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Australia's next submarine fleet will be nuclear-powered. The $90 billion program to build up to 12 French-designed submarines scrapped…instead opting to work with the UK and US.

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The Chinese will be keeping a watchful eye..
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Great decision - the French SSN turned into a SSK was an awful idea. The rumour is it will be a British reactor (PWR3) sitting in an American hull (Virginia class). Only downside for the UK is the RAN will no doubt be out to poach our naval officers even more so than usual.

Australia evidently needs nuclear powered boats cause of the vast scale of the pacific.
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So, No.1, No.8 and No.21 who are already ostensibly allies are going to do something or other?
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Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:32 pm So, No.1, No.8 and No.21 who are already ostensibly allies are going to do something or other?
What’s the context no 1, no 8 and no 21?

In terms of defence spending?

Because that should be 1, 5 and 11.
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So this is a big announcement because the Quad and the efforts to drum up Asian allies Kamala's tour feel flat on its face. Vietnam went so bad that her press conf was cut short by the Vietnamese to state to China that she only speaks for herself there and then invite the Chinese FM this week.

This is a united stand from a position of weakness, not the strength it seems and will be seen as such outside the anglosphere I suspect. Still, 3 musketeers, Two miles away from Asia and the other is an invader who kinda refuses to ever been seen as from the region.

One for all, and all for one.

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Dozy wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:04 pm So this is a big announcement because the Quad and the efforts to drum up Asian allies Kamala's tour feel flat on its face. Vietnam went so bad that her press conf was cut short by the Vietnamese to state to China that she only speaks for herself there and then invite the Chinese FM this week.

This is a united stand from a position of weakness, not the strength it seems and will be seen as such outside the anglosphere I suspect. Still, 3 musketeers, Two miles away from Asia and the other is an invader who kinda refuses to ever been seen as from the region.

One for all, and all for one.

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I see the Chinese troll farm bureau didn't have time to check grammar on their latest communication to its operatives.
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AUKUS!

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The other Pacific Power responds: 8)
“New Zealand is first and foremost a nation of the Pacific and we view foreign policy developments through the lens of what is in the best interest of the region," Ardern said.

"We welcome the increased engagement of the UK and US in the region and reiterate our collective objective needs to be the delivery of peace and stability and the preservation of the international rules based system.

"Australia’s arrangement with the US and the UK is primarily around technology and defence hardwear, with the centrepiece being the purchase of nuclear submarines by Australia," Ardern said.

She said this new group "in no way changes our security and intelligence ties with these three countries, as well as Canada". New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States are members of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network.”

"New Zealand’s position in relation to the prohibition of nuclear powered vessels in our waters remains unchanged."
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Dozy wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:04 pm So this is a big announcement because the Quad and the efforts to drum up Asian allies Kamala's tour feel flat on its face. Vietnam went so bad that her press conf was cut short by the Vietnamese to state to China that she only speaks for herself there and then invite the Chinese FM this week.

This is a united stand from a position of weakness, not the strength it seems and will be seen as such outside the anglosphere I suspect. Still, 3 musketeers, Two miles away from Asia and the other is an invader who kinda refuses to ever been seen as from the region.

One for all, and all for one.

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You never replied to my question on the other thread regarding your roided up wife? How much does she bench?

I'm guessing she's gotten pretty rough with you ever since she lost her job at Evergrande
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Auckman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:02 am The other Pacific Power responds: 8)
“New Zealand is first and foremost a nation of the Pacific and we view foreign policy developments through the lens of what is in the best interest of the region," Ardern said.

"We welcome the increased engagement of the UK and US in the region and reiterate our collective objective needs to be the delivery of peace and stability and the preservation of the international rules based system.

"Australia’s arrangement with the US and the UK is primarily around technology and defence hardwear, with the centrepiece being the purchase of nuclear submarines by Australia," Ardern said.

She said this new group "in no way changes our security and intelligence ties with these three countries, as well as Canada". New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States are members of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network.”

"New Zealand’s position in relation to the prohibition of nuclear powered vessels in our waters remains unchanged."
Fcuk off we're full...

France are rightly aggrieved. They thought they had a deal with Australia, only for Australia to renege on it, and apparently not even tell them. I suspect a missing fax.
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Trudeau after getting the snub. Liberals constant cozying up to China has finally caught up to them.

