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blindcider wrote:Personally, I have stopped using energy drinks and electrolyte tabs. I tend to have water and salt stick or salt tabs.

Torq gels are the winner for fuel gel wise, but you can't beat a banana IMO

Edit: you need to train the body to use gels, picking up an untried one at an aid station is asking for trouble
I use the SIS gels as they contain water and are supposed to absorb easier, with less cramps. Seems to work for me.
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Leffe wrote:
blindcider wrote:Personally, I have stopped using energy drinks and electrolyte tabs. I tend to have water and salt stick or salt tabs.

Torq gels are the winner for fuel gel wise, but you can't beat a banana IMO

Edit: you need to train the body to use gels, picking up an untried one at an aid station is asking for trouble
I use the SIS gels as they contain water and are supposed to absorb easier, with less cramps. Seems to work for me.
The texture of those SIS ones is proper nasty
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blindcider wrote:
Leffe wrote:
blindcider wrote:Personally, I have stopped using energy drinks and electrolyte tabs. I tend to have water and salt stick or salt tabs.

Torq gels are the winner for fuel gel wise, but you can't beat a banana IMO

Edit: you need to train the body to use gels, picking up an untried one at an aid station is asking for trouble
I use the SIS gels as they contain water and are supposed to absorb easier, with less cramps. Seems to work for me.
The texture of those SIS ones is proper nasty
When I'm taking one, I've typically bigger concerns :lol: . Salt in my eyes, blowing lungs and general leg aches...

Seriously, it could be nicer, but the cramps are avoided (supposedly).
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The Torq energy bars are nice - apricot and mango ones especially. Otherwise soft rolls with peanut butter and marmite.
Used to always carry a couple of the Zipvit caffeine energy gels as a get out of jail card - immediate boost but a nasty
headache later....
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I like the SIS ones, or Kinetica. The cola ones are really nice. But yeah, do nasty stuff to your stomach. I've tried to bring "proper" foods on rides now; pre-made sandwiches, malt loaf, bananas, other fruits. They all get kind of messy and squashed though.

I used PhD Battery for my sports drink. Not completely convinced on it, I think I prefer water and eating my carbs.

Suppose at the end of the day it's all personal taste.
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cold new potatoes wrapped in foil sprinkled with salt.

perfect for my stomach
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The Clif family own a winery up the road here and host a lot of local rides etc. Last time I was there the server hooked me up with a bunch of mini bars. The full-size Clifs are too big for a ride shorter than 2-3 hours, and I never have time for that any more.

Ive always sworn by water, but the locals recommended Nuun tabs for my ride up the Volcano in Hawaii. I refilled 3 times, 1 bottle of water 1 of Nuun, and had no trouble with cramps. I’d done a 3hr hilly ride a couple weeks before on only water and food, and was in way worse shape.

I like the clif gels as well, non-caffeine version though. Decent flavour, go down easy, quick kick of energy. They do make a difference hitting the last climb of the day.
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Armchair_Superstar wrote:
BlackMac wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:For anything over 4 hours I start to use Clif bars, bananas and High 5 4:1. A bit of fibre and protein seems to stave off the intestinal revolt. The last year of the Giro sportive out of Belfast, they saved themselves money on the food stops and all that was left was caffeine gels. People were shitting in the fields along the side of the road :lol:
Waste of money. Slices of Soreen with honey spread in between.
If you're only using them for big rides its not that much of an expense for non-Scots. Also Clifs are actually crushed to make them compact, and individually wrapped which makes them easy to reach for out of a jersey pocket when you're hanging on a bit. It depends how hard you're going to ride obviously.
Any self respecting Scot knows it’s marmalade sandwiches for riding on own, mustard and marmite for group rides.
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I used to use Hammer HEED, Cliff Bars and gels but they get me bad gas and I got sick of the sugar after a while. I now make my own rice cakes (well mostly my wife does these days), there are plenty of recipes online and I use NUUN tablets during the summer. I'll still carry a couple of gels for emergency on bike fueling, but rarely use them. Overall this approach works much better for me.

