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iarmhiman wrote:You have watched Deliverance Bogbunny?

Those Appalachian hillbillies are nordie decendents of the Ulster Scots variety.

Them uns started it!
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iarmhiman wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Jaysus, RIP.
Who are the most likely suspects here?
Ra or tinkers?
Roscommon isn't a hotbed of crime but there is a prison in Castlerea with IRA prisoners , so not ruling out the RA at all here.
Neither, local lad from what I hear. Emptied the revolver. Seemingly the Garda involved was a great lad who was really well thought of.
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Bogbunny wrote:Sorry if RR


Leinster is even worse than Munster says Prof:

DNA study reveals Ireland's age of 'god-kings'

Newgrange in County Meath is older than both the Pyramids of Giza and Stonehenge
DNA has been used to confirm the existence of an elite social class in the Stone Age inhabitants of Ireland.

It's one of the earliest examples of such a hierarchy among human societies.

A key piece of evidence comes from an adult male buried at the 5,000-year-old Newgrange monument; his DNA revealed that his parents were first-degree relatives, possibly brother and sister.

He was one member of an extended "clan" that was buried at impressive stone monuments across Ireland.

The Irish elites were established during Neolithic times, when people first started farming. The researchers extracted DNA from 44 ancient individuals from across Ireland and sequenced their genomes (the full complement of genetic material contained in the nuclei of cells).

Evidence of incestuous unions like that found at Newgrange are rare in human history; they are taboo for inter-linked biological and cultural reasons. Where they do occur, it is often within royal dynasties that have been granted divine status.


At Newgrange, the winter solstice sunrise illuminates the inner chamber with a blast of light
Brother-sister marriages are found among the pharaohs of ancient Egypt and the "god-kings" of South America's Inca Empire. Tutankhamun's parents, for example, are thought by some to have been full siblings. Among these cultures, rulers drew on aspects of religion to legitimise their power and wielded it through the construction of extravagant monuments.

Commenting on the genetic patterns seen in the man from Newgrange, Lara Cassidy, assistant professor at Trinity College Dublin, said: "I'd never seen anything like it.

"We all inherit two copies of the genome, one from our mother and one from our father; well, this individual's copies were extremely similar, a tell-tale sign of close inbreeding. In fact, our analyses allowed us to confirm that his parents were first-degree relatives."

The Newgrange monument in County Meath is a kidney-shaped mound covering an area of more than one acre. It's part of a tradition of elaborate monuments built with large stones, or megaliths, in Atlantic Europe during the Neolithic.

Older than Stonehenge and the Pyramids of Giza, the site is famous for its annual solar alignment where the winter solstice sunrise illuminates the inner chamber in a blast of light. The man's remains were laid in a richly decorated recess in the inner chamber.


Newgrange required extensive organisation and labour to build
"The prestige of the burial makes this very likely a socially sanctioned union and speaks of a hierarchy so extreme that the only partners worthy of the elite were family members, said Prof Dan Bradley, also from Trinity College.

Dr Cassidy, who is first author of the new study published in Nature, told BBC News: "It's an extreme of what elites do - marrying within your kin group allows you to keep power within your 'clan',

"But elites also break lots of rules, to separate themselves from the rest of the population... it's a bit chicken and egg: by breaking these rules you probably make yourself seem even more divine."

Remarkably, a local myth resonates with both the DNA results and the Newgrange solar phenomenon. The story was first recorded in the 11th Century AD - four millennia after the construction of Newgrange - and tells of a builder-king who restarted the daily solar cycle by sleeping with his sister.

The Middle Irish place name for the neighbouring Dowth passage tomb, Fertae Chuile, is based on this lore and can be translated as "Hill of Sin".

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Dr Tom Booth, senior research scientist at London's Francis Crick Institute, who was not involved with the study, called the study "impressive", further describing it as "the most detailed picture yet of the genetics of people who inhabited Britain and Ireland during the Neolithic period".

