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kiap wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:32 am Marky can mark...
He’s never getting picked for WBs, playing for us

Should probably move to the Rebels

I hear Hodge isn’t much chop down there.
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shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:34 am
kiap wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:32 am Marky can mark...
He’s never getting picked for WBs, playing for us

Should probably move to the Rebels

I hear Hodge isn’t much chop down there.
Oi! Hodge is the next Latho but one.

Mark N is the next Greg Martin. With all that entails.
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MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:38 am
shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:34 am
kiap wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:32 am Marky can mark...
He’s never getting picked for WBs, playing for us

Should probably move to the Rebels

I hear Hodge isn’t much chop down there.
Oi! Hodge is the next Latho but one.

Mark N is the next Greg Martin. With all that entails.
:lol:
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The state of australian rugby

Zorb balls at half time
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shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:50 am The state of australian rugby

Zorb balls at half time
An improvement, and a big one, on the usual Suncorp halftime fare. :blush:
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Whetton got pinged there, solely because he wouldn’t make a front-on tackle

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Is this wishful thinking, or is this ref pretty decent? (A question it shames me a tad to ask).
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Not sure if this is the best the Tahs have played all year or the worst that the Chiefs have...
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We’ve got one record..

Our No.8 has dropped the ball every time he’s carried it.
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Swinton misses that blindside break

His card is stamped!
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shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:00 pm We’ve got one record..

Our No.8 has dropped the ball every time he’s carried it.
It’s both correct and fair to note Nawaqanitawase’s abominable defence has much to do with Wainui’s third try. But why was it all up to him?

Did the ‘tahs, like the Reds, sack their defence coach because plagueausterity; or was there not one to begin with?

Faaark. Wainui has now scored four …
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It's the Sean Wainui Show, featuring his Soul II Soul tribute band - "Back2Lyfe"...
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MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:06 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:00 pm We’ve got one record..

Our No.8 has dropped the ball every time he’s carried it.
It’s both correct and fair to note Nawaqanitawase’s abominable defence has much to do with Wainui’s third try. But why was it all up to him?

Did the ‘tahs, like the Reds, sack their defence coach because plagueausterity; or was there not one to begin with?

Faaark. Wainui has now scored four …
I just want it to be over

The good/hopeful news is that they’ll actually try and do something different next year instead of picking the same fcking private school/system duds that they’ve picked year after year
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You know you've failed to make the necessary defensive adjustments when the same bloke scores four similar tries in 50 minutes.
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shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:09 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:06 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:00 pm We’ve got one record..

Our No.8 has dropped the ball every time he’s carried it.
It’s both correct and fair to note Nawaqanitawase’s abominable defence has much to do with Wainui’s third try. But why was it all up to him?

Did the ‘tahs, like the Reds, sack their defence coach because plagueausterity; or was there not one to begin with?

Faaark. Wainui has now scored four …
I just want it to be over

The good/hopeful news is that they’ll actually try and do something different next year instead of picking the same fcking private school/system duds that they’ve picked year after year
Would not such a thing be dependent on a change in those who hire who do the hiring?
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Please, get Whetton off

Mercy!
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shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:11 pm Please, get Whetton off

Mercy!
He is a bit on the horrid side
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MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:11 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:09 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:06 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:00 pm We’ve got one record..

Our No.8 has dropped the ball every time he’s carried it.
It’s both correct and fair to note Nawaqanitawase’s abominable defence has much to do with Wainui’s third try. But why was it all up to him?

Did the ‘tahs, like the Reds, sack their defence coach because plagueausterity; or was there not one to begin with?

Faaark. Wainui has now scored four …
I just want it to be over

The good/hopeful news is that they’ll actually try and do something different next year instead of picking the same fcking private school/system duds that they’ve picked year after year
Would not such a thing be dependent on a change those who hire who do the hiring?
Well, quite

I’ve been at the junior state champs today

Same ‘named’ players given inside rails to the Academy
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Seemed a pretty harsh call really.

But it's true that there's been way too many close-up shots of Whetton blowing up over some refereeing decision. That's a pretty bad smell.
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shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:13 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:11 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:09 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:06 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:00 pm We’ve got one record..

Our No.8 has dropped the ball every time he’s carried it.
It’s both correct and fair to note Nawaqanitawase’s abominable defence has much to do with Wainui’s third try. But why was it all up to him?

Did the ‘tahs, like the Reds, sack their defence coach because plagueausterity; or was there not one to begin with?

Faaark. Wainui has now scored four …
I just want it to be over

The good/hopeful news is that they’ll actually try and do something different next year instead of picking the same fcking private school/system duds that they’ve picked year after year
Would not such a thing be dependent on a change those who hire who do the hiring?
Well, quite

I’ve been at the junior state champs today

Same ‘named’ players given inside rails to the Academy
Gotta love the fast track to failure
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Aaargh faaark me roan. Edmed made a nice break and delivered a crisp pass and that goose with the headband bungled it.
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Nice offensive defence, that...
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MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:06 pm It’s both correct and fair to note Nawaqanitawase’s abominable defence has much to do with Wainui’s third try. But why was it all up to him?

