F Off, We're Full (of ourselves) - world's most livable city

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kiwigreg369 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:39 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:47 am "Livability" is an interesting measure.

True world cities - London, New York, Paris, Tokyo etc are not highly "livable"

They're crowded, traffic is shit, there is air pollution, crime etc etc. When the virus hit in cuts through it like a hot knife due to the population density.

They are however, the seat of business, culture and power. They are the sorts of places where if you are thriving, you're loving it, but if you're not, it's a f**king struggle.

If you want a nice yard, easy commute and a comfortable mediocre life, a place like Adelaide or Auckland makes a lot of sense.
Well said .. except Auckland is worst of both on traffic (like most harbour cities that get big).
It's changed since COVID. There are more people working from home for at least part of the week and I'm very rarely stuck in major traffic at any time of the day now. Of course any accident, like a truck smashing chunks out of the Harbour Bridge, can bring that to a grinding halt still
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Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:47 am "Livability" is an interesting measure.

True world cities - London, New York, Paris, Tokyo etc are not highly "livable"

They're crowded, traffic is shit, there is air pollution, crime etc etc. When the virus hit in cuts through it like a hot knife due to the population density.

They are however, the seat of business, culture and power. They are the sorts of places where if you are thriving, you're loving it, but if you're not, it's a f**king struggle.

If you want a nice yard, easy commute and a comfortable mediocre life, a place like Adelaide or Auckland makes a lot of sense.
What do you mean "mediocre life"?
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grievous wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:45 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:47 am "Livability" is an interesting measure.

True world cities - London, New York, Paris, Tokyo etc are not highly "livable"

They're crowded, traffic is shit, there is air pollution, crime etc etc. When the virus hit in cuts through it like a hot knife due to the population density.

They are however, the seat of business, culture and power. They are the sorts of places where if you are thriving, you're loving it, but if you're not, it's a f**king struggle.

If you want a nice yard, easy commute and a comfortable mediocre life, a place like Adelaide or Auckland makes a lot of sense.
What do you mean "mediocre life"?
You're less likely to experience of the thrill of getting stabbed by marauding gangs, but you can go to the theater. If it's open.
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grievous wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:45 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:47 am "Livability" is an interesting measure.

True world cities - London, New York, Paris, Tokyo etc are not highly "livable"

They're crowded, traffic is shit, there is air pollution, crime etc etc. When the virus hit in cuts through it like a hot knife due to the population density.

They are however, the seat of business, culture and power. They are the sorts of places where if you are thriving, you're loving it, but if you're not, it's a f**king struggle.

If you want a nice yard, easy commute and a comfortable mediocre life, a place like Adelaide or Auckland makes a lot of sense.
What do you mean "mediocre life"?
Well, in Australia that would be a couple with 2 kids, 2 vehicles, a 3 bedroom house owned with a mortgage and a household income of 75k a year.

No boat.
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naki wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:27 am That's right, Auckland. So livable, and so affordable...
Auckland named as world's most liveable city, Wellington fourth in Economist survey
9 Jun, 2021 02:37 PM

NZ Herald

Covid-19 has shaken up the Economist Intelligence Unit's (EIU) annual ranking of most liveable cities, propelling Auckland to first place.

New Zealand's most-populous city, home to 1.7 million Kiwis, beat out major cosmopolitan centres such as Tokyo and Vienna, the champion of the last poll in 2019.

Wellington also rocketed up the list, with "The Coolest Little Capital in the World" sitting at number four on the list, released by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU).

So what does Auckland have that the rest don't?

The answer: Covid.

Other cities saw their ratings tumble as the effect of the pandemic dramatically curtailed the quality of life for their residents.

Lockdowns imposed around the world lowered cities' scores in the survey's "culture and environment" category.

For example, Vienna crashed out of the top 10 entirely, coming in 12th as New Zealand, Australia and Japan cities fared best.

