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Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:12 am**

guy smiley wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:20 am Australian rugby's greatest coup of modern times would be the winning of the sole hosting rights to RWC 2003 after the NZRU wouldn't guarantee clean stadia in time...

it was good business from the Aussies and long and hard have been the ribbings in here over that.

What Australia did with that tournament and the incredible community support it generated for Australian rugby was spectacular.

The squandered it. Completely.

They utterly f**ked the dog. Magnificent business sense there.

Spectacular.

Don't worry though. Marinos will sort it all out.

Poor Guy, still thinks NZ can go it alone and be the Singapore Inc of the Tasman Sea

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:57 pm**

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:12 am
guy smiley wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:20 am Australian rugby's greatest coup of modern times would be the winning of the sole hosting rights to RWC 2003 after the NZRU wouldn't guarantee clean stadia in time...

it was good business from the Aussies and long and hard have been the ribbings in here over that.

What Australia did with that tournament and the incredible community support it generated for Australian rugby was spectacular.

The squandered it. Completely.

They utterly f**ked the dog. Magnificent business sense there.

Spectacular.

Don't worry though. Marinos will sort it all out.
Poor Guy, still thinks NZ can go it alone and be the Singapore Inc of the Tasman Sea

NZ could go it alone - put the stars in the NPC and it would be a great comp. But this would spread the talent over more sides and reduce the standard, which NZR isn’t prepared to do.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:09 am**

Getting tired of Aussie whinging about the future of SR just because they can't handle losing. Just give them a few years on their own to cannibalise their sickly franchises with no interference from us, come back with just 3 or 4 teams like we helpfully suggested they should, and return to being an actually competitive collective in 2024 or something.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:31 am**

naki wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:09 am Just give them a few years on their own

Absolutely.

End of the day, you have no agency on that.

Tramp up each May after our season and we'll talk crossover.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:46 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:31 am
naki wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:09 am Just give them a few years on their own
Absolutely.

End of the day, you have no agency on that.

Tramp up each May after our season and we'll talk crossover.

Yeah that's what we did this year, and you were all very happy to do so. Until you started getting stuffed and suddenly it's all the keewees fault and the competition is all wrong and oh why can't we draft ABs into our teams and why are the keewees being so mean?

I miss the Yarp... no, even in jest I couldn't finish that sentence

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:51 am**

I love that some kiwis think that Fiji would go with them.

Ignores that we're funding their pathways, the Drua have been part of the NRC in the past and we have good existing relationships.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:03 am**

It's been common knowledge that Pasifika Moana would be based in Auckland and the Fijian team would be based in Suva and Western Sydney. Why are people acting like this is news?

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:04 am**

naki wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:46 am Yeah that's what we did this year, and you were all very happy to do so.

1. Happy to talk, yes.

naki wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:46 am Until you started getting stuffed and suddenly it's all the keewees fault and the competition is all wrong

2. The format is dead because it's a lemon.

naki wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:46 am and oh why can't we draft ABs into our teams and why are the keewees being so mean?

3. See point 1.

naki wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:46 am I miss the yarp...no, even in jest I couldn't finish that sentence

4. Try the Jap instead of the Jaarp. We certainly will be.

It won't be a full season from them, though. They don't need to play us or you for that.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:06 am**

I thought last year the team NZ were really chasing was the Force.

Would Twiggy be persuaded by money or is he loyal to RA?

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:13 am**

No one has death ridden SR harder than Kiap. He's enjoyed trolling the comp, trolling the NZ teams and trolling SH rugby more generally for the past few years. What sport needs enemies when it has supporters like this?

One can only assume he has a hard on for Super Rugby AU or the NRC. Two comps that are so limited as to make them a joke. If Kiap genuinely thinks that RA will take on the NRL or AFL with Super Rugby AU, then his pseudo-intellectual persona on this forum has been shattered. Super Rugby AU is a joke shop comp because it is far too small. Adding a Fijian nothing team won't change that. I'm an Aussie based poster who has loved Rugby my entire life and I won't watch Super Rugby AU because the standard is pathetic. Obviously Rugby fans like me aren't of interest to RA or posters like Kiap.