Did the ‘tahs, like the Reds, sack their defence coach because plagueausterity; or was there not one to begin with?
The defence coach is head co-coach Gilmore.

Cheika and Morgs did a run through of the Tahs defensive woes before the game. The players have no coordinating idea on D ... names like Harrison and Nawaqanitawase featured in particular.

They could sack the coach again but realistically they need to be sacking players - or to put a kinder spin on it, develop them at a lower level, e.g. Marinos's NRCv3...
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There wasn't a deliberate slap down there? Or is this just a really long advantage?
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kiap wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:19 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:06 pm It’s both correct and fair to note Nawaqanitawase’s abominable defence has much to do with Wainui’s third try. But why was it all up to him?

Did the ‘tahs, like the Reds, sack their defence coach because plagueausterity; or was there not one to begin with?
The defence coach is head co-coach Gilmore.

Cheika and Morgs did a run through of the Tahs defensive woes before the game. The players have no coordinating idea on D. Names like Harrison and Nawaqanitawase in particular.

They could sack the coach again but realistically they need to be sacking players - or to put a kinder spin on it, develop them at a lower level, e.g. Marinos's NRCv3...
Yeah I watched some but not all of that so didn’t catch who was notionally responsible for defence coaching.
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MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:15 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:13 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:11 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:09 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:06 pm

It’s both correct and fair to note Nawaqanitawase’s abominable defence has much to do with Wainui’s third try. But why was it all up to him?

Did the ‘tahs, like the Reds, sack their defence coach because plagueausterity; or was there not one to begin with?

Faaark. Wainui has now scored four …
I just want it to be over

The good/hopeful news is that they’ll actually try and do something different next year instead of picking the same fcking private school/system duds that they’ve picked year after year
Would not such a thing be dependent on a change those who hire who do the hiring?
Well, quite

I’ve been at the junior state champs today

Same ‘named’ players given inside rails to the Academy
Gotta love the fast track to failure
Without naming individual lads, I watched 2 ‘Academy’ players who were completely average, but go to the right school and have been ‘in the system’ so can therefore never, ever leave it

It’s utterly depressing. I’ll guarantee you we’ll see them in the Tahs within3 years
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Not a high quality game...
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I really think the defensive problem is a matter of coaching and strategy more than individuals. Of course they're not tackling awesome or anything, but a lot of the tries haven't been a result of any particular missed tackle. Take the first one as an example, nobody missed tackle, they just weren't there to make the tackle.

Whatever his name for the Chiefs has basically walked in four tries. He hasn't had to work too hard for any of them.

The defensive pattern & strategy is just all over the place.
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:24 pm Not a high quality game...
Not a high tackle either, what the Fark is happening here? How in the name of Buddha is that a yellow card.
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Bit harsh?
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And not improved by another depressing YC

(Apologies, should have quoted kiwigreg: ‘Not a high quality game)
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Poor decision. Was he supposed to remove his head? FFS!
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shanky wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:23 pm Without naming individual lads, I watched 2 ‘Academy’ players who were completely average, but go to the right school and have been ‘in the system’ so can therefore never, ever leave it

It’s utterly depressing. I’ll guarantee you we’ll see them in the Tahs within3 years
Essentially corrupt.

But it's the system that just won't die. It's unkillable. :!:
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It doesn't matter that it's head on head, it doesn't matter that you're taller than the attacking player. Those things are irrelevant.

If you go into a tackle bolt-upright and make contact with the player's head, you are responsible.

I'm not saying I like it, I'm just saying I can get the logic and it's not as ridiculous as the commentators are saying.
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Tahs clueless, limp wristed, flacid penii.

Hard to watch this level of ineptitude by so called professionals.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:31 pm It doesn't matter that it's head on head, it doesn't matter that you're taller than the attacking player. Those things are irrelevant.

If you go into a tackle bolt-upright and make contact with the player's head, you are responsible.

I'm not saying I like it, I'm just saying I can get the logic and it's not as ridiculous as the commentators are saying.
That’s exactly what it is.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:26 pm nobody missed tackle, they just weren't there to make the tackle.

Whatever his name for the Chiefs has basically walked in four tries. He hasn't had to work too hard for any of them.
Sadly, Marky Mark is a cat on D ... and not the only one.

They are just a team of too many youngsters not ready for this level.

Shouldn't be continually rewarded with selection, but they are because of "potential" and no squad depth. Tahs organisation is a basket case.

Bloke like that should be getting occasional minutes off the bench, and working his way up
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kiap wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:35 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:26 pm nobody missed tackle, they just weren't there to make the tackle.

Whatever his name for the Chiefs has basically walked in four tries. He hasn't had to work too hard for any of them.
Sadly, Marky Mark is a cat on D ... and not the only one.

They are just a team of too many youngsters not ready for this level.

Shouldn't be continually rewarded with selection, but they are because of "potential" and no squad depth. Tahs organisation is a basket case.

Bloke like that should be getting occasional minutes off the bench, and working his way up
That maybe true, but I think both things can be true. The defensive strategy is all over the shop. The Chiefs have been walking in tries.

Nangawangawhatshisname is pretty handy on attack anyway. But yeah, that's not worth much if you skimp on defence.
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Swinton will be lucky if that’s not Red.
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Red!
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