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bravo wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:48 am
Dozy wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:04 pm So this is a big announcement because the Quad and the efforts to drum up Asian allies Kamala's tour feel flat on its face. Vietnam went so bad that her press conf was cut short by the Vietnamese to state to China that she only speaks for herself there and then invite the Chinese FM this week.

This is a united stand from a position of weakness, not the strength it seems and will be seen as such outside the anglosphere I suspect. Still, 3 musketeers, Two miles away from Asia and the other is an invader who kinda refuses to ever been seen as from the region.

One for all, and all for one.

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You never replied to my question on the other thread regarding your roided up wife? How much does she bench?

I'm guessing she's gotten pretty rough with you ever since she lost her job at Evergrande
Didn't see it. When you make wild swipes like that you are hurting bad.

Watch them Aussie economic numbers
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Australia first for a nuke according to China...
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sorCrer wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:11 pm Australia first for a nuke according to China...
They wouldn't dare. Never gonna happen
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Derwyn wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:21 pm Image

Australia's next submarine fleet will be nuclear-powered. The $90 billion program to build up to 12 French-designed submarines scrapped…instead opting to work with the UK and US.

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The Chinese will be keeping a watchful eye..
But its the US getting the sub deal
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Rocketz wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:21 pm
Derwyn wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:21 pm Image

Australia's next submarine fleet will be nuclear-powered. The $90 billion program to build up to 12 French-designed submarines scrapped…instead opting to work with the UK and US.

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The Chinese will be keeping a watchful eye..
But its the US getting the sub deal


Not the Nuclear tech it isn’t. :thumbup:
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iarmhiman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:19 pm
sorCrer wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:11 pm Australia first for a nuke according to China...
They wouldn't dare. Never gonna happen
You mean they probably wouldn't dare. Who knows what Dozy's mates will actually get up to.
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sorCrer wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:34 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:19 pm
sorCrer wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:11 pm Australia first for a nuke according to China...
They wouldn't dare. Never gonna happen
You mean they probably wouldn't dare. Who knows what Dozy's mates will actually get up to.
Is that how you interpreted it 😂 holy shit, you are a moron
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Dozy wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:45 pm
sorCrer wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:34 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:19 pm
sorCrer wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:11 pm Australia first for a nuke according to China...
They wouldn't dare. Never gonna happen
You mean they probably wouldn't dare. Who knows what Dozy's mates will actually get up to.
Is that how you interpreted it 😂 holy shit, you are a moron
:lol: You're sounding a bit worried there Doh-Xi, ol chap.
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Maybe the Aussies saw what a complete horlicks the French have made of the vaccine research and thought that these jokers are not the people we want producing our nuclear subs.

https://www.france24.com/en/france/2021 ... of-decline
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The reason was France was selling them diesel subs.

They need nuclear subs to stay under the surface for days far from home
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Auckman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:02 am The other Pacific Power responds: 8)
“New Zealand is first and foremost a nation of the Pacific and we view foreign policy developments through the lens of what is in the best interest of the region," Ardern said.

"We welcome the increased engagement of the UK and US in the region and reiterate our collective objective needs to be the delivery of peace and stability and the preservation of the international rules based system.

"Australia’s arrangement with the US and the UK is primarily around technology and defence hardwear, with the centrepiece being the purchase of nuclear submarines by Australia," Ardern said.

She said this new group "in no way changes our security and intelligence ties with these three countries, as well as Canada". New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States are members of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network.”

"New Zealand’s position in relation to the prohibition of nuclear powered vessels in our waters remains unchanged."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If the Aussies, Brits and Yanks decide to sail the nuclear subs through New Zealand waters although they can jump up and down there is Sweet Fanny Adams that the New Zealanders can do about it.
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sorCrer wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:49 pm
Dozy wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:45 pm
sorCrer wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:34 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:19 pm
sorCrer wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:11 pm Australia first for a nuke according to China...
They wouldn't dare. Never gonna happen
You mean they probably wouldn't dare. Who knows what Dozy's mates will actually get up to.
Is that how you interpreted it 😂 holy shit, you are a moron
:lol: You're sounding a bit worried there Doh-Xi, ol chap.

Why would I be worried. Nuclear wars and weapons don't concern me..out of my hands.

If one wants the start it then the others will finish it for all of us. The playground talk here about it is so funny but also retarded at the same time
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mdaclarke wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:16 pm
Auckman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:02 am The other Pacific Power responds: 8)
“New Zealand is first and foremost a nation of the Pacific and we view foreign policy developments through the lens of what is in the best interest of the region," Ardern said.

