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launched a massive f**k off rocket a few weeks back to ferry part of its proposed space station into orbit. No big deal... except they've just let the large core of the rocket itself go and it's tumbling in an out of control orbit and will crash somewhere that no-one can predict.

You can track it here https://orbit.ing-now.com/satellite/482 ... 35b/cz-5b/ as it has its own identifier code.

The dodgy bastards have form with this...
“Last time they launched a Long March 5B rocket they ended up with big long rods of metal flying through the sky and damaging several buildings in the Ivory Coast,” he said.

“Most of it burned up, but there were these enormous pieces of metal that hit the ground. We are very lucky no one was hurt.”
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Long March 5B is doing 27,600km/h in failing orbit, with eventual crash site unknown, after launching space station hub
The Long March5B rocket launched a module of China’s space station on 29 April. The rocket’s core is expected to make an uncontrolled re-entry this week.


Part of a huge rocket that launched China’s first module for its Tianhe space station is falling back to Earth and could make an uncontrolled re-entry at an unknown landing point.

The 30-metre high core of the Long March 5B rocket launched the “Heavenly Harmony” unmanned core module into low Earth orbit on 29 April from Wenchang in China’s Hainan province.

The Long March 5B then itself entered a temporary orbit, setting the stage for one of the largest ever uncontrolled re-entries. Some experts fear it could land on an inhabited area.
China launches first module of new space station
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“It’s potentially not good,” said Jonathan McDowell, Astrophysicist at the Astrophysics Center at Harvard University.

“Last time they launched a Long March 5B rocket they ended up with big long rods of metal flying through the sky and damaging several buildings in the Ivory Coast,” he said.

“Most of it burned up, but there were these enormous pieces of metal that hit the ground. We are very lucky no one was hurt.”

On Tuesday the core was orbiting Earth around every 90 minutes at about 27,600km/h and an altitude of more than 300km. The US military has named it 2021-035B and its path can be seen on websites including orbit.ing-now.com.


Since the weekend it has dropped nearly 80km in altitude and SpaceNews reported that amateur ground observations showed it was tumbling and not under control. This, and its speed, makes it impossible to predict where it will land when Earth’s atmosphere eventually drags it down, though McDowell said the most likely outcome is that it will fall into the sea, as the ocean covers about 71% of the planet.

But McDowell says some pieces of the rocket will survive re-entry and that it would be the “equivalent of a small plane crash scattered over 100 miles”.

Since 1990 nothing over 10 tonnes has been deliberately left in orbit to re-enter uncontrolled. The Long March 5B core stage is thought to be about 21 tonnes.

“What’s bad is that it’s really negligent on China’s part. Things more than ten tonnes we don’t let them fall out of the sky uncontrolled deliberately,” McDowell said.

Based on its current orbit the rocket is passing over Earth as far north as New York, Madrid and Beijing and as far south as southern Chile and Wellington, New Zealand, and could make its re-entry at any point within this area.

Given its velocity, a small change in its path could make a big difference to where it ends up. It’s expected to return to Earth on 10 May, plus or minus two days.

McDowell said once it’s clear the day it is returning to Earth, experts could predict its landing time within a six-hour window.

The rocket’s launch was part of 11 planned missions as part of the construction of China’s space station, which is expected to be completed in late 2022. The T-shaped space station is expected to weigh about 60 tonnes, considerably smaller than the International Space Station, which launched its first module in 1998 and weighs about 408 tonnes.

China’s space station will have a docking port and will also be able to connect with a Chinese satellite. Theoretically it could be expanded to as many as six modules.
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Aussie is a bloody big target.

I wonder if Dutton could stand on the bullseye
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Enzedder wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:16 am Aussie is a bloody big target.

I wonder if Dutton could stand on the bullseye
Don't go Chyna on us Enz, don't do what Jacinda did.
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Please let it fall on Dozy.
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Sefton wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:58 am Please let it fall on Dozy.
Nah, Beijing.
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Sefton wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:58 am Please let it fall on Dozy.
The sheer tragic poetic justice of this :lol:
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CrazyIslander wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:25 am
Enzedder wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:16 am Aussie is a bloody big target.

I wonder if Dutton could stand on the bullseye
Don't go Chyna on us Enz, don't do what Jacinda did.
Piss off - we have hate a hate on Dutton for a lot longer than China
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eldanielfire wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:10 am
Sefton wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:58 am Please let it fall on Dozy.
The sheer tragic poetic justice of this :lol:
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I look forward to seeing how a certain poster is going to spin this into it somehow being Australia's fault.
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Clogs wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:22 am I look forward to seeing how a certain poster is going to spin this into it somehow being Australia's fault.
Why did Australia not offer to receive this rocket? It's a vastly under-populated country and there are huge swathes of the interior where the rocket could safely land without any problem at all. If we want to trade with China, we need to show more humility and be willing to compromise on massive rockets landing in our backyard from outer space. It suits the Libs for political purposes to make a fuss about this rocket when we all know the real issue is the disgracefully insular and xenophobic Australian attitude towards Chinese-manufactured space technology.

