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Uncle Fester wrote:He was a solid enough player alright.

Also Willie, no problem with Gus Aherne. You could even make a case for Rolland if you wanted to.
What was the name of the Northy second row paedo.
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Liathroidigloine wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:He was a solid enough player alright.

Also Willie, no problem with Gus Aherne. You could even make a case for Rolland if you wanted to.
What was the name of the Northy second row paedo.
Davy Tweed. He'd have been a contender for that team.

Actually Gussy Aherne wasn't that bad, and had a superb pass. His brother Deccy would have been a strong contender for a wing spot, but is kept out by the sheer quality of the competition.
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iarmhiman wrote:Maurice Field was pure shite at centre and James Topping at 14 was the big hope to succede Simon Geoghegan but he was crap as well.

Niall Woods couldn't tackle
The fact that

a. he was often at the end of some stupendously bad back lines

and

b. he still managed to score tries with the shite ball he got

is nothing short of amazing
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Lenny wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:He was a solid enough player alright.

Also Willie, no problem with Gus Aherne. You could even make a case for Rolland if you wanted to.
What was the name of the Northy second row paedo.
Davy Tweed. He'd have been a contender for that team.

Actually Gussy Aherne wasn't that bad, and had a superb pass. His brother Deccy would have been a strong contender for a wing spot, but is kept out by the sheer quality of the competition.
Yeah, Tweed should be in there for been a paedo and a bigot as well as really shite.
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this thread has triggered my PTSD

*repeats to self* rugby started in 2000 rugby started in 2000
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themaddog wrote:No love for Neville Furlong?
When you have scored a Test try in NZ, then you can throw stones at Neville ...
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I played with a lad back in the day who had played with Leigh Davies back in the day before. He said Leigh was as talented as any player you'd ever see, but didn't give one iota of a fcuk. He supposedly literally walked into a meeting of Welsh selectors and told each one, individually, to fcuk off. (I believe this was back when they still had such meetings, though it might have been evolving to the stage where the coach told the selection committee who he wanted).

From Mullin's first retirement in 91(?) to BOD's first cap in 99, Ireland never picked a center who offered as much in attack as Leigh Davies. Incredibly, though, I don't think we picked a center who drank as much as him either. (I may be selling Hendo short here).


Highlights of Wales' 96 season. Ireland at the time had nobody who could do all the things Davies does in this vid; https://youtu.be/U1vhXUiwx1o
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Liathroidigloine wrote:
Lenny wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:He was a solid enough player alright.

Also Willie, no problem with Gus Aherne. You could even make a case for Rolland if you wanted to.
What was the name of the Northy second row paedo.
Davy Tweed. He'd have been a contender for that team.

Actually Gussy Aherne wasn't that bad, and had a superb pass. His brother Deccy would have been a strong contender for a wing spot, but is kept out by the sheer quality of the competition.
Yeah, Tweed should be in there for been a paedo and a bigot as well as really shite.
Conviction quashed last year, need to be careful with Jake's warning over that kind of thing.

He's a bona fide wife beater though so can just go with that, and I know that for a fact.

Not up their with our worst players though.
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Saverimoto was the first one that popped into my mind. Basically anyone outside the outhalf looked terrible. Would Franco get a mention?

I thought Longwell was quite good. Just got reminded of him in the hard man thread as he offered to amputate his finger before an Ireland game when told he couldn't play because of an injury to it. The doctor refused. I don't think he got too many starts after that either so maybe the writing was on the wall. Serious commitment to the cause though.
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penguin wrote:
Hippopotamarse wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:We could put a team together that could beat (i.e. lose) to that set. :thumbup:
Go for it. I'll be happy to contribute/comment.
In fact, I don't even need to go searching for different players, this team played together, and apart from about 2 players, it's still worse that that Irish one:

This team took a pasting off France in 1998...Stuart f**king Roy! :lol: :blush:

The weakness with your team is that it includes quality individuals like Howley and Neil Jenkins (limited but brilliant at what he could do). Im sure in 1998 Leigh Davies was seen as quite the up and coming player.
He was, the bastard. he had me fooled.

Yeah, 6 lions players in that welsh 22. The drop off in quality is quite something to behold though.

To be fair any Welsh XV of the 90s needs Derwyn Jones at 5, and as captain. Height 6'10, crapness? Immeasurable.
Derwyn is a good call, but is dwarfed (both literally and for crapness by the 7'1" Richard Metcalfe of Scotland. I once saw Derwyn jump in a lineout. I'm sure you could actually get two sheets of paper between his feet and the ground.
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Leinsterbloke wrote:Saverimoto was the first one that popped into my mind. Basically anyone outside the outhalf looked terrible. Would Franco get a mention?

