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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:45 am 
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Sun Tzu wrote:
Hopefully next season England will field Foden and Winks. They'd be much better than the pathetic midfield we had just now.



We'll see. Foden barely plays elite football yet, let's not assume he'll be the saviour of England's international side yet.


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Hopefully next season England will field Foden and Winks. They'd be much better than the pathetic midfield we had just now.



We'll see. Foden barely plays elite football yet, let's not assume he'll be the saviour of England's international side yet.


He's still better than Delph.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:34 am 
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He was offside, it was tight but VAR got it right.


For me that was misuse of VAR because it was so tight. The decision was not CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY wrong.

The technology is also not yet good enough to allow very close offsides to be determined to a forensic level (where the player is at the exact moment the ball leaves the passers foot) - I think there needs to be a hawkeye-esque grey area defined within the technology where on-field call stands to reflect the uncertainty.

Or better still can it completely for offsides and leave it solely for foul play


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:39 am 
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Nah, VAR is there to get decisions right, it did in both cases last night and it is here to stay.

If anything I thought it should have been used more (for the Chilwell foul on Bergwuin)


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:47 am 
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Nah, VAR is there to get decisions right, it did in both cases last night and it is here to stay.

If anything I thought it should have been used more (for the Chilwell foul on Bergwuin)


I'm not against the right decisions being made but for me the rules around usage of VAR are too whimsical at the moment. Rugby went through this fairly recently and has rowed right back on how much the TMO is used so you no longer get the "Check-Check" interventions multiple times a game.

Its a new 'feature' so will obviously require heavy usage to develop best practice, but whilst they say it should only be used to correct Clear and Obvious mistakes then they are reversing far too many decisions IMO.

lack of consistency is the issue I am against I suppose


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:43 pm 
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That's a good result for Ireland.

1-1 away to Denmark. They missed a lot of chances, our lads are limited but already we're seeing the difference in attitude from the last regime.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:50 pm 
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Total football. ⚽️


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Though they're one nil (the only really important stat) down the other stats suggest Wales are doing well against Croatia.


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This is some serious shite on show from NI


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:33 pm 
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This is some serious shite on show from NI

:smug:

Standardly nearly lost despite being on top for most of the game. Really need some more end product.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:11 pm 
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So how serious is this international competition then? First season I understand? Do the players and fans care? Football has a lot of competitions, not all of them created equally.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:32 am 
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What the nations league?

It's better than friendlies but its main draw is another avenue for qualification to the euros, especially for those below tier 1.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:35 am 
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What the nations league?

It's better than friendlies but its main draw is another avenue for qualification to the euros, especially for those below tier 1.


:thumbup:


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Forca Portugal


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:09 am 
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England actually pretty decent at penalties now?

I wonder how often Southgate still thinks of '96?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:55 pm 
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2 England fan arrests in Portugal and the media has a meltdown

71 arrests at the last Glastonbury and it's barely mentioned

370 arrests at last years Notting Hill Carnival with 1 stabbing and 30 police officers injured


A good point, well made. Those who attend Glastonbury and the Notting Hill Carnival are scum.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:02 pm 
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Sun Tzu wrote:
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2 England fan arrests in Portugal and the media has a meltdown

71 arrests at the last Glastonbury and it's barely mentioned

370 arrests at last years Notting Hill Carnival with 1 stabbing and 30 police officers injured


A good point, well made. Those who attend Glastonbury and the Notting Hill Carnival are scum.


You can't use whataboutery to defend the English fans who deliberately travel to provoke locals on the continent which is not a small minority but a very large minority.

They have proven to be cowards as they haven't done it where they would have got their arses handed to them like South Africa or Russia.

Unless there is the chance you've been whooshing me.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:24 pm 
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Sun Tzu wrote:
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Football Away Days
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2 England fan arrests in Portugal and the media has a meltdown

71 arrests at the last Glastonbury and it's barely mentioned

370 arrests at last years Notting Hill Carnival with 1 stabbing and 30 police officers injured


A good point, well made. Those who attend Glastonbury and the Notting Hill Carnival are scum.


You can't use whataboutery to defend the English fans who deliberately travel to provoke locals on the continent which is not a small minority but a very large minority.

They have proven to be cowards as they haven't done it where they would have got their arses handed to them like South Africa or Russia.

Unless there is the chance you've been whooshing me.


This bit is true, and the footy commentators always like to call it small.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:34 pm 
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Sun Tzu wrote:
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Football Away Days
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2 England fan arrests in Portugal and the media has a meltdown

71 arrests at the last Glastonbury and it's barely mentioned

370 arrests at last years Notting Hill Carnival with 1 stabbing and 30 police officers injured


A good point, well made. Those who attend Glastonbury and the Notting Hill Carnival are scum.


I hate the Carnival, the atmosphere in real vs the media presentation of it is entirely polar opposites. But the tweet makes good points about perspective and show certain things are acceptable.


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eldanielfire wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
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Football Away Days
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2 England fan arrests in Portugal and the media has a meltdown

71 arrests at the last Glastonbury and it's barely mentioned

370 arrests at last years Notting Hill Carnival with 1 stabbing and 30 police officers injured


A good point, well made. Those who attend Glastonbury and the Notting Hill Carnival are scum.


I hate the Carnival, the atmosphere in real vs the media presentation of it is entirely polar opposites. But the tweet makes good points about perspective and show certain things are acceptable.


Those who attend the football are likely to be working class, so the narrative has been set immediately.


