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Where:

Tokyo, Japan
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When (or is it if?):
2020 Summer Olympics will begin on
Friday, 23 July 2021
and end on
Sunday, 8 August

Schedule of events
https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic ... hedule.htm

The biggest issue, before we get too far into this thread, is whether they will go ahead. The general population there is solidly behind cancelling them but the government there has to let the IOC decide in terms of the contract that they signed to stage the Olympics.
One reason given to justify a cancellation - aside from things like war or civil disorder - is that if "the IOC has reasonable grounds to believe, in its sole discretion, that the safety of participants in the Games would be seriously threatened or jeopardised for any reason whatsoever". Arguably, the pandemic could be seen as such a threat.

The Olympic charter also stipulates that the IOC should ensure "the health of the athletes" and promote "safe sports", Mestre said, but despite all this, the IOC seems determined to go ahead.
Medal table

https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic ... ndings.htm
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Professional boxers are allowed to compete now.
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It's going to be harder and more expensive to cancel at every step of the way now. The NZ team has a full itinerary already organized and booked, off to a camp in Nelson now, then to Aus before going to Japan. You'd imagine every country is doing the same, money is being burned in all directions
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CrazyIslander wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 1:26 am Professional boxers are allowed to compete now.
Where they don't control the matchmaking? :lol:
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Enzedder wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 1:17 amThe biggest issue, before we get too far into this thread, is whether they will go ahead. The general population there is solidly behind cancelling them but the government there has to let the IOC decide in terms of the contract that they signed to stage the Olympics.
One reason given to justify a cancellation - aside from things like war or civil disorder - is that if "the IOC has reasonable grounds to believe, in its sole discretion, that the safety of participants in the Games would be seriously threatened or jeopardised for any reason whatsoever". Arguably, the pandemic could be seen as such a threat.

The Olympic charter also stipulates that the IOC should ensure "the health of the athletes" and promote "safe sports", Mestre said, but despite all this, the IOC seems determined to go ahead.
I think I would give about 4 to one odds that they will be cancelled.
I would not want to be a decision maker for the IOC or Japanese government right now. There was an "anonymous Japanese government source" earlier this year that had a quote published "right now we all know the Olympics are not taking place, this is about presenting face to get 2032 as a make-good". The problem is that means the IOC won't hand out a winning bid for a Summer Games until 15 years from now (because they decided to not have a loser in the 2024 bidding and give 2028 to Los Angeles). If the Games don't take place even if they get 2032 as a make-good, that's still a huge sunken loss for Japan as far as investment. The IOC meanwhile they're going to piss off a lot of people regardless of whether they play (Covid and athlete health) or don't (money and TV).

If these Games happen everything is going to be behind closed doors and the athletes are going to afterward talk about it like they were in prison because they couldn't go anywhere. We're going to do an Opening Ceremony in an empty stadium minus the athletes? Or how many athletes just decide to skip it?

From another sport I follow, I know they shut down all arena events in Tokyo the past few weeks. It was due to an increase, but probably also a cautious desire to get everything as close to zero prior to the Olympics coming if they do.
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The more I am reading about the games, the more I am thinking that they will go ahead.

Going to model it all on a western australian mine by the sound of it - fly in, do your work, fly out (but no socialising at all). I have sold all of my durex shares.
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:35 pm I would not want to be a decision maker for the IOC or Japanese government right now. There was an "anonymous Japanese government source" earlier this year that had a quote published "right now we all know the Olympics are not taking place, this is about presenting face to get 2032 as a make-good". The problem is that means the IOC won't hand out a winning bid for a Summer Games until 15 years from now (because they decided to not have a loser in the 2024 bidding and give 2028 to Los Angeles). If the Games don't take place even if they get 2032 as a make-good, that's still a huge sunken loss for Japan as far as investment. The IOC meanwhile they're going to piss off a lot of people regardless of whether they play (Covid and athlete health) or don't (money and TV).

