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iarmhiman wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:56 pm
Sefton wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:20 pm Well that’s a nice result and tip of the table for Christmas Day again.
Between you and Spurs for the league
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earl the beaver wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:42 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:01 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:45 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:43 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:39 pm How the fudge did United lose to Palace and Arsenal x(
You'll see when we lose to Leeds tomorrow.

United play with no control. They're either excellent or putrid. There is no in between
I'm fully expecting a 3 all draw tomorrow.
Sometimes being wrong is great.
Despite the big winning margin if Bamford had his finishing boots on or De Gea hadnt made a few great saves Leeds could have drawn or won that game tbf.
With the chances, but not by the balance of play.
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What do most Utd fans think about Daniel James?

Out by season end?
Will be given the chance to improve?
Has the makings of a first team starter/bench if he got his confidence back?
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If it doesn't work out for Solskjaer there may be no way back for ManUre
Louis van Gaal slams Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s tactics at Manchester United and reveals sack theory

Louis van Gaal has slammed Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s tactics and explained why Manchester United will be reluctant to sack the manager. Solskjaer, who replaced Jose Mourinho as Red Devils boss in December 2018, has endured a turbulent spell in the Old Trafford hot-seat. Manchester United are currently seventh in the Premier League but could climb as high as second if they win their games in hand. They are already out of the Champions League, however, having lost their final two group games to slip into the Europa League.

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1 Liverpool played 14 points 31
2 Liecester played 14 points 27
3 Man Unt played 13 points 26
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The media are getting very excited about this United run.
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Sefton wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:50 am The media are getting very excited about this United run.
Are they? - most are too busy creaming their panties over Liverpool's 7-0 win
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P in VG wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:55 am
Sefton wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:50 am The media are getting very excited about this United run.
Are they? - most are too busy creaming their panties over Liverpool's 7-0 win
There were lots of top quality goals although to be fair it wasn't a real battering. Liverpool only had 8 shots on target and in total they had 1 more shot than Arsenal who lost 2-1 at Everton.
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P in VG wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:55 am
Sefton wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:50 am The media are getting very excited about this United run.
Are they? - most are too busy creaming their panties over Liverpool's 7-0 win
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55388045
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... -solskjaer
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Sefton wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:08 am
P in VG wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:55 am
Sefton wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:50 am The media are getting very excited about this United run.
Are they? - most are too busy creaming their panties over Liverpool's 7-0 win
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55388045
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... -solskjaer
TBF that could have been anything 26 attempts on goal with 14 on target. 5 points off the lead with a game in hand. Rather obvious at this stage they have to be seen as title contenders.
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earl the beaver wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:42 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:01 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:45 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:43 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:39 pm How the fudge did United lose to Palace and Arsenal x(
You'll see when we lose to Leeds tomorrow.

United play with no control. They're either excellent or putrid. There is no in between
I'm fully expecting a 3 all draw tomorrow.
Sometimes being wrong is great.
Despite the big winning margin if Bamford had his finishing boots on or De Gea hadnt made a few great saves Leeds could have drawn or won that game tbf.
Yeah Leeds were unlucky not to win 7-6 :lol:
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New Guy 2 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:37 am
earl the beaver wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:42 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:01 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:45 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:43 pm

You'll see when we lose to Leeds tomorrow.

United play with no control. They're either excellent or putrid. There is no in between
I'm fully expecting a 3 all draw tomorrow.
Sometimes being wrong is great.
Despite the big winning margin if Bamford had his finishing boots on or De Gea hadnt made a few great saves Leeds could have drawn or won that game tbf.
Yeah Leeds were unlucky not to win 7-6 :lol:
Just pointing out that they scored a bundle of goals against a newly promoted team who have conceded the most goals in the league and at the same time could have conceded a bundle of goals themselves.

And it was a Leeds team with hardly any fit defenders.
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New Guy 2 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:37 am
earl the beaver wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:42 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:01 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:45 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:43 pm

You'll see when we lose to Leeds tomorrow.

United play with no control. They're either excellent or putrid. There is no in between
I'm fully expecting a 3 all draw tomorrow.
Sometimes being wrong is great.
Despite the big winning margin if Bamford had his finishing boots on or De Gea hadnt made a few great saves Leeds could have drawn or won that game tbf.
Yeah Leeds were unlucky not to win 7-6 :lol:
Leeds could have won the game but ETB really is full of shit. They had 17 shots which is a lot in a premier league game but ManUre had 26 which is very rarely seen. Leeds had 3 shots on target and ManUre had 14 on target. The ETB shit shovelling is in overdrive
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Some of the Leeds defending was absolutely comical yesterday.
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Another piece of history for Messi last night.

Passed Pele's record of most official goals for one club with 644, a record that had stood for 55 years.
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earl the beaver wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:20 am Another piece of history for Messi last night.

Passed Pele's record of most official goals for one club with 644, a record that had stood for 55 years.
Messi genuinely is incredible.
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Events over the last 24 make Poch nailed-on for PSG. ManUre's never-ending dance ends with business as usual. Still, what's the problem? Ole's at the wheel...
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mabunch78 wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:37 pm Events over the last 24 make Poch nailed-on for PSG. ManUre's never-ending dance ends with business as usual. Still, what's the problem? Ole's at the wheel...

