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Climate change

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:45 pm
by Jensrsa

Re: Climate change

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:05 pm
by bimboman
A group of scientists having their humble brag on telly. :lol:

Re: Climate change

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:07 pm
by iarmhiman
What did you make of Bojor's speech at the UN this morning about climate change Bimbo?

Re: Climate change

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:11 pm
by bimboman
iarmhiman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:07 pm What did you make of Bojor's speech at the UN this morning about climate change Bimbo?

I think he’s a c unt.

We’re about to have a proper energy crisis this winter in the U.K., quite a bit of the blame lies with “green” policies from the Tory government and trying to get infrastructure paid for on the sly.

Hopefully it will be bad enough for someone in power to realise the U.K.’s aims and timeframes will ruin society. I don’t hold out much hope though.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:42 pm
by Dozy
Hegemonic efforts while begging for climate collaboration don't mix. Some nations will need to make a choice ...wind neck in and work together, or keep stirring the pot and expect to be ignored.

The actions on this question will confirm if this is even a thing for them at all.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:02 pm
by paddyor
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:11 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:07 pm What did you make of Bojor's speech at the UN this morning about climate change Bimbo?

I think he’s a c unt.

We’re about to have a proper energy crisis this winter in the U.K., quite a bit of the blame lies with “green” policies from the Tory government and trying to get infrastructure paid for on the sly.

Hopefully it will be bad enough for someone in power to realise the U.K.’s aims and timeframes will ruin society. I don’t hold out much hope though.
Isn’t a big part of it shitty investment by VCs and hedge funds?

Re: Climate change

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:46 am
by sonic_attack
For whatever reason Lake Mead and the state of the Colorado river seemed to have been included in my YouTube algorithmic suggested viewing, maybe a year or two ago and I watch the videos now and then.

It looks like lake mead is heading toward quite a critical level over the last month or so, almost like there’s no deep shear cliff plummeting to what would be a flattish bottom full of sediment and whatnot. It’s looking like hitting that flat bottom where the reducing water level is hugely noticeable on the horizontal plane and the shoreline is racing into the flattish bottom.

This video illustrates the situation over the last month and shows the receding shoreline over the last year which is looking pretty drastic. https://youtu.be/NCBG_aVkv4s

Allegedly there’s 150 feet of elevation to go till it’s bone dry which still seems a lot, and I read that there’s noises of having to reduce consumption by between 2-4 million acre-feet :lol: (fudge knows how much that is) California takes around 4 million acre-feet annually allegedly. And the majority of that is agriculture I understand.

Breadbasket with no water. Somethings going to turn to custard.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:02 pm
by Clogs
Who won?

Re: Climate change

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:10 pm
by bimboman
sonic_attack wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:46 am For whatever reason Lake Mead and the state of the Colorado river seemed to have been included in my YouTube algorithmic suggested viewing, maybe a year or two ago and I watch the videos now and then.

It looks like lake mead is heading toward quite a critical level over the last month or so, almost like there’s no deep shear cliff plummeting to what would be a flattish bottom full of sediment and whatnot. It’s looking like hitting that flat bottom where the reducing water level is hugely noticeable on the horizontal plane and the shoreline is racing into the flattish bottom.

This video illustrates the situation over the last month and shows the receding shoreline over the last year which is looking pretty drastic. https://youtu.be/NCBG_aVkv4s

Allegedly there’s 150 feet of elevation to go till it’s bone dry which still seems a lot, and I read that there’s noises of having to reduce consumption by between 2-4 million acre-feet :lol: (fudge knows how much that is) California takes around 4 million acre-feet annually allegedly. And the majority of that is agriculture I understand.

Breadbasket with no water. Somethings going to turn to custard.

Since the 1930’s.?

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:24 am
by Pat the Ex Mat
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:11 pm

We’re about to have a proper energy crisis this winter in the U.K., quite a bit of the blame lies with “green” policies from the Tory government and trying to get infrastructure paid for on the sly.

Hopefully it will be bad enough for someone in power to realise the U.K.’s aims and timeframes will ruin society. I don’t hold out much hope though.
:roll:

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:51 am
by sonic_attack
bimboman wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:10 pm
sonic_attack wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:46 am For whatever reason Lake Mead and the state of the Colorado river seemed to have been included in my YouTube algorithmic suggested viewing, maybe a year or two ago and I watch the videos now and then.

It looks like lake mead is heading toward quite a critical level over the last month or so, almost like there’s no deep shear cliff plummeting to what would be a flattish bottom full of sediment and whatnot. It’s looking like hitting that flat bottom where the reducing water level is hugely noticeable on the horizontal plane and the shoreline is racing into the flattish bottom.