If these Games happen everything is going to be behind closed doors and the athletes are going to afterward talk about it like they were in prison because they couldn't go anywhere. We're going to do an Opening Ceremony in an empty stadium minus the athletes? Or how many athletes just decide to skip it?

From another sport I follow, I know they shut down all arena events in Tokyo the past few weeks. It was due to an increase, but probably also a cautious desire to get everything as close to zero prior to the Olympics coming if they do.
The government is caught in a highly unenviable situation, in which whatever it decides will piss off a lot of people and cause a lot of problems. At the moment, professional sports are all going ahead as normal, but with no spectators, while department stores, restaurants, bars, cafes, etc. are suffering under requests to cut their business hours or to stay closed. Even restaurants that are open are being asked not to serve alcohol.

Eight prefectures are now under states of emergency due to last till the end of this month but the odds are good on these being extended in both duration and coverage.

It is a total shitshow and is likely to get worse.
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I predict a Montreal 76 level of economic disaster.
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Zakar wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 3:03 am I predict a Montreal 76 level of economic disaster.
Yes, combined with the risk of the event becoming a superspreader event in Japan given the loose controls over incoming visitors.
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Kiwias wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 2:40 am

Eight prefectures are now under states of emergency due to last till the end of this month but the odds are good on these being extended in both duration and coverage.
From what Google translate tells me, it's not good at present.

Is it a full on 4th Wave?
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Tough, tough spot for the Japanese and IOC to be in.


Delay until 2022? that possible at all? I know it would coincide with the Winter Olympics year.
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Morgan14 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 5:49 pm Tough, tough spot for the Japanese and IOC to be in.


Delay until 2022? that possible at all? I know it would coincide with the Winter Olympics year.
They used to be held in the same year, so as a one off it wouldn't be a huge issue IMO.
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eldanielfire wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:11 pm
Morgan14 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 5:49 pm Tough, tough spot for the Japanese and IOC to be in.


Delay until 2022? that possible at all? I know it would coincide with the Winter Olympics year.
They used to be held in the same year, so as a one off it wouldn't be a huge issue IMO.
Right, I forgot about that.

Canceling it outright seems a bit harsh (for ticket holders / travelers, the athletes, sponsors, etc.), but I don't pretend to scratch the surface in terms of knowledge of the existing agreements, contracts, etc. in place that owuld be jeopardized by this
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Morgan14 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 5:49 pm Tough, tough spot for the Japanese and IOC to be in.


Delay until 2022? that possible at all? I know it would coincide with the Winter Olympics year.
IIRC, the IOC has already made clear that there will be no second postponement. If the games are nit able to be held this year, that is it.

Latest news is that athlete numbers will be around 15,000 and the number of coaches etc and other related officials is to be cut from 180,000 to around 78,000, and maybe even less.
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Kiwias wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 10:52 am
Morgan14 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 5:49 pm Tough, tough spot for the Japanese and IOC to be in.


Delay until 2022? that possible at all? I know it would coincide with the Winter Olympics year.
IIRC, the IOC has already made clear that there will be no second postponement. If the games are nit able to be held this year, that is it.

Latest news is that athlete numbers will be around 15,000 and the number of coaches etc and other related officials is to be cut from 180,000 to around 78,000, and maybe even less.
How can they cut athletes? The participants each sport is allocated is assigned years ahead of time. Are they going up to athletes and telling them "you thought you qualified, sorry, you're not"?

Coaches, OC officials being cut, fine.

The "we can't postpone a 2nd time", I do wonder if we actually get to that point, they choose to do because cancelling altogether has large commercial impacts. There's a rivalry of sorts however between the IOC and all these sport orgs (represented by SportAccord), because the sport orgs make their money in all these things between the Olympiads like their World Championships, but need the Olympics for National Olympic Committee funding of their athletes. If you postpone to 2022, I think that wipes out a lot of Worlds if you go down the list, with any that were scheduled for 2021 already either canceled or significantly reduced in importance.

