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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm You have absolutely not one insight into what information has been shared and with whom. Until then, STFU.
So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Share with who, the media?
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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm You have absolutely not one insight into what information has been shared and with whom. Until then, STFU.
So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Why are you so certain they haven’t? It needn’t be publicised to be shared. Most info sharing would happen behind closed doors.
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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm You have absolutely not one insight into what information has been shared and with whom. Until then, STFU.
So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Perhaps they have been advised by the security experts they have retained that it would be in their best interests to keep quiet until they’re out of the place
You still haven’t provided any insight as what the BCs motives to do this, considering that in your opinion this is a crock of shit
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In that scenario it would have made a lot more sense for NZC to throw up a security threat prior to stepping on the plane to go to Pakistan. Not play some intricate deception that involves waiting until the bags are getting loaded onto the tour bus to take the players to the opening match before springing their bail move.

What a bizarre theory.
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sonic_attack wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:19 pm In that scenario it would have made a lot more sense for NZC to throw up a security threat prior to stepping on the plane to go to Pakistan. Not play some intricate deception that involves waiting until the bags are getting loaded onto the tour bus to take the players to the opening match before springing their bail move.

What a bizarre theory.
The fear of India's reach and trickery is high.
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If I make a random threat to the AB rugby game against the Pumas will the game be called off. Surely, its their job to share with the hosts and tell them what they know
If that game was being held in the middle of blowyuppystan, and if the threat was credible then yes I assume the match would be called off
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jambanja wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:19 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm You have absolutely not one insight into what information has been shared and with whom. Until then, STFU.
So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Perhaps they have been advised by the security experts they have retained that it would be in their best interests to keep quiet until they’re out of the place
You still haven’t provided any insight as what the BCs motives to do this, considering that in your opinion this is a crock of shit
So we will see in the next few days because the PKs need to know about this thread urgently because lives are at stake, aren't they. Or do their lives not matter
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jambanja wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:23 pm
If I make a random threat to the AB rugby game against the Pumas will the game be called off. Surely, its their job to share with the hosts and tell them what they know
If that game was being held in the middle of blowyuppystan, and if the threat was credible then yes I assume the match would be called off
NZ played in Manchester after the arena attack, did they call off the tour.
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:o
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:17 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm You have absolutely not one insight into what information has been shared and with whom. Until then, STFU.
So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Share with who, the media?
No with the PK govt and agencies. The ISI is amongst the best in the World, if not the best. Surely, its just common courtesy to share with them.
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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:31 pm :o
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:17 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm You have absolutely not one insight into what information has been shared and with whom. Until then, STFU.
So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Share with who, the media?
No with the PK govt and agencies. The ISI is amongst the best in the World, if not the best. Surely, its just common courtesy to share with them.
ISI, best in the world according to Masterji. Pakistan, greatest country in the world according to Shoaib.
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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:28 pm
jambanja wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:19 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm You have absolutely not one insight into what information has been shared and with whom. Until then, STFU.
So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Perhaps they have been advised by the security experts they have retained that it would be in their best interests to keep quiet until they’re out of the place
You still haven’t provided any insight as what the BCs motives to do this, considering that in your opinion this is a crock of shit
So we will see in the next few days because the PKs need to know about this thread urgently because lives are at stake, aren't they. Or do their lives not matter
If the threat is solely targeting NZ cricket players then their lives are not in danger...

There are thousands of scenarios it could be... so no point jumping to conclusions.
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I must be pretty clear to everyone that brown lives in that part of the world don’t actually matter, because they’ve been f**ked with by white folk since white folk have known how to get to that part of the world in great enough numbers simply to fudge with and steal all the brown people’s resources.

I’m not convinced New Zealand Cricket has or had any nefarious intent this time round though.
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Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:35 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:28 pm
jambanja wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:19 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm You have absolutely not one insight into what information has been shared and with whom. Until then, STFU.
So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Perhaps they have been advised by the security experts they have retained that it would be in their best interests to keep quiet until they’re out of the place
You still haven’t provided any insight as what the BCs motives to do this, considering that in your opinion this is a crock of shit
So we will see in the next few days because the PKs need to know about this thread urgently because lives are at stake, aren't they. Or do their lives not matter
If the threat is solely targeting NZ cricket players then their lives are not in danger...

There are thousands of scenarios it could be... so no point jumping to conclusions.
So once again why wasn't the information shared with the PK and agencies. Surely these people will attack someone soon
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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:45 pm

So once again why wasn't the information shared with the PK and agencies. Surely these people will attack someone soon
What if THEY are the security risk?

