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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:18 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:14 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:11 pm
terryfinch wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:06 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:39 am

Could you imagine! :lol:
It would hilariously sh*t.
German engineering? I reckon it would kick off a massive war economy . Lots of jobs created
German broom handles and shit french subs.
Not every European country has the luxury of having US muscle and being an island nation at the same time. France's army is actually bigger than the UK's. The Germans are afraid to re-arm en masse . They should though.
VDL - Right EU people, we have to go to war with Russia.
Sweden - Err…. not sure that’s a good idea. Let’s discuss. Can we set up a suitable meeting. We’ll host here in beautiful Stockholm?
France - No way in Stockholm. Strasbourg is the stated venue for war type discussions. See EU Article 17c.
Ireland - We will try and persuade UK to help us out. They still like us. We’ll say sorry for all the Brexit bollocks and get them on board. They might convince the US (again) to come along too.
Italy - Sorry but our army has run away and is eating lasagne.

Etc etc etc
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DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:25 pm
La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:23 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:14 pm LA.

We've spent the last 20+ years fighting, our troops are well trained and combat effective, as are the Yanks. Given how long we've been fighting even our Reserves are far better trained than almost all the European armies.

The combined European forces basically have around 8000 Legionnaires who've seen any kind of fighting.

That's why the Europeans having to face down a potential Russian military threat is not worth thinking about.

OH, did the French army manage to sort out their working hours shennanigans? I was reading they weren't allowed to work for more than 8 hours a day? :lol:
Doing the logistics for the US army is not fighting. It is basically just doing logistics for the last 20 years. I Am sure you are very good at it though. :thumbup:

Are you referring to the same Russian army that sailed through the UK waters a couple of years back? Or the one bringing radioactive shit in your country and assassinating people? Just want to be sure we are talking about the same thing.
Frances military experience recently has been running around the Central African Republic (since 2013) and killing people armed only with incredibly sharp mangoes.
Can you confirm if we are talking about the same russian threat? I am not sure I'll get an answer from the logisticians though but it is worse a try.

At least, we got Central Africa on our own. You guys should try it one day.
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La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:33 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:25 pm
La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:23 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:14 pm LA.

We've spent the last 20+ years fighting, our troops are well trained and combat effective, as are the Yanks. Given how long we've been fighting even our Reserves are far better trained than almost all the European armies.

The combined European forces basically have around 8000 Legionnaires who've seen any kind of fighting.

That's why the Europeans having to face down a potential Russian military threat is not worth thinking about.

OH, did the French army manage to sort out their working hours shennanigans? I was reading they weren't allowed to work for more than 8 hours a day? :lol:
Doing the logistics for the US army is not fighting. It is basically just doing logistics for the last 20 years. I Am sure you are very good at it though. :thumbup:

Are you referring to the same Russian army that sailed through the UK waters a couple of years back? Or the one bringing radioactive shit in your country and assassinating people? Just want to be sure we are talking about the same thing.
Frances military experience recently has been running around the Central African Republic (since 2013) and killing people armed only with incredibly sharp mangoes.
Can you confirm if we are talking about the same russian threat? I am not sure I'll get an answer from the logisticians though but it is worse a try.

At least, we got Central Africa on our own. You guys should try it one day.
I'll see your CAR and raise you a Falklands Islands - despite your best efforts to sell as many exocets to the Argentinians.
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terryfinch wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:29 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:18 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:14 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:11 pm
terryfinch wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:06 pm

It would hilariously sh*t.
German engineering? I reckon it would kick off a massive war economy . Lots of jobs created
German broom handles and shit french subs.
Not every European country has the luxury of having US muscle and being an island nation at the same time. France's army is actually bigger than the UK's. The Germans are afraid to re-arm en masse . They should though.
VDL - Right EU people, we have to go to war with Russia.
Sweden - Err…. not sure that’s a good idea. Let’s discuss. Can we set up a suitable meeting. We’ll host here in beautiful Stockholm?
France - No way in Stockholm. Strasbourg is the stated venue for war type discussions. See EU Article 17c.
Ireland - We will try and persuade UK to help us out. They still like us. We’ll say sorry for all the Brexit bollocks and get them on board. They might convince the US (again) to come along too.
Italy - Sorry but our army has run away and is eating lasagne.

Etc etc etc
PR needs a colour commentator every now and then. You're an Aussie right? I picture DipierDominico.
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DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:35 pm
La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:33 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:25 pm
La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:23 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:14 pm LA.

