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Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:22 am
by Dozy
Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:11 am
eldanielfire wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:41 pm
Dozy wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:19 pm
So you acknowledge that the UK is either close too or acheived herd immunity by your understanding and should now rightly STFU about the jabs and open up

It has to be said, among all the anti-Vaxx/Anti-COVOD Vaxx BS around, Dozy's particular take with "Brit Vaccine =bad, China's shithouse vaccines=good" Vaccine is unique in the categories of batshit crazy takes from what I've seen.
30% more likely to die if you catch Covid19 after the Chinese jab. Dozy likes those odds!!

Sorry what?

30% of a 0.007% chance

Thought WHO said it was only 30% higher chance of the 0.007% of getting the sniffles


Now I get that those who wet the bed alot this is huge

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:25 am
by Sandstorm
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:22 am
Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:11 am
eldanielfire wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:41 pm
Dozy wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:19 pm
So you acknowledge that the UK is either close too or acheived herd immunity by your understanding and should now rightly STFU about the jabs and open up

It has to be said, among all the anti-Vaxx/Anti-COVOD Vaxx BS around, Dozy's particular take with "Brit Vaccine =bad, China's shithouse vaccines=good" Vaccine is unique in the categories of batshit crazy takes from what I've seen.
30% more likely to die if you catch Covid19 after the Chinese jab. Dozy likes those odds!!

Sorry what?

30% of a 0.007% chance

Thought WHO said it was only 30% higher chance of the 0.007% of getting the sniffles


Now I get that those who wet the bed alot this is huge
If are are unlucky enough to be part of the 0.007% (although fcuk knows where you got that figure from…) to get Covid, then would you rather have an effective vaccine or a shithouse one flowing through your veins?

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:26 am
by Dozy
There is a 99.997% chance when you go out today you won't sh!t yourself. I won't say 100% as you could get food poisoning and sh!t happens. Now for the mRNA fans, who are beside themselves over nothing, I think we should make them wear nappies all the time just incase they sh!te themselves when out and about

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:00 am
by Farva
Does anyone know what Dozy is on about?

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:07 am
by jambanja
Farva wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:00 am Does anyone know what Dozy is on about?
It’s all Chinese to me

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:11 am
by Dozy
Farva wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:00 am Does anyone know what Dozy is on about?
I'm calling you a bed wetter

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:27 am
by MungoMan
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:11 am
Farva wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:00 am Does anyone know what Dozy is on about?
I'm calling you a bed wetter
Oooh, sick burn!

Here is some advice offered gratis. in case you haven’t noticed, you are a figure of fun. This is the only reason the banhammer remains suspended mid-air.

When you cease to provide low-level shits&giggles, it’s goodnight nurse for Doh Xi.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:29 am
by Dozy
MungoMan wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:27 am
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:11 am
Farva wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:00 am Does anyone know what Dozy is on about?
I'm calling you a bed wetter
Oooh, sick burn!

Here is some advice offered gratis. in case you haven’t noticed, you are a figure of fun. This is the only reason the banhammer remains suspended mid-air.

When you cease to provide low-level shits&giggles, it’s goodnight nurse for Doh Xi.
You wouldn't have made the effort of typing that if you weren't a little hurt.

I left the board for years and can do so again at a flick of a switch.

You are a figure of fun, but it's very real in your case.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:47 am
by The Optimist
A spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying: "The days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries are long gone.



So he wants to disband the UN Security Council? How about a single 'wit kant' ignoring all international law to claim and steal the resources of 7 other countries.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:59 am
by towny
Farva wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:00 am Does anyone know what Dozy is on about?
I do.

This is what happens when he improvises. I think the CCP take Sundays off - he likely won't get an updated memo with the week's talking points until tomorrow. Until then he'll just spray nonsense everywhere and hope it distracts.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:00 am
by The Optimist
Satellite photos reveal a military radar surveillance aircraft, anti-submarine aircraft and an armed navy intelligence ship are at Fiery Cross Reef in the Spratly Islands.

