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Stevus55 wrote:Reads a little like the journo desperately wants it to be the stuff of a gripping spy novel. 'The USB mysteriously appeared on the desk. No-one knows how it got there... because they didn't check the CCTV. Also, it may have been delivered by the inhouse mail service."
Yeah I just plugged this random mystery usb into my computer, I mean there's no chance it could have contained a Trojan to leak all the info off my work pc.
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anonymous_joe wrote:
CM11 wrote:I'm not sure I've ever been to Bray (bar possibly playing Pres, can't remember if I ever played them away). What sort of size town is it? Similar to Dun Laoghaire?
Dun Laoghaire is ruined by a handful of scobes.

Bray is the same but instead of a handful, they're about 90% of the population. Desperate place.
Dun Laoighre has come on seriously in the last few years. Really got its act together after becoming a bit of a shit hole.
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Boxcar Ira wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:
CM11 wrote:I'm not sure I've ever been to Bray (bar possibly playing Pres, can't remember if I ever played them away). What sort of size town is it? Similar to Dun Laoghaire?
Dun Laoghaire is ruined by a handful of scobes.

Bray is the same but instead of a handful, they're about 90% of the population. Desperate place.
Dun Laoighre has come on seriously in the last few years. Really got its act together after becoming a bit of a shit hole.
Yep, crouchy and his missus frequently go to Dun Laoghaire on a Sunday and it's very nice these days. Haven't seen many dickheads about.
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So I'm a DOB apologist :roll:

Can someone explain to me what the article ultimately said?
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rfurlong wrote:So I'm a DOB apologist :roll:

Can someone explain to me what the article ultimately said?
That he doesn't have a case against Red Flag. He never did. The USB stick was a gamble for discovery which I'd guess he's now not going to get.

EDIT: The first covered the fact he never had a case to begin with. Red flag didn't give the spy anything that wasn't already public domain. DOB cackhandly tried to find out who leaked the info to the TDs and RTE and failed. He then set out about trying to get more info by dragging Red Flag into it and trawling there computers, in all likelihood thinking that because of the dossier they were the ones responsible.
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paddyor wrote:
rfurlong wrote:So I'm a DOB apologist :roll:

Can someone explain to me what the article ultimately said?
That he doesn't have a case against Red Flag. He never did. The USB stick was a gamble for discovery which I'd guess he's now not going to get.

EDIT: The first covered the fact he never had a case to begin with. Red flag didn't give the spy anything that wasn't already public domain. DOB cackhandly tried to find out who leaked the info to the TDs and RTE and failed. He then set out about trying to get more info by dragging Red Flag into it and trawling there computers, in all likelihood thinking that because of the dossier they were the ones responsible.
Leaked what? A bunch of news articles already in the public domain?

Wheres the story here?
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rfurlong wrote:
paddyor wrote:
rfurlong wrote:So I'm a DOB apologist :roll:

Can someone explain to me what the article ultimately said?
That he doesn't have a case against Red Flag. He never did. The USB stick was a gamble for discovery which I'd guess he's now not going to get.

EDIT: The first covered the fact he never had a case to begin with. Red flag didn't give the spy anything that wasn't already public domain. DOB cackhandly tried to find out who leaked the info to the TDs and RTE and failed. He then set out about trying to get more info by dragging Red Flag into it and trawling there computers, in all likelihood thinking that because of the dossier they were the ones responsible.
Leaked what? A bunch of news articles already in the public domain?

Wheres the story here?
The banking stuff about IBRC that RTE weren't allowed report on. There's no story except for the story that DOB attempted to go after the source/s.
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Technically speaking, RTÉ would have been allowed publish it, if no names were used. The issue that arose was that the story wasn't very interesting.

Re Dun Laoghaire - it's improving, but it's still dull as fúck. Desperately short of bars and restaurants because they let knackers have the run of the place for so long.
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anonymous_joe wrote:Technically speaking, RTÉ would have been allowed publish it, if no names were used. The issue that arose was that the story wasn't very interesting.