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MrDominator wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:24 am
Clogs wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:22 am I look forward to seeing how a certain poster is going to spin this into it somehow being Australia's fault.
Why did Australia not offer to receive this rocket? It's a vastly under-populated country and there are huge swathes of the interior where the rocket could safely land without any problem at all. If we want to trade with China, we need to show more humility and be willing to compromise on massive rockets landing in our backyard from outer space. It suits the Libs for political purposes to make a fuss about this rocket when we all know the real issue is the disgracefully insular and xenophobic Australian attitude towards Chinese-manufactured space technology.

etc etc
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:lol:

I bet no one has a 'World War 3 started by a chunk of Chinese rocket falling out of orbit onto a densely populated urban area' betting slip.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:07 am
Sefton wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:58 am Please let it fall on Dozy.
Nah, Beijing.
:lol: Wouldnt that be karma
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You wait till he sees this thread.

We'll be straight to DozyCon-1

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shanky wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:50 am You wait till he sees this thread.

We'll be straight to DozyCon-1

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Long March 5B
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Look carefully

You'll see Aus and NZ copping it first :lol:
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:lol: Holy shit
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Took ages to find that

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I am inscrutably impressed.
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shanky wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:59 am Look carefully

You'll see Aus and NZ copping it first :lol:
North Korea failed to get a shot off.
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AnkleTap wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:08 am
shanky wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:59 am Look carefully

You'll see Aus and NZ copping it first :lol:
North Korea failed to get a shot off.
:lol:
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It will fall to nothing.

They could just shoot it out of the sky and send a message
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:07 am
Sefton wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:58 am Please let it fall on Dozy.
Nah, Beijing.
Not surprised you said that. They don't look like you BOAT...
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The most unpredictable one was SA taking three nukes from Kerguelen
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Dozy wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:27 am It will fall to nothing.

They could just shoot it out of the sky and send a message

Would you mind being an eyewitness?
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AnkleTap wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:28 am The most unpredictable one was SA taking three nukes from Kerguelen
Likewise. Who’s ginning for Southern Argentina?
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MrDominator wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:24 am
Clogs wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:22 am I look forward to seeing how a certain poster is going to spin this into it somehow being Australia's fault.
Why did Australia not offer to receive this rocket? It's a vastly under-populated country and there are huge swathes of the interior where the rocket could safely land without any problem at all. If we want to trade with China, we need to show more humility and be willing to compromise on massive rockets landing in our backyard from outer space. It suits the Libs for political purposes to make a fuss about this rocket when we all know the real issue is the disgracefully insular and xenophobic Australian attitude towards Chinese-manufactured space technology.

etc etc
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People who will eat anything are probably OK about dropping anything on anyone too.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 11:33 am People who will eat anything are probably OK about dropping anything on anyone too.
Who are the people who eat anything you talk of
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Uh-oh...

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For the briefest of moments, Mick thought he was part of the gang…….
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towny wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 5:33 am For the briefest of moments, Mick thought he was part of the gang…….
:lol:

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shanky wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:50 am You wait till he sees this thread.

We'll be straight to DozyCon-1

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That really is top Gifing :thumbup:
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Zakar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 5:46 am
shanky wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:50 am You wait till he sees this thread.

We'll be straight to DozyCon-1

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That really is top Gifing :thumbup:
Agree 100%. Well done GifGuru S. :thumbup:
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Zakar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 5:46 am
shanky wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:50 am You wait till he sees this thread.

We'll be straight to DozyCon-1

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That really is top Gifing :thumbup:
Those NZ missiles have come from Oz.

I fucking knew it!!!
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Enzedder wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 6:12 am
Zakar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 5:46 am
shanky wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:50 am You wait till he sees this thread.

We'll be straight to DozyCon-1

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That really is top Gifing :thumbup:
Those NZ missiles have come from Oz.

I fucking knew it!!!
We call it Operation Rusty
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We're part owned by China now.
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les@mooloolaba wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:45 am
Sandstorm wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:07 am
Sefton wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:58 am Please let it fall on Dozy.
Nah, Beijing.
:lol: Wouldnt that be karma
I might be wrong, but I don't think there is any point of its projected orbits that is crosses China proper.
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shanky wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 9:59 am Look carefully

You'll see Aus and NZ copping it first :lol:
Auckland and the Chatham's. :nod: :uhoh:
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