The reality is that if the Australian teams had won more games than they lost in TT Super Rugby, or better yet won the comp, then RA and Australian Rugby fans would be fully on board. They would love the concept. The only reason they are now criticising the comp they wanted 3 months ago is because their teams are shit and the can't compete with the NZ teams. They can't handle losing. What utter soft-cocks. And they wonder why Rugby is dying in Australia.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:20 am**

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:13 am No one has death ridden SR harder than Kiap.

Old son, I've been hammering it for more than half a decade. I don't even need to any more. It's as plain as day to everyone except old mate at nzru that there are better options than what's being peddled.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:48 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:20 am
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:13 am No one has death ridden SR harder than Kiap.
Old son, I've been hammering it for more than half a decade. I don't even need to any more. It's as plain as day to everyone except old mate at nzru that there are better options than what's being peddled.

You'd rather watch the NRC or Super Rugby AU than a comp that involves the best players from NZ, who are some the finest Rugby players in the world? You're a joke supporter, who would rather watch park rugby where his team wins than elite level rugby where his team could lose. You're the ultimate fair weather fan.

Btw I am not the "nzru". I am an Australian based Rugby fan who watches Rugby every weekend. And I won't watch Super Rugby AU because of the low standard of play.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:50 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:20 am
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:13 am No one has death ridden SR harder than Kiap.
Old son, I've been hammering it for more than half a decade. I don't even need to any more. It's as plain as day to everyone except old mate at nzru that there are better options than what's being peddled.

I vividly recall daring to start a thread suggesting that SR had become a boring, second rate competition not that long ago. I was viciously, perhaps racistly, attacked. Not by kiwis, not even by the soon to depart Saffers. It was by Australians. “You don’t like it, then rack off!” “Super Duper is the bestest, how good?!?”. “Feck off, we’ve Folau” etc

The only difference was the Aussie teams were doing relatively well then.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:54 am**

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:48 am Btw I am not the "nzru". I am an Australian based Rugby fan who watches Rugby every weekend. And I won't watch Super Rugby AU because of the low standard of play.

So why are you crying...

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:11 am**

naki wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:50 am
kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:20 am
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:13 am No one has death ridden SR harder than Kiap.
Old son, I've been hammering it for more than half a decade. I don't even need to any more. It's as plain as day to everyone except old mate at nzru that there are better options than what's being peddled.
I vividly recall daring to start a thread suggesting that SR had become a boring, second rate competition not that long ago. I was viciously, perhaps racistly, attacked. Not by kiwis, not even by the soon to depart Saffers. It was by Australians. “You don’t like it, then rack off!” “Super Duper is the bestest, how good?!?”. “Feck off, we’ve Folau” etc

The only difference was the Aussie teams were doing relatively well then.

Aussies have proven themselves to be the world's greatest fair weather fans on the planet. We now know that they are only interested in watching tournaments which Aussie teams win. Frankly I cannot understand why they've continued to be part of the Bledisloe Cup for as long as they have? Unless an Australian team wins every year, posters like Kiap have zero interest in watching.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:14 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:54 am
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:48 am Btw I am not the "nzru". I am an Australian based Rugby fan who watches Rugby every weekend. And I won't watch Super Rugby AU because of the low standard of play.
So why are you crying...

I'm just frustrated because I want to watch a Trans Tasman comp in 2022 and beyond. So did many Australian fans on this forum, until the Aussie teams lost 23 of 25 matches. Now apparently it's all about their own 'easy rugby' AU-only comp where Australian players can be the big fish in a tiny bowl.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:18 am**

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:11 am
naki wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:50 am
kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:20 am
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:13 am No one has death ridden SR harder than Kiap.
Old son, I've been hammering it for more than half a decade. I don't even need to any more. It's as plain as day to everyone except old mate at nzru that there are better options than what's being peddled.
I vividly recall daring to start a thread suggesting that SR had become a boring, second rate competition not that long ago. I was viciously, perhaps racistly, attacked. Not by kiwis, not even by the soon to depart Saffers. It was by Australians. “You don’t like it, then rack off!” “Super Duper is the bestest, how good?!?”. “Feck off, we’ve Folau” etc

The only difference was the Aussie teams were doing relatively well then.
Aussies have proven themselves to be the world's greatest fair weather fans on the planet. We now know that they are only interested in watching tournaments which Aussie teams win. Frankly I cannot understand why they've continued to be part of the Bledisloe Cup for as long as they have? Unless an Australian team wins every year, posters like Kiap have zero interest in watching.

