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The Cheetahs lost tonight but they're a long way from home and it was their first experience on NH rugby.

Thanks for the thrill. :nod:


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I like their 17, a real explosive prop.

Any possibility of further signings?


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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I only caught bits and pieces, but the Cheetahs backs looked dangerous. I think that's what will set them apart from the Italians in this league. Mid-table finish imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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A fun watch for sure


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Willie Falloon wrote:
I like their 17, a real explosive prop.

Any possibility of further signings?



Fudge off ! Surely you guys are full in the forwards ! ... :lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Botha Boy wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:
I like their 17, a real explosive prop.

Any possibility of further signings?



Fudge off ! Surely you guys are full in the forwards ! ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nah, props are a concern.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Willie Falloon wrote:
I like their 17, a real explosive prop.

Any possibility of further signings?

Long term replacement for the Beast.

Don't know about signings. They have Francois Venter, Cassiem and Mahoje to come back from the Boks. Flyhalf Niell Marais is out injured. They need him badly.

Rhule won't be back he has signed with the Stormers.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Onya Cheetahs......long way from home with more travel but at least still playing rugby. It took a team of imports to take you down.....Ulster by name only......


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Hard to judge how good the Cheetahs are against a team like Ulster.

Ulster are probably the most frustratingly inconsistent and underachieving team in the NH. On their day they'll walk through the best of teams, so if that was Ulster at full throttle the Cheetahs will be a force to be reckoned with.

On a side note, you'd wonder if there's a (professional) cultural problem in the Ulster squad that's been holding them back. Jonno Gibbes would be the man to sort it out you'd think.

Relaxed yielding on flights DUB-JNB, and maybe promotions, around game weekends would really encourage traffic both ways for fans and people just a bit curious about this new rugby venture.(..hint) :)


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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You lot are nicer than their own fans :thumbup:


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Fair play to Ulster, Cheetahs defense shocking as ever, with even more turnstile with "Loemkies" at 10

Just have to ask, will all the games be ruined by soft yellows in the Pro 14?


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Big Nipper wrote:
Fair play to Ulster, Cheetahs defense shocking as ever, with even more turnstile with "Loemkies" at 10

Just have to ask, will all the games be ruined by soft yellows in the Pro 14?


First yellow was fine imo. Anyone deliberately bringing a forward moving maul down in the 22 should be gone first time instead of all this nonsense about warnings.

The 2nd yellow was a joke tbf. The game is getting soft.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Big Nipper wrote:
Just have to ask, will all the games be ruined by soft yellows in the Pro 14?


You ain't seen nothing of home towning yet. Wait till your lads get to Wales. File a claim with the [strike]ECJ[/strike] UN in advance. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Zico wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
Just have to ask, will all the games be ruined by soft yellows in the Pro 14?


You ain't seen nothing of home towning yet. Wait till your lads get to Wales. File a claim with the [strike]ECJ[/strike] UN in advance. :P

I will get my armband ready


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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How did Lealiifano play?


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How did Lealiifano play?

He was excellent


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How did Lealiifano play?


Like a dream. I can't remember seeing him play so well. He was creating plays all over the place. Loved it! Him and Cooney had the best debuts I've seen in a very long time.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Big Nipper wrote:
Zico wrote:
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Just have to ask, will all the games be ruined by soft yellows in the Pro 14?


You ain't seen nothing of home towning yet. Wait till your lads get to Wales. File a claim with the [strike]ECJ[/strike] UN in advance. :P

I will get my armband ready

You're gonna need a bigger armband.


Seriously, that was one of the better reffing performances in the Pro 12 & Friends that you'll see.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Jim Lahey wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
Fair play to Ulster, Cheetahs defense shocking as ever, with even more turnstile with "Loemkies" at 10

Just have to ask, will all the games be ruined by soft yellows in the Pro 14?


First yellow was fine imo. Anyone deliberately bringing a forward moving maul down in the 22 should be gone first time instead of all this nonsense about warnings.