PSG have won 7 of last 8 titles, and are in 3rd 1 pt behind Lyon and Lille. Is it going to be a tight one this year or the usual walkover? If the latter, why would a top manager go there (apart from multi euros)?
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Complete lack of ambition by Poch
It’s worse than going to manage in Scotland
At least there, there are now two teams that can win the league
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Winnie wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:13 pm Complete lack of ambition by Poch
It’s worse than going to manage in Scotland
At least there, there are now two teams that can win the league
There's only 3 in Spain.

1 maybe 2 in Germany.

Unsure in Italy, but recently just 1.

England by far the most competitive.
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LandOTurk wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:09 am
Winnie wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:13 pm Complete lack of ambition by Poch
It’s worse than going to manage in Scotland
At least there, there are now two teams that can win the league
There's only 3 in Spain.

1 maybe 2 in Germany.

Unsure in Italy, but recently just 1.

England by far the most competitive.
This is nonsense.
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Winnie wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:13 pm Complete lack of ambition by Poch
It’s worse than going to manage in Scotland
At least there, there are now two teams that can win the league
PSG is about champions league
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:30 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:20 am Another piece of history for Messi last night.

Passed Pele's record of most official goals for one club with 644, a record that had stood for 55 years.
Messi genuinely is incredible.
The perfect footballer. Like watching a Playstation game
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Willie Falloon wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:35 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:30 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:20 am Another piece of history for Messi last night.

Passed Pele's record of most official goals for one club with 644, a record that had stood for 55 years.
Messi genuinely is incredible.
The perfect footballer. Like watching a Playstation game
Just sad that unlike Ronaldo and Pele he couldn't turn it on for his country
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Willie Falloon wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:35 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:30 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:20 am Another piece of history for Messi last night.

Passed Pele's record of most official goals for one club with 644, a record that had stood for 55 years.
Messi genuinely is incredible.
The perfect footballer. Like watching a Playstation game
.... for Barcelona.
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LandOTurk wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:19 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:35 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:30 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:20 am Another piece of history for Messi last night.

Passed Pele's record of most official goals for one club with 644, a record that had stood for 55 years.
Messi genuinely is incredible.
The perfect footballer. Like watching a Playstation game
.... for Barcelona.
Took a bang average Argentina team to a world cup final, setting up 2 clear cut chances that Higuain bottled that should have led to them winning, and 2 Copa America finals, where again Higuain bottled numerous chances that should have led to them winning.

The idea he has been poor at international level is laughable.

Higuain finishes 2 one on ones and he's a world cup and copa America winning captain, instead Higuain misses 5 clear cut goal scoring opportunities across 3 finals. Unfortunately he can't pass to himself.
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earl the beaver wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:57 pm
LandOTurk wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:19 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:35 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:30 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:20 am Another piece of history for Messi last night.

Passed Pele's record of most official goals for one club with 644, a record that had stood for 55 years.
Messi genuinely is incredible.
The perfect footballer. Like watching a Playstation game
.... for Barcelona.
Took a bang average Argentina team to a world cup final, setting up 2 clear cut chances that Higuain bottled that should have led to them winning, and 2 Copa America finals, where again Higuain bottled numerous chances that should have led to them winning.

The idea he has been poor at international level is laughable.

Higuain finishes 2 one on ones and he's a world cup and copa America winning captain, instead Higuain misses 5 clear cut goal scoring opportunities across 3 finals. Unfortunately he can't pass to himself.
The idea he has been more than average for his country is laughable. They were used to winning before he came along. He doesnt even score many goals.

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earl the beaver wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:57 pm
LandOTurk wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:19 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:35 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:30 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:20 am Another piece of history for Messi last night.

Passed Pele's record of most official goals for one club with 644, a record that had stood for 55 years.
Messi genuinely is incredible.
The perfect footballer. Like watching a Playstation game
.... for Barcelona.
Took a bang average Argentina team to a world cup final, setting up 2 clear cut chances that Higuain bottled that should have led to them winning, and 2 Copa America finals, where again Higuain bottled numerous chances that should have led to them winning.

The idea he has been poor at international level is laughable.

Higuain finishes 2 one on ones and he's a world cup and copa America winning captain, instead Higuain misses 5 clear cut goal scoring opportunities across 3 finals. Unfortunately he can't pass to himself.
First up, Argentina weren't bang average. That would be a Welsh team ranked 25th in the world. They had Messi, Zabaleta, Mascerano, Aguerro, Higuain and Maxi Rodriguez.