This is odd – if you believe Beijing’s assertions that these massive island fortresses are purely for civilian search and rescue purposes.

Since 2012, China has engaged in a dramatic building program in the Paracel and Spratly Islands and Scarborough Shoal.

The problem is, it doesn’t actually own these sites.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:02 am
by Farva
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:11 am
Farva wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:00 am Does anyone know what Dozy is on about?
I'm calling you a bed wetter
That’s a bit weird.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:03 am
by Dozy
The Optimist wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:47 am
A spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying: "The days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries are long gone.



So he wants to disband the UN Security Council? How about a single 'plum' ignoring all international law to claim and steal the resources of 7 other countries.
I dont think there is nothing new in that statement. If you are watching the G7 summit you can see how the nation's involved are a shadow of the powerhouses they once were.

G20 is far more relevant.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:06 am
by towny
Tough times for China. It's not easy threatening the whole world when you're holding a pair of 7's. China can do NOTHING to harm developed nations that doesn't hurt themselves far worse. Their threats are akin to holding a gun to their own head and threatening to shoot if you don't get what they want. Or, perhaps a better way of putting it, they're holding their breath and hoping the world cares if they suffocate.

It probably hurts their cheerleaders to realise this, but China is nowhere near strong enough to act like they do. Perhaps they overreached. For the time being, they'll need to reset and take a seat in the back. Maybe things will be different in 50 years or so.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:08 am
by towny
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:03 am
The Optimist wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:47 am
A spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying: "The days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries are long gone.



So he wants to disband the UN Security Council? How about a single 'plum' ignoring all international law to claim and steal the resources of 7 other countries.
I dont think there is nothing new in that statement. If you are watching the G7 summit you can see how the nation's involved are a shadow of the powerhouses they once were.

G20 is far more relevant.
Australia is in the G20. Are we the powerhouses you meant? Or is it Australia + Canada? Or Australia + Canada + South Korea + Japan?

I'm keen to learn why Australia wields so much power. 8)

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:09 am
by Dozy
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:06 am Tough times for China. It's not easy threatening the whole world when you're holding a pair of 7's. China can do NOTHING to harm developed nations that doesn't hurt themselves far worse. Their threats are akin to holding a gun to their own head and threatening to shoot if you don't get what they want. Or, perhaps a better way of putting it, they're holding their breath and hoping the world cares if they suffocate.

It probably hurts their cheerleaders to realise this, but China is nowhere near strong enough to act like they do. Perhaps they overreached. For the time being, they'll need to reset and take a seat in the back. Maybe things will be different in 50 years or so.
Sweet words. I am sure you believe that. Thankfully nobody in the western political sphere shares your views, as demonstrated in their actions and proposed actions.

You live in cloud cookoo land

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:11 am
by Dozy
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:08 am
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:03 am
The Optimist wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:47 am
A spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying: "The days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries are long gone.



So he wants to disband the UN Security Council? How about a single 'plum' ignoring all international law to claim and steal the resources of 7 other countries.
I dont think there is nothing new in that statement. If you are watching the G7 summit you can see how the nation's involved are a shadow of the powerhouses they once were.

G20 is far more relevant.
Australia is in the G20. Are we the powerhouses you meant? Or is it Australia + Canada? Or Australia + Canada + South Korea + Japan?

I'm keen to learn why Australia wields so much power. 8)
I think the powerhouse in your region is Indonesia, by some distance. A gap that will continue to grow as break neck speed.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:12 am
by towny
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:09 am
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:06 am Tough times for China. It's not easy threatening the whole world when you're holding a pair of 7's. China can do NOTHING to harm developed nations that doesn't hurt themselves far worse. Their threats are akin to holding a gun to their own head and threatening to shoot if you don't get what they want. Or, perhaps a better way of putting it, they're holding their breath and hoping the world cares if they suffocate.