I did 122 miles in the Texas heat/humidity on Sunday morning, I ate/drunk - large bowl of porridge and a banana before the ride, then 3 rice cakes, 3 bananas and 10 x 24oz bottles each with a NUNN tablet during the ride. Felt great in the afternoon, if fact I smoked a couple of racks of ribs for dinner :D
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I don’t get to ride enough to make homemade rice cakes worth the effort. Even the clif bars are sitting in a container in the pantry. Taunting me. “We’ll be dust the next time you ride a full day” they’re saying to me.
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DOB wrote:I don’t get to ride enough to make homemade rice cakes worth the effort. Even the clif bars are sitting in a container in the pantry. Taunting me. “We’ll be dust the next time you ride a full day” they’re saying to me.
DOB you should give yourself an uppercut for not riding more in the beautiful countryside where you live :x






I'm only jealous





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Spyglass wrote:
DOB wrote:I don’t get to ride enough to make homemade rice cakes worth the effort. Even the clif bars are sitting in a container in the pantry. Taunting me. “We’ll be dust the next time you ride a full day” they’re saying to me.
DOB you should give yourself an uppercut for not riding more in the beautiful countryside where you live :x






I'm only jealous





very
Tell you what, you come over here and mind my kids for a weekend, I’ll let you take home all the photos I take of the beautiful countryside that I spend that 48 hours riding through.
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if you like you can do mine as well but you will only get photos of the home counties.
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ukjim wrote:if you like you can do mine as well but you will only get photos of the home counties.
Grooming alert.
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frillage wrote:
ukjim wrote:if you like you can do mine as well but you will only get photos of the home counties.
Grooming alert.
But only in the sense that ukjim is actually trying to hire Spyglass to work as a groom in his stables.
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ukjim wrote:if you like you can do mine as well but you will only get photos of the home counties.
I'll happily trade kids with you, my boys are 16 and 18 and going through their teenage "issues", so they can be very challenging at times.....a good hammerfest with the club is an excellent form of stress relief, even if the local scenery isn't exactly stimulating :D
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Went to a nice sportive over the weekend on Ireland's west coast. 160km and not too much climbing, very hilly though which was draining. Typically for the west coast of Ireland we got the entire 4 seasons, it hailed and I got sunburn. Go figure.

Sadly after only 6 months of use my Garmin Edge 520 has started glitching out and malfunctioning. After charging it the Friday morning it wouldn't turn on on Friday evening, wouldn't even charge. I was raging because as you know if it doesn't go on strava it hasn't happened. Got it working the next morning by persistently trying to turn it on, but it was almost zero battery, so had to charge it to 50% and take a gamble which tbf worked out. Pretty shit though that it would crap out so soon, I know that it's under warranty but who is to say the next unit won't do the same?
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Bullettyme wrote:Went to a nice sportive over the weekend on Ireland's west coast. 160km and not too much climbing, very hilly though which was draining. Typically for the west coast of Ireland we got the entire 4 seasons, it hailed and I got sunburn. Go figure.

Sadly after only 6 months of use my Garmin Edge 520 has started glitching out and malfunctioning. After charging it the Friday morning it wouldn't turn on on Friday evening, wouldn't even charge. I was raging because as you know if it doesn't go on strava it hasn't happened. Got it working the next morning by persistently trying to turn it on, but it was almost zero battery, so had to charge it to 50% and take a gamble which tbf worked out. Pretty shit though that it would crap out so soon, I know that it's under warranty but who is to say the next unit won't do the same?
I'm on my third Garmin in 8 years and it's likely to be my last:

500 - screen went black.
810 - parts of the touch screen stopped working so I couldn't use it.
520 - it's recently decided to stop auto uploading to Strava and Training Peaks through Bluetooth, so I have to keep connecting it to a PC after each ride.

I don't abuse them but they only seem to last me around 3 years each.

Many of my friends are switching to the Wahoo Element or Bolt, generally they are very pleased with them, easy to setup through your phone and not as glitchy as the Garmins.
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I have a Garmin golf GPS and it is still going strong after about 5 or 6 years. I guess the demands/ requirements of a golf device are very different to cycling though.
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Yeah I'm thinking if it happens again I'll just move on to a Wahoo, seems to get good reviews. Have told myself that I wouldn't be spending any more on bikes or bike related items though :blush:
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I got the elemnt bolt. Its by far and away the best gps I have ever owned.
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Bullettyme wrote:Went to a nice sportive over the weekend on Ireland's west coast. 160km and not too much climbing, very hilly though which was draining. Typically for the west coast of Ireland we got the entire 4 seasons, it hailed and I got sunburn. Go figure.