The 2nd yellow was a joke tbf. The game is getting soft.


both were bad cards.

then again that's how to guarantee your home fixtures - 2 cards a game should just about do it


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Monk Zombie wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
Fair play to Ulster, Cheetahs defense shocking as ever, with even more turnstile with "Loemkies" at 10

Just have to ask, will all the games be ruined by soft yellows in the Pro 14?


First yellow was fine imo. Anyone deliberately bringing a forward moving maul down in the 22 should be gone first time instead of all this nonsense about warnings.

The 2nd yellow was a joke tbf. The game is getting soft.


both were bad cards.

then again that's how to guarantee your home fixtures - 2 cards a game should just about do it

They were pathetic cards that ruined the game, especially the 1st, which then led to that shocking try where Ulster clearly knocked the ball in t he lineout


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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What has been the reaction in the SA media?
Did they enjoy the game and comments yet?


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Big Nipper wrote:
Monk Zombie wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
Fair play to Ulster, Cheetahs defense shocking as ever, with even more turnstile with "Loemkies" at 10

Just have to ask, will all the games be ruined by soft yellows in the Pro 14?


First yellow was fine imo. Anyone deliberately bringing a forward moving maul down in the 22 should be gone first time instead of all this nonsense about warnings.

The 2nd yellow was a joke tbf. The game is getting soft.


both were bad cards.

then again that's how to guarantee your home fixtures - 2 cards a game should just about do it

They were pathetic cards that ruined the game, especially the 1st, which then led to that shocking try where Ulster clearly knocked the ball in t he lineout


It was a professional foul in the red zone. He came in at the side first and advantage was being played, then brought it down. Clear as day a yellow, not sure as to why you would think otherwise.
Agree on the resulting try though, pretty much everyone around me at the ground said they wouldnt have given it.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Zico wrote:
Hard to judge how good the Cheetahs are against a team like Ulster.

Ulster are probably the most frustratingly inconsistent and underachieving team in the NH. On their day they'll walk through the best of teams, so if that was Ulster at full throttle the Cheetahs will be a force to be reckoned with.

On a side note, you'd wonder if there's a (professional) cultural problem in the Ulster squad that's been holding them back.
Jonno Gibbes would be the man to sort it out you'd think.

Relaxed yielding on flights DUB-JNB, and maybe promotions, around game weekends would really encourage traffic both ways for fans and people just a bit curious about this new rugby venture.(..hint) :)

100% believe there is, exacerbated by issues in our youth system.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetahs
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Cheetahs mindset in defence will have to change if they are to win the 4-5 away games needed to compete for trophies in this league


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They were pathetic cards that ruined the game, especially the 1st, which then led to that shocking try where Ulster clearly knocked the ball in t he lineout


Jissus - you are like a woman with wet bloomers.

Just STOP FOKKEN COMPLAINING !!!


Well done, Ulster - maybe the Saffers can galvanise you to play to your potential.


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Look like the NH refs are more strict on bringing the driving mail down then in the SH.

The Cheetahs just need to adjust to the referees.

Ds Trimble should have been yellowed for a fatty to gather him from the back. Cheetahs tight 5 have been impressive.


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You lot are nicer than their own fans :thumbup:

Quite a difference after such a big loss.


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Look like the NH refs are more strict on bringing the driving mail down then in the SH.

The Cheetahs just need to adjust to the referees.

Ds Trimble should have been yellowed for a fatty to gather him from the back. Cheetahs tight 5 have been impressive.

I thought your 17 looked like a classy player. Bok in waiting?


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Willie Falloon wrote:
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Look like the NH refs are more strict on bringing the driving mail down then in the SH.

The Cheetahs just need to adjust to the referees.

Ds Trimble should have been yellowed for a fatty to gather him from the back. Cheetahs tight 5 have been impressive.

I thought your 17 looked like a classy player. Bok in waiting?

Yeah I reckon by next year.


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Question, has anyone thought about the physical ramifications for Cheetahs and Kings players of playing Super Rugby and Pro 4 tournaments virtually back-to-back? They started playing in early February and they'll end up playing for more than 12 months almost continuously? Surely this is going to have a massive impact on the welfare of players?


