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eldanielfire wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:36 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:13 pm

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:02 pm

El Homerino wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:44 pm


Let's also not forget that Arteta learnt from the best. Arsenal in many ways were a mirror image of how City play.

He had a great education for sure. My one issue is Pep is a brilliant manager, but with brilliant players. Arteta will need to be a coach who great brilliant performance out of good players as Arsenal will always be up against the Man City and Chelsea money machines.

I guess the Barcelona team Pep started with wasn't full of great players at the time... But he made a lot of them great players... Since then he has had great players but has turned them into great teams.

You wonder if some coaches are better at working with potential, rather than stars. eg Klopp. All his team's he has had to start from scratch. If he had a team of stars like City or Real Madrid at their peak .. I wonder if it would suit his style... as he likes to mould players.

Pep does indeed improve players, but really highly rated ones. But the comparison with Kloop is exactly what I was getting at.

However when Pep started at Barcelona, they already had a great team, and where champions league winners 2 years before and made the semi just before he took over.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:48 pm

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:36 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:13 pm

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:02 pm

El Homerino wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:44 pm


Let's also not forget that Arteta learnt from the best. Arsenal in many ways were a mirror image of how City play.

He had a great education for sure. My one issue is Pep is a brilliant manager, but with brilliant players. Arteta will need to be a coach who great brilliant performance out of good players as Arsenal will always be up against the Man City and Chelsea money machines.

I guess the Barcelona team Pep started with wasn't full of great players at the time... But he made a lot of them great players... Since then he has had great players but has turned them into great teams.

You wonder if some coaches are better at working with potential, rather than stars. eg Klopp. All his team's he has had to start from scratch. If he had a team of stars like City or Real Madrid at their peak .. I wonder if it would suit his style... as he likes to mould players.

Pep does indeed improve players, but really highly rated ones. But the comparison with Kloop is exactly what I was getting at.

However when Pep started at Barcelona, they already had a great team, and where champions league winners 2 years before and made the semi just before he took over.

MY bad. For some reason I thought Pep took over before the success. So he hasn't really ever had a poor team like Arteta had? But then not many coaches are good at making a bunch of star individuals into a great team .. and very few can do both.

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:17 pm Thomas Tuchel new contract in the morning

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:59 pm Need Liverpool to win this to keep the title slightly going. Although I hate Liverpool football club.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:10 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:59 pm Need Liverpool to win this to keep the title slightly going. Although I hate Liverpool football club.

A draw suits neither. Both lose... Still need City to suffer horrendous injuries or bad luck with Covid for either Liverpool or Chelsea to have a chance now.

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:14 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:10 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:59 pm Need Liverpool to win this to keep the title slightly going. Although I hate Liverpool football club.

A draw suits neither. Both lose... Still need City to suffer horrendous injuries or bad luck with Covid for either Liverpool or Chelsea to have a chance now.

City had 4 home grown youngsters on the bench against Arsenal. They are stretched

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:22 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:14 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:10 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:59 pm Need Liverpool to win this to keep the title slightly going. Although I hate Liverpool football club.

A draw suits neither. Both lose... Still need City to suffer horrendous injuries or bad luck with Covid for either Liverpool or Chelsea to have a chance now.

City had 4 home grown youngsters on the bench against Arsenal. They are stretched

We need those four youngsters starting to have a chance...

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:05 am Spurs doing a Spurs yet again

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:36 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:22 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:14 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:10 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:59 pm Need Liverpool to win this to keep the title slightly going. Although I hate Liverpool football club.

A draw suits neither. Both lose... Still need City to suffer horrendous injuries or bad luck with Covid for either Liverpool or Chelsea to have a chance now.

City had 4 home grown youngsters on the bench against Arsenal. They are stretched

We need those four youngsters starting to have a chance...

They will get plenty of game time in the dead rubbers at the end of the season

shereblue wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:01 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:36 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:22 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:14 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:10 pm

A draw suits neither. Both lose... Still need City to suffer horrendous injuries or bad luck with Covid for either Liverpool or Chelsea to have a chance now.

City had 4 home grown youngsters on the bench against Arsenal. They are stretched

We need those four youngsters starting to have a chance...

