Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

normilet · Post by **normilet** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:27 pm

1 death, 85 new cases.

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:28 pm

I know one of them

camroc1 · Post by **camroc1** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:30 pm

iarmhiman wrote:85 new cases. Jesus

Was just going to post this.

New cases this week :

11, 40, 14, 85

Interesting spread.

JoeMangled · Post by **JoeMangled** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:36 pm

Shit numbers.

Greens are not a serious party. Fúck off.

iarmhiman · Post by **iarmhiman** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:38 pm

Pubs wont be opening until schools are back.

ticketlessinseattle · Post by **ticketlessinseattle** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:38 pm

is there a way they could pipe in some Benny Hill music the next time a Green Party member is speaking in the Dail ?

ticketlessinseattle · Post by **ticketlessinseattle** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:39 pm

camroc1 wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:85 new cases. Jesus
Was just going to post this.

New cases this week :

11, 40, 14, 85

Interesting spread.

lotto numbers sorted

Blackrock Bullet · Post by **Blackrock Bullet** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:39 pm

iarmhiman wrote:Pubs wont be opening until schools are back.

You really need to chill the beans on these daily reports.

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:39 pm

If they cancel my fücking trip to Sligo because of a few people who are not sick bar what an app told them I will fücking lose it

ticketlessinseattle · Post by **ticketlessinseattle** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:40 pm

trying to find a staycation for a week in the next few weeks - nothing out there

lilyw · Post by **lilyw** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:42 pm

camroc1 wrote:
HighKingLeinster wrote:Data commission now expressing privacy concerns about welfare officers questioning people in the airport
"Why did you question these people ?

I thought they were committing welfare fraud.

What lead you to that belief ?

The fact that they were."

This is getting silly now. And if the Data Commission hasn't got the good sense to butt out, the law needs to be changed to allow Welfare fraud be investigated.

The issue is that they asked all passengers on certain flights (presumably to Poland or somesuch). That is very difficult to stand up in court - it reeks of profiling rather than intelligence.

camroc1 · Post by **camroc1** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:46 pm

lilyw wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
HighKingLeinster wrote:Data commission now expressing privacy concerns about welfare officers questioning people in the airport
"Why did you question these people ?

I thought they were committing welfare fraud.

What lead you to that belief ?

The fact that they were."

This is getting silly now. And if the Data Commission hasn't got the good sense to butt out, the law needs to be changed to allow Welfare fraud be investigated.
The issue is that they asked all passengers on certain flights (presumably to Poland or somesuch). That is very difficult to stand up in court - it reeks of profiling rather than intelligence.

They were committing welfare fraud ! That, is a crime.

And how is that profiling, if they ask the same question of everyone on the flight ?

Gavin Duffy · Post by **Gavin Duffy** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:47 pm

camroc1 wrote:
lilyw wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
HighKingLeinster wrote:Data commission now expressing privacy concerns about welfare officers questioning people in the airport
"Why did you question these people ?

I thought they were committing welfare fraud.

What lead you to that belief ?

The fact that they were."

This is getting silly now. And if the Data Commission hasn't got the good sense to butt out, the law needs to be changed to allow Welfare fraud be investigated.
The issue is that they asked all passengers on certain flights (presumably to Poland or somesuch). That is very difficult to stand up in court - it reeks of profiling rather than intelligence.
They were committing welfare fraud ! That, is a crime.

The dinner party circuit disagree.

camroc1 · Post by **camroc1** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:17 pm

Surprise, surprise !

Bewleys is reopening at the end of August.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/ret ... -1.4318090

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:32 pm

Anybody really believe this is the first time he did this https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... 7?mode=amp

FidesEtRobur · Post by **FidesEtRobur** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:33 pm

nardol wrote: *best paid in the world is what i meant.

Both lufthansa and AF pay better.

I think you’re talking about pilots specifically? Nowhere near the best paid in the world. What I said was ‘some of the best conditions in Europe’, which they have. Top 3 with as you say, AF and Lufthansa - out of over a hundred in Europe. When you take non salary benefits, working conditions, pension etc into account there’s much of muchness between the top 3.

camroc1 · Post by **camroc1** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:00 pm

And now Green Minister of State Joe O'Brien has abstained on the Government bill.

So much for collective responsibility.

Martin needs to seriously crack the whip.

HighKingLeinster · Post by **HighKingLeinster** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:05 pm

camroc1 wrote:And now Green Minister of State Joe O'Brien has abstained on the Government bill.

So much for collective responsibility.