Oh yeah, its brutal.

Hardcore rusted on fans will remain, but support from the majority disappears very quickly here.

Swans are averaging 20k plus at the moment, but if they had a season like the Tahs they'd be at a similar level. Its even worse in the soccer.

That's because our primary sport is property. That's the water-cooler chat. Property prices, auctions, renos. People don't chat that much sport unless they know what you're into. I live and work in Sydney, but nobody has mentioned the league to me all year, save for the Origin.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:23 am**

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:11 am
naki wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:50 am
kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:20 am
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:13 am No one has death ridden SR harder than Kiap.
Old son, I've been hammering it for more than half a decade. I don't even need to any more. It's as plain as day to everyone except old mate at nzru that there are better options than what's being peddled.
I vividly recall daring to start a thread suggesting that SR had become a boring, second rate competition not that long ago. I was viciously, perhaps racistly, attacked. Not by kiwis, not even by the soon to depart Saffers. It was by Australians. “You don’t like it, then rack off!” “Super Duper is the bestest, how good?!?”. “Feck off, we’ve Folau” etc

The only difference was the Aussie teams were doing relatively well then.
Aussies have proven themselves to be the world's greatest fair weather fans on the planet. We now know that they are only interested in watching tournaments which Aussie teams win. Frankly I cannot understand why they've continued to be part of the Bledisloe Cup for as long as they have? Unless an Australian team wins every year, posters like Kiap have zero interest in watching.

Low standard of play is laugable.

Yes, lower than SRA, but its a equal or higher standard than any other competition you'd care to name.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:26 am**

I wanted an ongoing AU comp in prime position before a ball was even kicked in Trans Tasman.

Old mate at nzru is going to have to adjust plans to something workable. Hasn't realised that yet despite the buffetings already taken more than a year on.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:30 am**

Zakar wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:23 am
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:11 am
naki wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:50 am
kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:20 am
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:13 am No one has death ridden SR harder than Kiap.
Old son, I've been hammering it for more than half a decade. I don't even need to any more. It's as plain as day to everyone except old mate at nzru that there are better options than what's being peddled.
I vividly recall daring to start a thread suggesting that SR had become a boring, second rate competition not that long ago. I was viciously, perhaps racistly, attacked. Not by kiwis, not even by the soon to depart Saffers. It was by Australians. “You don’t like it, then rack off!” “Super Duper is the bestest, how good?!?”. “Feck off, we’ve Folau” etc

The only difference was the Aussie teams were doing relatively well then.
Aussies have proven themselves to be the world's greatest fair weather fans on the planet. We now know that they are only interested in watching tournaments which Aussie teams win. Frankly I cannot understand why they've continued to be part of the Bledisloe Cup for as long as they have? Unless an Australian team wins every year, posters like Kiap have zero interest in watching.
Low standard of play is laugable.

Yes, lower than SRA, but its a equal or higher standard than any other competition you'd care to name.

I don't understand why this is something to cheer about.

A combined comp will raise the standard, your own comp wont.

It's hilarious that Kiap is having a go at NZR for wanting to have TT comp that benefits both countries. Why do so many Oz fans prefer an Oz only reach around comp, surely you can handle not winning everything for a few years while the teams acclimatise.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:37 am**

UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:30 am I don't understand why this is something to cheer about.

A combined comp will raise the standard, your own comp wont - Except it will..

It's hilarious that Kiap is having a go at NZR for wanting to have TT comp that benefits both countries - What they're selling, we're not buying. Why do so many Oz fans prefer an Oz only Because we can and should, like every other sport in the country. reach around comp, surely you can handle not winning everything for a few years while the teams acclimatise.

We can still play kiwi teams.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:41 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:37 am
UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:30 am I don't understand why this is something to cheer about.

A combined comp will raise the standard, your own comp wont - Except it will.. No it wont.