Ironically, one of the biggest potential clashes for a hypothetical 2022 Olympics, the World Cup that normally happens mid-year, is happening at the end of 2022.
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 12:24 pm
How can they cut athletes? The participants each sport is allocated is assigned years ahead of time. Are they going up to athletes and telling them "you thought you qualified, sorry, you're not"?

Coaches, OC officials being cut, fine.

The "we can't postpone a 2nd time", I do wonder if we actually get to that point, they choose to do because cancelling altogether has large commercial impacts. There's a rivalry of sorts however between the IOC and all these sport orgs (represented by SportAccord), because the sport orgs make their money in all these things between the Olympiads like their World Championships, but need the Olympics for National Olympic Committee funding of their athletes. If you postpone to 2022, I think that wipes out a lot of Worlds if you go down the list, with any that were scheduled for 2021 already either canceled or significantly reduced in importance.

Ironically, one of the biggest potential clashes for a hypothetical 2022 Olympics, the World Cup that normally happens mid-year, is happening at the end of 2022.
I believe Olympic Villages usually accommodate 10,000 plus athletes so perhaps the number of athletes isn't being cut in that report, only articulated. The coach and official numbers clearly are being cut.
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Listening to a podcast from about 10 days ago. Japanese vaccination rate was 2.2%.
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 12:24 pm
Kiwias wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 10:52 am
Morgan14 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 5:49 pm Tough, tough spot for the Japanese and IOC to be in.


Delay until 2022? that possible at all? I know it would coincide with the Winter Olympics year.
IIRC, the IOC has already made clear that there will be no second postponement. If the games are nit able to be held this year, that is it.

Latest news is that athlete numbers will be around 15,000 and the number of coaches etc and other related officials is to be cut from 180,000 to around 78,000, and maybe even less.
How can they cut athletes? The participants each sport is allocated is assigned years ahead of time. Are they going up to athletes and telling them "you thought you qualified, sorry, you're not"?

Coaches, OC officials being cut, fine.

The "we can't postpone a 2nd time", I do wonder if we actually get to that point, they choose to do because cancelling altogether has large commercial impacts. There's a rivalry of sorts however between the IOC and all these sport orgs (represented by SportAccord), because the sport orgs make their money in all these things between the Olympiads like their World Championships, but need the Olympics for National Olympic Committee funding of their athletes. If you postpone to 2022, I think that wipes out a lot of Worlds if you go down the list, with any that were scheduled for 2021 already either canceled or significantly reduced in importance.

Ironically, one of the biggest potential clashes for a hypothetical 2022 Olympics, the World Cup that normally happens mid-year, is happening at the end of 2022.
The number of athletes is not being cut but a reduction is possible by eliminating some of the fringe events, though I have not heard any reports of this being done.
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 2:41 pm Listening to a podcast from about 10 days ago. Japanese vaccination rate was 2.2%.
It is low and slow.
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Well, looks like a dead-set certainty to go ahead now. I hope no-one dies to regret it.
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And the pull out begins, gutted for the athletes.
Samoa reportedly pulls team from Tokyo Olympics over COVID-19 fears
Samoa has pulled its team from the Tokyo Olympics due to worries over the rising COVID-19 infections in host nation Japan, according to a Radio New Zealand report.

Samoa had selected athletes from several sports including weightlifting, boxing, sailing and athletics, for the Games, which are due to open on July 23.

“It is terrible, it’s disheartening, it’s very disheartening,” Samoa’s weightlifting boss Tuaopepe Jerry Wallwork told Reuters.

“They’ve decided no one goes out of Samoa,” he said of the government order. “I will now speak to my lifters this afternoon and share the very bad news.”

Samoa’s national Olympic committee was not immediately available for a comment.

The withdrawal of Samoa is another setback in Japan’s fraught attempts to hold the world’s biggest sporting event during a pandemic after it was delayed last year.