Re Dun Laoghaire - it's improving, but it's still dull as fúck. Desperately short of bars and restaurants because they let knackers have the run of the place for so long.
It's also demographically quite old. They could probably do with cutting the rents too.
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I've never done anything other than launch a boat out of DL tbh, apart from exorbitant increases in mooring fees I haven't noticed much - then I don't bother with the town itself, just drive in and drive out.

As for Bray... where is HKL for the inevitable "other" side of the story? or is he from some heretofore unknown enclave of decency amidst all that knackerage?
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Duff Paddy wrote:The Frecce Tricolore just lit up Rathfarnham f**k superb
Flying over our garden all afternoon. Great to watch. Biplanes looked amazing.
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FWIW the ST and the SBP both reporting that Barclays will use Dublin for Euro trade should London lose its passporting rights. Also reported widely that Lloyds (the Insurance Syndicate) have recently registered a number of companies in Dublin.
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P63 : LE WB Yeats moored at the Oilwharf in Haulbowline.


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Nice touch adding a clock tower to it
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:lol:
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Stevus55 wrote:Nice touch adding a clock tower to it
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Well the bray air display was f**king awesome. The red arrows and the frecce obviously the highlight but lots of other good displays. The Irish Air Corps held their own with a very good display of PC-9's considering they're not a dedicated air display team. The last we'll see of the 172's too according to the announcer.
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Caught the last group from the folk's house up in Enniskerry. Pretty impressive. Wish I could have got down to see more of it.
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rfurlong wrote:So I'm a DOB apologist :roll:

Can someone explain to me what the article ultimately said?
DOB is going to enormous lengths and presumably expense, including tampering with evidence presented to the High Court, to discover who is having information gathered about him. Just another example of him using our justice system to silence those who he perceives as a threat. This man, who has been found to have paid off a government minster in order to corruptly win a extremely profitably telecommunications licence which has allowed him become filthy rich. He and his huge media influence are a threat to freedom of the press and democracy in this country.

That and he falls asleep while drinking.
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He doesn't have an especially high success rate from our justice system. It's only his defamation cases that have really gone in his favour.
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Boxcar Ira wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:
CM11 wrote:I'm not sure I've ever been to Bray (bar possibly playing Pres, can't remember if I ever played them away). What sort of size town is it? Similar to Dun Laoghaire?
Dun Laoghaire is ruined by a handful of scobes.

Bray is the same but instead of a handful, they're about 90% of the population. Desperate place.
Dun Laoighre has come on seriously in the last few years. Really got its act together after becoming a bit of a shit hole.
yup, waterfront has improved a lot in last few years and People's Park is great for kids and fallon and byrne have done a great job of that place - good, reasonably priced grub - haddington hotel/oliveto's also good spot and have done a great job of that beer garden/pizza place out the front ; Pavillion theatre also :thumbup:
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Major news for the economy - a 20% drop in mortgage arrears.
Populist Watch Ireland wrote:Mortgage arrears fell from 92,291 at the end of September last year or down 27,000 households, the level of arrears for seriously troubled mortgages fell from c37,000 in Q3 2015 to 26,109 today, the latter category being the only group in any remote danger of being brought to court let alone losing their homes.