It's hilarious that Kiap is having a go at NZR for wanting to have TT comp that benefits both countries- What they're selling, we're not buying. Negotiate then, don't completely throw the toys out of the cot. Why do so many Oz fans prefer an Oz only Because we can an should, like every other sport in the country. Why? Rugby is a totally different sport with a different focus from your other reach around sports reach around comp, surely you can handle not winning everything for a few years while the teams acclimatise.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:42 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:37 am
UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:30 am I don't understand why this is something to cheer about.

A combined comp will raise the standard, your own comp wont - Except it will..

It's hilarious that Kiap is having a go at NZR for wanting to have TT comp that benefits both countries - What they're selling, we're not buying. Why do so many Oz fans prefer an Oz only Because we can and should, like every other sport in the country. reach around comp, surely you can handle not winning everything for a few years while the teams acclimatise.
We can still play kiwi teams.

When? I thought the separate comps coming together was the worst? And will we have to put up with the same whining when your teams get tonked by teams playing a higher standard?

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:45 am**

UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:41 am
kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:37 am
UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:30 am I don't understand why this is something to cheer about.

A combined comp will raise the standard, your own comp wont - Except it will.. No it wont.

It's hilarious that Kiap is having a go at NZR for wanting to have TT comp that benefits both countries- What they're selling, we're not buying. Negotiate then, don't completely throw the toys out of the cot. Why do so many Oz fans prefer an Oz only Because we can an should, like every other sport in the country. Why? Rugby is a totally different sport with a different focus from your other reach around sports reach around comp, surely you can handle not winning everything for a few years while the teams acclimatise.

The hard thing here is that Rugby’s main distinguishing and unique and valuable attribute is that it’s a proper international sport - League isn’t really, obviously AFL isn’t at all.

So if Aus union goes domestic it loses that.

——

BTW - no way Super Rugby Au is even the same standard as Premiership or Top 14. Not sure how it sits alongside pro14/rainbow/Currie cup. Assume higher than Japanese league…

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:00 am**

UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:41 am Negotiate then, don't completely throw the toys out of the cot.

As I've repeatedly said, my model is for an AU comp first and foremost. That does not exclude also playing other pro sides.

UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:41 am It's hilarious that Kiap is having a go at NZR

The hilarious thing is how needy - so very very needy - they are on this.

If your comp is so red hot then you should keep it to yourselves - and, really, please do.

The reality is that the take-it-or-leave-it nzru proposal is deeply flawed.

Until that changes, there's no negotiating with take-it-or-leave-it.

There's some room to move but the reality is that it's not going to be the "whole of season" solution.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:15 am**

kiwigreg369 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:45 am The hard thing here is that Rugby’s main distinguishing and unique and valuable attribute is that it’s a proper international sport - League isn’t really, obviously AFL isn’t at all.

So if Aus union goes domestic it loses that.

That's what test rugby is for, Greg. Have you heard of it?

You're seriously overreaching here.

kiwigreg369 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:45 am BTW - no way Super Rugby Au is even the same standard as Premiership or Top 14. Not sure how it sits alongside pro14/rainbow/Currie cup. Assume higher than Japanese league…

This highlights something - Is French and English rugby an "international" sport? Hmm.

In terms of the Japanese league, Robbie Deans' foreign-filled premiership team Panasonic got beat by Western Force when it had an NRC-level squad. It's not test level, but they'll build their comp.

So will we.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:27 am**

It looks like each nation is going to go their own way, which is fine.

I vote we call our comp "World Series Rugby"

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:27 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:00 am
UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:41 am Negotiate then, don't completely throw the toys out of the cot.
As I've repeatedly said, my model is for an AU comp first and foremost. That does not exclude also playing other pro sides.

UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:41 am It's hilarious that Kiap is having a go at NZR
The hilarious thing is how needy - so very very needy - they are on this.

If your comp is so red hot then you should keep it to yourselves - and, really, please do.

The reality is that the take-it-or-leave-it nzru proposal is deeply flawed.

Until that changes, there's no negotiating with take-it-or-leave-it.

There's some room to move but the reality is that it's not going to be the "whole of season" solution.