He added: "Given how remote these societies are from our own, I am wary of talking about dynasties or monarchs as we understand them today, and people anticipating a Neolithic Game of Thrones may have to have a cold shower.

"But certainly the evidence is quite convincing that certain megalithic tombs in Ireland were reserved for people who were biologically more closely related to one another, including potentially prestigious groups of families who married amongst themselves."

The team unearthed a web of distant familial connections between the man from Newgrange and other individuals from passage tomb sites across the country, including the "mega-cemeteries" of Carrowmore and Carrowkeel in County Sligo.

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The earliest diagnosed case of Down's syndrome was found among burials from the Poulnabrone portal tomb
"It seems what we have here is a powerful extended kin-group, who had access to elite burial sites in many regions of the island for at least half a millennium," explained Dr Cassidy.

Tom Booth said: "In Britain, recent discoveries that some tombs were built over the remains of timber houses has been used to suggest that these sites were linked to particular families, but solid evidence for who ended up in these tombs and why has always been elusive."

The ancient genomic survey also uncovered the earliest diagnosed case of Down's syndrome - in a male infant buried 5,500 years ago in the Poulnabrone portal tomb, County Clare.

"He was interred within a sacred place; he was breastfed before his death," explained Dr Cassidy. "It's an interesting glimpse at what the social values of this society might be.

"People with disability can sometimes be invisible within the archaeological record. I think it's really nice that we can now shed a light on this with ancient genomes."

Ireland's Neolithic inhabitants traced their origins to an expansion of people out of Anatolia (modern Turkey) around 6,000-7,000 years ago. This migration transformed Europe's way of life from one focused on hunting to one based on agriculture. Genetically, Ireland's first farmers were most closely related to people living at broadly the same time in Iberia (modern Spain and Portugal).

Over generations, the farmers traversed the Mediterranean from Anatolia to Iberia, weaving their way up the French coast before making their way to Ireland by sea.

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Two individuals at the Parknabinnia wedge tomb had recent ancestry from Mesolithic hunter-gatherers
On reaching the shores of this North Atlantic landmass, the new migrants quickly displaced the local Mesolithic hunter-gatherers, who were genetically similar to pre-farming peoples across Europe. However, their DNA shows they developed a distinctive character after being isolated for centuries.

Their genetic code shows little sign of interaction with similar populations in Britain, suggesting the Irish Sea posed a formidable barrier to contact in the centuries before farming.

DNA predicts that Ireland's hunter-gatherers had a striking combination of dark skin and blue eyes. By contrast, the Anatolian farmers probably had paler skin with brown eyes.

The small population of hunters may have been overwhelmed when the farmers arrived with bigger numbers. But they didn't completely vanish.

Two individuals from a wedge tomb at Parknabinnia, County Clare, showed high levels of Mesolithic ancestry. Clearly, Neolithic farmers sometimes integrated the hunters into their communities.

On whether the results could apply to other geographic regions, Tom Booth explained: "The evidence we have from earlier periods of the Neolithic in Britain and Ireland suggests that there was a looser link between tombs and families.

"People who belonged to particular paternal lineages were more often buried in megalithic tombs in these periods, but lower occurrences of close biological relatives suggest that familial links don't give us the whole story. Social developments leading to strong associations between families and megalithic tombs may have been specific to later Neolithic societies in Ireland."




Durty sister feckers...................... :blush:
Probably all killed of by later Beaker and Yamana incursions.
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Are the Gardai carrying more and more? What was the reason for him to have a revolver on him?
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Key points for me. We're just feckin' deadly in Leinster 8)
Bogbunny wrote: DNA study reveals Ireland's age of 'god-kings'

