The OFFICIAL English and European Football (soccer) thread

C69 · Post by **C69** » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:18 pm

Wendigo7 wrote:Plus the premier league gets to witness Bournemouth vs Leeds in all its glory.

Gavin Duffy · Post by **Gavin Duffy** » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:23 pm

Bimboc69 wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:Plus the premier league gets to witness Bournemouth vs Leeds in all its glory.

eldanielfire · Post by **eldanielfire** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:33 pm

I'm still stunned that Arsenal beat Liverpool and Man City inside of a few days and with good defensive performances.

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:14 pm

Watford sacking Pearson is just crazy. You'd think they would be desperate to make sure they kept him. When he took over in December they had won 1 out of 15 games and were bottom of the premier league. They have won 7 out of 20 since he took over. Even if they get relegated he would have been the perfect man to get them back up.

eldanielfire · Post by **eldanielfire** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:28 pm

Anonymous. wrote:Watford sacking Pearson is just crazy. You'd think they would be desperate to make sure they kept him. When he took over in December they had won 1 out of 15 games and were bottom of the premier league. They have won 7 out of 20 since he took over. Even if they get relegated he would have been the perfect man to get them back up.

Agreed.

The even weirder/stupider thing is they are 3 points clear of relegation right now. And one team has Arsenal and one team has to win by 4 goals to overhaul with their final game, away to Everton. Why on earth would you do it with 2 games to go?

eldanielfire · Post by **eldanielfire** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:40 pm

These Leeds fans certainly waited long enough to take the 2nd picture

https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1284855714054275078

C69 · Post by **C69** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:54 pm

eldanielfire wrote:These Leeds fans certainly waited long enough to take the 2nd picture

https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1284855714054275078

LandOTurk · Post by **LandOTurk** » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:14 am

Last day of the Championship should be a wheeze.

Auto promotion - any 1 of 3 teams (West Brom, Brentford or Fulham) to join Leeds and go up

Playoff - any 2 of 3 teams (Forest, Cardiff or Swansea) to fill 5th and 6th spot; imagine if Swans pipped the Bluebirds (1-0 loss for Cardiff, and 1-0 win for Swansea would do it)

Relegation - nobody yet officially relegated but Hull 99.9% certain due to GD, and Huddersfield 99.9% certain due to stay up for the same reason; but as it stands 3 from 7 to face the drop (Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Birmingham, Charlton, Luton, Barnsley, Hull) - confess to not looking or calculating if any of those teams are playing each other.

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:23 pm

Anonymous. wrote:Watford sacking Pearson is just crazy. You'd think they would be desperate to make sure they kept him. When he took over in December they had won 1 out of 15 games and were bottom of the premier league. They have won 7 out of 20 since he took over. Even if they get relegated he would have been the perfect man to get them back up.

Well sacking Pearson proved to be a great move. Watford lost 0-4 to Man City and will Villa currently leading 1-0 against Arsenal Watford are in the relegation zone by one goal on goal difference.

If the stats don't have the Watford players working a lot harder in that game than in other games since lockdown you really wonder what was the point.

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:17 am

LandOTurk wrote:Last day of the Championship should be a wheeze.

Auto promotion - any 1 of 3 teams (West Brom, Brentford or Fulham) to join Leeds and go up

Playoff - any 2 of 3 teams (Forest, Cardiff or Swansea) to fill 5th and 6th spot; imagine if Swans pipped the Bluebirds (1-0 loss for Cardiff, and 1-0 win for Swansea would do it)

Relegation - nobody yet officially relegated but Hull 99.9% certain due to GD, and Huddersfield 99.9% certain due to stay up for the same reason; but as it stands 3 from 7 to face the drop (Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Birmingham, Charlton, Luton, Barnsley, Hull) - confess to not looking or calculating if any of those teams are playing each other.

Bear in mind relegation won't be confirmed until August due to points deductions to Wigan, Derby, and Sheffield Wednesday and the subsequent appeals.

LandOTurk · Post by **LandOTurk** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:51 am

earl the beaver wrote:
LandOTurk wrote:Last day of the Championship should be a wheeze.

Auto promotion - any 1 of 3 teams (West Brom, Brentford or Fulham) to join Leeds and go up

Playoff - any 2 of 3 teams (Forest, Cardiff or Swansea) to fill 5th and 6th spot; imagine if Swans pipped the Bluebirds (1-0 loss for Cardiff, and 1-0 win for Swansea would do it)

Relegation - nobody yet officially relegated but Hull 99.9% certain due to GD, and Huddersfield 99.9% certain due to stay up for the same reason; but as it stands 3 from 7 to face the drop (Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Birmingham, Charlton, Luton, Barnsley, Hull) - confess to not looking or calculating if any of those teams are playing each other.
Bear in mind relegation won't be confirmed until August due to points deductions to Wigan, Derby, and Sheffield Wednesday and the subsequent appeals.

