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rfurlong wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:45 pm
anonymous_joe wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:42 pm
CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:39 pm
anonymous_joe wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:37 pm
CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:34 pm https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/cou ... 75484.html

Just another naive legal professional not understanding how society works.
Oooh, I wonder what judge.

It'll turn out to be some looper down the country, I suspect.
Surprised it's not common knowledge in the legal profession after 4 years.
Procul ab urbe, would be my guess.
This judge is obviously a dipshit of the highest order and should get reprimanded for contacting the woman (after the case was over if I'm reading it right?)

However, I'm struggling to see how this has ended up with GSOC ..... what exactly is the nature of the cover up that this woman is implying?

Is this a prelude to a damages case by her?
Not sure why it's before GSOC either tbh. I'd have to check the full extent of GSOC's powers which I'm not going to do.

Nobody can discipline judges because the Judicial Council was delayed for so long in being set up.
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CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:45 pm Average award for whiplash is around 20k. You don't get an average of 20k if most awards are below 20k (technically possible but unlikely).
Average award is about €25k, so whiplash is below average automatically.

Of course awards include special damages as well as general damages. The average is generally skewed by people who suffer severe injuries that prevent them working.
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anonymous_joe wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:02 pm
CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:45 pm Average award for whiplash is around 20k. You don't get an average of 20k if most awards are below 20k (technically possible but unlikely).
Average award is about €25k, so whiplash is below average automatically.

Of course awards include special damages as well as general damages. The average is generally skewed by people who suffer severe injuries that prevent them working.
Given there are so many whiplash awards, it's unlikely the outliers are pushing awards up as much as you think. Average award was 18k+, btw, with special damages only a small percentage to hit 20k.
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CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:04 pm
anonymous_joe wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:02 pm
CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:45 pm Average award for whiplash is around 20k. You don't get an average of 20k if most awards are below 20k (technically possible but unlikely).
Average award is about €25k, so whiplash is below average automatically.

Of course awards include special damages as well as general damages. The average is generally skewed by people who suffer severe injuries that prevent them working.
Given there are so many whiplash awards, it's unlikely the outliers are pushing awards up as much as you think. Average award was 18k+, btw, with special damages only a small percentage to hit 20k.
The point being that one person who suffers a back injury that prevents them working permanently - usually older people - can massively skew things. The number of cases isn't all that large in the High Court after all.

The general case is pretty low value stuff.
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CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:34 pm https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/cou ... 75484.html

Just another naive legal professional not understanding how society works.
That’s even more insane than AJ’s posts on this thread
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rfurlong wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:40 pm
CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:38 pm
anonymous_joe wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:36 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:58 pm
anonymous_joe wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:14 pm
I doubt it tbh. No government would be foolish enough to reduce the maximum cap for catastrophic injuries because they'd end up with a very pointed judgment awarding somebody less than they would deserve and the media would have a field day.
It’s the €40,000 for a sore neck they’re after
If such awards existed I'd be typing this on a solid gold laptop.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... 8?mode=amp
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https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/new ... 77197.html

There's rehabilitation and rehabilitation! I guess these guys are being rehabilitated into politicians or something?
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I see no harm in that. It's fück all when compared to the overall budget. Anyway bar the fillet steak the rest is just food and so what if they bought fillet steak. Maybe it was some lads birthday or his ma died.
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EverReady wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:22 pm I see no harm in that. It's fück all when compared to the overall budget. Anyway bar the fillet steak the rest is just food and so what if they bought fillet steak. Maybe it was some lads birthday or his ma died.
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I see the scumbags in the Law society are up to their old trick.

Pushing hard for an exceptional circumstance clause in any awards caps. The same clause these toe rags used to drive a coach and four through mandatory sentences introduced by the people we elect to make these decisions.
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CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:25 pm
EverReady wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:22 pm I see no harm in that. It's fück all when compared to the overall budget. Anyway bar the fillet steak the rest is just food and so what if they bought fillet steak. Maybe it was some lads birthday or his ma died.
You're no fun.
A lot of the useless heroin cünts will never have had decent food so fuckit no harm as the poor bastards lead a short life
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EverReady wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:49 pm
CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:25 pm
EverReady wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:22 pm I see no harm in that. It's fück all when compared to the overall budget. Anyway bar the fillet steak the rest is just food and so what if they bought fillet steak. Maybe it was some lads birthday or his ma died.
You're no fun.
A lot of the useless heroin cünts will never have had decent food so fuckit no harm as the poor bastards lead a short life
You're not naive enough to think that food went to feed the prisoners, are you ?

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Why not. I have no doubt staff have knicked plenty of food but ordering that amount and knicking it would be unlikely. The staff that work the kitchens in prisons are unlikely to be ordering prosciutto to knick anyway
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It was supposedly for a cookery course. What better way to practice your art than serve up a 4 course dinner for the warden and his mates?
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CM11 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:00 pm It was supposedly for a cookery course. What better way to practice your art than serve up a 4 course dinner for the warden and his mates?
Nah, there'd be too much of the chefs "special" sauce added.