DNA has been used to confirm the existence of an elite social class in the Stone Age inhabitants of Ireland.
Bogbunny wrote:royal dynasties that have been granted divine status.
On another point, the Reacharound Gang must be wetting themselves now that DAC is back.
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CM11 wrote:Are the Gardai carrying more and more? What was the reason for him to have a revolver on him?
Detectives are usually armed aren’t they
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Duff Paddy wrote:
CM11 wrote:Are the Gardai carrying more and more? What was the reason for him to have a revolver on him?
Detectives are usually armed aren’t they
Typically only Special Branch, I thought. Might have changed in the last few years
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Duff Paddy wrote:
CM11 wrote:Are the Gardai carrying more and more? What was the reason for him to have a revolver on him?
Detectives are usually armed aren’t they
Yep
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Nolanator wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:Will there be a big march in town to demand justice for this poor guard by all the right on woke millennials? Will there fudge. RIP.
That's a particularly bad take, Duff.
Not really - nobody will be turning their Instagram to a black screen today. The people who broke the Covid lockdown to protest for a man murdered in America won’t be out on the streets for this poor Garda. They’ll continue to vote for Sinn Fein and I’m f**ked if I’ll be told that I can’t call them out on it.
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Leinsterman wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
CM11 wrote:Are the Gardai carrying more and more? What was the reason for him to have a revolver on him?
Detectives are usually armed aren’t they
Typically only Special Branch, I thought. Might have changed in the last few years
That's what I thought.

For how long MM?
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I read there they could always choose to carry.
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Liathroidigloine wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Jaysus, RIP.
Who are the most likely suspects here?
Ra or tinkers?
Roscommon isn't a hotbed of crime but there is a prison in Castlerea with IRA prisoners , so not ruling out the RA at all here.
Neither, local lad from what I hear. Emptied the revolver. Seemingly the Garda involved was a great lad who was really well thought of.
Don't think Gardai use revolvers.
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Local crazy? Or scumbag??
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Leinsterman wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Jaysus, RIP.
Who are the most likely suspects here?
Ra or tinkers?
Roscommon isn't a hotbed of crime but there is a prison in Castlerea with IRA prisoners , so not ruling out the RA at all here.
Neither, local lad from what I hear. Emptied the revolver. Seemingly the Garda involved was a great lad who was really well thought of.
Don't think Gardai use revolvers.
My mate does, a Smith and Wesson.
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R.I.P.

Do we know if the gun had been drawn by the Garda?
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Duff Paddy wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:Will there be a big march in town to demand justice for this poor guard by all the right on woke millennials? Will there fudge. RIP.
That's a particularly bad take, Duff.
Not really - nobody will be turning their Instagram to a black screen today. The people who broke the Covid lockdown to protest for a man murdered in America won’t be out on the streets for this poor Garda. They’ll continue to vote for Sinn Fein and I’m f**ked if I’ll be told that I can’t call them out on it.
RIP Garda Horkan. i'm sure he will be honoured appropriately as anyone should be who dies in service of the state.
Really not sure what point you're making here, Duff. What should people be out protesting against in this instance, given that we have no idea what happened?
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CM11 wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
CM11 wrote:Are the Gardai carrying more and more? What was the reason for him to have a revolver on him?
Detectives are usually armed aren’t they
Typically only Special Branch, I thought. Might have changed in the last few years
That's what I thought.

For how long MM?
I thought they only used automatics, I know revolvers don't tend to jam.
Edit. Explained earlier by glass balls.
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Massey Ferguson wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:Will there be a big march in town to demand justice for this poor guard by all the right on woke millennials? Will there fudge. RIP.
That's a particularly bad take, Duff.
Not really - nobody will be turning their Instagram to a black screen today. The people who broke the Covid lockdown to protest for a man murdered in America won’t be out on the streets for this poor Garda. They’ll continue to vote for Sinn Fein and I’m f**ked if I’ll be told that I can’t call them out on it.
RIP Garda Horkan. i'm sure he will be honoured appropriately as anyone should be who dies in service of the state.
Really not sure what point you're making here, Duff. What should people be out protesting against in this instance, given that we have no idea what happened?
Virtue signalling.
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Lazy Couch potato wrote:Local crazy? Or scumbag??
You'd have to be mad to get in a scuffle with a Guard and use his own gun on him, surely. Probably shouldn't be speculating on it tbf as I have no clue.
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was listening to PM of Greece being interviewed by Fareed Zakaria ; 1st up was the fact that I had just listened to Trump's latest word salad of a press conference and the contrast between the 2 was incredible ; he was being asked how come there were so few covid19 cases - went on about quick response etc and then almost in passing talked about testing of incoming passengers at greek airports....which begs the obvious question, how come we don't have testing for incoming passengers ? ....fill out this form like a good lad doesn't seem to be the best approach.

