Rangers FC really are goooooone

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HMRC have rejected the CVA proposals.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/s ... -23894868/
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Three cheers to HMRC. Time to get out a few celebratory drinks
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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Three cheers to HMRC. Time to get out a few celebratory drinks


There will still be people who reckon borrowing money that can't be payed back to service expensive transfers and near or above 100% of turnover player wages is the right way to run a football club.
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Toga wrote:
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Three cheers to HMRC. Time to get out a few celebratory drinks


There will still be people who reckon borrowing money that can't be payed back to service expensive transfers and near or above 100% of turnover player wages is the right way to run a football club.
I agree, If you're not going to win anything anyway, why spend money you don't have?
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Good. Let that be a lesson to the rest of them
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Bang out of order by HMRC - Rangers are an institution they should have accepted what was on offer and allowed Rangers to enter the agreement, the sums being talked about are piddling
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Cue Alex Salmond arguing that as HMRC didn't take the same action with various English clubs that it is racist.

Are there any rugby clubs that ought to be sitting nervously as a result of that ruling?
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Bill wrote:Bang out of order by HMRC - Rangers are an institution they should have accepted what was on offer and allowed Rangers to enter the agreement, the sums being talked about are piddling
You're right Bill - institutions shouldn't have to obey the law.
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croyals wrote:
Bill wrote:Bang out of order by HMRC - Rangers are an institution they should have accepted what was on offer and allowed Rangers to enter the agreement, the sums being talked about are piddling
You're right Bill - institutions shouldn't have to obey the law.
or pay a TV licence
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Toga wrote:
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Three cheers to HMRC. Time to get out a few celebratory drinks


There will still be people who reckon borrowing money that can't be payed back to service expensive transfers and near or above 100% of turnover player wages is the right way to run a football club.
That's cuz Rangers is the people isn't it?
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I think the FAs in the the UK should make a ruling that VAT & tax is paid on time every month. This would help solve this issue and identify any future problems.
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Fenman wrote:Cue Alex Salmond arguing that as HMRC didn't take the same action with various English clubs that it is racist.

Are there any rugby clubs that ought to be sitting nervously as a result of that ruling?
only ones that don't pay their taxes.
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croyals wrote:
Bill wrote:Bang out of order by HMRC - Rangers are an institution they should have accepted what was on offer and allowed Rangers to enter the agreement, the sums being talked about are piddling
You're right Bill - institutions shouldn't have to obey the law.
nothing against the law to enter into one of these agreements - if HMRC thinks anyone did something against the law let them pursue them

as I see it the football club is one thing the owners are another let some new people take it over
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Good riddance to scum. Maybe somebody will pave over Ibrox.
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Bill wrote:Bang out of order by HMRC - Rangers are an institution they should have accepted what was on offer and allowed Rangers to enter the agreement, the sums being talked about are piddling
:lol:

Still think they will be in the top flight and Europe next year?
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Any chance of Celtic having done something silly in the past that could get them in trouble?
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Bullettyme wrote:Good riddance to scum. Maybe somebody will pave over Ibrox.
Didn't take long. :lol:
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Nolanator wrote:Any chance of Celtic having done something silly in the past that could get them in trouble?
I think there is a reasonable chance that nearly every football club in the country has something to hide
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Fenman wrote:Cue Alex Salmond arguing that as HMRC didn't take the same action with various English clubs that it is racist.

Are there any rugby clubs that ought to be sitting nervously as a result of that ruling?
You lot are obsessed with him.
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Bill wrote:
croyals wrote:
Bill wrote:Bang out of order by HMRC - Rangers are an institution they should have accepted what was on offer and allowed Rangers to enter the agreement, the sums being talked about are piddling
You're right Bill - institutions shouldn't have to obey the law.
nothing against the law to enter into one of these agreements - if HMRC thinks anyone did something against the law let them pursue them

as I see it the football club is one thing the owners are another let some new people take it over
They haven't paid their VAT since June last year - is that not against the law you dribbling moron?
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jrp wrote:You lot are obsessed with him.

:lol:


Check out your avatar.
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Toga wrote:
jrp wrote:You lot are obsessed with him.

:lol:


Check out your avatar.
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The owners of Rangers who overspent are to blame for what went wrong, not the club itself if that can be sold on and run as a going concern then it should be

I dont think people realise how the real economy works here in the UK I really dont
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Bill wrote:The owners of Rangers who overspent are to blame for what went wrong, not the club itself if that can be sold on and run as a going concern then it should be

I dont think people realise how the real economy works here in the UK I really dont
Oh FFS.
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I'm somewhat confused. I'm sure somebody told me that this sort of carry-on wouldn't come to pass and that it could all work out rather well for Rangers.

Oh well.
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DAC* wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:Good riddance to scum. Maybe somebody will pave over Ibrox.
Didn't take long. :lol:
It's just enjoyable watching these bigots thrown on the scrap heap.
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Bill wrote:The owners of Rangers who overspent are to blame for what went wrong, not the club itself if that can be sold on and run as a going concern then it should be

I dont think people realise how the real economy works here in the UK I really dont
:lol:
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Tell us bill, give us the benefit of your wisdom
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DAC* wrote:
Toga wrote:
jrp wrote:You lot are obsessed with him.

