The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thread

Diego · Post by **Diego** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:06 pm

Who'll fill in there for Spurs next season DK?

DragonKhan · Post by **DragonKhan** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:11 pm

Diego wrote:Who'll fill in there for Spurs next season DK?

Trippier who Walker actually lost his place to at the end of last season. Trippier is a much better footballer. Walker is a better "athlete"

Rumham · Post by **Rumham** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:01 pm

DragonKhan wrote:
Diego wrote:Who'll fill in there for Spurs next season DK?
Trippier who Walker actually lost his place to at the end of last season. Trippier is a much better footballer. Walker is a better "athlete"

Much better is a stretch but you don't turn down £50 million for a RB. City have lost the plot and are desperate. Levy is some man to fleece people in the transfer market.

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:01 pm

Giroud

Sefton · Post by **Sefton** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:11 pm

City still not learnt their lesson after buying Sterling last season.

Post by **SASP** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:06 am

Trippier is a very good RB. More well rounded than Walker but Walker is so fast and strong it gets him out of trouble. He may suit Pep's system almost as well as Alves did. Alves has much better end product though.

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:24 am

Sefton wrote:City still not learnt their lesson after buying Sterling last season.

What lesson? Don't just by speed?

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:25 am

SASP wrote:Trippier is a very good RB. More well rounded than Walker but Walker is so fast and strong it gets him out of trouble. He may suit Pep's system almost as well as Alves did. Alves has much better end product though.

Alves was also a great passer, with genuine vision. I think I read he became the top assister in Europe or something recently? Meh, something like that.

themaddog · Post by **themaddog** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:27 am

SASP wrote:Trippier is a very good RB. More well rounded than Walker but Walker is so fast and strong it gets him out of trouble. He may suit Pep's system almost as well as Alves did. Alves has much better end product though.

Are they good enough to play for the Harps?

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:58 am

DragonKhan wrote:
Diego wrote:Who'll fill in there for Spurs next season DK?
Trippier who Walker actually lost his place to at the end of last season. Trippier is a much better footballer. Walker is a better "athlete"

Let's be fair here, Pochettino picked trippier because walker was already making noises about moving and complaining openly about not being allowed to play every game. It wasn't based on performance. E

DragonKhan · Post by **DragonKhan** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:05 pm

earl the beaver wrote:
DragonKhan wrote:
Diego wrote:Who'll fill in there for Spurs next season DK?
Trippier who Walker actually lost his place to at the end of last season. Trippier is a much better footballer. Walker is a better "athlete"
Let's be fair here, Pochettino picked trippier because walker was already making noises about moving and complaining openly about not being allowed to play every game. It wasn't based on performance. E

Trippier got in when Walker was injured and won man of the match in two games and pretty much kept his place after that bar one or two games

Slater582 · Post by **Slater582** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:51 pm

Anonymous. wrote:England win the U20 world championships. We hadn't even won match in this thing for the last 20 years before this effort. What a weekend

Beat Portugal today to become UEFA U19 winners.

C69 · Post by **C69** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:18 pm

Slater582 wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:England win the U20 world championships. We hadn't even won match in this thing for the last 20 years before this effort. What a weekend
Beat Portugal today to become UEFA U19 winners.

Imagine what they will be like when more money filters down and a decent infra structure and coaching system is fully in place.
Well done Saes, very impressive.

Post by **SASP** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:52 pm

themaddog wrote:
SASP wrote:Trippier is a very good RB. More well rounded than Walker but Walker is so fast and strong it gets him out of trouble. He may suit Pep's system almost as well as Alves did. Alves has much better end product though.
Are they good enough to play for the Harps?

Let's not get too crazy.

C69 · Post by **C69** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:40 pm

Matic and Costa look to be on the way out at Chelski.
Massive loss to have both leaving the club but if they are unhappy they should leave.
No way will they be able to get a 20 goal a year player to replace Costa for next season.

henry · Post by **henry** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:47 pm

Costa and Terry offski?

Chelsea's culture of cuntishness under threat?

Diego · Post by **Diego** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:36 pm

c69 wrote:Matic and Costa look to be on the way out at Chelski.
Massive loss to have both leaving the club but if they are unhappy they should leave.
No way will they be able to get a 20 goal a year player to replace Costa for next season.

Morata and Bakayoko heavily linked as replacements.