They will get plenty of game time in the dead rubbers at the end of the season

A few City youngsters may be getting game time in the FAC at Swindon tomorrow night as Covid catches up at the Etihad.

Fair play to City for its commitment (as of today, at least) to putting out whatever team they can.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:05 pm

shereblue wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:01 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:36 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:22 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:14 pm

City had 4 home grown youngsters on the bench against Arsenal. They are stretched

We need those four youngsters starting to have a chance...

They will get plenty of game time in the dead rubbers at the end of the season

A few City youngsters may be getting game time in the FAC at Swindon tomorrow night as Covid catches up at the Etihad.

Fair play to City for its commitment (as of today, at least) to putting out whatever team they can.

Though they have been pretty Covid-light up until now...

shereblue wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:19 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:05 pm

shereblue wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:01 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:36 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:22 pm

We need those four youngsters starting to have a chance...

They will get plenty of game time in the dead rubbers at the end of the season

A few City youngsters may be getting game time in the FAC at Swindon tomorrow night as Covid catches up at the Etihad.

Fair play to City for its commitment (as of today, at least) to putting out whatever team they can.

Though they have been pretty Covid-light up until now...

Pep, 17 backroomers and 7 [un-named] "first teamers" have tested positive.

Swindon's odds to progress down from 66-1 to 9-1. If City have to field their under 10s, the odds might fall to evens.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:22 pm As I said.. up till now, City have been relatively Covid-free. It was bound to catch up with them, like it has at most clubs....

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:33 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:22 pm As I said.. up till now, City have been relatively Covid-free. It was bound to catch up with them, like it has at most clubs....

Another easy win for City against Swindon. This Palmer guy from their academy really does look like a cross between Hoddle and Bergkamp. Yes they have all the money but after Foden and now Palmer It looks like the vast amount of money and effort they put into their academy is going to pay big dividends

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:30 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:33 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:22 pm As I said.. up till now, City have been relatively Covid-free. It was bound to catch up with them, like it has at most clubs....

Another easy win for City against Swindon. This Palmer guy from their academy really does look like a cross between Hoddle and Bergkamp. Yes they have all the money but after Foden and now Palmer It looks like the vast amount of money and effort they put into their academy is going to pay big dividends

Chelsea have been doing it for a while too. Liverpool are improving with Trent Alexander, Curtis Jones and Harry Elliott coming through. But City have incredible facilities... and will probably be more self funding for years.

shereblue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:49 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:30 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:33 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:22 pm As I said.. up till now, City have been relatively Covid-free. It was bound to catch up with them, like it has at most clubs....

Another easy win for City against Swindon. This Palmer guy from their academy really does look like a cross between Hoddle and Bergkamp. Yes they have all the money but after Foden and now Palmer It looks like the vast amount of money and effort they put into their academy is going to pay big dividends

Chelsea have been doing it for a while too. Liverpool are improving with Trent Alexander, Curtis Jones and Harry Elliott coming through. But City have incredible facilities... and will probably be more self funding for years.

Alongside Rodri, Cole Palmer (not Carlton Palmer, ITV!) was my City MOM. He could be an England prospect. Albeit his skills were only tested against a defence that is shakey in L2.

STFC MOM was loanee Kaine Kessler-Hayden an attacking wingback out of the Villa Academy. Unsurprisingly, he had to defend more than usual last night. Given the relative quality of his opponents (Jesus and co.), I'd rate KKH's performance right up there, alongside Palmer's. Hopefully Gerrard wasn't able to watch him.

Unfortunately, trying to emulate City's style with (relatively) Poundshop players was never going to ruffle the superstar visitors, who never left 2nd gear. City to Chelsea next week but no rest for our thin squad as we travel to Mansfield Town this Tuesday night.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:54 pm

shereblue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:49 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:30 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:33 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:22 pm As I said.. up till now, City have been relatively Covid-free. It was bound to catch up with them, like it has at most clubs....

Another easy win for City against Swindon. This Palmer guy from their academy really does look like a cross between Hoddle and Bergkamp. Yes they have all the money but after Foden and now Palmer It looks like the vast amount of money and effort they put into their academy is going to pay big dividends

Chelsea have been doing it for a while too. Liverpool are improving with Trent Alexander, Curtis Jones and Harry Elliott coming through. But City have incredible facilities... and will probably be more self funding for years.