What you will not see today is a statement from Mick Wallace or Eoin O'Brion or Richard Boyd Barrett welcoming this massive improvement in the circumstances of over 27,000 households or 3.5% of total mortgage accounts. Instead we'll see Ruth Coppinger repeating her claims that the state needs to acquire 60,000 houses to house anyone who is in mortgage arrears. At the rate that mortgage distress is falling in Ireland she will need to cut her target in 4 months time as there will be less households in arrears than she claims homes are required to house them. Welcome to recovering Ireland, a place that populism not home ownership is endangered. :thumbup:
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I see that the 3 amigos were up for sentencing yesterday and had glowing references from all and sundry........interesting to see what they get on Friday when the judge finally makes his mind up.
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The Sun God wrote:I see that the 3 amigos were up for sentencing yesterday and had glowing references from all and sundry........interesting to see what they get on Friday when the judge finally makes his mind up.
How old are they? 65+ = suspended sentence.
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paddyor wrote:
The Sun God wrote:I see that the 3 amigos were up for sentencing yesterday and had glowing references from all and sundry........interesting to see what they get on Friday when the judge finally makes his mind up.
How old are they? 65+ = suspended sentence.
No....John Bowe is younger than me I think he is 50, Casey is about 55 and McAteer about 65 but this is his second conviction in 2 years so he will definitely do time.
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The Sun God wrote:
paddyor wrote:
The Sun God wrote:I see that the 3 amigos were up for sentencing yesterday and had glowing references from all and sundry........interesting to see what they get on Friday when the judge finally makes his mind up.
How old are they? 65+ = suspended sentence.
No....John Bowe is younger than me I think he is 50, Casey is about 55 and McAteer about 65 but this is his second conviction in 2 years so he will definitely do time.
I'm guessing he serves 3 months(6 max) with the rest suspended. The youngster could have the book thrown at them and serve 6-9 months with the rest suspended.
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paddyor wrote:
The Sun God wrote:
paddyor wrote:
The Sun God wrote:I see that the 3 amigos were up for sentencing yesterday and had glowing references from all and sundry........interesting to see what they get on Friday when the judge finally makes his mind up.
How old are they? 65+ = suspended sentence.
No....John Bowe is younger than me I think he is 50, Casey is about 55 and McAteer about 65 but this is his second conviction in 2 years so he will definitely do time.
I'm guessing he serves 3 months(6 max) with the rest suspended. The youngster could have the book thrown at them and serve 6-9 months with the rest suspended.
Didn't garlic man get 6 years for fcuking about with about 5 million quid from the VAT man ???
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The Sun God wrote:
paddyor wrote:
The Sun God wrote:
paddyor wrote:
The Sun God wrote:I see that the 3 amigos were up for sentencing yesterday and had glowing references from all and sundry........interesting to see what they get on Friday when the judge finally makes his mind up.
How old are they? 65+ = suspended sentence.
No....John Bowe is younger than me I think he is 50, Casey is about 55 and McAteer about 65 but this is his second conviction in 2 years so he will definitely do time.
I'm guessing he serves 3 months(6 max) with the rest suspended. The youngster could have the book thrown at them and serve 6-9 months with the rest suspended.
Didn't garlic man get 6 years for fcuking about with about 5 million quid from the VAT man ???
Come on TSG.

Garlicman was in commerce. Grubby work that. Very much sub-elite. The sort of carry-on best left to glorified manual labourers, yah? His kind, we can jail.

His kind understand punitive measures. The kind of measures which were designed to make those lesser mortals pull up short and consider their actions.
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redderneck wrote:
The Sun God wrote:
The Sun God wrote:
paddyor wrote:
The Sun God wrote:I see that the 3 amigos were up for sentencing yesterday and had glowing references from all and sundry........interesting to see what they get on Friday when the judge finally makes his mind up.
No....John Bowe is younger than me I think he is 50, Casey is about 55 and McAteer about 65 but this is his second conviction in 2 years so he will definitely do time.
I'm guessing he serves 3 months(6 max) with the rest suspended. The youngster could have the book thrown at them and serve 6-9 months with the rest suspended.
Didn't garlic man get 6 years for fcuking about with about 5 million quid from the VAT man ???
Come on TSG.

Garlicman was in commerce. Grubby work that. Very much sub-elite. The sort of carry-on best left to glorified manual labourers, yah? His kind, we can jail.