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Question, has anyone thought about the physical ramifications for Cheetahs and Kings players of playing Super Rugby and Pro 4 tournaments virtually back-to-back? They started playing in early February and they'll end up playing for more than 12 months almost continuously? Surely this is going to have a massive impact on the welfare of players?


Lot of changeover in the squads tbf


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Cheetahs have a side playing in the Currie Cup this afternoon


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Question, has anyone thought about the physical ramifications for Cheetahs and Kings players of playing Super Rugby and Pro 4 tournaments virtually back-to-back? They started playing in early February and they'll end up playing for more than 12 months almost continuously? Surely this is going to have a massive impact on the welfare of players?



They get 5 weeks off in Dec/Jan plus an additional cumulative 6 weeks off during the pool rounds of the Euro Cup.


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If I want to read some local match reports for Cheetahs and Kings what are the best news sites to go to?


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If I want to read some local match reports for Cheetahs and Kings what are the best news sites to go to?


http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/detail ... o14-opener
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/PRO14/ch ... t-20170901

Pretty pathetic write ups


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danny_fitz wrote:
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If I want to read some local match reports for Cheetahs and Kings what are the best news sites to go to?


http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/detail ... o14-opener
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/PRO14/ch ... t-20170901

Pretty pathetic write ups

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Lions & Sharks want to join PRO14
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/more-te ... oin-pro14/

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. Rumours are circulating that more South African franchises want to join the expanded PRO14 competition, according to media reports.

South African-based sides the Cheetahs and Southern Kings are taking part in their opening PRO14 fixtures this weekend. The Cheetahs face Ulster in Belfast and the Southern Kings face the Scarlets.

The Times reports that the Johannesburg-based Super Rugby finalists the Lions and the Sharks, who are based in Durban, have both written to the South African Rugby Union and expressed their interest in following the Cheetahs and Kings' lead by playing in a Northern Hemisphere club competition.

It is unlikely that they will be accomodated in the Premiership or Top 14, however.

The Cheetahs and Southern Kings were axed from a now reduced Super Rugby competition, along with Australia’s Western Force.


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Zakar wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Question, has anyone thought about the physical ramifications for Cheetahs and Kings players of playing Super Rugby and Pro 4 tournaments virtually back-to-back? They started playing in early February and they'll end up playing for more than 12 months almost continuously? Surely this is going to have a massive impact on the welfare of players?


Lot of changeover in the squads tbf


So the players they brought into the squad didn't play SR? They must be dreadful then, given how poorly the South African teams performed overall.


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OomPB wrote:
Lions & Sharks want to join PRO14
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/more-te ... oin-pro14/

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. Rumours are circulating that more South African franchises want to join the expanded PRO14 competition, according to media reports.

South African-based sides the Cheetahs and Southern Kings are taking part in their opening PRO14 fixtures this weekend. The Cheetahs face Ulster in Belfast and the Southern Kings face the Scarlets.

The Times reports that the Johannesburg-based Super Rugby finalists the Lions and the Sharks, who are based in Durban, have both written to the South African Rugby Union and expressed their interest in following the Cheetahs and Kings' lead by playing in a Northern Hemisphere club competition.

It is unlikely that they will be accomodated in the Premiership or Top 14, however.

The Cheetahs and Southern Kings were axed from a now reduced Super Rugby competition, along with Australia’s Western Force.

Playing the Lions would be unreal. They're insanely good to watch.


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Ali's Choice wrote:
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Ali's Choice wrote:
Question, has anyone thought about the physical ramifications for Cheetahs and Kings players of playing Super Rugby and Pro 4 tournaments virtually back-to-back? They started playing in early February and they'll end up playing for more than 12 months almost continuously? Surely this is going to have a massive impact on the welfare of players?


Lot of changeover in the squads tbf


So the players they brought into the squad didn't play SR? They must be dreadful then, given how poorly the South African teams performed overall.


It could get pretty messy for SA sides. The whole reason for reducing the number of teams were the fact the couldn't afford them and they didn't have the player base to cover 6 teams.

This move, of course, changes nothing and the two results today are pretty embarrassing as debuts in a new competition.


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