You're just being pissy here. How dare NZR want to have a combined comp that will benefit both countries.

Seriously, if you lot want to go down in a dumpster fire by yourself then maybe we should just leave you to it. We may as well just lose the Bledisloe Cup in a storage room again for 40 years as you lot don't appear to want it ever again.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:29 am**

Bindi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:27 am It looks like each nation is going to go their own way, which is fine.

I vote we call our comp "World Series Rugby"

I thought you guys liked The Shute Shield as a name? Why rebrand?

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:34 am**

UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:27 am You're just being pissy here. How dare NZR want to have a combined comp that will benefit both countries.

I'm really not, mate. Genuine viewpoint.

UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:27 am Seriously, if you lot want to go down in a dumpster fire by yourself then maybe we should just leave you to it. We may as well just lose the Bledisloe Cup in a storage room again for 40 years as you lot don't appear to want it ever again.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:38 am**

Bindi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:27 am I vote we call our comp "World Series Rugby"

Good enuff to beat Robbie's cashed-up heroes, innit.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:39 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:38 am
Bindi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:27 am I vote we call our comp "World Series Rugby"
Good enuff to beat Robbie's cashed-up heroes, innit.

And we can anoint the winner 'World Champion'.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:44 am**

Bindi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:39 am
kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:38 am
Bindi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:27 am I vote we call our comp "World Series Rugby"
Good enuff to beat Robbie's cashed-up heroes, innit.
And we can anoint the winner 'World Champion'.

And after the first year maybe we can invite 2-3 kiwi teams.

Which ones have an international airport?

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:47 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:44 am
Bindi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:39 am
kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:38 am
Bindi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:27 am I vote we call our comp "World Series Rugby"
Good enuff to beat Robbie's cashed-up heroes, innit.
And we can anoint the winner 'World Champion'.
And after the first year maybe we can invite 2-3 kiwi teams.

Which ones have an international airport?

Wanganui and Horowhenua Kapiti are close to Palmy and Wellington airports, there's always Southland, but they'd just become the Crusaders of your comp.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:50 am**

UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:47 am Wanganui and Horowhenua Kapiti are close to Palmy and Wellington airports, there's always Southland, but they'd just become the Crusaders of your comp.

Jets or Turboprop?

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:52 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:50 am
UncleFB wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:47 am Wanganui and Horowhenua Kapiti are close to Palmy and Wellington airports, there's always Southland, but they'd just become the Crusaders of your comp.
Jets or Turboprop?

I assume Wellington airport still has jets. Not sure about Invercargill, DC 10s maybe?

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:54 am**

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:05 am**

I think most Oz rugby fans want a TT comp.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:08 am**

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:15 am
kiwigreg369 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:45 am The hard thing here is that Rugby’s main distinguishing and unique and valuable attribute is that it’s a proper international sport - League isn’t really, obviously AFL isn’t at all.

So if Aus union goes domestic it loses that.
That's what test rugby is for, Greg. Have you heard of it?

You're seriously overreaching here.

kiwigreg369 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:45 am BTW - no way Super Rugby Au is even the same standard as Premiership or Top 14. Not sure how it sits alongside pro14/rainbow/Currie cup. Assume higher than Japanese league…
This highlights something - Is French and English rugby an "international" sport? Hmm.

In terms of the Japanese league, Robbie Deans' foreign-filled premiership team Panasonic got beat by Western Force when it had an NRC-level squad. It's not test level, but they'll build their comp.

So will we.

At the risk of interrupting you being a cnut Kiap you’re fighting in a paper bag.

As I’ve stated in earlier posts I support domestic divisions- which still support your line of thinking but offer cross over with NZ (which brings etc $$). It gives a chance for Aus teams to develop and improve - and continue to gain on NZ teams (especially if they get depleted by further teams).

Don’t forget some kiwis live in Aus, play rugby subs in Aus, support local teams, coach junior teams etc - all because they love the game and would be very happy to see Aus doing well…

But carry on by all means….

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:11 am**

towny wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:05 am I think most Oz rugby fans want a TT comp.

Viewers voted with their remotes, tho. Ratings dropped despite any lift from domiciled kiwis.

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