It probably hurts their cheerleaders to realise this, but China is nowhere near strong enough to act like they do. Perhaps they overreached. For the time being, they'll need to reset and take a seat in the back. Maybe things will be different in 50 years or so.
Sweet words. I am sure you believe that. Thankfully nobody in the western political sphere shares your views, as demonstrated in their actions and proposed actions.

You live in cloud cookoo land
Sure I do.
It is the country surrounded by rich countries that hate them that has all the power.
After all, no one assembles phones like the Chinese do. What a powerhouse!
And they invented Tiktok - that's pretty good tbf. Narcissistic teenagers around the world love it! But really.... what is China going to do to all these petulent nations that are telling them to stfu? When are they going to do something?

Paper tiger.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:15 am
by towny
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:11 am
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:08 am
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:03 am
The Optimist wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:47 am
A spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying: "The days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries are long gone.



So he wants to disband the UN Security Council? How about a single 'plum' ignoring all international law to claim and steal the resources of 7 other countries.
I dont think there is nothing new in that statement. If you are watching the G7 summit you can see how the nation's involved are a shadow of the powerhouses they once were.

G20 is far more relevant.
Australia is in the G20. Are we the powerhouses you meant? Or is it Australia + Canada? Or Australia + Canada + South Korea + Japan?

I'm keen to learn why Australia wields so much power. 8)
I think the powerhouse in your region is Indonesia, by some distance. A gap that will continue to grow as break neck speed.
:lol:
Yeah. Indonesia is the region powerhouse!! You woudn't want to mess with them in a trade war. btw, doesn't Indonesia hate China?

Is there anyone that doesn't hate China?

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:31 am
by Ted.
CrazyIslander wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:51 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:53 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:50 am
DragsterDriver wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:10 am There isn’t a superpower to challenge China, they can do as they choose. Only western consumers can vote with their wallets, and I can’t see it.
It will be like this for centuries to come tbh. Just like the Roman empire, Ottomans etc lasted for centuries, so will China. Their biggest enemy will be from within, probably from progressives left maybe in a generation or three.
No one made America stop using slavery. That was an internal matter and the country is still adjusting to the change
It will have to be the same in China tbh. Perhaps a more westernised Chinese leader may feel some embarrassment at being called out by the international community.

I suspect that these communist regimes apply reverse McCarthyism on suspected capitalists with added torture, prison time and murder, to weed out the westernised "traitors". Look at Jack Ma.
Hmmm, ok, but what happens if they choose a more Chinese dictator, I mean, leader?

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:04 pm
by CrazyIslander
Ted. wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:31 am
CrazyIslander wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:51 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:53 pm
CrazyIslander wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:50 am
DragsterDriver wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:10 am There isn’t a superpower to challenge China, they can do as they choose. Only western consumers can vote with their wallets, and I can’t see it.
It will be like this for centuries to come tbh. Just like the Roman empire, Ottomans etc lasted for centuries, so will China. Their biggest enemy will be from within, probably from progressives left maybe in a generation or three.
No one made America stop using slavery. That was an internal matter and the country is still adjusting to the change
It will have to be the same in China tbh. Perhaps a more westernised Chinese leader may feel some embarrassment at being called out by the international community.

I suspect that these communist regimes apply reverse McCarthyism on suspected capitalists with added torture, prison time and murder, to weed out the westernised "traitors". Look at Jack Ma.
Hmmm, ok, but what happens if they choose a more Chinese dictator, I mean, leader?
That's the status quo, all the leaders so fat had very little contact with western countries in their upbringing.

In time it'll be difficult to find anyone who isn't westernised to a degree. Plus the CCP and politburo will in future be filled with people who've had a lot of contact with western cultures, notyo mention the internet.

Obviously, the case of Jack Mais evidence they're cracking down on outside influence but Ma is just the tip of the iceberg of the emerging generation.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:55 pm
by El Homerino
Mick Mannock wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:57 am It is hardly the biggest scandal in the world.

Yes, I mean what about Hunter Bidens laptop!