This video illustrates the situation over the last month and shows the receding shoreline over the last year which is looking pretty drastic. https://youtu.be/NCBG_aVkv4s

Allegedly there’s 150 feet of elevation to go till it’s bone dry which still seems a lot, and I read that there’s noises of having to reduce consumption by between 2-4 million acre-feet :lol: (fudge knows how much that is) California takes around 4 million acre-feet annually allegedly. And the majority of that is agriculture I understand.

Breadbasket with no water. Somethings going to turn to custard.

Since the 1930’s.?
What since the 1930’s?

You could point out it’s a natural cycle if you like I’m not going to argue it.It could well be for all I know. Was just pointing out the drastic difference over a month as illustrated in the video.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:35 am
by Mog The Almighty
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:05 pm A group of scientists having their humble brag on telly. :lol:
Spends two decades denying it's happening and then accuses scientists of having a "humble brag" once it become undeniable.

:roll:

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:14 am
by eldanielfire
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:35 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:05 pm A group of scientists having their humble brag on telly. :lol:
Spends two decades denying it's happening and then accuses scientists of having a "humble brag" once it become undeniable.

:roll:
Of course Bimbo will deny he;s against believing in Climate Change but will oppose every and all action on climate change.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:17 am
by grievous
Its been predicted much more than 5 years ago

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:19 am
by grievous
eldanielfire wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:14 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:35 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:05 pm A group of scientists having their humble brag on telly. :lol:
Spends two decades denying it's happening and then accuses scientists of having a "humble brag" once it become undeniable.

:roll:
Of course Bimbo will deny he;s against believing in Climate Change but will oppose every and all action on climate change.
We will always have the "earth is flat" brigade with us no matter at what stage of technology, science or discovery. I think its good to take the time to stop, point and laugh at them.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:29 pm
by bimboman
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:24 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:11 pm

We’re about to have a proper energy crisis this winter in the U.K., quite a bit of the blame lies with “green” policies from the Tory government and trying to get infrastructure paid for on the sly.

Hopefully it will be bad enough for someone in power to realise the U.K.’s aims and timeframes will ruin society. I don’t hold out much hope though.
:roll:

Today is the summer solstice in the UK , currently the renewables electricity are

Solar 11% of usage

Wind 3.6% of usage.

The shortfalls being made up with imported gas.

This is about 50bln of infrastructure to date. Much of that 50 raised from unseen levy’s on our energy bills (or on the sly).

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:31 pm
by bimboman
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:35 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:05 pm A group of scientists having their humble brag on telly. :lol:
Spends two decades denying it's happening and then accuses scientists of having a "humble brag" once it become undeniable.

:roll:

“Undeniable” , exactly how science works.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:41 pm
by Mog The Almighty
eldanielfire wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:14 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:35 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:05 pm A group of scientists having their humble brag on telly. :lol:
Spends two decades denying it's happening and then accuses scientists of having a "humble brag" once it become undeniable.

:roll:
Of course Bimbo will deny he;s against believing in Climate Change but will oppose every and all action on climate change.
... all action and all evidence that it's actually occurring. But apparently he still believes it.

He'll basically latch-on to any half-baked piece of crap that indicates he doesn't have to contribute even the smallest little thing on a personal level.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:43 pm
by Mog The Almighty
bimboman wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:31 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:35 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:05 pm A group of scientists having their humble brag on telly. :lol:
Spends two decades denying it's happening and then accuses scientists of having a "humble brag" once it become undeniable.

:roll:

“Undeniable” , exactly how science works.
Pretty much, yeah.

You can latch on to this "science is a self-correcting process" thing as much as you like, but it's just a thinly-veiled excuse. It's about as undeniable as the science that says if you eat tubs of ice-cream and smoke cigarettes all day you'll turn into a fat mess.

But hey ... could be wrong, right? Ergo it's a great idea to put all your eggs in that basket and eat ice-cream and smoke four packs a day.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:20 pm
by paddyor
sonic_attack wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:46 am For whatever reason Lake Mead and the state of the Colorado river seemed to have been included in my YouTube algorithmic suggested viewing, maybe a year or two ago and I watch the videos now and then.

It looks like lake mead is heading toward quite a critical level over the last month or so, almost like there’s no deep shear cliff plummeting to what would be a flattish bottom full of sediment and whatnot. It’s looking like hitting that flat bottom where the reducing water level is hugely noticeable on the horizontal plane and the shoreline is racing into the flattish bottom.

This video illustrates the situation over the last month and shows the receding shoreline over the last year which is looking pretty drastic. https://youtu.be/NCBG_aVkv4s

Allegedly there’s 150 feet of elevation to go till it’s bone dry which still seems a lot, and I read that there’s noises of having to reduce consumption by between 2-4 million acre-feet :lol: (fudge knows how much that is) California takes around 4 million acre-feet annually allegedly. And the majority of that is agriculture I understand.

