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Apparently this will be a thing.

Aus

Sio
Uelese
Tupou
Philip
Arnold
Valentini
Hooper
Naisarani
McDermott
JOC
Korebeite
Toomua
Petaia
Wright
DHP

BPA
Orr
AAA
LSL
Samu
Gordon
Simone
Hodge


Aus A

Slipper
Horton
Robertson
Hosea
Blyth
McReight
Wright
Wilson
Powell
Lolesio
Daugunu
Godwin
Kuridrani
Ralston
Banks

Ready
Hoopert
Longbum
Swain
Lee-Warner
Louwrens
Maddocks
McGregor
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played where?
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There’s not a player there who you’d begrudge

Oz rugby has plenty of reasons to be optimistic.

My view is that none of these boys are there for the money. Let’s get back to basics. Pride in the jersey

#staunch
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grievous wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:00 pm played where?
Dunno. Probably throw Canberra a bone. It’s to give Pumas players a chance to get some top flight games under their belt before the RC.
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shanky wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:01 pm There’s not a player there who you’d begrudge

Oz rugby has plenty of reasons to be optimistic.

My view is that none of these boys are there for the money. Let’s get back to basics. Pride in the jersey

#staunch
No room for Ramm, HJH, Hunt, Newsome, Neville, Muirhead, F Finger, Deegan, Meakes, CFS, etc
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Depth

If they’d made the team, then I’d be praising them too.

Only HJH has cause to be pissed. But he suffers from (wait for it) a lot of depth at TH!!!!

Ramm is too soon. The others have got hairs on them IMO.

Meakes hurt his chances tonight for sure.
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shanky wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:13 pm Depth

If they’d made the team, then I’d be praising them too.

Only HJH has cause to be pissed. But he suffers from (wait for it) a lot of depth at TH!!!!

Ramm is too soon. The others have got hairs on them IMO.

Meakes hurt his chances tonight for sure.
Meakes threw maybe two decent long passing but was otherwise bad rugby AIDS on a stick.
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By the way, I'm not convinced this thread says anything other than that Farva is fond of powerful and exotic pharmaceuticals.
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:lol:

The inside of your head...
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Farva wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:51 pm Apparently this will be a thing.

Aus

Sio
Uelese
Tupou
Philip
Arnold - LSL is miles better and when did Arnold last play?
Valentini
Hooper
Naisarani
McDermott
JOC
Korebeite
Toomua
Petaia
Wright - can’t tackle
DHP

BPA - no Latu??
Orr
AAA
LSL
Samu
Gordon
Simone
Hodge


Aus A

Slipper - reeks of shit in 2020
Horton
Robertson - not a THP and HJH has been playing there this year
Hosea
Blyth
McReight
Wright
Wilson
Powell - journeymen at best
Lolesio
Daugunu
Godwin
Kuridrani
Ralston - over Ramm, CFS and that Brumbies dude?
Banks

Ready
Hoopert
Longbum
Swain
Lee-Warner
Louwrens - is he still around? Haven’t seen him in ages.
Maddocks -
McGregor - over Harrison?
White doesn’t make the bench for the B team?
But otherwise that’s not a bad effort for a first draft. I made some notes.
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Farva wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:09 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:01 pm There’s not a player there who you’d begrudge

Oz rugby has plenty of reasons to be optimistic.

My view is that none of these boys are there for the money. Let’s get back to basics. Pride in the jersey

#staunch
No room for Ramm, HJH, Hunt, Newsome, Neville, Muirhead, F Finger, Deegan, Meakes, CFS, etc
But you found room for players not nearly as good as them.
Except Meakes - he’s meh af.

Whoah. Deegan?! I don’t know if he’d crack the Townsville Brolgas.
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MungoMan wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:49 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:13 pm Depth

If they’d made the team, then I’d be praising them too.

Only HJH has cause to be pissed. But he suffers from (wait for it) a lot of depth at TH!!!!