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:07 pm
by Dozy
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:12 am
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:09 am
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:06 am Tough times for China. It's not easy threatening the whole world when you're holding a pair of 7's. China can do NOTHING to harm developed nations that doesn't hurt themselves far worse. Their threats are akin to holding a gun to their own head and threatening to shoot if you don't get what they want. Or, perhaps a better way of putting it, they're holding their breath and hoping the world cares if they suffocate.

It probably hurts their cheerleaders to realise this, but China is nowhere near strong enough to act like they do. Perhaps they overreached. For the time being, they'll need to reset and take a seat in the back. Maybe things will be different in 50 years or so.
Sweet words. I am sure you believe that. Thankfully nobody in the western political sphere shares your views, as demonstrated in their actions and proposed actions.

You live in cloud cookoo land
Sure I do.
It is the country surrounded by rich countries that hate them that has all the power.
After all, no one assembles phones like the Chinese do. What a powerhouse!
And they invented Tiktok - that's pretty good tbf. Narcissistic teenagers around the world love it! But really.... what is China going to do to all these petulent nations that are telling them to stfu? When are they going to do something?

Paper tiger.
You are hurting real bad 🤣

On a fantastic Chinese phone now.

Next few decades gonna be tough for you and your anger levels

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:26 pm
by towny
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:07 pm
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:12 am
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:09 am
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:06 am Tough times for China. It's not easy threatening the whole world when you're holding a pair of 7's. China can do NOTHING to harm developed nations that doesn't hurt themselves far worse. Their threats are akin to holding a gun to their own head and threatening to shoot if you don't get what they want. Or, perhaps a better way of putting it, they're holding their breath and hoping the world cares if they suffocate.

It probably hurts their cheerleaders to realise this, but China is nowhere near strong enough to act like they do. Perhaps they overreached. For the time being, they'll need to reset and take a seat in the back. Maybe things will be different in 50 years or so.
Sweet words. I am sure you believe that. Thankfully nobody in the western political sphere shares your views, as demonstrated in their actions and proposed actions.

You live in cloud cookoo land
Sure I do.
It is the country surrounded by rich countries that hate them that has all the power.
After all, no one assembles phones like the Chinese do. What a powerhouse!
And they invented Tiktok - that's pretty good tbf. Narcissistic teenagers around the world love it! But really.... what is China going to do to all these petulent nations that are telling them to stfu? When are they going to do something?

Paper tiger.
You are hurting real bad 🤣

On a fantastic Chinese phone now.

Next few decades gonna be tough for you and your anger levels
😂

The phone I’m using was designed in the US, is powered from components from the sovereign nation of Taiwan, has a screen designed and manufactured in South Korea and assembled in China.

China doesn’t really make entry level phones. Well, they do but not many these days.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:33 pm
by Dozy
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:26 pm
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:07 pm
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:12 am
Dozy wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:09 am
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:06 am Tough times for China. It's not easy threatening the whole world when you're holding a pair of 7's. China can do NOTHING to harm developed nations that doesn't hurt themselves far worse. Their threats are akin to holding a gun to their own head and threatening to shoot if you don't get what they want. Or, perhaps a better way of putting it, they're holding their breath and hoping the world cares if they suffocate.

It probably hurts their cheerleaders to realise this, but China is nowhere near strong enough to act like they do. Perhaps they overreached. For the time being, they'll need to reset and take a seat in the back. Maybe things will be different in 50 years or so.
Sweet words. I am sure you believe that. Thankfully nobody in the western political sphere shares your views, as demonstrated in their actions and proposed actions.

You live in cloud cookoo land
Sure I do.
It is the country surrounded by rich countries that hate them that has all the power.
After all, no one assembles phones like the Chinese do. What a powerhouse!
And they invented Tiktok - that's pretty good tbf. Narcissistic teenagers around the world love it! But really.... what is China going to do to all these petulent nations that are telling them to stfu? When are they going to do something?

Paper tiger.
You are hurting real bad 🤣

On a fantastic Chinese phone now.