"We welcome the increased engagement of the UK and US in the region and reiterate our collective objective needs to be the delivery of peace and stability and the preservation of the international rules based system.

"Australia’s arrangement with the US and the UK is primarily around technology and defence hardwear, with the centrepiece being the purchase of nuclear submarines by Australia," Ardern said.

She said this new group "in no way changes our security and intelligence ties with these three countries, as well as Canada". New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States are members of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network.”

"New Zealand’s position in relation to the prohibition of nuclear powered vessels in our waters remains unchanged."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If the Aussies, Brits and Yanks decide to sail the nuclear subs through New Zealand waters although they can jump up and down there is Sweet Fanny Adams that the New Zealanders can do about it.

I think that is gonna become the rule of the seas for many more nations too

Whatcha gonna do about it
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Auckman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:02 am The other Pacific Power responds: 8)
“New Zealand is first and foremost a nation of the Pacific and we view foreign policy developments through the lens of what is in the best interest of the region," Ardern said.

"We welcome the increased engagement of the UK and US in the region and reiterate our collective objective needs to be the delivery of peace and stability and the preservation of the international rules based system.

"Australia’s arrangement with the US and the UK is primarily around technology and defence hardwear, with the centrepiece being the purchase of nuclear submarines by Australia," Ardern said.

She said this new group "in no way changes our security and intelligence ties with these three countries, as well as Canada". New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States are members of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network.”

"New Zealand’s position in relation to the prohibition of nuclear powered vessels in our waters remains unchanged."
I thought it was going to be from Fiji.
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bravo wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:48 am
Dozy wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:04 pm So this is a big announcement because the Quad and the efforts to drum up Asian allies Kamala's tour feel flat on its face. Vietnam went so bad that her press conf was cut short by the Vietnamese to state to China that she only speaks for herself there and then invite the Chinese FM this week.

This is a united stand from a position of weakness, not the strength it seems and will be seen as such outside the anglosphere I suspect. Still, 3 musketeers, Two miles away from Asia and the other is an invader who kinda refuses to ever been seen as from the region.

One for all, and all for one.

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You never replied to my question on the other thread regarding your roided up wife? How much does she bench?

I'm guessing she's gotten pretty rough with you ever since she lost her job at Evergrande
Doh-Xi just hasn't been the same since a jatz cracker dropped out of his wife's leotard.
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iarmhiman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:16 pm The reason was France was selling them diesel subs.

They need nuclear subs to stay under the surface for days far from home
And that the French werent performing, difficult to work with, cost blowouts, arrogant government
ministers, technical issues.
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Dozy wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:19 pm
mdaclarke wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:16 pm
Auckman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:02 am The other Pacific Power responds: 8)
“New Zealand is first and foremost a nation of the Pacific and we view foreign policy developments through the lens of what is in the best interest of the region," Ardern said.

"We welcome the increased engagement of the UK and US in the region and reiterate our collective objective needs to be the delivery of peace and stability and the preservation of the international rules based system.

"Australia’s arrangement with the US and the UK is primarily around technology and defence hardwear, with the centrepiece being the purchase of nuclear submarines by Australia," Ardern said.

She said this new group "in no way changes our security and intelligence ties with these three countries, as well as Canada". New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States are members of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network.”

"New Zealand’s position in relation to the prohibition of nuclear powered vessels in our waters remains unchanged."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If the Aussies, Brits and Yanks decide to sail the nuclear subs through New Zealand waters although they can jump up and down there is Sweet Fanny Adams that the New Zealanders can do about it.

I think that is gonna become the rule of the seas for many more nations too

Whatcha gonna do about it
Like making islands for military bases in the South China sea to control shipping lanes.
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grievous wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:52 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:16 pm The reason was France was selling them diesel subs.

They need nuclear subs to stay under the surface for days far from home
And that the French werent performing, difficult to work with, cost blowouts, arrogant government
ministers, technical issues.
It's ironic that the Aussies ditched the French to nuke-up the South Pacific, and import enriched uranium from the US. And turn themselves into a new potential theatre of war that the major powers wouldn't care about so much. :thumbup:

The best thing about this is we may get a new Midnight Oil album.
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Whatever wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:51 am It's ironic that the Aussies ditched the French to nuke-up the South Pacific, and import enriched uranium from the US. And turn themselves into a new potential theatre of war that the major powers wouldn't care about so much. :thumbup:

The best thing about this is we may get a new Midnight Oil album.
That's just being ScoMo.
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So.......this'll stir things up a bit.......