Martin needs to seriously crack the whip.

Simple message needs to be delivered to them. Accept the democratic decision of their party membership or resign their seats and stand as indos in the subsequent by-election

ticketlessinseattle · Post by **ticketlessinseattle** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:20 pm

HighKingLeinster wrote:
camroc1 wrote:And now Green Minister of State Joe O'Brien has abstained on the Government bill.

So much for collective responsibility.

Martin needs to seriously crack the whip.
Simple message needs to be delivered to them. Accept the democratic decision of their party membership or resign their seats and stand as indos in the subsequent by-election

loony tunes stuff

Conspicuous · Post by **Conspicuous** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:32 pm

ticketlessinseattle wrote:trying to find a staycation for a week in the next few weeks - nothing out there

Where are you living?

danthefan · Post by **danthefan** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:56 pm

Eighty f**king five cases

iarmhiman · Post by **iarmhiman** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:59 pm

danthefan wrote:Eighty f**king five cases

Been thinking about this. They have closed two construction sites and a factory. if it's in those clusters this may be a blip and they got most of them this evening. I'm hoping.

camroc1 · Post by **camroc1** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:04 pm

26 are in County Kildare
18 are in County Dublin
11 are in County Clare
nine are in County Laois
seven are in County Limerick
four in County Meath

Kildare, Dublin and Laois probably related ?

And also Limerick and Clare ?

iarmhiman · Post by **iarmhiman** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:06 pm

camroc1 wrote:
26 are in County Kildare
18 are in County Dublin
11 are in County Clare
nine are in County Laois
seven are in County Limerick
four in County Meath
Kildare, Dublin and Laois probably related ?

And also Limerick and Clare ?

So Dublin is those construction sites.
Kildare and possibly Laois is the factory

Where are the other 10 cases Cammy?

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm

People are mad though. A lad rang my mate the other day and said 'can't come in have very high temperature'. Now this was after a case in that workplace. So all panicked he is onto the owners and they are coming up with a plan of action and blahdy blah. About an hour after the call he heard two of the staff chatting and one of them said 'don't worry about finishing it X is collecting his computer in about 15 mins'. X being temp guy. In his wisdom he was about to come into the office and have a chin wag and get his fücking laptop. Couldn't get him on the phone and stood at the doorway and they had a stand up row

Blackrock Bullet · Post by **Blackrock Bullet** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:16 pm

iarmhiman wrote:
danthefan wrote:Eighty f**king five cases
Been thinking about this. They have closed two construction sites and a factory. if it's in those clusters this may be a blip and they got most of them this evening. I'm hoping.

Of the cases notified today:

39% of today’s cases are associated with close contacts of a confirmed case
half are associated with outbreaks

89% or so are already traced, that shows the systems are working. So long as the clusters remain managed, you can't lose it over these kinds of numbers.

A larger question needs to be asked of the recent clusters. Notably there hasn't been any cited from hairdressers, pubs, gyms etc. Another meat factory style outbreak today, in line with previous patters. Some from construction sites. Some in Direct Provision centres. It is quite safe to assume a lot of the outbreaks are amongst minorities. This isn't unique, this has happened in Singapore and is also happening in the UK. A variety of reasons I've read that are cited;

- cramped living conditions for many
- inter generational living
- car pooling
- poor communication skills, many hived off into their communities both inside and outside of work
- pressure/motivation to work: I think immigrants are going to be more motivated to work than people from here originally, it's purely anecdotal but it did not surprise me one bit that the new hires for Deliveroo/Uber Eats during the original pandemic were still minorities. They won't just sit around collecting €350, many have pressures beyond that in sending money home
- possible genetic disposition

What the answer is is unknown, possible more randomised testing in those areas of work, the last thing you want is another Leicester. Maybe that's already happening? I read some of the comments from the NPHET and whilst they did the usual and sounded the alarm, I also thought they sounded more comfortable than the other week, saying to wait and see. If they are tracking that many cases earlier on, maybe they're confident in their control infrastructure.

Conspicuous · Post by **Conspicuous** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:52 pm

I felt bad for Michael McDowell watching Prime Time tonight . What a f**king shitshow

Blackrock Bullet · Post by **Blackrock Bullet** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:09 pm

I hear the puritans on here will have been delighted with Prime Time's exposé tonight;

Absolutely embarrassing report by
@RTE_PrimeTime
, nearly cringing watching their "reporter" entrap barstaff by begging for a pint, calling out one place for only charging €3.95 for food. Serious problems in this country and they think this is important. Ridiculous.#RTEPT

jinxed · Post by **jinxed** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:16 pm

Conspicuous wrote:I felt bad for Michael McDowell watching Prime Time tonight . What a f**king shitshow

He chose a f**king stupid hill to die on.

lilyw · Post by **lilyw** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:32 pm

camroc1 wrote:
lilyw wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
HighKingLeinster wrote:Data commission now expressing privacy concerns about welfare officers questioning people in the airport
"Why did you question these people ?