Alongside Rodri, Cole Palmer (not Carlton Palmer, ITV!) was my City MOM. He could be an England prospect. Albeit his skills were only tested against a defence that is shakey in L2.

STFC MOM was loanee Kaine Kessler-Hayden an attacking wingback out of the Villa Academy. Unsurprisingly, he had to defend more than usual last night. Given the relative quality of his opponents (Jesus and co.), I'd rate KKH's performance right up there, alongside Palmer's. Hopefully Gerrard wasn't able to watch him.

Unfortunately, trying to emulate City's style with (relatively) Poundshop players was never going to ruffle the superstar visitors, who never left 2nd gear. City to Chelsea next week but no rest for our thin squad as we travel to Mansfield Town this Tuesday night.

How did you end up being a Swindon fan for your sins?

shereblue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:34 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:54 pm

shereblue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:49 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:30 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:33 am

Another easy win for City against Swindon. This Palmer guy from their academy really does look like a cross between Hoddle and Bergkamp. Yes they have all the money but after Foden and now Palmer It looks like the vast amount of money and effort they put into their academy is going to pay big dividends

Chelsea have been doing it for a while too. Liverpool are improving with Trent Alexander, Curtis Jones and Harry Elliott coming through. But City have incredible facilities... and will probably be more self funding for years.

Alongside Rodri, Cole Palmer (not Carlton Palmer, ITV!) was my City MOM. He could be an England prospect. Albeit his skills were only tested against a defence that is shakey in L2.

STFC MOM was loanee Kaine Kessler-Hayden an attacking wingback out of the Villa Academy. Unsurprisingly, he had to defend more than usual last night. Given the relative quality of his opponents (Jesus and co.), I'd rate KKH's performance right up there, alongside Palmer's. Hopefully Gerrard wasn't able to watch him.

Unfortunately, trying to emulate City's style with (relatively) Poundshop players was never going to ruffle the superstar visitors, who never left 2nd gear. City to Chelsea next week but no rest for our thin squad as we travel to Mansfield Town this Tuesday night.

How did you end up being a Swindon fan for your sins?

Simples. Supported my local club. There's an almost unshakeable strength in shared adversity. Blitz spirit. Oh and Don Rogers and all that. Never saw Mike Summerbee but his son was fairly decent.

At one point, 10 years or so ago, a trip to Barnet saw us as the only EPL/EFL club to have played every other club then in the four leagues. For me, that's ultimately an unswappable kind of journey.

I have to say I find Man City fans incredibly grounded given their celestial team.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:45 pm

shereblue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:34 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:54 pm

shereblue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:49 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:30 am

Chelsea have been doing it for a while too. Liverpool are improving with Trent Alexander, Curtis Jones and Harry Elliott coming through. But City have incredible facilities... and will probably be more self funding for years.

Alongside Rodri, Cole Palmer (not Carlton Palmer, ITV!) was my City MOM. He could be an England prospect. Albeit his skills were only tested against a defence that is shakey in L2.

STFC MOM was loanee Kaine Kessler-Hayden an attacking wingback out of the Villa Academy. Unsurprisingly, he had to defend more than usual last night. Given the relative quality of his opponents (Jesus and co.), I'd rate KKH's performance right up there, alongside Palmer's. Hopefully Gerrard wasn't able to watch him.

Unfortunately, trying to emulate City's style with (relatively) Poundshop players was never going to ruffle the superstar visitors, who never left 2nd gear. City to Chelsea next week but no rest for our thin squad as we travel to Mansfield Town this Tuesday night.

How did you end up being a Swindon fan for your sins?

Simples. Supported my local club. There's an almost unshakeable strength in shared adversity. Blitz spirit. Oh and Don Rogers and all that. Never saw Mike Summerbee but his son was fairly decent.

At one point, 10 years or so ago, a trip to Barnet saw us as the only EPL/EFL club to have played every other club then in the four leagues. For me, that's ultimately an unswappable kind of journey.