Was used for a POs BBQ I'd say.
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No way cammy. These dudes all know audits pick this shit up. The mad systemic BBQ type shit that used to be found is years ago. Now is just individuals who lose the run of themselves
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EverReady wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:07 pm No way cammy. These dudes all know audits pick this shit up. The mad systemic BBQ type shit that used to be found is years ago. Now is just individuals who lose the run of themselves
Report this morning said they had a sky sports subscription in one staff canteen :lol:
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I have seen that with porters in hospitals before 'because they have to work weekends' :lol:
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https://www.thejournal.ie/compensation- ... 8-Oct2020/

I lol'd at the bolded bit.
TWO YOUNG BROTHERS, who got sick after drinking out of date milk from Tesco, have been offered €10,000 in compensation.

The brothers, both minors, sued Tesco Ireland Limited, through their mother.

Judge Marie Quirke adjourned approving the settlement offer in the case at Dublin District Court until a date in November.

Paul O’Shea BL, for the pair, told Judge Quirke the milk was bought from Tesco in Ashbourne on 29 December last, three days after the expiry date on the bottle.

The boys drank it a day after it was bought and suffered vomiting and diarrhoea.

One of the boys was aged 10.

Their GP diagnosed acute gastroenteritis when he examined them a day later.

Their mother went to the supermarket to complain and was offered a fresh bottle of milk.

Her sons felt ill for two of three days but did not have long lasting effects, the court was told.

The court heard that there could have been an element of contributory negligence by the mother but Tesco had conceded full liability.

Judge Quirke said the offer seemed to be a substantial sum given the injuries. She asked counsel what role the court had if it considered it was too high.

Counsel said the court’s role was to be satisfied the offer was adequate.

It was agreed it was high but that was a decision made by the insurers, and counsel did not think that was a matter with which the court could concern itself.

Judge Quirke asked if there were superior court decisions on whether the district court has a role to investigate the matter.

She said wanted to ensure she was applying the law correctly particularly when people were trying to run businesses and insurance premiums are very high, she added.
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People will be routing around for out of date milk now. Probably start smuggling it in.
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if it was "off" enough to make kids sick, you'd have known as soon as you opened the Carton.

Something stinks. :nod:
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Seems Tesco rolled over there rather than the judge being a loon.
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danthefan wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:38 pm Seems Tesco rolled over there rather than the judge being a loon.
Most of these are settlements. This is what Tesco offered, probably not much done by the Plaintiff to get that much.
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Yeah Tesco were delighted their insurance company paid out 10 grand for a spoilt milk scam
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Duff Paddy wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:00 pm Yeah Tesco were delighted their insurance company paid out 10 grand for a spoilt milk scam
You can be sure it was based on what a typical judge would be happy to splash out.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:00 pm Yeah Tesco were delighted their insurance company paid out 10 grand for a spoilt milk scam
How dare you suggest a case where an insurer settles was fraud. Dontchaknow there's practically no fraud in Ireland because that's what the statistics say. Certainly not in this instance where a poor, unsuspecting mother trying to raise her children good had to witness them being sick for a few days with absolutely no risk to their life. The poor dears. It's only right that our judicial system be set up in a way to compensate those poor kids for an event that will impact them mentally or physically not one bit.

I mean ffs!!!
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Gavin Duffy wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:04 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:00 pm Yeah Tesco were delighted their insurance company paid out 10 grand for a spoilt milk scam
You can be sure it was based on what a typical judge would be happy to splash out.
Look we’ve drawn judge compo, you can settle for 10grand now or go into court and this lad could give them 50.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:09 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:04 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:00 pm Yeah Tesco were delighted their insurance company paid out 10 grand for a spoilt milk scam
You can be sure it was based on what a typical judge would be happy to splash out.
Look we’ve drawn judge compo, you can settle for 10grand now or go into court and this lad could give them 50.
Or a 100k, mammy might have a low cut top.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:00 pm Yeah Tesco were delighted their insurance company paid out 10 grand for a spoilt milk scam
Certainly nothing to do with judges giving out Lotto payments.
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40065662.html

Arrogant prick Lawyers.

Imagine my shock
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Mullet 2 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:31 am https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40065662.html

Arrogant prick Lawyers.

Imagine my shock
Ah, they're just being naive as usual. The cheeky scamps.
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CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:35 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:31 am https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40065662.html

Arrogant prick Lawyers.

Imagine my shock
Ah, they're just being naive as usual. The cheeky scamps.
:lol:

Most people don’t really understand what they were doing. Only legal people understand. It’s the media’s fault.
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Some dweeb harassing the lads. Dweebs have wrecked everything
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Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:38 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:35 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:31 am https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40065662.html

Arrogant prick Lawyers.

Imagine my shock
Ah, they're just being naive as usual. The cheeky scamps.
:lol:

Most people don’t really understand what they were doing. Only legal people understand. It’s the media’s fault.
Big insurance are pushing the mask agenda
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Just think of the compo lads.

The state being blatantly negligent by allowing us to work in their property without adequate PPE.

<rubs hands together, and checks whether Chapter One will be open for Christmas>
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Duff Paddy wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:00 pm Yeah Tesco were delighted their insurance company paid out 10 grand for a spoilt milk scam
Tesco might self-insure, not sure.

A lot of major entities do to avoid those sorts of issues.
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camroc1 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:33 am Just think of the compo lads.

The state being blatantly negligent by allowing us to work in their property without adequate PPE.

<rubs hands together, and checks whether Chapter One will be open for Christmas>
It's considered very poor form for barristers to sue. Has to be a last resort in any sphere.

In broader terms, most people are in fact wearing masks.
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Forget covid - spoilt milk is the biggest threat to mankind
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