Sadly after only 6 months of use my Garmin Edge 520 has started glitching out and malfunctioning. After charging it the Friday morning it wouldn't turn on on Friday evening, wouldn't even charge. I was raging because as you know if it doesn't go on strava it hasn't happened. Got it working the next morning by persistently trying to turn it on, but it was almost zero battery, so had to charge it to 50% and take a gamble which tbf worked out. Pretty shit though that it would crap out so soon, I know that it's under warranty but who is to say the next unit won't do the same?
That sucks!

I don't use Garmin any longer, only smartphone.
Apps...

IpSensorman - connect Ant+ HE strap to phone
IPhone- bike computer app

U use a quad lock case to attach to bars. Works quite well.
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Bullettyme wrote:Went to a nice sportive over the weekend on Ireland's west coast. 160km and not too much climbing, very hilly though which was draining. Typically for the west coast of Ireland we got the entire 4 seasons, it hailed and I got sunburn. Go figure.

Sadly after only 6 months of use my Garmin Edge 520 has started glitching out and malfunctioning. After charging it the Friday morning it wouldn't turn on on Friday evening, wouldn't even charge. I was raging because as you know if it doesn't go on strava it hasn't happened. Got it working the next morning by persistently trying to turn it on, but it was almost zero battery, so had to charge it to 50% and take a gamble which tbf worked out. Pretty shit though that it would crap out so soon, I know that it's under warranty but who is to say the next unit won't do the same?
:thumbup: for the 160 btw. Some pain this week?
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I would always worry about the battery life of my phone and knocking it out of a holder, plus I'd feel it a little too big on my handlebars so that's why I'd use the GPS unit and previously one of the Cateye yokes.

Legs weren't too bad the next day, there wasn't too much climbing. Questionable choices for nutrition and hydration post-ride probably contributed to a lingering fatigue the next day though!
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Bullettyme wrote:I would always worry about the battery life of my phone and knocking it out of a holder, plus I'd feel it a little too big on my handlebars so that's why I'd use the GPS unit and previously one of the Cateye yokes.

Legs weren't too bad the next day, there wasn't too much climbing. Questionable choices for nutrition and hydration post-ride probably contributed to a lingering fatigue the next day though!
I have a Samsung S7 and it's leaving 30% battery after 4 hours of riding (running Strava and mapmyride in background) and IPBike in foreground (screen on throughout the ride). The Quadlock system is 100% on a road bike, excellent system for clamping the phone. What I like is that when I need navigation, it's google maps nav, not some 15 year old looking graphics thing, which is what the specialist bike computers look like to me (dunno if this is 100% accurate observation). It looks a bit big, but I'm not gonna spend e300 on something which is effctively a massive graphical downgrade.
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I moved from Garmin Edge 810 to Elemnt Bolt this year and am really happy with the Bolt, works well both outside and on the turbo.
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Anyone worked out live tracking on their Garmin? Just saw this article on rainmaker about Strava’s rebranding their premium to “Summit.” https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2018/08/str ... model.html

The bit that struck me was
The Safety Pack: This is the one I think they nailed – and probably the one most interesting variant to split out, which gives you Strava Beacon. It also gives you personal heatmaps, but let’s be honest – nobody cares about paying for that anyway. It’s Beacon that’s interesting for the majority of phone-focused users. I say phone-focused, because anyone with a Wahoo or Garmin device already has live tracking anyway for free. So they’re unlikely to pay Strava for it since the overlap is significant.
If the mother of my chisellers could stalk, I mean, track me mid-ride, she might be less paranoid about letting me go out myself for a couple hours of a weekend morning.



I have a refurbed 310xt, which is great for a running plus cycling option. The screen is very much Nokia 3310-style graphics, but I grew up riding with a Cateye Mity , so I don’t need much more than the basics and don’t mess me stopping and pulling out my phone for google maps if I don’t already know which way I’m going.
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my missus will never find out about live tracking.

how else can I stop for cake on a sunday?
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Bullettyme wrote:I would always worry about the battery life of my phone and knocking it out of a holder, plus I'd feel it a little too big on my handlebars so that's why I'd use the GPS unit and previously one of the Cateye yokes.

