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ticketlessinseattle wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:09 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:01 pm
EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:58 pm
camroc1 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:41 pm This is contact tracing, not personal medical advice.

Surely giving a variable contract to a professional call centre would be the best route to follow ? They at least know how to manage this stuff.

They'll all be in at admin grades thus fücking up the frontline to admin ratio. The Shinners will beat that drum loudly down the line
Are the unions influencing things in the background?
they probably have someone on look out outside VoxPro's offices ; imagine if the HSE did the logical thing, put this up for tender to a bunch of call centers and see the offers they'd get back complete with KPI's, data being spat out of a CRM software system, allocation of calls to be made per staff member and team, response time, % of tickets closed out within 24 hours/48 hours ?
Initial contract 6 months, renewable either for another 6 months at same rates or on monthly notice. All tender priced.
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What's the salary they're being offered?
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South Korea have something like 100 "investigators" who are basically public health officials who lead investigations with a smaller team of 6 or 7 who handle "emergencies". So with 100 times the population, 20 or so should be able to do that here with a couple leading emergencies that will lead to blanket testing. This part of what Lambert called for, basically "SWAT" teams.

The admin people do the phone calls and take the details. You only really need 1000 of them when you have several thousand daily cases surely.

Lot of talk that they do heightened surveillance, which is true, but they have also allowed a lot more freedom. Nightclubs etc were opened. We have had more controlled environments and could have had more if we hadn't been so anal trying to be seen to do the right thing. "Okay we know by closing pubs that we will have more house parties but at least we look like we're doing it right"

The big difference there was that if someone was eating in a restaurant at the same time as someone who subsequently tested positive for Covid, they would get in touch with everyone who had been in the restaurant and they'd get tested. Remember at the start of opening up that some people were reluctant to eat out in case they came across someone who had it in the same place. That didn't come to pass as we were still really only testing people who would have been at your table. We couldn't find airborne transmission or casual contacts getting it from superspreaders as we weren't even looking for it. That's how they discovered that huge Starbucks outbreak, closed eateries and then ordered for improvements in ventilation.

And the proof is in the pudding the last few days

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... 3293730137

That's near impossible to do now but we had 20 cases or so a day over the summer with few community cases. Surprise surprise when there were meat outbreaks, we found loads of cases through blanket testing. If we had blanket tested a few other places people had been during that time and not just the "close contacts" from memory, maybe we'd be in a better spot.

And I actually wouldn't have an issue if they had desperately tried this and it just failed. But we didn't, we redeployed tracers and didn't use the testing capacity we had.
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Lads I have a horrible feeling they are going to roll this on to the flu and other diseases. This is a PH officials wet dream. Control the populace and the spread of disease and they have a scared and willing leadership and proportion of the public. I am deleting the app the mad bastards
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EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:35 pm Lads I have a horrible feeling they are going to roll this on to the flu and other diseases. This is a PH officials wet dream. Control the populace and the spread of disease and they have a scared and willing leadership and proportion of the public. I am deleting the app the mad bastards
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CM11 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:39 pm
EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:35 pm Lads I have a horrible feeling they are going to roll this on to the flu and other diseases. This is a PH officials wet dream. Control the populace and the spread of disease and they have a scared and willing leadership and proportion of the public. I am deleting the app the mad bastards
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EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:35 pm Lads I have a horrible feeling they are going to roll this on to the flu and other diseases. This is a PH officials wet dream. Control the populace and the spread of disease and they have a scared and willing leadership and proportion of the public. I am deleting the app the mad bastards
Nah, the public won't buy into flu 'cause they know there's a vaccine; as there is for all the other, children and adult, epidemic diseases we used to suffer from 60 and more years ago.

No government will close down the country when all they have to do is organise vaccination, which they are doing through pharmacies now.
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gemtrails is trending again.

Looks like she bullied an elderly man into removing his mask. All on video.
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camroc1 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:55 pm
EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:35 pm Lads I have a horrible feeling they are going to roll this on to the flu and other diseases. This is a PH officials wet dream. Control the populace and the spread of disease and they have a scared and willing leadership and proportion of the public. I am deleting the app the mad bastards
Nah, the public won't buy into flu 'cause they know there's a vaccine; as there is for all the other, children and adult, epidemic diseases we used to suffer from 60 and more years ago.

No government will close down the country when all they have to do is organise vaccination, which they are doing through pharmacies now.
I would never have believed the public here or elsewhere would do what they are doing but we live in strange times. Tony and Ro would like people with flu to self isolate. Why not make it compulsory. Why not track and trace. We have a 1000 of the fückers
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Pricks who struggle into work 'for the team' are, well, pricks to be fair.