separately there was also an interesting discussion about number of people shot by US cops vs other countries ; almost 1,000 shot by US cops last year ; UK was something like 3 and Germany was 11 ; talked about the low threshold for pulling a gun in US vs other countries, apparently a lot of arms left over from Iraq war doled out in the US ; biggest issue though seemed to be how little training they get vs other countries
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ticketlessinseattle wrote:was listening to PM of Greece being interviewed by Fareed Zakaria ; 1st up was the fact that I had just listened to Trump's latest word salad of a press conference and the contrast between the 2 was incredible ; he was being asked how come there were so few covid19 cases - went on about quick response etc and then almost in passing talked about testing of incoming passengers at greek airports....which begs the obvious question, how come we don't have testing for incoming passengers ? ....fill out this form like a good lad doesn't seem to be the best approach.

separately there was also an interesting discussion about number of people shot by US cops vs other countries ; almost 1,000 shot by US cops last year ; UK was something like 3 and Germany was 11 ; talked about the low threshold for pulling a gun in US vs other countries, apparently a lot of arms left over from Iraq war doled out in the US ; biggest issue though seemed to be how little training they get vs other countries
You're also much, much more likely to be shot by a civilian in the US than any other country.

Toxic inequality and easy access to guns is a heady brew.
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Just saw that saoirse Mchugh wan was interviewed about the green vote.
Why does she have such a profile online? She’s a failure in politics.
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Think I saw a stat that a police is more than 30 times more likely to be attacked by the public in the US than in Germany. They've created this insanely confrontational system.
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Floppykid wrote:Just saw that saoirse Mchugh wan was interviewed about the green vote.
Why does she have such a profile online? She’s a failure in politics.
Shinner mole.
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CM11 wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Just saw that saoirse Mchugh wan was interviewed about the green vote.
Why does she have such a profile online? She’s a failure in politics.
Shinner mole.
I believe that you have to be a member of the Green Party for six months to have a vote on the PfG. That should change the odds in favour of acceptance, as it will exclude many of the Jonny/Mary come lately's, who haven't yet copped that you need to be in government to get things done.

EDIT Don't think she's a shinner, more like the Roscommon bog trotter methinks.
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She’s all open borders wokey type isn’t she?
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Floppykid wrote:She’s all open borders wokey type isn’t she?
And whatever you're having yourself.
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camroc1 wrote:
CM11 wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Just saw that saoirse Mchugh wan was interviewed about the green vote.
Why does she have such a profile online? She’s a failure in politics.
Shinner mole.
I believe that you have to be a member of the Green Party for six months to have a vote on the PfG. That should change the odds in favour of acceptance, as it will exclude many of the Jonny/Mary come lately's, who haven't yet copped that you need to be in government to get things done.

