
Glorious examples of the calibre of the Irish Judiciary
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The mother should be charged with endangering her child. If it was rancid enough to make the kid sick for two days, then there's no way they couldn't have known how funky it was, and she basically force-fed it to him. 

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No, no, no, Nols. You'd make a shite serial complainant.
Clearly she then sues the state for not educating her to a level where she knew milk that smelled so bad it made you gag was, in fact, not OK to use.
Her parents could probably get in on the act too for the mental anguish they felt knowing they weren't able to avoid their child making the mistake.
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In view of what the British are about to have pumping through their bodies post-Brexit and post a US trade deal, I'm pretty surprised you'd be so blasé about tainted food stuffs being on display.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:21 am Forget covid - spoilt milk is the biggest threat to mankind
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Yeah, it's an obvious point I would have thought, albeit I'd be curious about the actual scientific evidence on the point.
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Ten grand for two days of the shîtsDuff Paddy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:21 am Forget covid - spoilt milk is the biggest threat to mankind
AJ and his cronies just closed every Chinese in Ireland
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Japanese Akita’s are on the list of dogs banned from dog parks - they could easily kill a child, very powerful dog.
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I'm sure. And very negligent of the grandmother by the sounds of it. Just struggling to see where the 80k has come from. Mostly mental trauma by the looks of it.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:23 pmJapanese Akita’s are on the list of dogs banned from dog parks - they could easily kill a child, very powerful dog.
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Yeah agree but at this stage we all know they just pull a figure out of their arse. Yes AJ we know it was a settlement shut the fudge upCM11 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:25 pmI'm sure. And very negligent of the grandmother by the sounds of it. Just struggling to see where the 80k has come from. Mostly mental trauma by the looks of it.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:23 pmJapanese Akita’s are on the list of dogs banned from dog parks - they could easily kill a child, very powerful dog.
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It was a settlement, so offered by the insurers, who are fully cognisant of what judges will award kids with scars.CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:25 pmI'm sure. And very negligent of the grandmother by the sounds of it. Just struggling to see where the 80k has come from. Mostly mental trauma by the looks of it.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:23 pmJapanese Akita’s are on the list of dogs banned from dog parks - they could easily kill a child, very powerful dog.
It is way over the top though.
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What insurance would cover this though?camroc1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:29 pmIt was a settlement, so offered by the insurers, who are fully cognisant of what judges will award kids with scars.CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:25 pmI'm sure. And very negligent of the grandmother by the sounds of it. Just struggling to see where the 80k has come from. Mostly mental trauma by the looks of it.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:23 pmJapanese Akita’s are on the list of dogs banned from dog parks - they could easily kill a child, very powerful dog.
It is way over the top though.
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Grandmothers house insurance.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:31 pmWhat insurance would cover this though?camroc1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:29 pmIt was a settlement, so offered by the insurers, who are fully cognisant of what judges will award kids with scars.CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:25 pmI'm sure. And very negligent of the grandmother by the sounds of it. Just struggling to see where the 80k has come from. Mostly mental trauma by the looks of it.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:23 pmJapanese Akita’s are on the list of dogs banned from dog parks - they could easily kill a child, very powerful dog.
It is way over the top though.
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Didn’t know that house insurance would cover a dog attack
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You'd have thought there'd be exclusions for listed dogs.
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HighKingLeinster wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:37 pmYou actually must have insurance for dogs on the list iirc. Just costs more

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Eh, am I a complete misogynist or does this seem a little OTT?
Guy was out of line, but the response seems fairly extreme in terms of the distress apparently caused to the woman in question.
Punish him, sure, but 3.5k for a ladladslads thing gone a bit silly and out of hand?
Eh, am I a complete misogynist or does this seem a little OTT?
Guy was out of line, but the response seems fairly extreme in terms of the distress apparently caused to the woman in question.
Punish him, sure, but 3.5k for a ladladslads thing gone a bit silly and out of hand?
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Award isn't just for the photos but also how the company handled the complaint. On the low side compared to other stuff we've seen.
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Sick leaveShe stated that she found the stress of the entire situation too much and took sick leave on stress grounds on 22 January last and resigned from the company on the 4 February.