I thought they were committing welfare fraud.

What lead you to that belief ?

The fact that they were."

This is getting silly now. And if the Data Commission hasn't got the good sense to butt out, the law needs to be changed to allow Welfare fraud be investigated.
The issue is that they asked all passengers on certain flights (presumably to Poland or somesuch). That is very difficult to stand up in court - it reeks of profiling rather than intelligence.
They were committing welfare fraud ! That, is a crime.

And how is that profiling, if they ask the same question of everyone on the flight ?

They're not allowed to fish. They have to have intelligence to specifically suggest that you are committing fraud before they ask the questions.

lilyw · Post by **lilyw** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:32 pm

Gavin Duffy wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
lilyw wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
HighKingLeinster wrote:Data commission now expressing privacy concerns about welfare officers questioning people in the airport
"Why did you question these people ?

I thought they were committing welfare fraud.

What lead you to that belief ?

The fact that they were."

This is getting silly now. And if the Data Commission hasn't got the good sense to butt out, the law needs to be changed to allow Welfare fraud be investigated.
The issue is that they asked all passengers on certain flights (presumably to Poland or somesuch). That is very difficult to stand up in court - it reeks of profiling rather than intelligence.
They were committing welfare fraud ! That, is a crime.
The dinner party circuit disagree.

Bless.

anonymous_joe · Post by **anonymous_joe** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 pm

jinxed wrote:
Conspicuous wrote:I felt bad for Michael McDowell watching Prime Time tonight . What a f**king shitshow
He chose a f**king stupid hill to die on.

Did he?

He came across as the most sensible person on there.

danthefan · Post by **danthefan** » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:02 am

Gemtrails finally kicked off Twitter, think that's the last platform she had. Good riddance.

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:06 am

Blackrock Bullet wrote:I hear the puritans on here will have been delighted with Prime Time's exposé tonight;

Absolutely embarrassing report by
@RTE_PrimeTime
, nearly cringing watching their "reporter" entrap barstaff by begging for a pint, calling out one place for only charging €3.95 for food. Serious problems in this country and they think this is important. Ridiculous.#RTEPT

It was a real low. Like that absolute wanker who used to go around on TV3 'exposing' consenting adults having sex parties and making out he was in the room with Jimmy Hoffa being tortured.

Conspicuous · Post by **Conspicuous** » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:11 am

anonymous_joe wrote:
jinxed wrote:
Conspicuous wrote:I felt bad for Michael McDowell watching Prime Time tonight . What a f**king shitshow
He chose a f**king stupid hill to die on.
Did he?

He came across as the most sensible person on there.

Yeah I thought so too . When he pointed out that the statues weren’t representative of slavery he had to listen to some nonsense about them signifying oppression and hierarchy because they were of black women standing outside while white people wined and dined inside. Not sure how you deal with that

MunsterMan!!!!! · Post by **MunsterMan!!!!!** » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:03 am

Neasa Hourigan and Joe O'Brien, specking rights removed for two months.

Both should be gone, if you are going to act like an independent, they should become one.

camroc1 · Post by **camroc1** » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:09 am

MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:Neasa Hourigan and Joe O'Brien, specking rights removed for two months.

Both should be gone, if you are going to act like an independent, they should become one.

The TDs are off on their holliers for 6 weeks. That should allow Martin some time to get the governments ducks in a row again.

MunsterMan!!!!! · Post by **MunsterMan!!!!!** » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:12 am

camroc1 wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:Neasa Hourigan and Joe O'Brien, specking rights removed for two months.

Both should be gone, if you are going to act like an independent, they should become one.
The TDs are off on their holliers for 6 weeks. That should allow Martin some time to get the governments ducks in a row again.

He badly needs it, he seems to be the only one there trying to keep the whole thing together.

Mullet 2 · Post by **Mullet 2** » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:26 am

I'm pretty depressed about the whole thing tbh.

anonymous_joe · Post by **anonymous_joe** » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:44 am

Mullet 2 wrote:I'm pretty depressed about the whole thing tbh.

What happened to FF's legendary discipline?