I thought Longwell was quite good. Just got reminded of him in the hard man thread as he offered to amputate his finger before an Ireland game when told he couldn't play because of an injury to it. The doctor refused. I don't think he got too many starts after that either so maybe the writing was on the wall. Serious commitment to the cause though.
Longwell is nowhere near the discussion, for one he was a bloody good player just unlucky to be there when MOK was in his prime, Davidson was still knocking about at the start and DOC, POC and Cullen were coming through and secondly he made his debut in 2000.

He was suggested by Von Duggan, who let's be honest is a lunatic.
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Michael Bradley at 9 for the 'speed' of his pass. If you were standing outside him and the ball popped out the back of the scrum you could wander off the pitch, make a pot of tea, buy some biscuits, have a smoke, dander back on and you'd still get cold waiting for the pass.
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nsfw
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Right Irishers, we're gonna take you on. If you're gonna stand behind your shite team we'll get ours:

1
2
3
4 Andy Allen
5 Derwyn Jones
6 Paul Arnold
7
8 Tony Copsey
9 Our Rupert
10
11 Arthur Emyr
12 Leigh Davies
13 Neil Boobyer
14 Alun Edmunds
15 Mike Rayer

I've run out of energy. Help my Welsh poster friends
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We were pretty good in the 90s but I reckon a post World Cup England could take part in the spacker fest.

1. Tim Payne
2. Andy Titterall
3.
4. Alex Brown
5. Dean Schofield
6. Chris Jones
7.
8.
9. Shaun Perry
10. Ollie Barkley
11. Bananaman
12. Noon
13. Erinle
14. May
15.
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Banahan
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tiddle wrote:Banahan
Good call...updated.
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Whilst in quarantine, avoiding the plague that is upon us, time to resurrect this bad boy.
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Guys, please make it stop.
This is all too painful :(( :((
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bealonian wrote:We were pretty good in the 90s but I reckon a post World Cup England could take part in the spacker fest.

1. Tim Payne
2. Andy Titterall
3.
4. Alex Brown
5. Dean Schofield
6. Chris Jones
7.
8.
9. Shaun Perry
10. Ollie Barkley
11. Bananaman
12. Noon
13. Erinle
14. May
15.
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Guys, let's face facts. If we're having a 90's shite RWC then we've got this hands down
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I will argue strongly in favour of Derek MacAlease (sp?) at outhalf over Nicky Barry.

And from memory, Brian Glennon doesn't belong on any shit team of any era either. Neither of them do. Both classy, classy footballers.

Ben Cronin, I'd be tempted to leave in there because, well, because fcuking Garryowen, but cannot in good conscience. Phil Lawlor for the win at eight lads. You know I'm right.

Kevin Nowlan. Shudder. I think there are Welsh supporters who were in Thomond Park to watch a Irish-Welsh A International who to this day, still have a whip-around at Christmas time and send Nowlan a red cross food parcel. You have to be really going hard to knock Kenny Murphy off his perch but Nowlan manages it.
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Frodder wrote:Guys, let's face facts. If we're having a 90's shite RWC then we've got this hands down
I've just seen the team you attempted, and you didn't even bring out the big guns...no Jason Jones-Hughes?

Can I suggest Derwyn Jones as captain...imperiously sh*t, and perhaps the emblem of welsh rugby in the 90s as Alun Wyn is for the last decade.
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penguin wrote:
Frodder wrote:Guys, let's face facts. If we're having a 90's shite RWC then we've got this hands down
I've just seen the team you attempted, and you didn't even bring out the big guns...no Jason Jones-Hughes?

Can I suggest Derwyn Jones as captain...imperiously sh*t, and perhaps the emblem of welsh rugby in the 90s as Alun Wyn is for the last decade.
No Jason
No Stuart Roy
Mike Hall in with a shout
No Mike Voyle

We can't find room for them all
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Irish shit team of the 00s:

1. Bryan Young
2. Paul Shields
3. Tony Buckley
4. Ryan Cadwell
5. Matt McCollough
6. Mick O’Driscoll
7. Niall Ronan
8. Mad Roger
9. Guy Easterby/Kieran Campbell
10. Jeremy Staunton/Ian Keatley
11. Ian Dowling (capt.)
12. David Quinlan
13. Kieran Lewis
14. Anthony Horgan/Justin Bishop
15. Gavin Duffy
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Sonny Blount wrote:
bealonian wrote:We were pretty good in the 90s but I reckon a post World Cup England could take part in the spacker fest.

1. Tim Payne
2. Andy Titterall
3.
4. Alex Brown
5. Dean Schofield
6. Chris Jones
7.
8.
9. Shaun Perry
10. Ollie Barkley
11. Bananaman
12. Noon
13. Erinle
14. May
15.
Shane Geraghty, Andy Farrell, Hendre Fourie, Peter Richards, Darren Crompton, Perry Freshwater. Lots of options...
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Keith wrote:
Sonny Blount wrote:
bealonian wrote:We were pretty good in the 90s but I reckon a post World Cup England could take part in the spacker fest.