And I'm talking about those who get good sick pay. It gets more complicated when no work means no pay.
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Since Gemma is in the news, I came across this. Really scary stuff for this poor woman.

https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home ... Bo.twitter
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MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:54 pm Since Gemma is in the news, I came across this. Really scary stuff for this poor woman.

https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home ... Bo.twitter
Poor woman. Fúcking hell, I really hate racist right wing scum like that.
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Nolanator wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:57 pm
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:54 pm Since Gemma is in the news, I came across this. Really scary stuff for this poor woman.

https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home ... Bo.twitter
Poor woman. Fúcking hell, I really hate racist right wing scum like that.
I think the ethnic irish kids go to the gael scoil as per usual these days.
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Only three dead today. I think we can all agree that's a win for Team Get off you Arse
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EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:14 pm Only three dead today. I think we can all agree that's a win for Team Get off you Arse
Tut tut.
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Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:17 pm
EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:14 pm Only three dead today. I think we can all agree that's a win for Team Get off you Arse
Tut tut.
And 1,167 new cases.......
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Ok I was a bit quick draw mcgraw praising the testing bit. I've received a second appointment for a different time and when I have tried to cancel it it says the DOB is incorrect. Oh well
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camroc1 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:22 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:17 pm
EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:14 pm Only three dead today. I think we can all agree that's a win for Team Get off you Arse
Tut tut.
And 1,167 new cases.......
Cases could stabilise or even go down but not reflect the real number of cases given contact tracing has failed.
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CM11 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:26 pm
camroc1 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:22 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:17 pm
EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:14 pm Only three dead today. I think we can all agree that's a win for Team Get off you Arse
Tut tut.
And 1,167 new cases.......
Cases could stabilise or even go down but not reflect the real number of cases given contact tracing has failed.
And don't you know people will say 'Tones fücking nailed it baby'
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CM11 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:26 pm
camroc1 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:22 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:17 pm
EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:14 pm Only three dead today. I think we can all agree that's a win for Team Get off you Arse
Tut tut.

And 1,167 new cases.......
Cases could stabilise or even go down but not reflect the real number of cases given contact tracing has failed.

If we test less, we'll get less positive cases. Then the R number will drop to 0.5
Merry Christmas everyone! 8)
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Furlong must be raging so few people died :twisted: q
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paddyor wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:00 pm https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... eath-rates

Some good news.
I don't believe it
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Hiring 1k permanent contact tracers is some cynical shit. Eager to here the justification for it from furlong and mullet.
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paddyor wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:15 pm Hiring 1k permanent contact tracers is some cynical shit. Eager to here the justification for it from furlong and mullet.
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Leinsterman wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:39 pm
CM11 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:26 pm
camroc1 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:22 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:17 pm
EverReady wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:14 pm Only three dead today. I think we can all agree that's a win for Team Get off you Arse
Tut tut.

And 1,167 new cases.......
Cases could stabilise or even go down but not reflect the real number of cases given contact tracing has failed.

If we test less, we'll get less positive cases. Then the R number will drop to 0.5
Merry Christmas everyone! 8)
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camroc1 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:38 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:36 am
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:35 am Cammy. Is that Indian takeaway in Ranelagh good? Rasoi is the name if I have spelled it correctly
Street is the new one on bird avenue you have to order before 3pm or you won’t get an delivery.
Tried to order twice, and they couldn't take it.
same here. Ended up getting Ananda
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paddyor wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:15 pm Hiring 1k permanent contact tracers is some cynical shit. Eager to here the justification for it from furlong and mullet.
What the fudge where they doing all Summer? It defies belief. And we have people telling us that level 5 is right thing to do and not to question the experts.
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I had a super Covid mate imply we should all pick a time and then sing I Won't Back Down as a shoulder to the wheel anthem. People have list their fücking minds
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That're pretty petty, ER.
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HighKingLeinster wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:40 pm Furlong must be raging so few people died :twisted: q
Don't you fúcking set them off again.
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ZappaMan wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:42 pm That're pretty petty, ER.
It’s time to move on
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rfurlong wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:19 am
CM11 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:58 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:54 am Says who stats? Duff Paddy and Stats from Planet Rugby?
Says who what? David Nabarro yesterday was asked if there is a system out there that we should look to copy to stop the spread and he point blank said East Asia. Even our own government said it was what we were trying to emulate. So why didn't we? And more importantly, when we get this under control are we going to finally start doing it?
do you really think Irish people (and the media) are going to accept that level of enforcement, personal freedom curtailment, and state emergency powers

look at the fvcking state of this place when we went to level 3 ffs ..... and we're the compliant ones :lol:
Irish restrictions are far worse than SE Asia. China caged their people in but everyone else had a few circuit breakers and generally are going about their business. Malaysia are restricting movements again but nowhere near as knickers in a knot as the bollocks coming rom the Dail.

6 weeks lockdown, no plan after that? Hope for the best and just do it again. It's a farce.
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The plan is another lockdown and then another and so forth.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:52 pm
ZappaMan wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:42 pm That're pretty petty, ER.
It’s time to move on
Don’t do me like that Zappa
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Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:11 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:52 pm
ZappaMan wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:42 pm That're pretty petty, ER.
It’s time to move on
Don’t do me like that Zappa
My Tom Pettys are shite
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Played my final Wednesday night golf of the season, come in and find all the courses dahn south are shutting for six weeks.... :x

Hope t fek Arlene doesn't follow suit.
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Bogbunny wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:24 pm Played my final Wednesday night golf of the season, come in and find all the courses dahn south are shutting for six weeks.... :x

Hope t fek Arlene doesn't follow suit.
Wednesday night golf? Did you play 1 hole?
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Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:09 pm The plan is another lockdown and then another and so forth.
Living with Covid my bollocks.
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Rumham wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:26 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:09 pm The plan is another lockdown and then another and so forth.
Living with Covid my bollocks.
It's more hiding from covid.
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