Post by **SASP** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:43 pm

Bakayoko is already singed. 40m

C69 · Post by **C69** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:43 pm

Diego wrote:
c69 wrote:Matic and Costa look to be on the way out at Chelski.
Massive loss to have both leaving the club but if they are unhappy they should leave.
No way will they be able to get a 20 goal a year player to replace Costa for next season.
Morata and Bakayoko heavily linked as replacements.

Bakayoko has signed

Clive Simms · Post by **Clive Simms** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:14 pm

Salah is a horrific signing. Absolute headless chicken. No footballing brain whatsoever just a dribbler with no final ball

Rumham · Post by **Rumham** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:19 pm

Clive Simms wrote:Salah is a horrific signing. Absolute headless chicken. No footballing brain whatsoever just a dribbler with no final ball

Bit like yourself then Clive, a dribbling mess.

jezzer · Post by **jezzer** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:36 pm

henry wrote:Costa and Terry offski?

Chelsea's culture of cuntishness under threat?

Will take a lot more than that.

Leinsterman · Post by **Leinsterman** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:47 pm

Edit: wrong thread

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:29 pm

Clive Simms wrote:Salah is a horrific signing. Absolute headless chicken. No footballing brain whatsoever just a dribbler with no final ball

Needed a replacement for Sterling.

Seriously, how many of these exist in football? It's endemic.

Post by **SASP** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:27 am

Andrew Robertson looks to be heading to Liverpool.

Price reported was earlier in the summer was £8 Million.

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:50 am

SASP wrote:Andrew Robertson looks to be heading to Liverpool.

Price reported was earlier in the summer was £8 Million.

Who?

Post by **SASP** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:19 am

Hawk97 wrote:
SASP wrote:Andrew Robertson looks to be heading to Liverpool.

Price reported was earlier in the summer was £8 Million.
Who?

Hull left back. (23)

Scotland international

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:20 am

Well done Klopp, that's the Moreno situation taken care of...

Clive Simms · Post by **Clive Simms** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:21 am

Andy Robertson wouldn't be a good signing for Liverpool. He is half the athlete of Alberto Moreno and with neither Mane or Salah going to want to track back having an athlete is imperative

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:22 am

Klopp doesn't seem to value defence. Jettisoned their best defender, resigned Lovren, bought poorly at CB....

Clive Simms · Post by **Clive Simms** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:26 am

Liverpool are screwed next year. Fighting in 4 comps whilst relying on the Geigen press as their MO is going to be carnage. The players will be burnt out by January

Post by **SASP** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:35 am

Klopp gave Moreno his chance and all the pace in the world is fudge all use at FB if you cant defend.
Moreno will probably be fine if he goes back to Spain.

Klopp probably knows he's not getting a world class LB anytime soon so is going for the more solid option.
Also both Salah and Mane are very good at tracking back.

Liverpool's biggest problem is set pieces. The usually win the first ball but dont get it clear and have conceded the majority of goals from set pieces from the second ball. Something like 2/3rds of all the goals they conceded came against the bottom 8.

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:46 am

Clive Simms wrote:Liverpool are screwed next year. Fighting in 4 comps whilst relying on the Geigen press as their MO is going to be carnage. The players will be burnt out by January

He'll have to adjust for the games he doesn't place much stock in. On the other hand, players will have had another preseason doing the Gegenpress and fitness work, so will be that much more adept.

Post by **SASP** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:09 am

So PSG are supposedly going to buy Neymar and possibly Alexis Sanchez for 200 odd million.

Most of it on Neymar. I'd be tempted if I was running Barca. The team is built around Messi anyway and they could use the cash to rebuild.

Not advocating buying a whole new team but 2/3 top class players in some key positions.
Then again new coach might invigorate some non performing players.

Diego · Post by **Diego** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:41 am

Arsenal would be goosed if Sanchez left.

Clive Simms · Post by **Clive Simms** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:08 am

Don't Barca still have a transfer ban?

Post by **SASP** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:14 am

Nope.

Atletico Madrid do.

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:14 am

SASP wrote:So PSG are supposedly going to buy Neymar and possibly Alexis Sanchez for 200 odd million.

Most of it on Neymar. I'd be tempted if I was running Barca. The team is built around Messi anyway and they could use the cash to rebuild.

Not advocating buying a whole new team but 2/3 top class players in some key positions.
Then again new coach might invigorate some non performing players.

PSG are going beserk.

danthefan · Post by **danthefan** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:38 am

Diego wrote:Arsenal would be goosed if Sanchez left.

In the current market they'd probably get 100m for him. If Wenger would actually spend it on someone decent they could be alright.

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:41 am

Arsenal need to sort out the Carzola issue. Their record with him in there is a totally different story.