Can't assume anything...
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What makes you think any info available to NZC or the NZ Government in relation to this wasn’t shared?
And why would you think this information exchange or the content of it not be suitable for public knowledge?
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mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:33 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:31 pm :o
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:17 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm You have absolutely not one insight into what information has been shared and with whom. Until then, STFU.
So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Share with who, the media?
No with the PK govt and agencies. The ISI is amongst the best in the World, if not the best. Surely, its just common courtesy to share with them.
ISI, best in the world according to Masterji. Pakistan, greatest country in the world according to Shoaib.
https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/soc ... 42516.html

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sonic_attack wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:49 pm What makes you think any info available to NZC or the NZ Government in relation to this wasn’t shared?
And why would you think this information exchange or the content of it not be suitable for public knowledge?
Because the PK govt held a press conference and said so.
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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm If I make a random threat to the AB rugby game against the Pumas will the game be called off.
It would need to be credible, and given your posting history that would be a new approach for you.
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F**k touring Pakistan. How gross. We're the world's no.1 team, we can pick and choose when and where we tour.
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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:52 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:33 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:31 pm :o
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:17 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm

So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Share with who, the media?
No with the PK govt and agencies. The ISI is amongst the best in the World, if not the best. Surely, its just common courtesy to share with them.
ISI, best in the world according to Masterji. Pakistan, greatest country in the world according to Shoaib.
https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/soc ... 42516.html

https://www.researchsnipers.com/top-5-i ... orld-2019/
So not the best in the world, thanks for the links. Good to see they are up there though, they have some of the greatest need for their services.
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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:53 pm
sonic_attack wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:49 pm What makes you think any info available to NZC or the NZ Government in relation to this wasn’t shared?
And why would you think this information exchange or the content of it not be suitable for public knowledge?
Because the PK govt held a press conference and said so.
They repeatedly said Bin Laden wasn’t in the country too. The two PMs spoke, why are you so certain nothing has been passed on?
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Have to agree with the bandwagoner, AC. NZ is the worlds best team, who cares what lowly Pakistan thinks anyway. NZ Govt received a security advisory and acted on it, simple as that. They aren't obliged to share it with a Taliban infested Pakistani govt.
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I’m just hoping for a tweet of the heavily guarded team heading safely to the airport.

#Paklife.
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I'm a big cricket fan, but it's just not safe for any touring team to tour there. You only need to reflect back to the attack that happened to the Sri Lankan team. I feel for the Pakistani players who just want the opportunity to play at home, but damn, lives are more important.
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Tehui wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:42 am I'm a big cricket fan, but it's just not safe for any touring team to tour there. You only need to reflect back to the attack that happened to the Sri Lankan team. I feel for the Pakistani players who just want the opportunity to play at home, but damn, lives are more important.

Would need to double check, but I think this is about the third tour since they 'reopened' and didn't play their games in UAE.

Although probably the first since the Afghanistan shitshow
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The outcome satisfies my biases that we should not be rewarding a country like Pakistan whose military and government openly supports the Taliban and their agenda...for reasons of self interest perhaps.

The sub continent and their neighbours are a cess pool of toxic misogyny that is a shit stain on humanity imo.
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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:28 pm
jambanja wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:19 pm
Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:13 pm
mr bungle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:11 pm You have absolutely not one insight into what information has been shared and with whom. Until then, STFU.
So tell us why NZ didn't share the information because surely its still there, and PKs could die if its credible or does that not matter. PK even offered to play without spectators.
Perhaps they have been advised by the security experts they have retained that it would be in their best interests to keep quiet until they’re out of the place
You still haven’t provided any insight as what the BCs motives to do this, considering that in your opinion this is a crock of shit
So we will see in the next few days because the PKs need to know about this thread urgently because lives are at stake, aren't they. Or do their lives not matter
If the threat was directed against the NZers, what lives are at stake?

We can only guess so why bother though.
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Masterji wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:29 pm
jambanja wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:23 pm
If I make a random threat to the AB rugby game against the Pumas will the game be called off. Surely, its their job to share with the hosts and tell them what they know
If that game was being held in the middle of blowyuppystan, and if the threat was credible then yes I assume the match would be called off
NZ played in Manchester after the arena attack, did they call off the tour.
That attacker was dead though. Also, wasn't the Arena bombing about 4 years ago? What tour was on that included Manchester?
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Well that will forever taint NZ cricket. Why did they agree to the tour if their intrntion from the get go was to snivel out of it. Do they think they have better security detail than the Pakistanis?

This is absolutely pathetic
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Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:30 am Well that will forever taint NZ cricket. Why did they agree to the tour if their intrntion from the get go was to snivel out of it. Do they think they have better security detail than the Pakistanis?

This is absolutely pathetic
Forever taint NZ cricket? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:30 am Well that will forever taint NZ cricket. Why did they agree to the tour if their intrntion from the get go was to snivel out of it. Do they think they have better security detail than the Pakistanis?

This is absolutely pathetic

Let’s unpick this starting with why you think the intention was always to back out. Having had a bomb go off outside their hotel previously (the Pakistan security detail failed to pick up on that) may have influenced this decision, not to mention the deteriorating local situation.

If they’d really wanted to back out they could have made up an excuse about not playing enough minutes.
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Davedj77 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:33 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:30 am Well that will forever taint NZ cricket. Why did they agree to the tour if their intrntion from the get go was to snivel out of it. Do they think they have better security detail than the Pakistanis?