Tokyo’s new infections rose to 714 on Wednesday, the highest in more than a month.
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The Samoan government which made that call may not be in office next week. In fact, the clown in charge shouldn’t be in office this week either. The Supreme Court has told them in no uncertain terms that they’ll likely be replaced if they don’t convene parliament.

Anyway, that aside, the weightlifters were probably the best Olympic medal chances for Samoa in a decade. It’ll be devastating for them if they’re not allowed to go. Especially since the bloody 7s team was allowed to go all the way to Monaco only a few weeks ago.
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Tokyo Olympic Games: State of emergency announced as Covid cases rise

Sounds like it's going to be a mess. The Euros have been a big success you'd have to say but this looks like it's Lions tour level of shit show.
A June poll in the leading Asahi Shimbun newspaper suggested more than 80% of the population wanted the Games cancelled or postponed.
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Why are infections so high in Japan? Most countries have this thing mostly under control by now haven’t they?
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Auckman wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:44 pm Why are infections so high in Japan? Most countries have this thing mostly under control by now haven’t they?
There have been several states of emergency but no fully-blown lockdowns due to constitutional constraints on such measures. The states of emergency have been almost random while the vaccination programme has been far from aggressive or widespread.
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So, putting covid aside for one minute...what chance of NZ surpassing their all-time best gold medal haul of 8 in 1984?
Frankly I am totally out of touch these days, but presume we have chances in the usual rowing, equestrian, sailing + rugby and whatever random new sports they are throwing at us this time around (did I hear skateboarding was one??)
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Tokyo entering its fourth state of emergency declaration, this one to last until 22/23 August. So the IOC prediction that the Olympics could be staged even in the midst of a state of emergency is going to become true.
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Just saw today that the Olympics will go ahead but with no fans in the stands.
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Covid is a fucker. This is a no-win scenario
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Kiwias wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:34 pm
Auckman wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:44 pm Why are infections so high in Japan? Most countries have this thing mostly under control by now haven’t they?
There have been several states of emergency but no fully-blown lockdowns due to constitutional constraints on such measures. The states of emergency have been almost random while the vaccination programme has been far from aggressive or widespread.
Cheers mate. Ah I see. Wow, constitutional prohibitions ok. :thumbup:
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Auckman wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:26 pm
Kiwias wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:34 pm
Auckman wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:44 pm Why are infections so high in Japan? Most countries have this thing mostly under control by now haven’t they?
There have been several states of emergency but no fully-blown lockdowns due to constitutional constraints on such measures. The states of emergency have been almost random while the vaccination programme has been far from aggressive or widespread.
Cheers mate. Ah I see. Wow, constitutional prohibitions ok. :thumbup:
I believe that was the case as to why Sweden couldn't lockdown as such.
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Announced on Thursday that all events in Tokyo and the surrounding three prefectures would be spectator-free and that stadiums in other prefectures would be limited to 50% of capacity with an upper limit of 10k.
But in the next two days, news is that most of these will now be having no spectators.
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not_english wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:35 pm So, putting covid aside for one minute...what chance of NZ surpassing their all-time best gold medal haul of 8 in 1984?
Frankly I am totally out of touch these days, but presume we have chances in the usual rowing, equestrian, sailing + rugby and whatever random new sports they are throwing at us this time around (did I hear skateboarding was one??)

Hard to figure out but no actual standouts that I'm aware of. I don't think we'll get anywhere near 8 golds (and probably never will again). Tom Walsh is in top form but will probably have to settle for silver or bronze. Certainly chances in the rugby, and our rowing crews are always there or thereabouts.

My guess is 3 golds, 4 silvers, 6 bronze.
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Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:17 am
not_english wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:35 pm So, putting covid aside for one minute...what chance of NZ surpassing their all-time best gold medal haul of 8 in 1984?
Frankly I am totally out of touch these days, but presume we have chances in the usual rowing, equestrian, sailing + rugby and whatever random new sports they are throwing at us this time around (did I hear skateboarding was one??)