Oh really. I just follow the Bluebirds and keep in touch with another fan in DC and then again Chicago. We text each other after the result. I was completely unaware. Just adds to the drama. Teams just have to do their jobs.

Sefton · Post by **Sefton** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:15 pm

Bobby waits until the last premiership game of the season to get his goal.

LandOTurk · Post by **LandOTurk** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:28 pm

LandOTurk wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
LandOTurk wrote:Last day of the Championship should be a wheeze.

Auto promotion - any 1 of 3 teams (West Brom, Brentford or Fulham) to join Leeds and go up

Playoff - any 2 of 3 teams (Forest, Cardiff or Swansea) to fill 5th and 6th spot; imagine if Swans pipped the Bluebirds (1-0 loss for Cardiff, and 1-0 win for Swansea would do it)

Relegation - nobody yet officially relegated but Hull 99.9% certain due to GD, and Huddersfield 99.9% certain due to stay up for the same reason; but as it stands 3 from 7 to face the drop (Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Birmingham, Charlton, Luton, Barnsley, Hull) - confess to not looking or calculating if any of those teams are playing each other.
Bear in mind relegation won't be confirmed until August due to points deductions to Wigan, Derby, and Sheffield Wednesday and the subsequent appeals.
Oh really. I just follow the Bluebirds and keep in touch with another fan in DC and then again Chicago. We text each other after the result. I was completely unaware. Just adds to the drama. Teams just have to do their jobs.

Take a bow Nottingham Forest. What a way to play yourself out of the playoffs. And congrats to Swansea for coming back from the dead. Swansea-Cardiff playoff final anyone?

iarmhiman · Post by **iarmhiman** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:57 pm

If Chelsea sorted out their centre halves and goalie they will challenge for the title next year. They're going to have a very strong attack

New guy · Post by **New guy** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:26 pm

I see Leeds decided to have an open top bus celebration with their fans.

eldanielfire · Post by **eldanielfire** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:19 am

New guy wrote:I see Leeds decided to have an open top bus celebration with their fans.

What's wrong with that? They just won the league.

eldanielfire · Post by **eldanielfire** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:56 pm

Weird:

https://twitter.com/BCFC_News/status/12 ... 4036483072

Birmingham retiring the number 22 because of some kid whose scored 4 goals in 50 games is off to Germany. Obafemi Martins scoring the winning goal in a cup final for this club winning a trophy and it didn't get retired then

LandOTurk · Post by **LandOTurk** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:05 pm

eldanielfire wrote:
New guy wrote:I see Leeds decided to have an open top bus celebration with their fans.
What's wrong with that? They just won the league.

I think it's the covid issue.

eldanielfire · Post by **eldanielfire** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:04 pm

LandOTurk wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
New guy wrote:I see Leeds decided to have an open top bus celebration with their fans.
What's wrong with that? They just won the league.
I think it's the covid issue.

I thought so. The post just sounded more like sneering(maybe because so much occurs in football talk), but I wasn't sure.

iarmhiman · Post by **iarmhiman** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:27 pm

Don't like Leeds. Had a bad experience with their fans in 2006 before the Watford v Leeds playofff final.

Day after Munster v Biarritz

New guy · Post by **New guy** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:19 pm

LandOTurk wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
New guy wrote:I see Leeds decided to have an open top bus celebration with their fans.
What's wrong with that? They just won the league.
I think it's the covid issue.

Yeah I was staggered to see thousands(?) of fans out celebrating with the team on the streets. If I was a Liverpool fan I think I'd be miffed considering their fans were given a dispersal order.

New guy · Post by **New guy** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:19 pm

eldanielfire wrote:
LandOTurk wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
New guy wrote:I see Leeds decided to have an open top bus celebration with their fans.
What's wrong with that? They just won the league.
I think it's the covid issue.
I thought so. The post just sounded more like sneering(maybe because so much occurs in football talk), but I wasn't sure.

Fůck Leeds

New guy · Post by **New guy** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:22 pm

iarmhiman wrote:Don't like Leeds. Had a bad experience with their fans in 2006 before the Watford v Leeds playofff final.

Day after Munster v Biarritz

Were you wearing a United shirt?

iarmhiman · Post by **iarmhiman** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:32 pm

New guy wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:Don't like Leeds. Had a bad experience with their fans in 2006 before the Watford v Leeds playofff final.

Day after Munster v Biarritz
Were you wearing a United shirt?

Ireland rugby shirt and yes I got IRA this IRA that.

We're all guilty by association once the English put on a football shirt. Well that's when they get the confidence to shout it

C69 · Post by **C69** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:04 pm

Cardiff v Swansea in the play off would be brutal

C69 · Post by **C69** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:06 pm

LandOTurk wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
New guy wrote:I see Leeds decided to have an open top bus celebration with their fans.
What's wrong with that? They just won the league.
I think it's the covid issue.