BEIJING (Reuters) -China has filed an application to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), the country's commerce ministry said on Thursday, as the world's second-biggest economy looks to bolster its clout in trade.
Commerce Minister Wang Wentao submitted China's application to join the free trade agreement in a letter to New Zealand's trade minister, Damien O'Connor, the Chinese ministry said in a statement.
The CPTPP was signed by 11 countries including Australia, Canada, Chile, Japan and New Zealand in 2018.
Britain and Thailand have also signalled interest in joining the CPTPP.
Wang and O'Connor held a telephone conference to discuss the next steps following China's application, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce said.
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:thumbup: :thumbup:
terangi48 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:55 am So.......this'll stir things up a bit.......

BEIJING (Reuters) -China has filed an application to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), the country's commerce ministry said on Thursday, as the world's second-biggest economy looks to bolster its clout in trade.
Commerce Minister Wang Wentao submitted China's application to join the free trade agreement in a letter to New Zealand's trade minister, Damien O'Connor, the Chinese ministry said in a statement.
The CPTPP was signed by 11 countries including Australia, Canada, Chile, Japan and New Zealand in 2018.
Britain and Thailand have also signalled interest in joining the CPTPP.
Wang and O'Connor held a telephone conference to discuss the next steps following China's application, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce said.
:thumbup: I welcome China and Thailand. I'm not sure why Britain would want to join the "Trans-Pacific Partnership". They might want to look at a map.
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Whatever wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:17 am :thumbup: :thumbup:
terangi48 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:55 am So.......this'll stir things up a bit.......

BEIJING (Reuters) -China has filed an application to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), the country's commerce ministry said on Thursday, as the world's second-biggest economy looks to bolster its clout in trade.
Commerce Minister Wang Wentao submitted China's application to join the free trade agreement in a letter to New Zealand's trade minister, Damien O'Connor, the Chinese ministry said in a statement.
The CPTPP was signed by 11 countries including Australia, Canada, Chile, Japan and New Zealand in 2018.
Britain and Thailand have also signalled interest in joining the CPTPP.
Wang and O'Connor held a telephone conference to discuss the next steps following China's application, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce said.
:thumbup: I welcome China and Thailand. I'm not sure why Britain would want to join the "Trans-Pacific Partnership". They might want to look at a map.
Because the uk's had a global outlook longer than most of the world's states have existed.

and we probably charted that map you're on about. ;)
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merry! wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:32 am
Whatever wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:17 am :thumbup: :thumbup:
terangi48 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:55 am So.......this'll stir things up a bit.......

BEIJING (Reuters) -China has filed an application to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), the country's commerce ministry said on Thursday, as the world's second-biggest economy looks to bolster its clout in trade.
Commerce Minister Wang Wentao submitted China's application to join the free trade agreement in a letter to New Zealand's trade minister, Damien O'Connor, the Chinese ministry said in a statement.
The CPTPP was signed by 11 countries including Australia, Canada, Chile, Japan and New Zealand in 2018.
Britain and Thailand have also signalled interest in joining the CPTPP.
Wang and O'Connor held a telephone conference to discuss the next steps following China's application, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce said.
:thumbup: I welcome China and Thailand. I'm not sure why Britain would want to join the "Trans-Pacific Partnership". They might want to look at a map.
Because the uk's had a global outlook longer than most of the world's states have existed.

and we probably charted that map you're on about. ;)
I knew that was coming. Some people in the world don't regard your "global outlook" as fondly as you do. You are a fossil from the last century, if not earlier. And what makes you think only you were the only ones making maps? My maps don't say anything about "dragons be here".
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Whatever wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:47 am
merry! wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:32 am
Whatever wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:17 am :thumbup: :thumbup:
terangi48 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:55 am So.......this'll stir things up a bit.......

BEIJING (Reuters) -China has filed an application to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), the country's commerce ministry said on Thursday, as the world's second-biggest economy looks to bolster its clout in trade.
Commerce Minister Wang Wentao submitted China's application to join the free trade agreement in a letter to New Zealand's trade minister, Damien O'Connor, the Chinese ministry said in a statement.
The CPTPP was signed by 11 countries including Australia, Canada, Chile, Japan and New Zealand in 2018.
Britain and Thailand have also signalled interest in joining the CPTPP.
Wang and O'Connor held a telephone conference to discuss the next steps following China's application, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce said.
:thumbup: I welcome China and Thailand. I'm not sure why Britain would want to join the "Trans-Pacific Partnership". They might want to look at a map.
Because the uk's had a global outlook longer than most of the world's states have existed.

and we probably charted that map you're on about. ;)
I knew that was coming. Some people in the world don't regard your "global outlook" as fondly as you do. You are a fossil from the last century, if not earlier. And what makes you think only you were the only ones making maps? My maps don't say anything about "dragons be here".
as clint would say: every man's got to know his limitations.