I have to say I find Man City fans incredibly grounded given their celestial team.

That's quite an achievement playing every other club in the football league!

For some I thought you were American and wondered.. why Swindon?? But your local club... makes sense now. Do you support a premier League side as well.. or only Swindon?
My local was Kettering at one point....

Varsity Way wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:43 pm A great howay win for Cambridge Utd!

shereblue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:04 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:45 pm

shereblue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:34 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:54 pm

shereblue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:49 pm
Alongside Rodri, Cole Palmer (not Carlton Palmer, ITV!) was my City MOM. He could be an England prospect. Albeit his skills were only tested against a defence that is shakey in L2.

STFC MOM was loanee Kaine Kessler-Hayden an attacking wingback out of the Villa Academy. Unsurprisingly, he had to defend more than usual last night. Given the relative quality of his opponents (Jesus and co.), I'd rate KKH's performance right up there, alongside Palmer's. Hopefully Gerrard wasn't able to watch him.

Unfortunately, trying to emulate City's style with (relatively) Poundshop players was never going to ruffle the superstar visitors, who never left 2nd gear. City to Chelsea next week but no rest for our thin squad as we travel to Mansfield Town this Tuesday night.

How did you end up being a Swindon fan for your sins?

Simples. Supported my local club. There's an almost unshakeable strength in shared adversity. Blitz spirit. Oh and Don Rogers and all that. Never saw Mike Summerbee but his son was fairly decent.

At one point, 10 years or so ago, a trip to Barnet saw us as the only EPL/EFL club to have played every other club then in the four leagues. For me, that's ultimately an unswappable kind of journey.

I have to say I find Man City fans incredibly grounded given their celestial team.

That's quite an achievement playing every other club in the football league!

For some I thought you were American and wondered.. why Swindon?? But your local club... makes sense now. Do you support a premier League side as well.. or only Swindon?
My local was Kettering at one point....

I supported Swindon when in the EPL in 93-94 . That's plenty of EPL supporting for me.

I do hawk my support for any matchdays when joining more fortunate mates. And I am frequently seduced by individual players. Their profession is as meritocratic as it comes. And Pep's City play the game the right way.

However, the EPL has commodified English football. That process has improved the quality of young English players. Witness Cole Palmer and to a lesser extent Villa loanee Kaine Kessler-Hayden last night. But it has also created a financial ring around access to the EPL - as well as seeing the big 5/6 seek to fashion a similar hold over the CL.

Kettering used to be a lively tier 5 club. They've slipped off my radar of late. I'm guessing Gazza's appointment may have been a symptom of underlying financial shenanigans? Sadly I have acquired a nose for small club financial shithousery.

Frodder wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:59 pm

Varsity Way wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:43 pm A great howay win for Cambridge Utd!

Newcastle will make a great addition to the Championship

Taxpayers pump another £30m into West Ham United's stadium
The former Olympics venue has racked up losses of £450m in the five years to March 2020

The London Stadium, home of West Ham United, cost taxpayers an extra £30m last year as the ground’s owners struggled to agree naming rights for the former Olympics venue.

Despite benefitting from a refund in business rates and lower operating costs as matches were played behind closed doors, the stadium, controlled by the taxpayer-backed planning authority London Legacy Development Corporation, remains in the red.

Shareholder’s injected £28.7m of cash through a combination of equity and debt in the year to March 2021, according to recently filed accounts.

Previously published accounts have shown the stadium racking up losses of £450m in the five years to March 2020.

The Hammers, who are currently fifth in the Premier League, pay £2.8m-a-year to use the stadium under an agreement dubbed the “deal of the century” by the Taxpayers' Alliance

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... s-stadium/

iarmhiman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:52 pm Awful awful performance.

Villa should have won that 4-1. United not making any progress. It's a mess

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:04 am It's not West Hams stadium. They pay rent

Taxpayers pump another £30m into West Ham United's stadium
The former Olympics venue has racked up losses of £450m in the five years to March 2020

The London Stadium, home of West Ham United, cost taxpayers an extra £30m last year as the ground’s owners struggled to agree naming rights for the former Olympics venue.

