
grievous wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:43 am
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:17 am Good news for you getting those extra Pfizer from the U.K. :thumbup:
Now youre playing the "Im right behind you guys"....after your posts on this thread... :roll:
You can read through this very thread where I discussed rationally Australia's next steps and wondered why vaccine swaps hadn't happened earlier. You're so salty now you seem to be following me everywhere. :uhoh:
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Lol what app?

Honestly, our government couldn't even secure enough vaccines. They also spent millions on a failed check in app last year.

What makes you think they could roll this app out?
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Dozy wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:31 pm Image
14 months ago the world lost its mind when Google and Apple came up with a plan to trace contacts without giving away anyone’s ID. The governments of the world loved it but they wanted access to the info (the ID) but this wasn’t given.

That kind of security risk was a problem but somehow governments are willing to let piss-ant app developers have access to way, way more personal information. And the world is mostly cool with that.

It’s all in the message I guess. The content is irrelevant - society gets all it needs from the tone of the newspaper headlines. 😞
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Thomas wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:35 pm Lol what app?

Honestly, our government couldn't even secure enough vaccines. They also spent millions on a failed check in app last year.

What makes you think they could roll this app out?
South Australia has gotten a foreign company to do it.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/ ... /100398878
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towny wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:38 pm South Australia has gotten a foreign company to do it.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/ ... /100398878
Hmm, foreign Leederville.

6roucho could involved (just joking, he's not involved). Same mob is providing the biometric recognition, etc, to WA quarantine.

Further down the chain, they also produced the QR check in app (utilises Amazon Web Services). Despite the recent WA protective legislation, is there a foreign control / data sovereignty risk there?

I'll ramble on a bit here so skip to the end if it's boring ... AWS physical servers are set up onshore in Sydney. Does the govt bend its arse over anyway for the Septics if they wanted the data?

QR movements aren't super interesting but they are another piece in the big mosaic of collected data.
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The NSA can have any data they want from AWS regardless of where the server is.
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bimboman wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:56 pm The NSA can have any data they want from AWS regardless of where the server is.
But you miss the point.

Oz govt would let them into it anyway ... even if not stored by AWS ...
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kiap wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:01 pm
bimboman wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:56 pm The NSA can have any data they want from AWS regardless of where the server is.
But you miss the point.

Oz govt would let them into it anyway ... even if not stored by AWS ...

Gotcha. And yes probably.

But hey about these digital IDs .
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Things is, the shit is relatively private...

But if you want stuff to be extra private, you'd have to try extra hard.
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Why are Qld and WA lagging in the race to double vaccinate 70% of our population?
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Clogs wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:08 am Why are Qld and WA lagging in the race to double vaccinate 70% of our population?
For the greater good, they're giving up a share of their own shots to vaccinate your population.

What they're left with is being fully utilised.

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Why aren't the doses not used in your states being returned to Qld and WA?
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Clogs wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:08 am Why are Qld and WA lagging in the race to double vaccinate 70% of our population?
My guess, and it is just that, is there are two factors in play.

The first is both states are victim of their successes in containing earlier outbreaks, meaning there isn't the same sense of urgency about getting vaccinated as in states not so fortunate.

The second is geography / demographics. WA and Qld are Straya's biggest states and while, ideally, that should not matter, I think it does. Ditto Qld as a v. decentralised state by local standards. I suspect regional, rural and remote areas are lagging well behind the state capitals and environs as regards resourcing that's able to deliver lots of shots relatively (ahem) painlessly.

All that said, this ABC piece seems to indicate Qld at least will be placing much more emphasis on max tax starting real soon now.
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kiap wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:36 am
Clogs wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:08 am Why are Qld and WA lagging in the race to double vaccinate 70% of our population?
For the greater good, they're giving up a share of their own shots to vaccinate your population.

What they're left with is being fully utilised.

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Why aren't the doses not used in your states being returned to Qld and WA?
Thank you WA and Qld.


I have read there are millions of doses of AZ waiting to be used. I guess they aren't going to be used while there is no outbreak. Pity. Using AZ could really boost our protection against covid. Because the outbreak is just around the corner.
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MungoMan wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:49 am
Clogs wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:08 am Why are Qld and WA lagging in the race to double vaccinate 70% of our population?
My guess, and it is just that, is there are two factors in play.

The first is both states are victim of their successes in containing earlier outbreaks, meaning there isn't the same sense of urgency about getting vaccinated as in states not so fortunate.

The second is geography / demographics. WA and Qld are Straya's biggest states and while, ideally, that should not matter, I think it does. Ditto Qld as a v. decentralised state by local standards. I suspect regional, rural and remote areas are lagging well behind the state capitals and environs as regards resourcing that's able to deliver lots of shots relatively (ahem) painlessly.

All that said, this ABC piece seems to indicate Qld at least will be placing much more emphasis on max tax starting real soon now.
Yes, I suspect there is an element of complacency due to how successful those 2 states have been in avoiding an outbreak. Geography must definitely feature too. ACT and Tas haven't had much in the way of outbreak but have been able to have high jab rates (lower populations too).

I am concerned those states might get caught out. It is only a matter of time. I hope they can accelerate their vax (I suspect Qld is about to).
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bimboman wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:08 pm Looks normal.


https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/sta ... 2085201923
How many hours a day do you spend on the various social media platforms?
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towny wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:43 pm
bimboman wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:08 pm Looks normal.


https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/sta ... 2085201923
How many hours a day do you spend on the various social media platforms?
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towny wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:43 pm
bimboman wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:08 pm Looks normal.


https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/sta ... 2085201923
How many hours a day do you spend on the various social media platforms?


Less than you.
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Hey Hermits, what is our current chance of getting to Oz in February to see our son?
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Ireland. 5,112
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MungoMan wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:53 pm
Ireland. 5,112
Another Aussie stopping to trolling dead people because a bit of fun is poked at them. You seem like a charming fellow. :thumbup:
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:56 pm Another Aussie stopping to trolling dead people because a bit of fun is poked at them. You seem like a charming fellow. :thumbup:
You've been trolling Aussies since this pandemic began. After 20 months of your childish trolling I think people have had enough.
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That Virginia Tech crowd is awesome. :thumbup:

Still, Perth Stadium had 97,000 this weekend :nod:

It's alright, it's OK.
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Ali's Choice wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:00 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:56 pm Another Aussie stopping to trolling dead people because a bit of fun is poked at them. You seem like a charming fellow. :thumbup:
You've been trolling Aussies since this pandemic began. After 20 months of your childish trolling I think people have had enough.
You’ve been trolling those who died with Covid for well over a year now. It’s sad that Mungo Man feels the need to imitate your general behaviour because he can’t take a rib about a goal post being wiped down. :thumbdown:
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kiap wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:03 pm That Virginia Tech crowd is awesome. :thumbup:

Still, Perth Stadium had 97,000 this weekend :nod:

It's alright, it's OK.
But is he?
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:56 pm
MungoMan wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:53 pm
Ireland. 5,112
Another Aussie stopping to trolling dead people because a bit of fun is poked at them. You seem like a charming fellow. :thumbup:
One of the things I like about old-school boxing is the referee’s direction to the contestants that they must be prepared to defend themselves at all times. Which is fair enough, because they are voluntarily putting themselves in harms’s way.

Similarly, those who gob off at people consistently and at length cannot reasonably expect to avoid return of service.

If you don’t like it, find another pastime.

Or STFU, which would amount to the same thing in your case.
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