The Austrian capital had led the list since 2018 and for years ran neck and neck with Melbourne at the top of the survey of 140 urban centres.
The state of that fvcking writing.
So what does Auckland have that the rest don't?

The answer: Covid.
I think you'll find it's precisely the opposite, numbnuts.
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Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:11 am
grievous wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:45 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:47 am "Livability" is an interesting measure.

True world cities - London, New York, Paris, Tokyo etc are not highly "livable"

They're crowded, traffic is shit, there is air pollution, crime etc etc. When the virus hit in cuts through it like a hot knife due to the population density.

They are however, the seat of business, culture and power. They are the sorts of places where if you are thriving, you're loving it, but if you're not, it's a f**king struggle.

If you want a nice yard, easy commute and a comfortable mediocre life, a place like Adelaide or Auckland makes a lot of sense.
What do you mean "mediocre life"?
Well, in Australia that would be a couple with 2 kids, 2 vehicles, a 3 bedroom house owned with a mortgage and a household income of 75k a year.

No boat.
Adelaide's.... nice.

If you like.... nice.
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Enzedder wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:36 am
guy smiley wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:28 am Tauranga should be mentioned...

on one of those lists.
I like Tauranga. Makes me feel ...















young
I live in Tauranga. It has it's pluses.

It has a serious underclass that nobody wants to talk about though.

Ridiculous housing prices compared to income and cheap, plentiful supply of meth straight off the boats are the main issues. If I didn't have a good job there is no way I would live here.
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Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:11 am
grievous wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:45 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:47 am "Livability" is an interesting measure.

True world cities - London, New York, Paris, Tokyo etc are not highly "livable"

They're crowded, traffic is shit, there is air pollution, crime etc etc. When the virus hit in cuts through it like a hot knife due to the population density.

They are however, the seat of business, culture and power. They are the sorts of places where if you are thriving, you're loving it, but if you're not, it's a f**king struggle.

If you want a nice yard, easy commute and a comfortable mediocre life, a place like Adelaide or Auckland makes a lot of sense.
What do you mean "mediocre life"?
Well, in Australia that would be a couple with 2 kids, 2 vehicles, a 3 bedroom house owned with a mortgage and a household income of 75k a year.

No boat.
You can live a lot better than that there.
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guy smiley wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:32 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:11 am
grievous wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:45 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:47 am "Livability" is an interesting measure.

True world cities - London, New York, Paris, Tokyo etc are not highly "livable"

They're crowded, traffic is shit, there is air pollution, crime etc etc. When the virus hit in cuts through it like a hot knife due to the population density.

They are however, the seat of business, culture and power. They are the sorts of places where if you are thriving, you're loving it, but if you're not, it's a f**king struggle.

If you want a nice yard, easy commute and a comfortable mediocre life, a place like Adelaide or Auckland makes a lot of sense.
What do you mean "mediocre life"?
Well, in Australia that would be a couple with 2 kids, 2 vehicles, a 3 bedroom house owned with a mortgage and a household income of 75k a year.

No boat.
Adelaide's.... nice.

If you like.... nice.
Its the nice ones that end up in barrels.
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guy smiley wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:32 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:11 am
grievous wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:45 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:47 am "Livability" is an interesting measure.

True world cities - London, New York, Paris, Tokyo etc are not highly "livable"

They're crowded, traffic is shit, there is air pollution, crime etc etc. When the virus hit in cuts through it like a hot knife due to the population density.

They are however, the seat of business, culture and power. They are the sorts of places where if you are thriving, you're loving it, but if you're not, it's a f**king struggle.

If you want a nice yard, easy commute and a comfortable mediocre life, a place like Adelaide or Auckland makes a lot of sense.
What do you mean "mediocre life"?
Well, in Australia that would be a couple with 2 kids, 2 vehicles, a 3 bedroom house owned with a mortgage and a household income of 75k a year.

No boat.
Adelaide's.... nice.

If you like.... nice.
Yeah Guy stayed in a hotel there a few times. Hes got it covered.
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