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merry! wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:55 am
Whatever wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:47 am
merry! wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:32 am
Whatever wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:17 am :thumbup: :thumbup:
terangi48 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:55 am So.......this'll stir things up a bit.......

BEIJING (Reuters) -China has filed an application to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), the country's commerce ministry said on Thursday, as the world's second-biggest economy looks to bolster its clout in trade.
Commerce Minister Wang Wentao submitted China's application to join the free trade agreement in a letter to New Zealand's trade minister, Damien O'Connor, the Chinese ministry said in a statement.
The CPTPP was signed by 11 countries including Australia, Canada, Chile, Japan and New Zealand in 2018.
Britain and Thailand have also signalled interest in joining the CPTPP.
Wang and O'Connor held a telephone conference to discuss the next steps following China's application, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce said.
:thumbup: I welcome China and Thailand. I'm not sure why Britain would want to join the "Trans-Pacific Partnership". They might want to look at a map.
Because the uk's had a global outlook longer than most of the world's states have existed.

and we probably charted that map you're on about. ;)
I knew that was coming. Some people in the world don't regard your "global outlook" as fondly as you do. You are a fossil from the last century, if not earlier. And what makes you think only you were the only ones making maps? My maps don't say anything about "dragons be here".
as clint would say: every man's got to know his limitations.

stick to village.
Global village, me. Aye.
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:lol: :thumbup:
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Nuclear subs make sense for Australia. It will help protect their trade routes with China from interference by... erm.. China?
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Re: Boris, Joe and Scott - AUKUS

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mdaclarke wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:16 pm
Auckman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:02 am The other Pacific Power responds: 8)
“New Zealand is first and foremost a nation of the Pacific and we view foreign policy developments through the lens of what is in the best interest of the region," Ardern said.

"We welcome the increased engagement of the UK and US in the region and reiterate our collective objective needs to be the delivery of peace and stability and the preservation of the international rules based system.

"Australia’s arrangement with the US and the UK is primarily around technology and defence hardwear, with the centrepiece being the purchase of nuclear submarines by Australia," Ardern said.

She said this new group "in no way changes our security and intelligence ties with these three countries, as well as Canada". New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States are members of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network.”

"New Zealand’s position in relation to the prohibition of nuclear powered vessels in our waters remains unchanged."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If the Aussies, Brits and Yanks decide to sail the nuclear subs through New Zealand waters although they can jump up and down there is Sweet Fanny Adams that the New Zealanders can do about it.
The RNZAF will be getting a squadron of these sub-hunters soon. :D

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Re: Boris, Joe and Scott - AUKUS

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grievous wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:53 pm
Dozy wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:19 pm
mdaclarke wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:16 pm
Auckman wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:02 am The other Pacific Power responds: 8)
“New Zealand is first and foremost a nation of the Pacific and we view foreign policy developments through the lens of what is in the best interest of the region," Ardern said.

"We welcome the increased engagement of the UK and US in the region and reiterate our collective objective needs to be the delivery of peace and stability and the preservation of the international rules based system.

"Australia’s arrangement with the US and the UK is primarily around technology and defence hardwear, with the centrepiece being the purchase of nuclear submarines by Australia," Ardern said.

She said this new group "in no way changes our security and intelligence ties with these three countries, as well as Canada". New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States are members of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network.”

"New Zealand’s position in relation to the prohibition of nuclear powered vessels in our waters remains unchanged."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If the Aussies, Brits and Yanks decide to sail the nuclear subs through New Zealand waters although they can jump up and down there is Sweet Fanny Adams that the New Zealanders can do about it.

I think that is gonna become the rule of the seas for many more nations too

Whatcha gonna do about it
Like making islands for military bases in the South China sea to control shipping lanes.
Control or defend ...shipping lanes.....from China.

You do realise the belt and road is also about alternatives because the US actually had plans to try to starve China as part of its containment.

Imagine being so naive and stupid that you actually think the US containment if China was for good reasons and not trying to be a global hegemonic loon state
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