We've spent the last 20+ years fighting, our troops are well trained and combat effective, as are the Yanks. Given how long we've been fighting even our Reserves are far better trained than almost all the European armies.

The combined European forces basically have around 8000 Legionnaires who've seen any kind of fighting.

That's why the Europeans having to face down a potential Russian military threat is not worth thinking about.

OH, did the French army manage to sort out their working hours shennanigans? I was reading they weren't allowed to work for more than 8 hours a day? :lol:
Doing the logistics for the US army is not fighting. It is basically just doing logistics for the last 20 years. I Am sure you are very good at it though. :thumbup:

Are you referring to the same Russian army that sailed through the UK waters a couple of years back? Or the one bringing radioactive shit in your country and assassinating people? Just want to be sure we are talking about the same thing.
Frances military experience recently has been running around the Central African Republic (since 2013) and killing people armed only with incredibly sharp mangoes.
Can you confirm if we are talking about the same russian threat? I am not sure I'll get an answer from the logisticians though but it is worse a try.

At least, we got Central Africa on our own. You guys should try it one day.
I'll see your CAR and raise you a Falklands Islands - despite your best efforts to sell as many exocets to the Argentinians.
Were you even born when your forefathers wandered on that Island??

You still have not clarified if you we are talking about the same Russians here? The ones who might hypothetically try to invade the EU or the ones who made the UK their personal plaything a few years back sailing through their territorial waters while giving them the 2 fingers and bringing radioactive stuff in your country?
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Good point not only have the GRU made one clandestine attack using a nerve agent, they did another a few years earlier with polonium. Both on British territory
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La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:41 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:35 pm
La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:33 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:25 pm
La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:23 pm

Doing the logistics for the US army is not fighting. It is basically just doing logistics for the last 20 years. I Am sure you are very good at it though. :thumbup:

Are you referring to the same Russian army that sailed through the UK waters a couple of years back? Or the one bringing radioactive shit in your country and assassinating people? Just want to be sure we are talking about the same thing.
Frances military experience recently has been running around the Central African Republic (since 2013) and killing people armed only with incredibly sharp mangoes.
Can you confirm if we are talking about the same russian threat? I am not sure I'll get an answer from the logisticians though but it is worse a try.

At least, we got Central Africa on our own. You guys should try it one day.
I'll see your CAR and raise you a Falklands Islands - despite your best efforts to sell as many exocets to the Argentinians.
Were you even born when your forefathers wandered on that Island??

You still have not clarified if you we are talking about the same Russians here? The ones who might hypothetically try to invade the EU or the ones who made the UK their personal plaything a few years back sailing through their territorial waters while giving them the 2 fingers and bringing radioactive stuff in your country?
"Central African Republic" :lol:

It's true the Russians have tested our defensive capabilities numerous times, they invade our airspace and our waters, it helps keep our forces trained and responsive - but we can't just shoot them out of the sky :lol:

The Russians won't invade Europe whilst NATO sits in European countries.

Without NATO and just a "EU Army" - they could do whatever they wanted.
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:44 pm Good point not only have the GRU made one clandestine attack using a nerve agent, they did another a few years earlier with polonium. Both on British territory
And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:44 pm Good point not only have the GRU made one clandestine attack using a nerve agent, they did another a few years earlier with polonium. Both on British territory
They have been giving the Brits slaps for years now...
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message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:44 pm Good point not only have the GRU made one clandestine attack using a nerve agent, they did another a few years earlier with polonium. Both on British territory
And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
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Good luck with your EU Army.

Looks like we're on for a Hat trick with France et al.

You have our number. :lol:
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DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:45 pm
La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:41 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:35 pm
La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:33 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:25 pm

Frances military experience recently has been running around the Central African Republic (since 2013) and killing people armed only with incredibly sharp mangoes.
Can you confirm if we are talking about the same russian threat? I am not sure I'll get an answer from the logisticians though but it is worse a try.

At least, we got Central Africa on our own. You guys should try it one day.
I'll see your CAR and raise you a Falklands Islands - despite your best efforts to sell as many exocets to the Argentinians.
Were you even born when your forefathers wandered on that Island??

You still have not clarified if you we are talking about the same Russians here? The ones who might hypothetically try to invade the EU or the ones who made the UK their personal plaything a few years back sailing through their territorial waters while giving them the 2 fingers and bringing radioactive stuff in your country?
"Central African Republic" :lol:

It's true the Russians have tested our defensive capabilities numerous times, they invade our airspace and our waters, it helps keep our forces trained and responsive - but we can't just shoot them out of the sky :lol:

The Russians won't invade Europe whilst NATO sits in European countries.

