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...are all better Bonds than any Englishman:
Sean Connery voted best Bond, with Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan runners up

Sean Connery has swept to victory in a new survey seeking to find the best ever James Bond, with actors assumed to be strong contenders sidelined in favour of dark sheep.

Connery took 56% of the vote in the first round of the Radio Times poll; as befits the gravity of the issue at hand, a complicated multi-knockout round system was employed.

In the final reckoning, Timothy Dalton was the surprise runner-up, taking 32% of the votes in the climactic round, with Connery on 44% and Pierce Brosnan on 23%.

Trailing behind were Roger Moore – often assumed to be a firm fan favourite – incumbent Bond Daniel Craig, and George Lazenby.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/a ... runners-up
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Dalton's Bond was pretty bad-ass. I do like Craig's, but a couple of his movies were absolute duds. Brosnan's have the fun 90s action movie vibe, before that disappeared. Everything's too serious these days.

I think everyone can agree that Moore was the worst. Lazenby was pants, but it was only for the one film.
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Dalton was great in Licence to Kill.
Pierce did well with Goldeneye and TND but though the rest of his were fairly meh.
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I would go:

Connery
Dalton
Craig
Moore
Brosnan
Lazenby
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Nolanator wrote:Dalton's Bond was pretty bad-ass. I do like Craig's, but a couple of his movies were absolute duds. Brosnan's have the fun 90s action movie vibe, before that disappeared. Everything's too serious these days.

I think everyone can agree that Moore was the worst. Lazenby was pants, but it was only for the one film.
I quite liked Moore, although his Bond movies were definitely more in the realms of comedy than action.
He also managed to out-sleaze Connery which took some doing.
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Favourites to be the next Bond. I'd be against a black actor or woman taking the role. I'd also prefer it not to be too high profile a person such as Hardy or Fassbender. Would love to see Richard Madden get the prized role.

They include: “2-1 James Norton, 4-1 Tom Hardy, 5-1 Richard Madden, 6-1 Jack Lowden, 8-1 Tom Hiddleston, 8-1 Sam Heughan, 8-1 Michael Fassbender.” Also: “10-1 Idris Elba, 10-1 Jamie Bell, 12-1 Aidan Turner, 12-1 Cillian Murphy, 12-1 Henry Cavill, 20-1 Henry Golding, 33-1 Tom Ellis, 100-1 Liam Gallagher.”
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I'd agree with that poll bar Craig. He'll be remembered fondly in time. Moore's films are just a bit shit and I knew that as a child. The new Bond is utterly poisoned. It will be slammed whatever they do but a women will be a bad choice. First one will do ok but after that nah. Women spies are always a bit shit in the movies for some reason. The only way to keep the Twitter mob happy would be to pick RuPaul
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I won't rest until I see a trans gender Bond. The campaigning starts here and now.
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Jim Lahey wrote:Dalton was great in Licence to Kill.
Pierce did well with Goldeneye and TND but though the rest of his were fairly meh.
I enjoyed TWINE, as well, although the first two are clearly better. It also had Christmas Jones and her whoppers. (I thought Christmas only came once a year? :lol: )

Goldeneye was the perfect Bond film and my favourite until Casino Royale (both of which had cracking female characters...).
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Moore nailed the comical, sleazy aspect. Craig is probably closer to Fleming's original. Connery could add a degree of threat with some cheekiness, so somewhere between the two. Not quite sure what Lazenby's was - almost a product of the time (late swinging sixties)
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inactionman wrote:Moore nailed the comical, sleazy aspect. Craig is probably closer to Fleming's original. Connery could add a degree of threat with some cheekiness, so somewhere between the two. Not quite sure what Lazenby's was - almost a product of the time (late swinging sixties)

Lazenby, for me, was closest to the character. He really wasn't as bad as people make out and I would argue he was pretty good, but his wife dies at the end which didn't go down well with audiences and he was scared of being type cast so it ended there for him.

Dalton was good but was screwed by the AIDS inspired notion that SEX IS BAD!!!!!! Making him socially responsible kind of restricted him somewhat. If he had been allowed to play it like his role in the Rocketeer (tweaked a little obviously so he wasn't totally bad!) he could have been the best.
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Agreed on the Lazenby film. It was daycent
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EverReady wrote:Agreed on the Lazenby film. It was daycent
Great theme tune. Main problem was that Lazenby's voice was dubbed for a large chunk of the film.
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Leinsterman wrote:
EverReady wrote:Agreed on the Lazenby film. It was daycent
Great theme tune. Main problem was that Lazenby's voice was dubbed for a large chunk of the film.
Vaguely remember that. Watched it when youngish so excused it
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James Bond wasn’t English in the books. This is a very odd premise.
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Bond is half Scot/half Swiss
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The best body of work was produced by Moore. As a collection of films they’re excellent. Where as Craig and Brosnan made some horrors.
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EverReady wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:
EverReady wrote:Agreed on the Lazenby film. It was daycent
Great theme tune. Main problem was that Lazenby's voice was dubbed for a large chunk of the film.
Vaguely remember that. Watched it when youngish so excused it