1. Tim Payne
2. Andy Titterall
3.
4. Alex Brown
5. Dean Schofield
6. Chris Jones
7.
8.
9. Shaun Perry
10. Ollie Barkley
11. Bananaman
12. Noon
13. Erinle
14. May
15.
Shane Geraghty, Andy Farrell, Hendre Fourie, Peter Richards, Darren Crompton, Perry Freshwater. Lots of options...
Tom Voyce for full back - and he would be equally unable to cover the wings as well of course.
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A5D5E5 wrote:
Keith wrote:
Sonny Blount wrote:
bealonian wrote:We were pretty good in the 90s but I reckon a post World Cup England could take part in the spacker fest.

1. Tim Payne
2. Andy Titterall
3.
4. Alex Brown
5. Dean Schofield
6. Chris Jones
7.
8.
9. Shaun Perry
10. Ollie Barkley
11. Bananaman
12. Noon
13. Erinle
14. May
15.
Shane Geraghty, Andy Farrell, Hendre Fourie, Peter Richards, Darren Crompton, Perry Freshwater. Lots of options...
Tom Voyce for full back - and he would be equally unable to cover the wings as well of course.
I remember Voyce having a storming have against Wales once. Just once. Oh what could have been.
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redderneck wrote:I will argue strongly in favour of Derek MacAlease (sp?) at outhalf over Nicky Barry.

And from memory, Brian Glennon doesn't belong on any shit team of any era either. Neither of them do. Both classy, classy footballers.

Ben Cronin, I'd be tempted to leave in there because, well, because fcuking Garryowen, but cannot in good conscience. Phil Lawlor for the win at eight lads. You know I'm right.

Kevin Nowlan. Shudder. I think there are Welsh supporters who were in Thomond Park to watch a Irish-Welsh A International who to this day, still have a whip-around at Christmas time and send Nowlan a red cross food parcel. You have to be really going hard to knock Kenny Murphy off his perch but Nowlan manages it.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I was at a thing with Nowlan's old man the weekend of his first cap. Proud of his son so he was.
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Was it Ciaran Clarke the full back with the big boot on him? Terenure?

I remember they brought him back to play Wales I think it was 1998 and he missed an easy catch that gave Wales their first try and missed a lot of tackles as well. Now I didn't know him that well so is he a contender for full back in the worst 15?
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Jim Lahey wrote:Irish shit team of the 00s:

1. Bryan Young
2. Paul Shields
3. Tony Buckley
4. Ryan Cadwell
5. Matt McCollough
6. Mick O’Driscoll
7. Niall Ronan
8. Mad Roger
9. Guy Easterby/Kieran Campbell
10. Jeremy Staunton/Ian Keatley
11. Ian Dowling (capt.)
12. David Quinlan
13. Kieran Lewis
14. Anthony Horgan/Justin Bishop
15. Gavin Duffy
Mark McHugh at 15
David Quinlan was a better player than Barry Murphy or Denis Hurley, and a lot less tackle averse than Mike Mullins. He just happened to be the same age as some all-time Irish greats, so benched a lot for Leinster. In the modern era Nucifora would be at him to move to a different province and get games there.
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DOB wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Irish shit team of the 00s:

1. Bryan Young
2. Paul Shields
3. Tony Buckley
4. Ryan Cadwell
5. Matt McCollough
6. Mick O’Driscoll
7. Niall Ronan
8. Mad Roger
9. Guy Easterby/Kieran Campbell
10. Jeremy Staunton/Ian Keatley
11. Ian Dowling (capt.)
12. David Quinlan
13. Kieran Lewis
14. Anthony Horgan/Justin Bishop
15. Gavin Duffy
Mark McHugh at 15
David Quinlan was a better player than Barry Murphy or Denis Hurley, and a lot less tackle averse than Mike Mullins. He just happened to be the same age as some all-time Irish greats, so benched a lot for Leinster. In the modern era Nucifora would be at him to move to a different province and get games there.
Checks which school Quinlan went to...
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iarmhiman wrote:Was it Ciaran Clarke the full back with the big boot on him? Terenure?

I remember they brought him back to play Wales I think it was 1998 and he missed an easy catch that gave Wales their first try and missed a lot of tackles as well. Now I didn't know him that well so is he a contender for full back in the worst 15?
Clarke played in the wins over Wales and England in 93, spent years in the wilderness, and came back for one game in Twickenham. He was alright.