Ramm is too soon. The others have got hairs on them IMO.

Meakes hurt his chances tonight for sure.
Meakes threw maybe two decent long passing but was otherwise bad rugby AIDS on a stick.
POSTSCRIPT

By the way, I'm not convinced this thread says anything other than that Farva is fond of powerful and exotic pharmaceuticals.
The day Meakes gets a cap is the day the Wallabies Worst Eva XV gets an update.
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towny wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:01 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:49 pm
shanky wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:13 pm Depth

If they’d made the team, then I’d be praising them too.

Only HJH has cause to be pissed. But he suffers from (wait for it) a lot of depth at TH!!!!

Ramm is too soon. The others have got hairs on them IMO.

Meakes hurt his chances tonight for sure.
Meakes threw maybe two decent long passing but was otherwise bad rugby AIDS on a stick.
POSTSCRIPT

By the way, I'm not convinced this thread says anything other than that Farva is fond of powerful and exotic pharmaceuticals.
The day Meakes gets a cap is the day the Wallabies Worst Eva XV gets an update.
:lol:

Cruel but fair
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towny wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:57 pm
Farva wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:51 pm Apparently this will be a thing.

Aus

Sio
Uelese
Tupou
Philip
Arnold - LSL is miles better and when did Arnold last play?
Valentini
Hooper
Naisarani
McDermott
JOC
Korebeite
Toomua
Petaia
Wright - can’t tackle
DHP

BPA - no Latu??
Orr
AAA
LSL
Samu
Gordon
Simone
Hodge


Aus A

Slipper - reeks of shit in 2020
Horton
Robertson - not a THP and HJH has been playing there this year
Hosea
Blyth
McReight
Wright
Wilson
Powell - journeymen at best
Lolesio
Daugunu
Godwin
Kuridrani
Ralston - over Ramm, CFS and that Brumbies dude?
Banks

Ready
Hoopert
Longbum
Swain
Lee-Warner
Louwrens - is he still around? Haven’t seen him in ages.
Maddocks -
McGregor - over Harrison?
White doesn’t make the bench for the B team?
But otherwise that’s not a bad effort for a first draft. I made some notes.
Arnold played last weekend and is, playing this weekend head to head versus Skelton.

LSL is great, id have him and Arnold.
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LSL and Arnold would be okay. Phillip had a blinder today. Can’t imagine Arnold doing nearly as well taking down a Thor in full flight. Hosea and Blyth went okay too.

Did either team lose a lineout today?
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towny wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:48 pm LSL and Arnold would be okay. Phillip had a blinder today. Can’t imagine Arnold doing nearly as well taking down a Thor in full flight. Hosea and Blyth went okay too.

Did either team lose a lineout today?
Not that I recall actually.

Phillip was very good today. Angry.
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towny wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:01 pm
The day Meakes gets a cap is the day the Wallabies Worst Eva XV gets an update.
Name your full team, Towny? I have some nominations: Roy Prosser, Peter Horton, Rupert Rosenblum, Arthur McGill, James Black, Garrick Fay, Michael Brial, Jeff Sayle, Reg Smith ( he was a very good club second rower who had never played front row, but was thrown in at prop against the Boks - has to be the single worst selection in rugby history), Peter Carson. All before your time, I would guess.
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Paisami gets a run, preferably at 12, in the As. If not there then on the bench or 13. This bloke is quality.
Stewart also did his his chances no harm last night.
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There is no way Tahu is unseated as the worst 12 to wear gold.
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Zakar wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:27 am There is no way Tahu is unseated as the worst 12 to wear gold.

Jeez, I had forgotten that.
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Zakar wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:27 am There is no way Tahu is unseated as the worst 12 to wear gold.
Did Pat run slowly in a straight line McCabe play 12?

