CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:22 pm
alliswell wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:50 pm
As for the union itself, the most recent ballot on industrial action from the ASTI was in February. A grand total of 4031 teachers voted in favour of industrial action. There were 5078 votes in total. There were a little less than 31,000 full time teaching posts in the country in 2020. The number of teachers would be significantly higher than that as that figure does not take into account people on job share. The number would also have increased by a good amount this year with additional staff taken on. That is a maximum figure of 13% voting for industrial action. The 4031 may also include retired teachers like my mother who still receives a ballot. They should no longer be taken seriously.
Teachers aren't engaging with the union. I believe they have little faith in the union. At this stage I believe the only way to change how the union is run is for significant numbers to leave it so those at the top cease to be paid.
Are those voting figures public knowledge? That should really be a major news story.
My own experience with teachers in my extended family is broadly the same - they see the unions as overly militant and not very representative of them.
That said, I don't the figures above are exactly earth-shattering.
According to DoE figures from last December, there are 29000 secondary school teachers in Ireland. Wikipedia claims that ASTI represent 17500 teachers. From what I know, it tends to be split by school - a school is either an ASTI or a TUI school, but not both. TUI (wiki) claims 19000 members (NB - they include further education and IoTs in their membership)
If we take the 17500 as accurate, then 5K is about 30%, which isn't a million miles from the sort of turnout you get at referenda. A lot of people just aren't that arsed voting.
The retired teacher thing is a nonsense though. I know several teachers who've told me that it is one of the main things that puts them off about the union. They're doing their job, working hard (some at least
) and the ones dominating the talking at any meetings are the retired teachers. They shouldn't have any vote or voice unless elected by members or employed by the union IMO.