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Except the judge went out of his way to note it was "very good."camroc1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:29 pmIt was a settlement, so offered by the insurers, who are fully cognisant of what judges will award kids with scars.CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:25 pmI'm sure. And very negligent of the grandmother by the sounds of it. Just struggling to see where the 80k has come from. Mostly mental trauma by the looks of it.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:23 pmJapanese Akita’s are on the list of dogs banned from dog parks - they could easily kill a child, very powerful dog.
It is way over the top though.
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Yeah yeah and we know these guys are great at judging awards 

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Yeah?Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:31 pm Yeah yeah and we know these guys are great at judging awards![]()
Having done plenty of PI defence and plaintiff work over the years, both as a devil and myself, you have a very charitable view of the competence of insurers/claims adjusters. Some of them are brilliant but the average is a different beast entirely.
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Um, eh, ah, where has Duff praised the insurers?
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Well Cammy was claiming they only offer large amounts of money because of the judges.
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We've been around this roundabout so many times I'm dizzyanonymous_joe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:41 pm Well Cammy was claiming they only offer large amounts of money because of the judges.
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'Good' means 'That's what I'd have done' in judgespeak.
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Good might be, very good means more.
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Has a judge ever said that a settlement offer is too high?
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I think one did, once. Her colleagues must have told her to stfu shortly after.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:10 pmHas a judge ever said that a settlement offer is too high?
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How could they do that?Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:10 pmHas a judge ever said that a settlement offer is too high?
The purpose of an infant ruling (and the same procedure exists for anybody of "unsound mind") is to avoid a scenario where claims are settled at an undervalue. By definition the Defendant - as they're all insured or can afford to self-insure - is rich, provided with legal advice and is offering the minimum they think it'll settle for.
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Has to be something more to this? Why is it the driver's responsibility to make sure everyone gets off in time? Not driving off with people clinging to the tram, yes, but are they really responsible for a parent not making sure they can get off in time after sending their child out first?
Has to be something more to this? Why is it the driver's responsibility to make sure everyone gets off in time? Not driving off with people clinging to the tram, yes, but are they really responsible for a parent not making sure they can get off in time after sending their child out first?
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They have cameras at all stations and also covering the doors on trains.CM11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:13 pm https://m.independent.ie/news/40000-for ... 99349.html
Has to be something more to this? Why is it the driver's responsibility to make sure everyone gets off in time? Not driving off with people clinging to the tram, yes, but are they really responsible for a parent not making sure they can get off in time after sending their child out first?
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I'm sure they do. But are they also meant to be paying attention to whose kid is whose? I suppose if the kid was the only passenger to get off?camroc1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:40 pmThey have cameras at all stations and also covering the doors on trains.CM11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:13 pm https://m.independent.ie/news/40000-for ... 99349.html
Has to be something more to this? Why is it the driver's responsibility to make sure everyone gets off in time? Not driving off with people clinging to the tram, yes, but are they really responsible for a parent not making sure they can get off in time after sending their child out first?
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I suspect the CCTV showed the door slamming in the Mothers face, and her in a distraught state.CM11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:44 pmI'm sure they do. But are they also meant to be paying attention to whose kid is whose? I suppose if the kid was the only passenger to get off?camroc1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:40 pmThey have cameras at all stations and also covering the doors on trains.CM11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:13 pm https://m.independent.ie/news/40000-for ... 99349.html
Has to be something more to this? Why is it the driver's responsibility to make sure everyone gets off in time? Not driving off with people clinging to the tram, yes, but are they really responsible for a parent not making sure they can get off in time after sending their child out first?
However, I'd have though 10k would be taking the piss never mind 40k.
There'll be kids being taught the required timing by their mothers on foot of that.
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Fairly easy to engineer without the kids help!camroc1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:48 pmI suspect the CCTV showed the door slamming in the Mothers face, and her in a distraught state.CM11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:44 pmI'm sure they do. But are they also meant to be paying attention to whose kid is whose? I suppose if the kid was the only passenger to get off?camroc1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:40 pmThey have cameras at all stations and also covering the doors on trains.CM11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:13 pm https://m.independent.ie/news/40000-for ... 99349.html
Has to be something more to this? Why is it the driver's responsibility to make sure everyone gets off in time? Not driving off with people clinging to the tram, yes, but are they really responsible for a parent not making sure they can get off in time after sending their child out first?
However, I'd have though 10k would be taking the piss never mind 40k.
There'll be kids being taught the required timing by their mothers on foot of that.
Really should be some contributory negligence with this one. That age, you make sure you're ready to get off. Personal responsibility, eh?
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Will she still have a free gaff after that pot of cash?camroc1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:40 pmThey have cameras at all stations and also covering the doors on trains.CM11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:13 pm https://m.independent.ie/news/40000-for ... 99349.html
Has to be something more to this? Why is it the driver's responsibility to make sure everyone gets off in time? Not driving off with people clinging to the tram, yes, but are they really responsible for a parent not making sure they can get off in time after sending their child out first?
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40 grand for being a bad parent.
Not bad.
Not bad.
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40 grandCM11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:13 pm https://m.independent.ie/news/40000-for ... 99349.html
Has to be something more to this? Why is it the driver's responsibility to make sure everyone gets off in time? Not driving off with people clinging to the tram, yes, but are they really responsible for a parent not making sure they can get off in time after sending their child out first?



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Is the gravy train for scam artists and the legal profession coming to an end. One can only hope
Is the gravy train for scam artists and the legal profession coming to an end. One can only hope
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Hard to know what will happen. Any new rules would need to be robust enough to stand up to challenge.