And yes I know for one season he turned into an ok wing but I'm referring to his time in the midfield. I loved seeing him named in the Wallabies.
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Olo wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:26 pm Paisami gets a run, preferably at 12, in the As. If not there then on the bench or 13. This bloke is quality.
Stewart also did his his chances no harm last night.
Who do you drop for Paisani and Stewart?
Toomua? Petaia? Kuridrani? Godwin?
Maybe stick him on the b team bench for McGregor
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towny wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:57 pm
Farva wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:51 pm Apparently this will be a thing.

Aus

Sio
Uelese
Tupou
Philip
Arnold - LSL is miles better and when did Arnold last play? Recently in Europe. He is touted as being bought back.
Valentini
Hooper
Naisarani
McDermott
JOC
Korebeite
Toomua
Petaia
Wright - can’t tackle. Who goes here then? Muirhead? He is a super level player only. CFS? Ditto. Need one? Ditto. Shift a fullback? Nah
DHP

BPA - no Latu?? Is he going to be available?
Orr
AAA
LSL
Samu
Gordon
Simone
Hodge


Aus A

Slipper - reeks of shit in 2020. Sure. Robertson then.
Horton
Robertson - not a THP and HJH has been playing there this year. A cas of the Mogs! Let’s go with HJH then.
Hosea
Blyth
McReight
Wright
Wilson
Powell - journeymen at best. We could go with White. I just haven’t forgiven him for kicking away that Bledisloe game.
Lolesio
Daugunu
Godwin
Kuridrani
Ralston - over Ramm, CFS and that Brumbies dude? Ram is an 11 isn’t he? Muirhead and CFS won’t be test players, Ralston is about 20 and is a player of the future.
Banks

Ready
Hoopert
Longbum
Swain
Lee-Warner
Louwrens - is he still around? Haven’t seen him in ages. He is injured.
Maddocks -
McGregor - over Harrison? I’m biased. Happy with Paisani here instead. Harrison could get a run too. He is the future and we need a 10 to come through to replace Toomua nd JOC.
White doesn’t make the bench for the B team?
But otherwise that’s not a bad effort for a first draft. I made some notes.
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UncleFB wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:21 am
Zakar wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:27 am There is no way Tahu is unseated as the worst 12 to wear gold.
Did Pat run slowly in a straight line McCabe play 12?

And yes I know for one season he turned into an ok wing but I'm referring to his time in the midfield. I loved seeing him named in the Wallabies.
He was crap. He played in the most unimaginable centre pairing ever with A Finger. Thai was worse however.
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Farva wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:35 am
Olo wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:26 pm Paisami gets a run, preferably at 12, in the As. If not there then on the bench or 13. This bloke is quality.
Stewart also did his his chances no harm last night.
Who do you drop for Paisani and Stewart?
Toomua? Petaia? Kuridrani? Godwin?
Maybe stick him on the b team bench for McGregor
I would say Godwin. I’m talking about the Bs with a view to him being JPs backup if he gets injured(god forbid).
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Australia A being the seconds or Bs...........confusing
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wamberal wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:19 pm
towny wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:01 pm
The day Meakes gets a cap is the day the Wallabies Worst Eva XV gets an update.
Name your full team, Towny? I have some nominations: Roy Prosser, Peter Horton, Rupert Rosenblum, Arthur McGill, James Black, Garrick Fay, Michael Brial, Jeff Sayle, Reg Smith ( he was a very good club second rower who had never played front row, but was thrown in at prop against the Boks - has to be the single worst selection in rugby history), Peter Carson. All before your time, I would guess.
Carson was better than that Qld bloke - Hauser? Edit and a 1 test wonder - Eric Tindall.