Next few decades gonna be tough for you and your anger levels
😂

The phone I’m using was designed in the US, is powered from components from the sovereign nation of Taiwan, has a screen designed and manufactured in South Korea and assembled in China.
China doesn’t really make entry level phones.
Well, they do but not many these days.
Raging 🤣
You stick to your entry level phones then
Best phones on the market, by some distance, are Chinese brands

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:40 pm
by shanky
Imagine every single person on a chat forum thinking you’re a twat, yet coming back for more - Time after time, year after year

Jeez. Tough work

What would that say about a person, do you think?

Unless of course, you’re not a an actual person

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:43 pm
by Dozy
shanky wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:40 pm Imagine every single person on a chat forum thinking you’re a twat, yet coming back for more - Time after time, year after year

Jeez. Tough work

What would that say about a person, do you think?

Unless of course, you’re not a an actual person
Raging 🤣

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:48 pm
by shanky
Compelling comeback

I’m guessing you’re not top tier in the CCP trollAcademy

It’s probably a bit like Gattaca, and you’re one of the losers. You’re Ethan, when you totally wish you were Jude

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:03 pm
by towny
The Red Army avoided the worst battles in WWII so they won the civil war once the bad guys had been beaten by others. Led by a paedophile, they've had a rough history where government bungles killed tens of millions, and poorly conceived social engineering has created a demographic bomb that will act like an anchor on their economic future.

China could have been so much more had more capable leaders had been given the opportunity to rebuild the nation. Can you imagine what China would be if the dudes that built Taiwan had been driving the bus?

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:03 pm
by towny
shanky wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:48 pm Compelling comeback

I’m guessing you’re not top tier in the CCP trollAcademy

It’s probably a bit like Gattaca, and you’re one of the losers. You’re Ethan, when you totally wish you were Jude
er... Ethan wins. He's more like that dude that isn't in the movie because no one gives a f*ck.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:10 pm
by shanky
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:03 pm
shanky wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:48 pm Compelling comeback

I’m guessing you’re not top tier in the CCP trollAcademy

It’s probably a bit like Gattaca, and you’re one of the losers. You’re Ethan, when you totally wish you were Jude
er... Ethan wins. He's more like that dude that isn't in the movie because no one gives a f*ck.
Perhaps we’re talking about different things? :thumbup:

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:20 pm
by towny
shanky wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:10 pm
towny wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:03 pm
shanky wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:48 pm Compelling comeback

I’m guessing you’re not top tier in the CCP trollAcademy

It’s probably a bit like Gattaca, and you’re one of the losers. You’re Ethan, when you totally wish you were Jude
er... Ethan wins. He's more like that dude that isn't in the movie because no one gives a f*ck.
Perhaps we’re talking about different things? :thumbup:
I couldn't care less. No way am I letting Dozy be compared to Ethan Hawke. Fark that. I prefer to view him as this guy from Saving Private Ryan.

Image

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:23 pm
by shanky
Ethan’s lovely

Apart from carrying on with the skanky nanny while Uma Thurman was home massaging her 11/10 breasts

Apart from that. :(

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:28 pm
by towny
shanky wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:23 pm Ethan’s lovely

Apart from carrying on with the skanky nanny while Uma Thurman was home massaging her 11/10 breasts

Apart from that. :(
I'm going to give him a pass. I never got the Uma Thurman thing. Don't get me wrong, she's an attractive woman and very talented, but.... nah. And she's a boogle head.

Ethan is a rich movie star and there's some nanny hanging around the house and she's not busting his chops..... if given the opportunity, once in a while even a fat wolf is going to going to glance over at a sheep and think, "I should go over there and f*ck that."