Without NATO and just a "EU Army" - they could do whatever they wanted.
They got the same reaction they would have got from the Central African Republic. I bet the Russians had a good laugh about it all though.
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:44 pm Good point not only have the GRU made one clandestine attack using a nerve agent, they did another a few years earlier with polonium. Both on British territory
And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
It's what happens when you're one of the big boys I'm afraid. :thumbup:
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DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:55 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:44 pm Good point not only have the GRU made one clandestine attack using a nerve agent, they did another a few years earlier with polonium. Both on British territory
And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
It's what happens when you're one of the big boys I'm afraid. :thumbup:
Oh right ....enjoy i guess .
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:56 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:55 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:44 pm Good point not only have the GRU made one clandestine attack using a nerve agent, they did another a few years earlier with polonium. Both on British territory
And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
It's what happens when you're one of the big boys I'm afraid. :thumbup:
Oh right ....enjoy i guess .
We will keep on keeping you safe, don't worry.
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DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:57 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:56 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:55 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm

And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
It's what happens when you're one of the big boys I'm afraid. :thumbup:
Oh right ....enjoy i guess .
We will keep on keeping you safe, don't worry.
Fair enough. I'll enjoy it then
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:58 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:57 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:56 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:55 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm

So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
It's what happens when you're one of the big boys I'm afraid. :thumbup:
Oh right ....enjoy i guess .
We will keep on keeping you safe, don't worry.
Fair enough. I'll enjoy it then
Our pleasure. :thumbup:
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DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:57 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:56 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:55 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm

And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
It's what happens when you're one of the big boys I'm afraid. :thumbup:
Oh right ....enjoy i guess .
We will keep on keeping you safe, don't worry.
Not from the Russians for sure.....
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:44 pm Good point not only have the GRU made one clandestine attack using a nerve agent, they did another a few years earlier with polonium. Both on British territory
And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
We went to the european court of 'justice'
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La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:01 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:57 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:56 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:55 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm

So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
It's what happens when you're one of the big boys I'm afraid. :thumbup:
Oh right ....enjoy i guess .
We will keep on keeping you safe, don't worry.
Not from the Russians for sure.....
:lol:

We've caused the Russians far more pain than they have sailing through our waters. But yeah, you cling on to that if it gives you strength dude.
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message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:02 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:44 pm Good point not only have the GRU made one clandestine attack using a nerve agent, they did another a few years earlier with polonium. Both on British territory
And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
We went to the european court of 'justice'
And?? What did you get?? Any time a GRU operative carries out a mission in the UK they know it's likely they won't be leaving Russia again.
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DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:03 pm
La soule wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:01 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:57 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:56 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:55 pm

It's what happens when you're one of the big boys I'm afraid. :thumbup:
Oh right ....enjoy i guess .
We will keep on keeping you safe, don't worry.
Not from the Russians for sure.....
:lol:

We've caused the Russians far more pain than they have sailing through our waters. But yeah, you cling on to that if it gives you strength dude.
Did you point the finger at them again?

They are still laughing about you.
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:04 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:02 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:44 pm Good point not only have the GRU made one clandestine attack using a nerve agent, they did another a few years earlier with polonium. Both on British territory
And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
We went to the european court of 'justice'
And?? What did you get?? Any time a GRU operative carries out a mission in the UK they know it's likely they won't be leaving Russia again.
European justice is what we got.
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message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:06 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:04 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:02 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm

And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
We went to the european court of 'justice'
And?? What did you get?? Any time a GRU operative carries out a mission in the UK they know it's likely they won't be leaving Russia again.
European justice is what we got.
That right there should prevent any future attacks
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message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:06 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:04 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:02 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:50 pm

And the UK outed them and told the world. Unlike other EU countries who either don't know, or who cover up any faults in their totalitarian states.
So what. You didn't get them as Russia doesn't extradite and the Russians know they can and will do it again.
We went to the european court of 'justice'
And?? What did you get?? Any time a GRU operative carries out a mission in the UK they know it's likely they won't be leaving Russia again.
European justice is what we got.
You've vetoed all initiatives that could have been of help to you while you were part of the crew.
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Prey for Europe without NATO.

:lol:
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DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:15 pm Prey for Europe without NATO.

:lol:
Why?