And McGill was better than 1-test (?Bruce) Cooke - he uber-sucked.
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Olo wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:55 am
Farva wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:35 am
Olo wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:26 pm Paisami gets a run, preferably at 12, in the As. If not there then on the bench or 13. This bloke is quality.
Stewart also did his his chances no harm last night.
Who do you drop for Paisani and Stewart?
Toomua? Petaia? Kuridrani? Godwin?
Maybe stick him on the b team bench for McGregor
I would say Godwin. I’m talking about the Bs with a view to him being JPs backup if he gets injured(god forbid).
That’s tough on Godwin who has been in great form in Super rugby. To be honest going down that route pick Paisami for Kuridrani. Kuridrani is a bit older than Godwin, has not been in form, is a known quantity, and typically stifles the attack of those outside of him.
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UncleFB wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:21 am
Zakar wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:27 am There is no way Tahu is unseated as the worst 12 to wear gold.
Did Pat run slowly in a straight line McCabe play 12?

And yes I know for one season he turned into an ok wing but I'm referring to his time in the midfield. I loved seeing him named in the Wallabies.
Yes, but Tahu made him look like Tim Horan.
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Godwin has been OK. Paisami matches his defence but offers much more in attack.
TBH, I would take Stewart ahead of Godwin as well. He’s had his chances
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Ellafan wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:04 am
wamberal wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:19 pm
towny wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:01 pm
The day Meakes gets a cap is the day the Wallabies Worst Eva XV gets an update.
Name your full team, Towny? I have some nominations: Roy Prosser, Peter Horton, Rupert Rosenblum, Arthur McGill, James Black, Garrick Fay, Michael Brial, Jeff Sayle, Reg Smith ( he was a very good club second rower who had never played front row, but was thrown in at prop against the Boks - has to be the single worst selection in rugby history), Peter Carson. All before your time, I would guess.
Carson was better than that Qld bloke - Hauser? Edit and a 1 test wonder - Eric Tindall.

And McGill was better than 1-test (?Bruce) Cooke - he uber-sucked
Jim Roxburgh was another one, but only because he was far too small, scrummaging was very different in those days, he was only about 80 kgs! Big heart, also gets a lot of marks for not touring South Africa.
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Some of your list are unsurprisingly in this side. I wonder if they would have lost, had Hipwell been fit?

15 FB
Arthur McGill
14 W
John Cole
13 C
David l'Estrange
12 C
Trevor Stegman
11 W
Owen Stephens
10 FH
Geoff Richardson
9 SH
Eric Tindall
1 P
Ron Graham
2 H
Chris Carberry
3 P
Jake Howard
4 L
Stuart Gregory
5 L
Garrick Fay
6 F
Dick Cocks
7 F
Peter Sullivan (c)
8 N8
Mark Loane
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wamberal wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:50 am
Ellafan wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:04 am
wamberal wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:19 pm
towny wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:01 pm
The day Meakes gets a cap is the day the Wallabies Worst Eva XV gets an update.
Name your full team, Towny? I have some nominations: Roy Prosser, Peter Horton, Rupert Rosenblum, Arthur McGill, James Black, Garrick Fay, Michael Brial, Jeff Sayle, Reg Smith ( he was a very good club second rower who had never played front row, but was thrown in at prop against the Boks - has to be the single worst selection in rugby history), Peter Carson. All before your time, I would guess.
Carson was better than that Qld bloke - Hauser? Edit and a 1 test wonder - Eric Tindall.

And McGill was better than 1-test (?Bruce) Cooke - he uber-sucked
Jim Roxburgh was another one, but only because he was far too small, scrummaging was very different in those days, he was only about 80 kgs! Big heart, also gets a lot of marks for not touring South Africa.
David Fitter is captain of my team.
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Olo wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:36 am Godwin has been OK. Paisami matches his defence but offers much more in attack.
TBH, I would take Stewart ahead of Godwin as well. He’s had his chances
I just don’t agree with that. Godwin has been a regular in the super rugby team of the week since he came back.

Stewart is super level at best at the moment for me.
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Farva wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:11 am
Olo wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:36 am Godwin has been OK. Paisami matches his defence but offers much more in attack.
TBH, I would take Stewart ahead of Godwin as well. He’s had his chances
I just don’t agree with that. Godwin has been a regular in the super rugby team of the week since he came back.

