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iarmhiman wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:02 pm That's a big win albeit lucky

United really struggle against defensive teams.

Matic too slow with the ball and Pogba only started playing well mid way through 2nd half.

Shaw made a difference. He brought some pace.

Wolves are a pain in the hole of a side.
Need a right back
AWB is nowhere near good enough
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Winnie wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:05 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:02 pm That's a big win albeit lucky

United really struggle against defensive teams.

Matic too slow with the ball and Pogba only started playing well mid way through 2nd half.

Shaw made a difference. He brought some pace.

Wolves are a pain in the hole of a side.
Need a right back
AWB is nowhere near good enough
He hasn't the pace to beat his man. The amount of times moves die in that right corner because AWB can't beat his man, can't cross or hasn't the pace to make a run
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iarmhiman wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:11 pm
Winnie wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:05 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:02 pm That's a big win albeit lucky

United really struggle against defensive teams.

Matic too slow with the ball and Pogba only started playing well mid way through 2nd half.

Shaw made a difference. He brought some pace.

Wolves are a pain in the hole of a side.
Need a right back
AWB is nowhere near good enough
He hasn't the pace to beat his man. The amount of times moves die in that right corner because AWB can't beat his man, can't cross or hasn't the pace to make a run
He’s awful.
Those sliding tackles he wins look great until you realise he has to slide in because he is so far out of position
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Winnie coming out from under his rock, United fans must be getting confident.
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Sefton wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:44 pm Winnie coming out from under his rock, United fans must be getting confident.
Hey there Sefton old chap
Been speaking mostly about the rugby
Usually leave the majority of my football discussions to other places
Happy new year to you and yours :thumbup:
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Sefton wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:44 pm Winnie coming out from under his rock, United fans must be getting confident.
Still can't control games.

3rd will be a good finish for our lads
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Another vital win for Arsenal tonight. Just heard also that our new wunderkid Emile Smith-Rowe's dad, Les, went to school with Ian Wright:

https://twitter.com/BBCMOTD/status/1344060563362611214
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Who would you consider to be the top 20 teams in the whole English League that are the genuine top 20 since WWII. Include heritage, fan base, level of success etc?

For me in no order;

Arsenal
Chelsea
Spurs
West Ham
Liverpool
Everton
Man Utd
Man City
Aston Villa
Leeds
Nottingham Forest
WBA
Southampton
Newcastle
Sunderland
Wolves
Stoke

Then you are talking teams like Burnley, Bolton, Leicester, Sheffield Weds, Derby, Ipswich, Norwich, Watford, Palace ....???
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United need to win their game in hand.

Liverpool won't be having any more of these slip ups.
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LandOTurk wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:55 pm Who would you consider to be the top 20 teams in the whole English League that are the genuine top 20 since WWII. Include heritage, fan base, level of success etc?

For me in no order;

Arsenal
Chelsea
Spurs
West Ham
Liverpool
Everton
Man Utd
Man City
Aston Villa
Leeds
Nottingham Forest
WBA
Southampton
Newcastle
Sunderland
Wolves
Stoke

Then you are talking teams like Burnley, Bolton, Leicester, Sheffield Weds, Derby, Ipswich, Norwich, Watford, Palace ....???
Leicester are surly above WBA, Stoke, Sunderland and Newcastle. They won the league. Also surely Sheffield Utd above Sheffield Wednesday? Also Ipswich over Norwich too as they have won the league and won the UFEA CUp when jit was a huge deal. Burnley have also won the league post war. Blackburn too. Derby too. Twice. Portsmouth too. Twice. They also won the F.A. Cup.
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:40 pm United need to win their game in hand.

Liverpool won't be having any more of these slip ups.
I am pleasantly surprised with the position Man Utd find themselves in. I would never have thought we would be in a position to draw level with the top team if we win our game in hand come new year. They have been given a rare opportunity to be in the title race as no team has been consistent so far this season. If somehow they can go on a run in the 2nd half of the season like they did last year, they will stand a chance although I just do not think the team has what it takes to take the fight right to the end of the season as yet.