This is absolutely pathetic
Forever taint NZ cricket? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes. Its a bloody pathetic display. Acting like they are part of the Big 3
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JB1981 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:35 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:30 am Well that will forever taint NZ cricket. Why did they agree to the tour if their intrntion from the get go was to snivel out of it. Do they think they have better security detail than the Pakistanis?

This is absolutely pathetic

Let’s unpick this starting with why you think the intention was always to back out. Having had a bomb go off outside their hotel previously (the Pakistan security detail failed to pick up on that) may have influenced this decision, not to mention the deteriorating local situation.

If they’d really wanted to back out they could have made up an excuse about not playing enough minutes.
:lol:

Every single time, like flies to shit. The Pakistani Minister of Interior considers this a conspiracy, they aren't aware of any threats posed to NZ cricket's safety. Will NZ cricket ever disclose their true info for weaseling out of a tour which must be losing Pakistan cricket millions?
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Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:35 am
Davedj77 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:33 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:30 am Well that will forever taint NZ cricket. Why did they agree to the tour if their intrntion from the get go was to snivel out of it. Do they think they have better security detail than the Pakistanis?

This is absolutely pathetic
Forever taint NZ cricket? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes. Its a bloody pathetic display. Acting like they are part of the Big 3
Nah, you are full of shit. What is pathetic is people like you making a judgement on something where you have no idea what the actual threat was. Until we know the details, we can't judge. Unless, you are aware of something the rest of us don't know?
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Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:38 am
JB1981 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:35 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:30 am Well that will forever taint NZ cricket. Why did they agree to the tour if their intrntion from the get go was to snivel out of it. Do they think they have better security detail than the Pakistanis?

This is absolutely pathetic

Let’s unpick this starting with why you think the intention was always to back out. Having had a bomb go off outside their hotel previously (the Pakistan security detail failed to pick up on that) may have influenced this decision, not to mention the deteriorating local situation.

If they’d really wanted to back out they could have made up an excuse about not playing enough minutes.
:lol:

Every single time, like flies to shit. The Pakistani Minister of Interior considers this a conspiracy, they aren't aware of any threats posed to NZ cricket's safety. Will NZ cricket ever disclose their true info for weaseling out of a tour which must be losing Pakistan cricket millions?
So why do you think the intention was always to back out? Surely we’d be smart enough to organise a conspiracy where the threat is revealed before we arrive.
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Davedj77 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:39 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:35 am
Davedj77 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:33 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:30 am Well that will forever taint NZ cricket. Why did they agree to the tour if their intrntion from the get go was to snivel out of it. Do they think they have better security detail than the Pakistanis?

This is absolutely pathetic
Forever taint NZ cricket? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes. Its a bloody pathetic display. Acting like they are part of the Big 3
Nah, you are full of shit. What is pathetic is people like you making a judgement on something where you have no idea what the actual threat was. Until we know the details, we can't judge. Unless, you are aware of something the rest of us don't know?
Yes no one knows because was no credible threat. It was a ruse. Pakistan Ministry of Interior are blasting NZ cricket, and rightfully so
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Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:45 am
Davedj77 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:39 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:35 am
Davedj77 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:33 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:30 am Well that will forever taint NZ cricket. Why did they agree to the tour if their intrntion from the get go was to snivel out of it. Do they think they have better security detail than the Pakistanis?

This is absolutely pathetic
Forever taint NZ cricket? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes. Its a bloody pathetic display. Acting like they are part of the Big 3
Nah, you are full of shit. What is pathetic is people like you making a judgement on something where you have no idea what the actual threat was. Until we know the details, we can't judge. Unless, you are aware of something the rest of us don't know?
Yes no one knows because was no credible threat. It was a ruse. Pakistan Ministry of Interior are blasting NZ cricket, and rightfully so
The Pakistan military and intelligence community has always been a bastion of truth.
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Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:45 am
Davedj77 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:39 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:35 am
Davedj77 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:33 am
Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:30 am Well that will forever taint NZ cricket. Why did they agree to the tour if their intrntion from the get go was to snivel out of it. Do they think they have better security detail than the Pakistanis?

This is absolutely pathetic
Forever taint NZ cricket? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes. Its a bloody pathetic display. Acting like they are part of the Big 3
Nah, you are full of shit. What is pathetic is people like you making a judgement on something where you have no idea what the actual threat was. Until we know the details, we can't judge. Unless, you are aware of something the rest of us don't know?
Yes no one knows because was no credible threat. It was a ruse. Pakistan Ministry of Interior are blasting NZ cricket, and rightfully so
What a load of crap. You have no idea and are clearly just trolling.
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Do you think the Pakistan givernment would have risked another Sri Lanka by letting the games go ahead if there was indeed a credible thread? You fellas shat the bed here, and now expect ICC to clean up behind you

Truly pathetic
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Big Nipper wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:52 am Do you think the Pakistan givernment would have risked another Sri Lanka by letting the games go ahead if there was indeed a credible thread? You fellas shat the bed here, and now expect ICC to clean up behind you

Truly pathetic
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