Breadbasket with no water. Somethings going to turn to custard.
How many bodies have they found so far?

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:11 pm
by Sawtooth the Beaver
bimboman wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:29 pm
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:24 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:11 pm

We’re about to have a proper energy crisis this winter in the U.K., quite a bit of the blame lies with “green” policies from the Tory government and trying to get infrastructure paid for on the sly.

Hopefully it will be bad enough for someone in power to realise the U.K.’s aims and timeframes will ruin society. I don’t hold out much hope though.
:roll:

Today is the summer solstice in the UK , currently the renewables electricity are

Solar 11% of usage

Wind 3.6% of usage.

The shortfalls being made up with imported gas.

This is about 50bln of infrastructure to date. Much of that 50 raised from unseen levy’s on our energy bills (or on the sly).
My panels were generating nicely, how's the gas fired Aga? 😆

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:17 pm
by Floppykid
We need Carbon capture from some of the stuff I've read.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:00 pm
by Farva
bimboman wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:29 pm
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:24 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:11 pm

We’re about to have a proper energy crisis this winter in the U.K., quite a bit of the blame lies with “green” policies from the Tory government and trying to get infrastructure paid for on the sly.

Hopefully it will be bad enough for someone in power to realise the U.K.’s aims and timeframes will ruin society. I don’t hold out much hope though.
:roll:

Today is the summer solstice in the UK , currently the renewables electricity are

Solar 11% of usage

Wind 3.6% of usage.

The shortfalls being made up with imported gas.

This is about 50bln of infrastructure to date. Much of that 50 raised from unseen levy’s on our energy bills (or on the sly).
I had a look through this. You have around 14 GW of solar installed, 14 GW of onshore and 11 GW of offshore.
There is an absolutely atrocious solar resource, and you achieved a peak of just under 8 GW instant capacity at 1:30pm yesterday. Less than 60% at the summer solstice is appalling. This year it was at 10% capacity factor
And wind was at less than 3 GW instant capacity. So that is terrible. But looking at the capacity factors, onshore is at just over 20%, offshore at more like 35%. 35% is still pretty average for offshore, low 20%s is terrible for onshore, but is probably more to do with the age of the turbines.

Anyway, the renewable technologies are not performing all that well in the UK. I think a lot of it has to do with age - I would expect offshore to exceed 40% and maybe even 50% capacity factors if installed today.
The UK needs to consider its approach - coal and gas arent options long term (coal expertise globally are evaporating, and the UK shouldnt be building new coal anyway, and then the war in the Ukraine is showing geopolitically, they cant rely on gas).

We are having an energy crisis here in Australia, and its the complete opposite. The states with high reliance on conventional fuels are hurting badly (Qld, NSW) but those with high renewable penetration are less impacted (SA, ACT)

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:11 am
by paddyor
Farva wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:00 pm
bimboman wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:29 pm
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:24 am

:roll:

Today is the summer solstice in the UK , currently the renewables electricity are

Solar 11% of usage

Wind 3.6% of usage.

The shortfalls being made up with imported gas.

This is about 50bln of infrastructure to date. Much of that 50 raised from unseen levy’s on our energy bills (or on the sly).
I had a look through this. You have around 14 GW of solar installed, 14 GW of onshore and 11 GW of offshore.
There is an absolutely atrocious solar resource, and you achieved a peak of just under 8 GW instant capacity at 1:30pm yesterday. Less than 60% at the summer solstice is appalling. This year it was at 10% capacity factor
And wind was at less than 3 GW instant capacity. So that is terrible. But looking at the capacity factors, onshore is at just over 20%, offshore at more like 35%. 35% is still pretty average for offshore, low 20%s is terrible for onshore, but is probably more to do with the age of the turbines.

Anyway, the renewable technologies are not performing all that well in the UK. I think a lot of it has to do with age - I would expect offshore to exceed 40% and maybe even 50% capacity factors if installed today.
The UK needs to consider its approach - coal and gas arent options long term (coal expertise globally are evaporating, and the UK shouldnt be building new coal anyway, and then the war in the Ukraine is showing geopolitically, they cant rely on gas).

We are having an energy crisis here in Australia, and its the complete opposite. The states with high reliance on conventional fuels are hurting badly (Qld, NSW) but those with high renewable penetration are less impacted (SA, ACT)
Hush now, the UK would be better off with that 14% being fossil fuels.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:06 am
by Sawtooth the Beaver
The revolution continues for those without their heads in the proverbial:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technol ... d5076055a8

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:45 am
by bimboman
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:06 am The revolution continues for those without their heads in the proverbial:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technol ... d5076055a8

“ could help ”

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:59 am
by Sawtooth the Beaver
You are expecting one solution to fit all circumstances?