His kind understand punitive measures. The kind of measures which were designed to make those lesser mortals pull up short and consider their actions.
Paddy is right then.......3 months suspended !!!
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epaddy wrote:
rfurlong wrote:So I'm a DOB apologist :roll:

Can someone explain to me what the article ultimately said?
DOB is going to enormous lengths and presumably expense, including tampering with evidence presented to the High Court, to discover who is having information gathered about him. Just another example of him using our justice system to silence those who he perceives as a threat. This man, who has been found to have paid off a government minster in order to corruptly win a extremely profitably telecommunications licence which has allowed him become filthy rich. He and his huge media influence are a threat to freedom of the press and democracy in this country.

That and he falls asleep while drinking.
Waterford Whispers pieces on him are always brilliant

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/0 ... -tribunal/
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Interesting that BC have introduced a 15% tax on foreign purchases of property. I know a number of people from Vancouver and the foreign influx of cash into the property market has utterly changed the city, rendering it completely unaffordable for most locals.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.3694167
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ZappaMan wrote:Interesting that BC have introduced a 15% tax on foreign purchases of property. I know a number of people from Vancouver and the foreign influx of cash into the property market has utterly changed the city, rendering it completely unaffordable for most locals.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.3694167
Quite a few of my friends have lived or worked in Vancouver in the last few years. It's always had a large Chinese population and money is leaving China at an almighty rate. Vancouver is a perfect place for it to go.
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Is it Vancouver where there were/are helicopters buzzing around while Chinese investors pick out property from the air?
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That's where I've heard of it happening, all right.
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anonymous_joe wrote:
ZappaMan wrote:Interesting that BC have introduced a 15% tax on foreign purchases of property. I know a number of people from Vancouver and the foreign influx of cash into the property market has utterly changed the city, rendering it completely unaffordable for most locals.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.3694167
Quite a few of my friends have lived or worked in Vancouver in the last few years. It's always had a large Chinese population and money is leaving China at an almighty rate. Vancouver is a perfect place for it to go.
It's been flooding in since Chris Patten handed back the keys to HK in '97. The point is there was no consideration for the effect it would have on the next generation of Vancouverites who found property selling at an average of 12 times median salary.
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anonymous_joe wrote:
ZappaMan wrote:Interesting that BC have introduced a 15% tax on foreign purchases of property. I know a number of people from Vancouver and the foreign influx of cash into the property market has utterly changed the city, rendering it completely unaffordable for most locals.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.3694167
Quite a few of my friends have lived or worked in Vancouver in the last few years. It's always had a large Chinese population and money is leaving China at an almighty rate. Vancouver is a perfect place for it to go.
God damn Chinese are everywhere, like cockroaches and just as unwanted. They've obliterated and inflated property markets globally.

We joke about the Australian market but they've added a good 20% onto buying a house now for there for a resident. I spoke to a guy a couple of weeks ago who went to a open house near his folks place in Melbourne with the view of buying a place with his old man as an investment. It went past the reserve in 5 minutes about eventually sold for about $400,000 over asking price (total $1.4 million - the house prices there now are insane). The room was of course packed with Chinese who then move onto the next open house until they buy something.

I don't blame them for getting their money out as a lot of it is dirty and the system cant be trusted. When their internal credit collapses, which it will, they are going to bring us all down.
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ZappaMan wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:
ZappaMan wrote:Interesting that BC have introduced a 15% tax on foreign purchases of property. I know a number of people from Vancouver and the foreign influx of cash into the property market has utterly changed the city, rendering it completely unaffordable for most locals.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.3694167
Quite a few of my friends have lived or worked in Vancouver in the last few years. It's always had a large Chinese population and money is leaving China at an almighty rate. Vancouver is a perfect place for it to go.
It's been flooding in since Chris Patten handed back the keys to HK in '97. The point is there was no consideration for the effect it would have on the next generation of Vancouverites who found property selling at an average of 12 times median salary.
Oh I think they considered it and didn't care. You can buy a Canadian passport. (An Irish one too, I think?)
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Em, might want to tone down the language a tad there, Rumham.
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