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:31 pm
by shanky
:lol: :lol:

Jesus

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:57 am
by AlanBengio
CrazyIslander wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:50 am
DragsterDriver wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:10 am There isn’t a superpower to challenge China, they can do as they choose. Only western consumers can vote with their wallets, and I can’t see it.
It will be like this for centuries to come tbh. Just like the Roman empire, Ottomans etc lasted for centuries, so will China. Their biggest enemy will be from within, probably from progressives left maybe in a generation or three.
[bit off topic]
Actually there was (not in the exact order): the Roman empire, the Faraons in Egypt, the Maya, the Francs. And China.
And now there is US, France, Italy, UK. And still China - ie the very same Chinese state entity which was present when the Romans were here, is still present nowadays.
China is the longest continuous State entity still alive in the world

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:18 am
by CrazyIslander
AlanBengio wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:57 am
CrazyIslander wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:50 am
DragsterDriver wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:10 am There isn’t a superpower to challenge China, they can do as they choose. Only western consumers can vote with their wallets, and I can’t see it.
It will be like this for centuries to come tbh. Just like the Roman empire, Ottomans etc lasted for centuries, so will China. Their biggest enemy will be from within, probably from progressives left maybe in a generation or three.
[bit off topic]
Actually there was (not in the exact order): the Roman empire, the Faraons in Egypt, the Maya, the Francs. And China.
And now there is US, France, Italy, UK. And still China - ie the very same Chinese state entity which was present when the Romans were here, is still present nowadays.
China is the longest continuous State entity still alive in the world
That's a very westernised version of it. China's political landscape was just as dynamic. Westerners just lump it all as China.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:28 am
by AlanBengio
CrazyIslander wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:18 am
AlanBengio wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:57 am
CrazyIslander wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:50 am
DragsterDriver wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:10 am There isn’t a superpower to challenge China, they can do as they choose. Only western consumers can vote with their wallets, and I can’t see it.
It will be like this for centuries to come tbh. Just like the Roman empire, Ottomans etc lasted for centuries, so will China. Their biggest enemy will be from within, probably from progressives left maybe in a generation or three.
[bit off topic]
Actually there was (not in the exact order): the Roman empire, the Faraons in Egypt, the Maya, the Francs. And China.
And now there is US, France, Italy, UK. And still China - ie the very same Chinese state entity which was present when the Romans were here, is still present nowadays.
China is the longest continuous State entity still alive in the world
That's a very westernised version of it. China's political landscape was just as dynamic. Westerners just lump it all as China.
Not at all - if you think and read about it you will acknowledge that China as same state entity exists (I am going very quick also because I am not an expert) since 200 BC at least, when the first emperor arose. Yes there have been changes also dramatic ones but there is a continuity of the State since then (ie the struggle of the same state entity through history).
China was back then (when here was Rome) and China is still there (with a chain of documents from those times till today) whereas Rome is not here anymore

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:44 am
by CrazyIslander
AlanBengio wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:28 am
CrazyIslander wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:18 am
AlanBengio wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:57 am
CrazyIslander wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:50 am
DragsterDriver wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:10 am There isn’t a superpower to challenge China, they can do as they choose. Only western consumers can vote with their wallets, and I can’t see it.
It will be like this for centuries to come tbh. Just like the Roman empire, Ottomans etc lasted for centuries, so will China. Their biggest enemy will be from within, probably from progressives left maybe in a generation or three.
[bit off topic]
Actually there was (not in the exact order): the Roman empire, the Faraons in Egypt, the Maya, the Francs. And China.
And now there is US, France, Italy, UK. And still China - ie the very same Chinese state entity which was present when the Romans were here, is still present nowadays.
China is the longest continuous State entity still alive in the world
That's a very westernised version of it. China's political landscape was just as dynamic. Westerners just lump it all as China.
Not at all - if you think and read about it you will acknowledge that China as same state entity exists (I am going very quick also because I am not an expert) since 200 BC at least, when the first emperor arose. Yes there have been changes also dramatic ones but there is a continuity of the State since then (ie the struggle of the same state entity through history).
China was back then (when here was Rome) and China is still there (with a chain of documents from those times till today) whereas Rome is not here anymore
No, there were various kingdoms and the middle kingdom changed borders and leaders all the time. The Mongols took over for a time.

Re: Chinese Tyranny

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:05 pm
by Dozy
Some amount of shite being spouted in this thread - fair play