Russia isn't interested. The whole Russia will take over line is old now.
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DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:15 pm Prey for Europe without NATO.

:lol:
Same would go for the UK..
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Pole wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:56 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:15 pm Prey for Europe without NATO.

:lol:
Same would go for the UK..
Yup, I did infer that earlier in the thread.
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Pole wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:56 pm
DAC_ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:15 pm Prey for Europe without NATO.

:lol:
Same would go for the UK..
They've been there, done that.

They are probably looking for a bigger challenge now.
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Seems the EU army is dead in the water already….

“Becoming the first EU nation to breakaway, Copenhagen defended US President Joe Biden as “very loyal” to Europe despite facilitating the AUKUS military pact. Paris is furious that Canberra cancelled its contract to buy French-built submarines in favour of nuclear-powered technology from the US and UK. Danish prime minister Mette Frederiksen said: “I think it’s important to say – given the talks going on in Europe right now – that I see Biden as very loyal to the transatlantic alliance.”
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    terryfinch wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:06 pm Seems the EU army is dead in the water already….

    “Becoming the first EU nation to breakaway, Copenhagen defended US President Joe Biden as “very loyal” to Europe despite facilitating the AUKUS military pact. Paris is furious that Canberra cancelled its contract to buy French-built submarines in favour of nuclear-powered technology from the US and UK. Danish prime minister Mette Frederiksen said: “I think it’s important to say – given the talks going on in Europe right now – that I see Biden as very loyal to the transatlantic alliance.”
    how much can you read into these statements. Who made this statement in Copenhagen?

    Over on the other thread we've posters claiming nations like Vietnam are allied with the US and pretend they don't make the statements they did in the last weeks. Ditto Philippines and others.

    If we've learned anything in Covid we know the media is prepared to go to any lengths to tell us things are going well when the house is burning around them.
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    terryfinch wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:06 pm Seems the EU army is dead in the water already….

    “Becoming the first EU nation to breakaway, Copenhagen defended US President Joe Biden as “very loyal” to Europe despite facilitating the AUKUS military pact. Paris is furious that Canberra cancelled its contract to buy French-built submarines in favour of nuclear-powered technology from the US and UK. Danish prime minister Mette Frederiksen said: “I think it’s important to say – given the talks going on in Europe right now – that I see Biden as very loyal to the transatlantic alliance.”
    I think that last line is just a rebuttal to Charles Michel.
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    Now Macron is sending his ambassador back to US. You couldn’t make this up!!! Poor guy must be so pissed off. 😂
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    terryfinch wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:21 pm Now Macron is sending his ambassador back to US. You couldn’t make this up!!! Poor guy must be so pissed off. 😂
    It was always a silly act and a petulant. Not the first time he's done it and he's never going to take any real action.
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    Dozy wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:10 pm
      terryfinch wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:06 pm Seems the EU army is dead in the water already….

      “Becoming the first EU nation to breakaway, Copenhagen defended US President Joe Biden as “very loyal” to Europe despite facilitating the AUKUS military pact. Paris is furious that Canberra cancelled its contract to buy French-built submarines in favour of nuclear-powered technology from the US and UK. Danish prime minister Mette Frederiksen said: “I think it’s important to say – given the talks going on in Europe right now – that I see Biden as very loyal to the transatlantic alliance.”
      how much can you read into these statements. Who made this statement in Copenhagen?

      Over on the other thread we've posters claiming nations like Vietnam are allied with the US and pretend they don't make the statements they did in the last weeks. Ditto Philippines and others.

      If we've learned anything in Covid we know the media is prepared to go to any lengths to tell us things are going well when the house is burning around them.
      Danish prime minister Mette Frederiksen, apparently.
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      Joe showing his power.

      Pleased the Brits with defense policy, dissapointed them with trade rebuke .

      Pisses off the French with AUKUS , God only knows what he's given France to get them back onside.
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      iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:35 pm Joe showing his power.

      Pleased the Brits with defense policy, dissapointed them with trade rebuke .

      Pisses off the French with AUKUS , God only knows what he's given France to get them back onside.
      Florida?
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      redderneck wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:39 pm
      iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:35 pm Joe showing his power.

      Pleased the Brits with defense policy, dissapointed them with trade rebuke .

      Pisses off the French with AUKUS , God only knows what he's given France to get them back onside.
      Florida?
      Along with some fine rare bourbon
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      Re: EU Army

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      French out of the UK/France Military summit. Pulled out.
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