Stewart is super level at best at the moment for me.
What stats has Godwin got?
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towny wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:08 am
Farva wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:11 am
Olo wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:36 am Godwin has been OK. Paisami matches his defence but offers much more in attack.
TBH, I would take Stewart ahead of Godwin as well. He’s had his chances
I just don’t agree with that. Godwin has been a regular in the super rugby team of the week since he came back.

Stewart is super level at best at the moment for me.
What stats has Godwin got?
Dunno. Heard he did OK in a year nine science project. Not sure what else.
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Little tough no Force players made it but that will change soon enough. Of course Force can buy up whoever they please so maybe this situation will change dramatically next season.
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Farva wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:56 pm
towny wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:08 am
Farva wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:11 am
Olo wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:36 am Godwin has been OK. Paisami matches his defence but offers much more in attack.
TBH, I would take Stewart ahead of Godwin as well. He’s had his chances
I just don’t agree with that. Godwin has been a regular in the super rugby team of the week since he came back.

Stewart is super level at best at the moment for me.
What stats has Godwin got?
Dunno. Heard he did OK in a year nine science project. Not sure what else.
Seems like he’s scored less tries, less breaks and less everything. No one sane is saying that Hamish Stewart should be in the squad, but he played way better than Godwin this year.

WF fans saw that none of their journeymen made the team - they looked at their roster and saw which were the least mediocre, and screamed that they should be included.
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grievous wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:18 pm Little tough no Force players made it but that will change soon enough. Of course Force can buy up whoever they please so maybe this situation will change dramatically next season.
So far they’ve bought Robertson. Apparently he was in the squad but had a line put through his name when the selectors heard of his 2021 destination.
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Farva wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:11 am
Olo wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:36 am Godwin has been OK. Paisami matches his defence but offers much more in attack.
TBH, I would take Stewart ahead of Godwin as well. He’s had his chances
I just don’t agree with that. Godwin has been a regular in the super rugby team of the week since he came back.

Stewart is super level at best at the moment for me.
That’s giving him the short end of the stick. He has been in everything this year. Defence has been top notch but also offers good line breaking and distribution outside JOC. Maybe not in the squad but he wouldn’t let anyone down if chosen. We have a lot of depth in the centres.
Stewart deserved the spot ahead of Lenny Ikatau TBF.
Happy to jump on board Rennies master plan though :thumbup:
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towny wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:39 pm
Farva wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:56 pm
towny wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:08 am
Farva wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:11 am
Olo wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:36 am Godwin has been OK. Paisami matches his defence but offers much more in attack.
TBH, I would take Stewart ahead of Godwin as well. He’s had his chances
I just don’t agree with that. Godwin has been a regular in the super rugby team of the week since he came back.

Stewart is super level at best at the moment for me.
What stats has Godwin got?
Dunno. Heard he did OK in a year nine science project. Not sure what else.
Seems like he’s scored less tries, less breaks and less everything. No one sane is saying that Hamish Stewart should be in the squad, but he played way better than Godwin this year.

WF fans saw that none of their journeymen made the team - they looked at their roster and saw which were the least mediocre, and screamed that they should be included.
Right, you made me look it up.
Godwin played less games than Stewart (he flew in late to the tournament), but in those less games made more carries for more metres, kicked more and made more tackles (albeit Stewart had a lower missed tackle rate at 13% v 17% for Godwin). All in all, Godwin achieved more in less games than Stewart. Stewart got one try v Godwin's 0 mind, but the Reds were much higher scoring than the Force so that is not surprising.
The stats say select Godwin
https://www.rugby.com.au/players/hamish ... uper-Rugby
https://www.rugby.com.au/players/kyle-g ... uper-Rugby

He also has better stats than Hunter Paisami incidentally.

https://www.rugby.com.au/players/hunter ... uper-Rugby
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