They definitely need to invest in a good speedy CB in a similar vein to Van Dijk or Ferdinand to partner with either Lindelöf or McGuire. Those 2 are to similar to be partnered together and bring the worst out of each other in my opinion. They both look better when they play with another CB. Because they are both quite slow, Utd's defensive line sits to deep to try and avoid getting caught on the counter, which in turn affects their attacking intent. I'm not sure our attack trusts the defense so are held back a lot by those insecurities in defense. So a fast CB for me is a much more urgent requirement than a RB. Like someone else on another forum said, Man Utd have the midfield and attack to challenge for the title but they have the defense to put them into a relegation fight. At least it looks like De Gea is getting back to his former self.
The game against Wolves was always going to be a tight one, so I was very happy we managed to snatch a win. If looking at past encounters with Wolves, Man Utd rarely had blow out scores against them and loads of draws. They have always been a team Utd struggled against.
If we can win the game against Villa, it will set up the new year very nicely.
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While I expect a Liverpool or Man City to win the title, my bolter selection would be Everton. It would be good to see them pip everyone (if its not Liverpool).
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LandOTurk wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:13 pm While I expect a Liverpool or Man City to win the title, my bolter selection would be Everton. It would be good to see them pip everyone (if its not Liverpool).
Just goes to show you what a world class coach can do
I don’t think they have the squad to see it through particularly if there is another Covid break
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How's the sack Ole campaign coming along utd fans?
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Winnie wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:18 pm
LandOTurk wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:13 pm While I expect a Liverpool or Man City to win the title, my bolter selection would be Everton. It would be good to see them pip everyone (if its not Liverpool).
Just goes to show you what a world class coach can do
I don’t think they have the squad to see it through particularly if there is another Covid break
Hence the term bolter
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Relieved.

Villa were very good
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Liverpool will still win this 2-1
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iarmhiman wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:12 pm Liverpool will still win this 2-1
They'd need to get on with it then
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Willie Falloon wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:19 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:12 pm Liverpool will still win this 2-1
They'd need to get on with it then
Hopefully not
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Slip up for the pool
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Wahay :D

I have no doubt United will now drop points to Burnley.
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As expected, the three senior centre backs all injured, I’m surprised we are in the top half of the league.
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New Guy 2 wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:56 pm Wahay :D

I have no doubt United will now drop points to Burnley.
Yep we never beat them
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Sefton wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:56 pm As expected, the three senior centre backs all injured, I’m surprised we are in the top half of the league.
:lol: :lol:
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It's sort of a valid point though. That and Jota being injured. The front three are just slightly off at the moment and Jota provided goals.
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Merry's annus horribilis continues apace...
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Haller out the door at West Ham for a £25M loss.

Excellent work.
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mabunch78 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:18 pm Merry's annus horribilis continues apace...
They were so poor in the second half.

That said the team picked and then subs he made would suggest that Bielsa didn't care that much from the outset. Staying in the premier league is clearly the target and they should do that but the squad is thin so less fixtures the better I guess.

The Crawley 3rd goal scorer saying that they hope they get a big team in the next round was a great WUM.
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FFS. Man U vs Liverpool in the FA cup
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Have to feel sorry for the wee teams
Cheltenham got Man City, non covid times they would have the ground packed to the rafters, what a pay day that would have been for the club
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Winnie wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:38 pm Have to feel sorry for the wee teams
Cheltenham got Man City, non covid times they would have the ground packed to the rafters, what a pay day that would have been for the club
I was thinking the same when I saw our draw.
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Sefton wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:39 pm
Winnie wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:38 pm Have to feel sorry for the wee teams
Cheltenham got Man City, non covid times they would have the ground packed to the rafters, what a pay day that would have been for the club
I was thinking the same when I saw our draw.
:lol: :lol:
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Bloody Hell West Ham are up against it at Stockport the ball is stopping in puddles :lol:

They won't be used to playing on a shit pitch like this mud puddle
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C69 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:11 pm Bloody Hell West Ham are up against it at Stockport the ball is stopping in puddles :lol:

They won't be used to playing on a shit pitch like this mud puddle
Shame for Stockport. Thanks for the memory though....

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merry! wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:23 pm
FA Cup: Crawley Town deliver 'game of their lives' to shock Leeds United
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Missed the fantasy football deadline again.

fudge sake
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iarmhiman wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:36 pm Missed the fantasy football deadline again.

fudge sake
Just about remembered, thank f*ck.
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Gary Neville on review lying by the looks of it by repeatedly saying Shaw missed the ball
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:53 pm Gary Neville on review lying by the looks of it by repeatedly saying Shaw missed the ball
The who in the what now?
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