Despite benefitting from a refund in business rates and lower operating costs as matches were played behind closed doors, the stadium, controlled by the taxpayer-backed planning authority London Legacy Development Corporation, remains in the red.

Shareholder’s injected £28.7m of cash through a combination of equity and debt in the year to March 2021, according to recently filed accounts.

Previously published accounts have shown the stadium racking up losses of £450m in the five years to March 2020.

The Hammers, who are currently fifth in the Premier League, pay £2.8m-a-year to use the stadium under an agreement dubbed the “deal of the century” by the Taxpayers' Alliance

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... s-stadium/

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:43 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:04 am It's not West Hams stadium. They pay rent

Taxpayers pump another £30m into West Ham United's stadium
The former Olympics venue has racked up losses of £450m in the five years to March 2020

The London Stadium, home of West Ham United, cost taxpayers an extra £30m last year as the ground’s owners struggled to agree naming rights for the former Olympics venue.

Despite benefitting from a refund in business rates and lower operating costs as matches were played behind closed doors, the stadium, controlled by the taxpayer-backed planning authority London Legacy Development Corporation, remains in the red.

Shareholder’s injected £28.7m of cash through a combination of equity and debt in the year to March 2021, according to recently filed accounts.

Previously published accounts have shown the stadium racking up losses of £450m in the five years to March 2020.

The Hammers, who are currently fifth in the Premier League, pay £2.8m-a-year to use the stadium under an agreement dubbed the “deal of the century” by the Taxpayers' Alliance

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... s-stadium/

And you just know the Brady Bunch of porn kings is sitting there, biding their time and waiting to rescue the situation with a disgraceful knock-down offer to take it off their hands for good...so utterly predictable and another example of Boris' sh#tness...

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:19 am

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:43 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:04 am It's not West Hams stadium. They pay rent

Taxpayers pump another £30m into West Ham United's stadium
The former Olympics venue has racked up losses of £450m in the five years to March 2020

The London Stadium, home of West Ham United, cost taxpayers an extra £30m last year as the ground’s owners struggled to agree naming rights for the former Olympics venue.

Despite benefitting from a refund in business rates and lower operating costs as matches were played behind closed doors, the stadium, controlled by the taxpayer-backed planning authority London Legacy Development Corporation, remains in the red.

Shareholder’s injected £28.7m of cash through a combination of equity and debt in the year to March 2021, according to recently filed accounts.

Previously published accounts have shown the stadium racking up losses of £450m in the five years to March 2020.

The Hammers, who are currently fifth in the Premier League, pay £2.8m-a-year to use the stadium under an agreement dubbed the “deal of the century” by the Taxpayers' Alliance

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... s-stadium/

And you just know the Brady Bunch of porn kings is sitting there, biding their time and waiting to rescue the situation with a disgraceful knock-down offer to take it off their hands for good...so utterly predictable and another example of Boris' sh#tness...

You used to blame the "left wing" Newham council now you blame Boris

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:48 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:19 am

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:43 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:04 am It's not West Hams stadium. They pay rent

Taxpayers pump another £30m into West Ham United's stadium
The former Olympics venue has racked up losses of £450m in the five years to March 2020

The London Stadium, home of West Ham United, cost taxpayers an extra £30m last year as the ground’s owners struggled to agree naming rights for the former Olympics venue.

Despite benefitting from a refund in business rates and lower operating costs as matches were played behind closed doors, the stadium, controlled by the taxpayer-backed planning authority London Legacy Development Corporation, remains in the red.

Shareholder’s injected £28.7m of cash through a combination of equity and debt in the year to March 2021, according to recently filed accounts.

Previously published accounts have shown the stadium racking up losses of £450m in the five years to March 2020.

The Hammers, who are currently fifth in the Premier League, pay £2.8m-a-year to use the stadium under an agreement dubbed the “deal of the century” by the Taxpayers' Alliance

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... s-stadium/

And you just know the Brady Bunch of porn kings is sitting there, biding their time and waiting to rescue the situation with a disgraceful knock-down offer to take it off their hands for good...so utterly predictable and another example of Boris' sh#tness...

You used to blame the "left wing" Newham council now you blame Boris

Didn't it have to get mayoral seal?