I adopted my view of the movie back in the 80s as a teenager. But then. after a while, couldn't remember if I was just being contrarian or was actually sincere so watched in it in my late 20s to check. I decided that I had been right and it was a great movie, though that was about 20 years ago and I don't remember the dubbing. In the meantime its reception has changed to the point where it is often thought of as one of the best now. The contrarian in me wants to now insist it is sh1te beyond belief...... but it isn't, its still rather good.
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Craig was the best.
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<enter globus mode>Daniel Craig's parents owned my local pub at the end of road I used to live on. A genuinely nice chap.<exit globus mode>
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Connery
Moore

Daylight

Brosnan

Daylight

Dalton

Daylight

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No love for David Niven?
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CrazyIslander wrote:Craig was the best.
Nah, he's more James Bourne than James Bond.
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Gavin Duffy wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:Craig was the best.
Nah, he's more James Bourne than James Bond.
I too would have Daniel Craig 2nd ; James Norton is favourite as the next Bond ? wtf ? - you know it has to be Cillian Murphy..............or if it was to be a pig dog then Hardy
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As Fleming wrote him, Bond was a psychopathic sexist shit, even for the '50s.

I don't think anyone has ever got close.
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camroc1 wrote:As Fleming wrote him, Bond was a psychopathic sexist shit, even for the '50s.

I don't think anyone has ever got close.
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Glaston wrote:Bond is half Scot/half Swiss
That may have come about after Fleming saw Connery in Dr No and decided to flesh out Bond’s back story in You Only Live The Twice, a year or two later - just before he went to that great underground lair in the, er, sky...
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Dalton
Connery
Moore (better films than Connery- live and let die & view to a kill were great)
Brosnan (nailed it for goldeneye, with bit of an edge)
Craig (decent showing and really good in that one with Bardem)
Lazenby very wooden as you’d expect from a male model
Niven
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While Moore was a bit shit I reckon For your eyes only was the best bond movie - from the epic ski chase, the underwater scene to the rock climbing - f**king great action.
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Frodder wrote:<enter globus mode>Daniel Craig's parents owned my local pub at the end of road I used to live on. A genuinely nice chap.<exit globus mode>
Craig is a scouser, so doubt it.
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ZappaMan wrote:No love for David Niven?
The David Niven, Woody Allen, Bob Holness debate is a whole other level, the amatuers mentioned above aren't fit to shake their martinis.
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Shrekles wrote:While Moore was a bit shit I reckon For your eyes only was the best bond movie - from the epic ski chase, the underwater scene to the rock climbing - f**king great action.
I reckon Goldeneye has the best selection of action sequences. Bungee jump down a dam, followed by jumping after a plane over a cliff with a bike, Aston Martin DB5 versus Ferrari F355 race, tank chase through a Russian city, to the epic fight scenes in the big satellite dish...and that's without talking about Xenia Onnatop! :shock:
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Jeff the Bear wrote:
Shrekles wrote:While Moore was a bit shit I reckon For your eyes only was the best bond movie - from the epic ski chase, the underwater scene to the rock climbing - f**king great action.
I reckon Goldeneye has the best selection of action sequences. Bungee jump down a dam, followed by jumping after a plane over a cliff with a bike, Aston Martin DB5 versus Ferrari F355 race, tank chase through a Russian city, to the epic fight scenes in the big satellite dish...and that's without talking about Xenia Onnatop! :shock:
TND has a fúcking stealth ship! And Michelle Yeoh.

Goldeneye is the best Brosnan one, TBF. "I AM INVINCIBLE!!!"
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I’d put Natalya from Goldeneye as my favourite bond girl.
Just an all round great show.
Plus an epic video game for its time.
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LandOTurk wrote:
Frodder wrote:<enter globus mode>Daniel Craig's parents owned my local pub at the end of road I used to live on. A genuinely nice chap.<exit globus mode>
Craig is a scouser, so doubt it.
This now becomes a Sefton call out thread
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Jim Lahey wrote:I’d put Natalya from Goldeneye as my favourite bond girl.
Just an all round great show.
Plus an epic video game for its time.
Plus Goldeneye has Boris. Don't forget Boris.
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The tank chase smashing up St Petersburg is my favourite Bond sequence of all time.
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Jim Lahey wrote:Dalton was great in Licence to Kill.
Pierce did well with Goldeneye and TND but though the rest of his were fairly meh.
TWINE is a good bond film and includes a heartless murder which is very much in the spirit of the books.

DAD is the worst bond of all time though.
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earl the beaver wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Dalton was great in Licence to Kill.
Pierce did well with Goldeneye and TND but though the rest of his were fairly meh.
TWINE is a good bond film and includes a heartless murder which is very much in the spirit of the books.

DAD is the worst bond of all time though.
Madonna. Ugh.
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bimboman wrote:The best body of work was produced by Moore. As a collection of films they’re excellent. Where as Craig and Brosnan made some horrors.
Wrong.

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