“Dropped a ball and missed a tackle” sounds a lot more like Simon Mason. Ulster legend, Ireland donkey.
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earl the beaver wrote:
DOB wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Irish shit team of the 00s:

1. Bryan Young
2. Paul Shields
3. Tony Buckley
4. Ryan Cadwell
5. Matt McCollough
6. Mick O’Driscoll
7. Niall Ronan
8. Mad Roger
9. Guy Easterby/Kieran Campbell
10. Jeremy Staunton/Ian Keatley
11. Ian Dowling (capt.)
12. David Quinlan
13. Kieran Lewis
14. Anthony Horgan/Justin Bishop
15. Gavin Duffy
Mark McHugh at 15
David Quinlan was a better player than Barry Murphy or Denis Hurley, and a lot less tackle averse than Mike Mullins. He just happened to be the same age as some all-time Irish greats, so benched a lot for Leinster. In the modern era Nucifora would be at him to move to a different province and get games there.
Checks which school Quinlan went to...
It doesn’t mean he wasn’t better than Hurley.
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iarmhiman wrote:Was it Ciaran Clarke the full back with the big boot on him? Terenure?

I remember they brought him back to play Wales I think it was 1998 and he missed an easy catch that gave Wales their first try and missed a lot of tackles as well. Now I didn't know him that well so is he a contender for full back in the worst 15?
He was a decent enough player.

If you want a horrific FB of the 90's, look no further than Colin Wilkinson.
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DOB wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:Was it Ciaran Clarke the full back with the big boot on him? Terenure?

I remember they brought him back to play Wales I think it was 1998 and he missed an easy catch that gave Wales their first try and missed a lot of tackles as well. Now I didn't know him that well so is he a contender for full back in the worst 15?
Clarke played in the wins over Wales and England in 93, spent years in the wilderness, and came back for one game in Twickenham. He was alright.

“Dropped a ball and missed a tackle” sounds a lot more like Simon Mason. Ulster legend, Ireland donkey.
I remember him. Played in our win over Wales 1996. Played for Richmond as well.
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DOB wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
DOB wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Irish shit team of the 00s:

1. Bryan Young
2. Paul Shields
3. Tony Buckley
4. Ryan Cadwell
5. Matt McCollough
6. Mick O’Driscoll
7. Niall Ronan
8. Mad Roger
9. Guy Easterby/Kieran Campbell
10. Jeremy Staunton/Ian Keatley
11. Ian Dowling (capt.)
12. David Quinlan
13. Kieran Lewis
14. Anthony Horgan/Justin Bishop
15. Gavin Duffy
Mark McHugh at 15
David Quinlan was a better player than Barry Murphy or Denis Hurley, and a lot less tackle averse than Mike Mullins. He just happened to be the same age as some all-time Irish greats, so benched a lot for Leinster. In the modern era Nucifora would be at him to move to a different province and get games there.
Checks which school Quinlan went to...
It doesn’t mean he wasn’t better than Hurley.
It's a deeply deeply silly post DOB.
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Keith wrote:
Sonny Blount wrote:
bealonian wrote:We were pretty good in the 90s but I reckon a post World Cup England could take part in the spacker fest.

1. Tim Payne
2. Andy Titterall
3.
4. Alex Brown
5. Dean Schofield
6. Chris Jones
7.
8.
9. Shaun Perry
10. Ollie Barkley
11. Bananaman
12. Noon
13. Erinle
14. May
15.
Shane Geraghty, Andy Farrell, Hendre Fourie, Peter Richards, Darren Crompton, Perry Freshwater. Lots of options...
Winters, Allen, Scarborough, Christophers, Vainikolo etc.

but May? what a plonker to suggest that
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Jack Clark. Genuinely, one of the slowest backs ever to play international football. Ungainly, stiff limbed with zero evasion skills. Even his one good moment on the the rugby field, his assist for Gordon Hamilton’s try, reveals the motion and suppleness of a 50 year old man with a bad back who has just gotten out of bed.
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DOB wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Irish shit team of the 00s:

1. Bryan Young
2. Paul Shields
3. Tony Buckley
4. Ryan Cadwell
5. Matt McCollough
6. Mick O’Driscoll
7. Niall Ronan
8. Mad Roger
9. Guy Easterby/Kieran Campbell
10. Jeremy Staunton/Ian Keatley
11. Ian Dowling (capt.)
12. David Quinlan
13. Kieran Lewis
14. Anthony Horgan/Justin Bishop
15. Gavin Duffy
Mark McHugh at 15
David Quinlan was a better player than Barry Murphy or Denis Hurley, and a lot less tackle averse than Mike Mullins. He just happened to be the same age as some all-time Irish greats, so benched a lot for Leinster. In the modern era Nucifora would be at him to move to a different province and get games there.
Ah McHugh, forgot him.
Didn’t Shaun Payne win a cap at 15 as well?
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