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:47 am

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:48 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:19 am

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:43 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:04 am It's not West Hams stadium. They pay rent

And you just know the Brady Bunch of porn kings is sitting there, biding their time and waiting to rescue the situation with a disgraceful knock-down offer to take it off their hands for good...so utterly predictable and another example of Boris' sh#tness...

You used to blame the "left wing" Newham council now you blame Boris

Didn't it have to get mayoral seal?

Conservative Lord Coe insisted the stadium had to be built with a permeant running track. That meant it was a white elephant pure and simple. It's almost certainly why Gold and Sullivan bought West Ham. They knew they would be the only game in town. Spurs wanted to bu it but they would have knocked it down and that was never going to fly. So it was let West Ham have it for peanuts or have it sit empty for 10 months a year. It really was just a moronic idea from Seb Coe and whoever it was that let him have his way.

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:43 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:47 am

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:48 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:19 am

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:43 am

And you just know the Brady Bunch of porn kings is sitting there, biding their time and waiting to rescue the situation with a disgraceful knock-down offer to take it off their hands for good...so utterly predictable and another example of Boris' sh#tness...

You used to blame the "left wing" Newham council now you blame Boris

Didn't it have to get mayoral seal?

Conservative Lord Coe insisted the stadium had to be built with a permeant running track. That meant it was a white elephant pure and simple. It's almost certainly why Gold and Sullivan bought West Ham. They knew they would be the only game in town. Spurs wanted to bu it but they would have knocked it down and that was never going to fly. So it was let West Ham have it for peanuts or have it sit empty for 10 months a year. It really was just a moronic idea from Seb Coe and whoever it was that let him have his way.

Yeah, if I remember correctly the only reason the plan wasn't questioned hard was that the legacy of an athletics stadium in the area for ongoing use was a key strut of the bid (they played legacy big, if I recall). I'm not sure whether it's actually used for athletics nowadays but I'd say that was never going to be a major contribution to offsetting costs over the course of a year. I suppose the proper way to look at it is that WH save the taxpayer what, ~2.8M per year of additional losses. Bet Newham council would offload it if they could. Are they the official owners and did they think 2.8M was a good deal? It should have been indexed for a start. 99 year lease, isn't it? 2.8M in 2110ish is next to nothing and even today is maybe half of what a good/decent member of the WH 1st team gets paid gross per year. What an absolute joke.

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:47 am

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:48 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:19 am

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:43 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:04 am It's not West Hams stadium. They pay rent

And you just know the Brady Bunch of porn kings is sitting there, biding their time and waiting to rescue the situation with a disgraceful knock-down offer to take it off their hands for good...so utterly predictable and another example of Boris' sh#tness...

You used to blame the "left wing" Newham council now you blame Boris

Didn't it have to get mayoral seal?

Conservative Lord Coe insisted the stadium had to be built with a permeant running track. That meant it was a white elephant pure and simple. It's almost certainly why Gold and Sullivan bought West Ham. They knew they would be the only game in town. Spurs wanted to bu it but they would have knocked it down and that was never going to fly. So it was let West Ham have it for peanuts or have it sit empty for 10 months a year. It really was just a moronic idea from Seb Coe and whoever it was that let him have his way.

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:31 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:47 am

mabunch78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:48 am

Didn't it have to get mayoral seal?

Conservative Lord Coe insisted the stadium had to be built with a permeant running track. That meant it was a white elephant pure and simple. It's almost certainly why Gold and Sullivan bought West Ham. They knew they would be the only game in town. Spurs wanted to bu it but they would have knocked it down and that was never going to fly. So it was let West Ham have it for peanuts or have it sit empty for 10 months a year. It really was just a moronic idea from Seb Coe and whoever it was that let him have his way.

IMO the issue was that they didn't think to make in a multi use stadium for after 2012, even though it would have to be. They could have built it with retractable seating in the first place. Hence the millions converting it.

And to be fair to Seb Coe, while there was little foresight on the stadium, his overall vision for not having white elephants and a legacy worked pretty well. When you look at white elephants in Spain, Greece etc from their Olympics London 2012 actually showed it doesn't have to be like that.