:lol:


Check out your avatar.
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:lol: :lol:
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colonel wrote:Tell us bill, give us the benefit of your wisdom
The benefit of Bill's wisdom:
But like a phoenix from the ashes she will arise again only stronger leaner and with no debt!

Greece should take notice
http://forum.planet-rugby.com/viewtopic ... ngers+bill
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henry wrote:
colonel wrote:Tell us bill, give us the benefit of your wisdom
The benefit of Bill's wisdom:
But like a phoenix from the ashes she will arise again only stronger leaner and with no debt!

Greece should take notice
http://forum.planet-rugby.com/viewtopic ... ngers+bill
:lol: :lol:
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croyals wrote:
Nolanator wrote:Any chance of Celtic having done something silly in the past that could get them in trouble?
I think there is a reasonable chance that nearly every football club in the country has something to hide
+1.

Between bungs, payments under the counter and kickbacks from transfer deals, it would be reasonable to assume that there is plenty of dodgy dealing going on out there.
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colonel wrote:Tell us bill, give us the benefit of your wisdom

the clamour to see Rangers disappear - its ridiculous

example - a factory up north that employs 1000 people is making losses, the owners over spend start to fall behind on their taxes suppliers are not being paid, the owners decide thats it - do you......


a) close the factory down throwing 1000 people out of work

b) sell it to new owners and keep the 1000 people working

those situations are played out in the real world all the time, and fortunately the decisions arnt made with some petty revenge in mind because the previous owners didnt pay tom dick or harry
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hmrc should have had a field day with rugby clubs back in the amateuir days...

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Rangers' footballing fate will be decided by their 11 fellow SPL members. There is an SPL board meeting at Hampden on Monday to discuss the league's inquiry into alleged dual contracts at Rangers.

They could hold a vote then if a newco proposal can be put together in time. Perhaps more realistic is for the 11 clubs to vote at the AGM next month.

In recent weeks clubs have expressed the dilemma they face: Rangers' presence in the SPL brings revenue through the turnstiles and from broadcast deals, but many fans have said they will not return if "sporting integrity" is not seen to be upheld.

These supporters have been in contact with their clubs to demand that they vote against Rangers playing in the SPL next season. Their preference is for Rangers to apply to join the Scottish Football League and to start again in the Third Division.
:lol:

And they're definitely out of Europe for 3 years aren't they?

Phoenix indeed.
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Bill wrote:
colonel wrote:Tell us bill, give us the benefit of your wisdom

the clamour to see Rangers disappear - its ridiculous

example - a factor up north that employs 1000 people is making losses, the owners over spend start to fall behind on their taxes suppliers are not being paid, the owners decide thats it - do you......


a) close the factory down throwing 1000 people out of work

b) sell it to new owners and keep the 1000 people working

those situations are played out in the real world all the time, and fortunately the decisions arnt made with some petty revenge in mind because the previous owners didnt pay tom dick or harry
Why does Bill think that the assets will not be sold to a Newco?

Are HRMC going into the football business?
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Bill wrote:
colonel wrote:Tell us bill, give us the benefit of your wisdom

the clamour to see Rangers disappear - its ridiculous

example - a factor up north that employs 1000 people is making losses, the owners over spend start to fall behind on their taxes suppliers are not being paid, the owners decide thats it - do you......


a) close the factory down throwing 1000 people out of work

b) sell it to new owners and keep the 1000 people working

those situations are played out in the real world all the time, and fortunately the decisions arnt made with some petty revenge in mind because the previous owners didnt pay tom dick or harry
Is Redknapp involved in this as well?! Hes a shady one
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Bill wrote:
colonel wrote:Tell us bill, give us the benefit of your wisdom

the clamour to see Rangers disappear - its ridiculous

example - a factory up north that employs 1000 people is making losses, the owners over spend start to fall behind on their taxes suppliers are not being paid, the owners decide thats it - do you......


a) close the factory down throwing 1000 people out of work

b) sell it to new owners and keep the 1000 people working

those situations are played out in the real world all the time, and fortunately the decisions arnt made with some petty revenge in mind because the previous owners didnt pay tom dick or harry
Or the f**king tax man to the tune of £70-odd f**king million. In order to overpay some feckless primadonnas.
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colonel wrote:Is Redknapp involved in this as well?! Hes a shady one

Redknapp is as dodgy as they come. There is a reason the FA and most clubs wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. Spurs want him out asap.
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henry wrote:
Bill wrote:
colonel wrote:Tell us bill, give us the benefit of your wisdom

the clamour to see Rangers disappear - its ridiculous

example - a factory up north that employs 1000 people is making losses, the owners over spend start to fall behind on their taxes suppliers are not being paid, the owners decide thats it - do you......


a) close the factory down throwing 1000 people out of work

b) sell it to new owners and keep the 1000 people working

those situations are played out in the real world all the time, and fortunately the decisions arnt made with some petty revenge in mind because the previous owners didnt pay tom dick or harry
Or the f**king tax man to the tune of £70-odd f**king million. In order to overpay some feckless primadonnas.

so what? how much of the taxpayers money was used to bail out the two Scottish basket cases HBOS and RBS?

billions not millions if I recall

in the real world some companies pay their taxes on time other companies dont - we have systems to deal with these things ffs its not as if rangers are the only company this has ever happened to

and thankfully our rules and regs concentrate on saving companies rather than destroying them and the jobs that go along with them
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