However, my point wasn't about Argentina but how we would compare in other teams in different eras. Don't get me wrong, the guy is one of the top 4 players ever, maybe #1, but I just don't think he is as versatile as Pele, Maradona or Ronaldo. Something Ferguson mentioned when being interviewed about who is the best between Messi and Ronaldo (for which he never gave a definitive answer because they are so close). But in cold weather, rain etc. Messi would not excel as much. In the lax laws of yesteryear he would not excel as much. The other 3 would whatever the conditions/playing style/refereeing. All I am saying is that is undoubted brilliance is given the perfect vessel to perform in at Barcelona with the style of football officiating of the past 15 years.
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LandOTurk wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:30 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:57 pm
LandOTurk wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:19 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:35 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:30 pm

Messi genuinely is incredible.
The perfect footballer. Like watching a Playstation game
.... for Barcelona.
Took a bang average Argentina team to a world cup final, setting up 2 clear cut chances that Higuain bottled that should have led to them winning, and 2 Copa America finals, where again Higuain bottled numerous chances that should have led to them winning.

The idea he has been poor at international level is laughable.

Higuain finishes 2 one on ones and he's a world cup and copa America winning captain, instead Higuain misses 5 clear cut goal scoring opportunities across 3 finals. Unfortunately he can't pass to himself.
First up, Argentina weren't bang average. That would be a Welsh team ranked 25th in the world. They had Messi, Zabaleta, Mascerano, Aguerro, Higuain and Maxi Rodriguez.

However, my point wasn't about Argentina but how we would compare in other teams in different eras. Don't get me wrong, the guy is one of the top 4 players ever, maybe #1, but I just don't think he is as versatile as Pele, Maradona or Ronaldo. Something Ferguson mentioned when being interviewed about who is the best between Messi and Ronaldo (for which he never gave a definitive answer because they are so close). But in cold weather, rain etc. Messi would not excel as much. In the lax laws of yesteryear he would not excel as much. The other 3 would whatever the conditions/playing style/refereeing. All I am saying is that is undoubted brilliance is given the perfect vessel to perform in at Barcelona with the style of football officiating of the past 15 years.
Nonsense again. Ronaldo maybe more physcial but he's turned into a tap in merchant ffs. Messi started as a left wing who put crosses into the box, switched to be an orthodox right wing to play in the same team as Ronaldinho and then became an inside forward cutting in from the wing to score 50 times a season before converting to first central striker and then being a false 9. Messi has now turned into an attacking midfielder who assists 25 goals a season while also scoring 35, he regularly takes the ball off the centre backs now in his own half or near the halfway line.
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mabunch78 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:27 am He's gone and said it...

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55428796
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earl the beaver wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:59 pm
LandOTurk wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:30 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:57 pm
LandOTurk wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:19 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:35 pm

The perfect footballer. Like watching a Playstation game
.... for Barcelona.
Took a bang average Argentina team to a world cup final, setting up 2 clear cut chances that Higuain bottled that should have led to them winning, and 2 Copa America finals, where again Higuain bottled numerous chances that should have led to them winning.

The idea he has been poor at international level is laughable.

Higuain finishes 2 one on ones and he's a world cup and copa America winning captain, instead Higuain misses 5 clear cut goal scoring opportunities across 3 finals. Unfortunately he can't pass to himself.
First up, Argentina weren't bang average. That would be a Welsh team ranked 25th in the world. They had Messi, Zabaleta, Mascerano, Aguerro, Higuain and Maxi Rodriguez.

However, my point wasn't about Argentina but how we would compare in other teams in different eras. Don't get me wrong, the guy is one of the top 4 players ever, maybe #1, but I just don't think he is as versatile as Pele, Maradona or Ronaldo. Something Ferguson mentioned when being interviewed about who is the best between Messi and Ronaldo (for which he never gave a definitive answer because they are so close). But in cold weather, rain etc. Messi would not excel as much. In the lax laws of yesteryear he would not excel as much. The other 3 would whatever the conditions/playing style/refereeing. All I am saying is that is undoubted brilliance is given the perfect vessel to perform in at Barcelona with the style of football officiating of the past 15 years.
Nonsense again. Ronaldo maybe more physcial but he's turned into a tap in merchant ffs. Messi started as a left wing who put crosses into the box, switched to be an orthodox right wing to play in the same team as Ronaldinho and then became an inside forward cutting in from the wing to score 50 times a season before converting to first central striker and then being a false 9. Messi has now turned into an attacking midfielder who assists 25 goals a season while also scoring 35, he regularly takes the ball off the centre backs now in his own half or near the halfway line.
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Chealski being bitch slapped by a bottom 6 side.
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Sefton wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:08 pm Chealski being bitch slapped by a bottom 6 side.
Bottom 7 side now :lol: :uhoh:
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:54 pm
mabunch78 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:27 am He's gone and said it...

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55428796
Slaughtering Chelsea
Result of the round so far. Fair play to the Spanish android...
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LandOTurk wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:48 pm Remember Tony Yeboah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exv4n1hLRS0
I loved him. He pretty much dominated Match of the Day's Goal of the month competition for a season or two.
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That is a massive goal by Rashford.

Hang on we might be in the title race here.
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Yes
Wolves absolutely stank the place up tonight
Serves them right losing in the last minute to that
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Beat Villa. Beat Liverpool. Go top.

Easy.
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That's a big win albeit lucky

United really struggle against defensive teams.

Matic too slow with the ball and Pogba only started playing well mid way through 2nd half.

Shaw made a difference. He brought some pace.

Wolves are a pain in the hole of a side.
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