Clearly just like the twats around Anfield last night.

Sefton · Post by **Sefton** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:03 pm

Bimboc69 wrote:
LandOTurk wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
New guy wrote:I see Leeds decided to have an open top bus celebration with their fans.
What's wrong with that? They just won the league.
I think it's the covid issue.
Clearly just like the twats around Anfield last night.

The Chelsea defence?

C69 · Post by **C69** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:07 pm

Chelsea had a defence?

Sefton · Post by **Sefton** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:11 pm

Bimboc69 wrote:Chelsea had a defence?

The Russian Foreign Ministry will provide one.

C69 · Post by **C69** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:21 pm

Sefton wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:Chelsea had a defence?
The Russian Foreign Ministry will provide one.

Bimbo is banned

Sefton · Post by **Sefton** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:23 pm

Bimboc69 wrote:
Sefton wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:Chelsea had a defence?
The Russian Foreign Ministry will provide one.
Bimbo is banned

He’s just a small time paid for bot, not in the same league as the laundering at Chealski.

Frodder · Post by **Frodder** » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:25 pm

I support Forest, I'm still crying

LandOTurk · Post by **LandOTurk** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:27 am

Frodder wrote:I support Forest, I'm still crying

The 4th goal was a beauty though - chwarae teg!

mabunch78 · Post by **mabunch78** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:47 am

iarmhiman wrote:If Chelsea sorted out their centre halves and goalie they will challenge for the title next year. They're going to have a very strong attack

Sefton wrote: He’s just a small time paid for bot, not in the same league as the laundering at Chealski.

Was going to ask how the f#ck they continue to spank the money they do under FFP rules - sweet f#cking commercial deals unattainable by others, clearly...

New guy · Post by **New guy** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:50 am

They almost earn as much from sales as they spend. Their net spend is actually very low.

For some reason most top clubs seem to offload players for dirt cheap while Chelsea get more than they're probably worth. Maybe their financial backing let's them play hard ball more than other clubs which are run as a business.

C69 · Post by **C69** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:53 am

New guy wrote:They almost earn as much from sales as they spend. Their net spend is actually very low.

For some reason most top clubs seem to offload players for dirt cheap while Chelsea get more than they're probably worth. Maybe their financial backing let's them play hard ball more than other clubs which are run as a business.

Chelsea have a massive amount of players out on loan, they earn loads by selling players who have never even played for the club.

New guy · Post by **New guy** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:55 am

Bimboc69 wrote:
New guy wrote:They almost earn as much from sales as they spend. Their net spend is actually very low.

For some reason most top clubs seem to offload players for dirt cheap while Chelsea get more than they're probably worth. Maybe their financial backing let's them play hard ball more than other clubs which are run as a business.
Chelsea have a massive amount of players out on loan, they earn loads by selling players who have never even played for the club.

Yeah i was just looking through the list of sales and saw they got 30 million for Lukaku. I'd forgotten he was ever a Chelsea player.

Jim Lahey · Post by **Jim Lahey** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:59 am

eldanielfire wrote:Weird:

https://twitter.com/BCFC_News/status/12 ... 4036483072

Birmingham retiring the number 22 because of some kid whose scored 4 goals in 50 games is off to Germany. Obafemi Martins scoring the winning goal in a cup final for this club winning a trophy and it didn't get retired then

Alice in the Birmingham City FC marketing department must’ve read Guerilla Marketing over lockdown and decided to think outside the box on that decision.

Tbf who the f**k wants to wear number 22 anyway? Might be more of an issue if had have been 1-11.

New guy · Post by **New guy** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:15 am

Jim Lahey wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:Weird:

https://twitter.com/BCFC_News/status/12 ... 4036483072

Birmingham retiring the number 22 because of some kid whose scored 4 goals in 50 games is off to Germany. Obafemi Martins scoring the winning goal in a cup final for this club winning a trophy and it didn't get retired then
Alice in the Birmingham City FC marketing department must’ve read Guerilla Marketing over lockdown and decided to think outside the box on that decision.

Tbf who the f**k wants to wear number 22 anyway? Might be more of an issue if had have been 1-11.

That is hilarious

Retiring numbers is a yank thing anyway but doing it for a kid who only ever played a handful of games. Bizarre.

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:12 am

New guy wrote:
LandOTurk wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
New guy wrote:I see Leeds decided to have an open top bus celebration with their fans.
What's wrong with that? They just won the league.
I think it's the covid issue.
Yeah I was staggered to see thousands(?) of fans out celebrating with the team on the streets. If I was a Liverpool fan I think I'd be miffed considering their fans were given a dispersal order.

There was a dispersal order round Elland Road. The council, the police advisory group and the club agreed that putting the players outside for 10 minutes and then going inside might encourage the crowd to go home.