Hard to figure out but no actual standouts that I'm aware of. I don't think we'll get anywhere near 8 golds (and probably never will again). Tom Walsh is in top form but will probably have to settle for silver or bronze. Certainly chances in the rugby, and our rowing crews are always there or thereabouts.

My guess is 3 golds, 4 silvers, 6 bronze.
Well we got 6 in London, but you are probably right. Shame we don't do well in the sports like swimming and weightlifting that hand out medals left right and centre.
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We have some very promising swimmers - Erika Fairweather for example - but I suspect they're a quadrennial cycle away.
Well we got 6 in London, but you are probably right.
I was referring to the future.
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not_english wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:18 pm
Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:17 am
not_english wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:35 pm So, putting covid aside for one minute...what chance of NZ surpassing their all-time best gold medal haul of 8 in 1984?
Frankly I am totally out of touch these days, but presume we have chances in the usual rowing, equestrian, sailing + rugby and whatever random new sports they are throwing at us this time around (did I hear skateboarding was one??)

Hard to figure out but no actual standouts that I'm aware of. I don't think we'll get anywhere near 8 golds (and probably never will again). Tom Walsh is in top form but will probably have to settle for silver or bronze. Certainly chances in the rugby, and our rowing crews are always there or thereabouts.

My guess is 3 golds, 4 silvers, 6 bronze.
Well we got 6 in London, but you are probably right. Shame we don't do well in the sports like swimming and weightlifting that hand out medals left right and centre.
Maybe but you still need to be good enough to win them.
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grievous wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:25 pm
not_english wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:18 pm Well we got 6 in London, but you are probably right. Shame we don't do well in the sports like swimming and weightlifting that hand out medals left right and centre.
Maybe but you still need to be good enough to win them.
Weightlifting is not even in the top eight.

Athletics 48
Swimming 37
Cycling 22
Gymnastics 18
Wrestling 18
Canoeing 16
Judo 15
Shooting 15
Rowing 14
Weightlifting 14
Boxing 13
Fencing 12
Sailing 10

Still plenty of "sit-down" sports (canoeing, cycling, sailing, rowing, horsies) + sedentary pastimes like archery and shootin' to be racking up gold in. ;)
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kiap wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:48 pm
grievous wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:25 pm
not_english wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:18 pm Well we got 6 in London, but you are probably right. Shame we don't do well in the sports like swimming and weightlifting that hand out medals left right and centre.
Maybe but you still need to be good enough to win them.
Weightlifting is not even in the top eight.

Athletics 48
Swimming 37
Cycling 22
Gymnastics 18
Wrestling 18
Canoeing 16
Judo 15
Shooting 15
Rowing 14
Weightlifting 14
Boxing 13
Fencing 12
Sailing 10

Still plenty of "sit-down" sports (canoeing, cycling, sailing, rowing, horsies) + sedentary pastimes like archery and shootin' to be racking up gold in. ;)
Well my beef with weightlifting is that you get a medal in the snatch and in the clean and jerk and in the combined total ( this is all from memory mind you). Gymnastics is another one that hands out ridiculous numbers of medals. Can't complain too much because most of nzs medals come in complete minority sports.
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Incidentally the problem isn't the number of medals per sport, it is the number one person can win. Swimming has a ridiculous number of similar events, so one person can win 7 golds at one games, which is more than NZ will win in total.
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not_english wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:03 pm Well my beef with weightlifting is that you get a medal in the snatch and in the clean and jerk and in the combined total ( this is all from memory mind you).
Nah, not at the Olympics, C'wth games etc.

If you're watching a tournament that's all about weightlifting, sure. But most people only really see this sport at four-year intervals.
not_english wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:07 pm one person can win 7 golds at one games
Happened twice in 125 years
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