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eldanielfire wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
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Football Away Days
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2 England fan arrests in Portugal and the media has a meltdown

71 arrests at the last Glastonbury and it's barely mentioned

370 arrests at last years Notting Hill Carnival with 1 stabbing and 30 police officers injured


A good point, well made. Those who attend Glastonbury and the Notting Hill Carnival are scum.


I hate the Carnival, the atmosphere in real vs the media presentation of it is entirely polar opposites. But the tweet makes good points about perspective and show certain things are acceptable.

Everyone knows the carnival gets violent, there's been documentaries about how the police deal with it and it's not suggested it's acceptable.

Not sure how 71 people being so off their tits at Glasto is the same as people being arrested for hooliganism abroad mind.


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earl the beaver wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
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Football Away Days
@footyawayday
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2 England fan arrests in Portugal and the media has a meltdown

71 arrests at the last Glastonbury and it's barely mentioned

370 arrests at last years Notting Hill Carnival with 1 stabbing and 30 police officers injured


A good point, well made. Those who attend Glastonbury and the Notting Hill Carnival are scum.


I hate the Carnival, the atmosphere in real vs the media presentation of it is entirely polar opposites. But the tweet makes good points about perspective and show certain things are acceptable.



Not sure how 71 people being so off their tits at Glasto is the same as people being arrested for hooliganism abroad mind.


Drug use is abhorrent.


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Sun Tzu wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
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Football Away Days
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2 England fan arrests in Portugal and the media has a meltdown

71 arrests at the last Glastonbury and it's barely mentioned

370 arrests at last years Notting Hill Carnival with 1 stabbing and 30 police officers injured


A good point, well made. Those who attend Glastonbury and the Notting Hill Carnival are scum.


I hate the Carnival, the atmosphere in real vs the media presentation of it is entirely polar opposites. But the tweet makes good points about perspective and show certain things are acceptable.



Not sure how 71 people being so off their tits at Glasto is the same as people being arrested for hooliganism abroad mind.


Drug use is abhorrent.

Ach it's grand craic.


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Depends on where it's from


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earl the beaver wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
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Football Away Days
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2 England fan arrests in Portugal and the media has a meltdown

71 arrests at the last Glastonbury and it's barely mentioned

370 arrests at last years Notting Hill Carnival with 1 stabbing and 30 police officers injured


A good point, well made. Those who attend Glastonbury and the Notting Hill Carnival are scum.


I hate the Carnival, the atmosphere in real vs the media presentation of it is entirely polar opposites. But the tweet makes good points about perspective and show certain things are acceptable.

Everyone knows the carnival gets violent, there's been documentaries about how the police deal with it and it's not suggested it's acceptable.

Not sure how 71 people being so off their tits at Glasto is the same as people being arrested for hooliganism abroad mind.


I'm pretty sure far more than 71 people are drugged off their face at Glasto. But the ones arrested are almost certainly those whose behaviour has gone way to far.


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Ramos is such a beautiful man.


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Ireland have such an absence of quality. 31 shots, 76% possession and 14 corners against Gibraltar and nobody can put the flipping thing in the back of the net. Well we did score twice but it's still a very pedestrian team.


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We are shit. No other words.


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I thought the billiard cannon off the defender trick shot to put the goalie the wrong way was world class. It even would have gone wide if it hadn’t come off.


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Anybody know the history behind why Israel are allowed to compete in the Euros?


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Anybody know the history behind why Israel are allowed to compete in the Euros?

Arab countries in the ME refused to play them.


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Anybody know the history behind why Israel are allowed to compete in the Euros?


They are in Asia, but would have to play against Arab countries. Too much opportunity for Israelis to be killed. Possibly they even would forbid themselves to play against each other. I am guessing Israel asked UEFA/FIFA to make an exception and common sense prevailed. Just my guess by the way.


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Anybody know the history behind why Israel are allowed to compete in the Euros?


They are in Asia, but would have to play against Arab countries. Too much opportunity for Israelis to be killed. Possibly they even would forbid themselves to play against each other. I am guessing Israel asked UEFA/FIFA to make an exception and common sense prevailed. Just my guess by the way.


I had a quick google.

https://news.sky.com/story/why-does-isr ... e-10359083

“A number of Muslim states refused to play against the new national side, which culminated in the bizarre spectacle of the 1958 World Cup qualifying stage for Asia and Africa - won by Israel without playing a single game.”

:lol:

“Six years later, Israel hosted and won the 1964 AFC Asian Cup, which remains the country's sole international football trophy.

However, the achievement was arguably undermined by the pre-tournament withdrawal of 11 of the 16 intended participating countries.

Israel triumphed with just three wins, against India, South Korea and Hong Kong.”

:lol:

“A motion initiated by Kuwait during the 1974 Asian Games, where the oil-rich state and North Korea both refused to play against Israel, saw the country expelled from the AFC.”

“Israeli clubs began taking part in European club competitions in 1991 and its football association became full UEFA members in 1994 - having famously beaten France in a 1993 World Cup qualifier.”


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However, the achievement was arguably undermined by the pre-tournament withdrawal of 11 of the 16 intended participating countries.


That's a cracking use of 'arguably'! :lol:


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What's happening Nordies??

Following the game on BBC as flatmate is watching Rick Stein on food channel. :roll:


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And a goal!!!!!!!!

Paddy McNair


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What's happening Nordies??

Following the game on BBC as flatmate is watching Rick Stein on food channel. :roll:

Just gone 1 up
Paddy McNair


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That will be a hell of a win.


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Cracking win that.
Laff did his best to get sent off whenever he got on. He needs sent to the glue factory at this stage, he'll cost us against the Germans and the Dutch.


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4 wins. Top of the group. Some going in fairness.


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