EDIT Don't think she's a shinner, more like the Roscommon bog trotter methinks.
Family DNA is Shinner, hence the name.
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Surprised her second name isn’t Mácgh’Hóighuínńaçh the.
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danthefan wrote:Think I saw a stat that a police is more than 30 times more likely to be attacked by the public in the US than in Germany. They've created this insanely confrontational system.
a figure of 30x I think was put out there alright but it was the killings of the public per 100,000 of population by US police vs other countries - but yeah, a big part of it was down to lack of training in de escalating situations, cultural awareness ; even the amount of time training - US is something like 6 months vs 2 to 5 years in other countries,
had also seen something about Baltimore in the states where number of shooting by cops plummeted - they literally replaced frisking people on street corners with ice cream vans .....pretty sure I;m not confusing it with the Wire !
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Floppykid wrote:Just saw that saoirse Mchugh wan was interviewed about the green vote.
Why does she have such a profile online? She’s a failure in politics.
she was on Sarah McInerney yesterday and was a joke - Sarah Mc let her off the hook a lot ; kinda touched on the whole issue of what is the point in you if you dont go into government ; was talking to mate of mine who was also a first time green voter and like me he had contacted his Green TD and told them if they dont go into government they can forget ever getting a vote again
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ticketlessinseattle wrote:was listening to PM of Greece being interviewed by Fareed Zakaria ; 1st up was the fact that I had just listened to Trump's latest word salad of a press conference and the contrast between the 2 was incredible ; he was being asked how come there were so few covid19 cases - went on about quick response etc and then almost in passing talked about testing of incoming passengers at greek airports....which begs the obvious question, how come we don't have testing for incoming passengers ? ....fill out this form like a good lad doesn't seem to be the best approach.
Varadkar suggested testing incoming passengers but at a price. We probably just aren't confident enough in our testing capacity.

15k a day could get sucked up quite quickly.
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Just thinking, the Greens are probably going to be screwed both ways if they reject. Abandoned by the centre voters who wanted an alternative to FF and FG and then abandoned by the more left voters who couldn't bring themselves to vote for SF. They can't have failed to notice they were only on 4 or 5 TDs before the transfers came through?

I get some think they might be abandoning their principles but they'll just end up being all talk and no action if they reject.
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CM11 wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
CM11 wrote:Are the Gardai carrying more and more? What was the reason for him to have a revolver on him?
Detectives are usually armed aren’t they
Typically only Special Branch, I thought. Might have changed in the last few years
That's what I thought.

For how long MM?

Honestly stats I've no clue, I just assumed tbh.
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MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
CM11 wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
CM11 wrote:Are the Gardai carrying more and more? What was the reason for him to have a revolver on him?
Detectives are usually armed aren’t they
Typically only Special Branch, I thought. Might have changed in the last few years
That's what I thought.

For how long MM?

Honestly stats I've no clue, I just assumed tbh.
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ticketlessinseattle wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Just saw that saoirse Mchugh wan was interviewed about the green vote.
Why does she have such a profile online? She’s a failure in politics.
she was on Sarah McInerney yesterday and was a joke - Sarah Mc let her off the hook a lot ; kinda touched on the whole issue of what is the point in you if you dont go into government ; was talking to mate of mine who was also a first time green voter and like me he had contacted his Green TD and told them if they dont go into government they can forget ever getting a vote again

She suggest a few weeks back a world wide minimum wage, yes a world wide minimum wage. I'm not sure at what point you go from saying its naivety to stupidity.
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MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
ticketlessinseattle wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Just saw that saoirse Mchugh wan was interviewed about the green vote.
Why does she have such a profile online? She’s a failure in politics.
she was on Sarah McInerney yesterday and was a joke - Sarah Mc let her off the hook a lot ; kinda touched on the whole issue of what is the point in you if you dont go into government ; was talking to mate of mine who was also a first time green voter and like me he had contacted his Green TD and told them if they dont go into government they can forget ever getting a vote again

She suggest a few weeks back a world wide minimum wage, yes a world wide minimum wage. I'm not sure at what point you go from saying its naivety to stupidity.
It’s what a lot of young zoomer/millennial types are being bombarded/singnalled with online.
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Just got my ballot
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Mullet 2 wrote:Just got my ballot
Surprised I havent seen any interviews with you yet
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One of the unfortunate side effects of the government's reaction to covid is that the people who believe in magic money trees will point towards the supports given to businesses and the PUP and go 'see, we were right all along'.
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