Legs weren't too bad the next day, there wasn't too much climbing. Questionable choices for nutrition and hydration post-ride probably contributed to a lingering fatigue the next day though!

That's a killer. On my longest ever ride of 130 miles the bloody thing ran out at 103 miles and as they say, "if it isn't on Strava it didn't happen"
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Just bought these today. Has anybody tried them yet

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They arrived today and I think these are going to be a huge success. Obviously it's a pain having to put your bike horizontal everytime you want to change the wheel but if you are a commuter running schwabe marathon plus how often is that going to be
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They look quite handy to have if you're around the city, I could see it being a minor inconvenience if you have to change a tube but nothing too bad. Smart tech :thumbup:

Going to Canada next week for a holiday and hired a Giant Defy in Ottawa so I can take a day and do some cycling to a local national park (Gatineau). They include all the shoes, cleats and helmet which is pretty handy because otherwise I wouldn't bother. Hopefully I won't get smashed by some gas guzzler :uhoh:
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Anonymous. wrote:They arrived today and I think these are going to be a huge success. Obviously it's a pain having to put your bike horizontal everytime you want to change the wheel but if you are a commuter running schwabe marathon plus how often is that going to be
Every ten years perhaps
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Mick Mannock wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:They arrived today and I think these are going to be a huge success. Obviously it's a pain having to put your bike horizontal everytime you want to change the wheel but if you are a commuter running schwabe marathon plus how often is that going to be
Every ten years perhaps
2 years max.
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shaggy wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:They arrived today and I think these are going to be a huge success. Obviously it's a pain having to put your bike horizontal everytime you want to change the wheel but if you are a commuter running schwabe marathon plus how often is that going to be
Every ten years perhaps
2 years max.
He is a commuter not a tour cyclist. A commuter should get a lot of trouble-free life out of Marathon Plus.

Having said that, you are probably right as the rubber will deteriorate anyway
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Mick Mannock wrote:
shaggy wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:They arrived today and I think these are going to be a huge success. Obviously it's a pain having to put your bike horizontal everytime you want to change the wheel but if you are a commuter running schwabe marathon plus how often is that going to be
Every ten years perhaps
2 years max.
He is a commuter not a tour cyclist. A commuter should get a lot of trouble-free life out of Marathon Plus.

Having said that, you are probably right as the rubber will deteriorate anyway
I commute 125 miles a week and the best i have had is 2 years out of tyre before a puncture, schwable included. Then it is replaced as you start to get lots from then on in.
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Speaking of cycling and phones, I had to respect two Germans I saw this past week (at least for their skill, though not for lack of safety) ... both students near the uni campus.

One was a girl carrying on a full convo with both hands on the bars and her phone tucked between head and shoulder. Going at a good pace as well.

The other was a guy doing the opposite. Two-handed texting for at least a couple of blocks and not a wobble of the bike at all. Me, I can't even do a few metres no-handed. :blush:
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Also, Jan Ullrich :uhoh:

He is a very troubled individual, in very serious trouble. I hope he gets the help he needs now, but those are serious allegations.
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Just back from a monster ride (for me) from Rathfarnham (south Dublin) to glendalough via Johnny Fox's and Enniskerry (the hilly part) then back past Sally Gap Glencree to Rathfarnham.

I'm pooped. 2k vertical and close to 100k (Strava). Wicklow is fab.

Slightly proud of myself after that. Not conditioned for stints like that. AVG HR 159 max 190 :uhoh:
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nardol wrote:Just back from a monster ride (for me) from Rathfarnham (south Dublin) to glendalough via Johnny Fox's and Enniskerry (the hilly part) then back past Sally Gap Glencree to Rathfarnham.

I'm pooped. 2k vertical and close to 100k (Strava). Wicklow is fab.

Slightly proud of myself after that. Not conditioned for stints like that. AVG HR 159 max 190 :uhoh:
:thumbup:

I used to ride around there when I lived in Rathgar, fantastic scenery! Did the Wicklow 200 as my first ever sportif.

2k vertical is nice, i wish i still had that on my doorstep. Still, im currently in the car park lot of Munich football ground on my way to Sth Tyrol and North Lake Garda..
Gonna test out the flat land legs :uhoh:
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