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:00 am
by piquant
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:06 am The revolution continues for those without their heads in the proverbial:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technol ... d5076055a8
If not this it will be some reimagining of battery technology that's needed. Worth a flutter

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:49 pm
by bimboman
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:59 am You are expecting one solution to fit all circumstances?

I’d have waited to see if it worked before calling it a “revolution “.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:51 pm
by MungoMan
Floppykid wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:17 pm We need Carbon capture from some of the stuff I've read.
Stop reading that stuff, then you can skip the cc.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:35 pm
by Sawtooth the Beaver
bimboman wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:49 pm
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:59 am You are expecting one solution to fit all circumstances?

I’d have waited to see if it worked before calling it a “revolution “.
No one called "it" alone a revolution, If I was you I'd have waited until I understood the context "could help" in the article before commenting on it.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:46 pm
by bimboman
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:35 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:49 pm
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:59 am You are expecting one solution to fit all circumstances?

I’d have waited to see if it worked before calling it a “revolution “.
No one called "it" alone a revolution, If I was you I'd have waited until I understood the context "could help" in the article before commenting on it.
The revolution continues
It’s a heated sand pit.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:20 pm
by Sawtooth the Beaver
bimboman wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:46 pm
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:35 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:49 pm


I’d have waited to see if it worked before calling it a “revolution “.
No one called "it" alone a revolution, If I was you I'd have waited until I understood the context "could help" in the article before commenting on it.
The revolution continues
It’s a heated sand pit.
It's an innovative use of a heated sand pit that will be one of countless developments to contribute towards the green revolution.

Capiche?

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:20 pm
by RodneyRegis
We're gonna heat sand up and release the heat later.

Cool, how much sand?

Many tons.

There's a shortage of sand tho.

Yeah, we'll use other stuff that's like sand but cheap.

Oh cool. What are you gonna use?

Not sure.

Sounds swell.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:24 pm
by towny
RodneyRegis wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:20 pm We're gonna heat sand up and release the heat later.

Cool, how much sand?

Many tons.

There's a shortage of sand tho.

Yeah, we'll use other stuff that's like sand but cheap.

Oh cool. What are you gonna use?

Not sure.

Sounds swell.
There’s a shortage of sand now?

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:39 pm
by Newsome
bimboman wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:29 pm
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:24 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:11 pm

We’re about to have a proper energy crisis this winter in the U.K., quite a bit of the blame lies with “green” policies from the Tory government and trying to get infrastructure paid for on the sly.

Hopefully it will be bad enough for someone in power to realise the U.K.’s aims and timeframes will ruin society. I don’t hold out much hope though.
:roll:

Today is the summer solstice in the UK , currently the renewables electricity are

Solar 11% of usage

Wind 3.6% of usage.

The shortfalls being made up with imported gas.

This is about 50bln of infrastructure to date. Much of that 50 raised from unseen levy’s on our energy bills (or on the sly).
I'm just a layman so bear with me here but 50 billion spread over a number of years to provide infrastructure that provides roughly 15% of our energy needs seems pretty decent to me.

Christ, how much money did we waste in Iraq and Afghanistan?

I could be completely wrong. But, just saying, it doesn't appear to me to be egregiously wasteful.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:39 pm
by RodneyRegis
towny wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:24 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:20 pm We're gonna heat sand up and release the heat later.

Cool, how much sand?

Many tons.

There's a shortage of sand tho.

Yeah, we'll use other stuff that's like sand but cheap.

Oh cool. What are you gonna use?

Not sure.

Sounds swell.
There’s a shortage of sand now?
How about you read the article chap.

Or try Google.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:41 pm
by towny
RodneyRegis wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:39 pm
towny wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:24 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:20 pm We're gonna heat sand up and release the heat later.

Cool, how much sand?

Many tons.

There's a shortage of sand tho.

Yeah, we'll use other stuff that's like sand but cheap.

Oh cool. What are you gonna use?

Not sure.

Sounds swell.
There’s a shortage of sand now?
How about you read the article chap.

Or try Google.
I googled sand supplies and got this as first result

Image

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:59 pm
by bimboman
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:20 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:46 pm
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:35 pm

No one called "it" alone a revolution, If I was you I'd have waited until I understood the context "could help" in the article before commenting on it.
The revolution continues
It’s a heated sand pit.
It's an innovative use of a heated sand pit that will be one of countless developments to contribute towards the green revolution.

Capiche?

We’ve spent £50 billion here already on wind, yesterday it provided less than 7% of the UK grid. The revolution is nothing of the sort. It’s wind mills and they don’t really work.

Re: Climate change

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:00 pm
by bimboman
towny wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:41 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:39 pm
towny wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:24 pm

There’s a shortage of sand now?
How about you read the article chap.

Or try Google.
I googled sand supplies and got this as first result

Image

That’s Finland after global warming right ?