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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:47 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:17 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:07 pm
DragonKhan wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:21 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:59 pm Anton Savage summed it up well “it’s like being invited to a commemoration of the day your house got burgled”
Exactly. Partition is the worst thing that happened to the North and to the Republic. They deliberately made a mistake in his title, the DUP are plum
Invite was from church leaders in Northern Ireland not the DUP
And well well well wouldn’t you know it turns out they actually addressed him by his correct title

There appears to only be one lying bigoted wee cûnt in all this and it ain’t the DUP for a change.
Link?
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Whoopsie, it seems the President is a liar
Pathetic from him.
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:00 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:56 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:55 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:51 pm
camroc1 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:47 pm Higgins declined the invitation politely.

Someone leaked that when he was on an official visit to Rome.

Various Unionist politicians suddenly became Irish constitutional experts, with Donaldson coming out with the pearler that it was a deliberate snub by the Irish government.

Higgins and Coveney clarified.

End of story.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
He said it was because they made it political and called him President of the ROI
He's a lying bigoted wee rat
Stop trying to defend it
He has damaged massively the thought that unionists would be respected in any UI
Eh recognising parition validates it and if anything undermines a future UI.

a border poll every 7 years will decide a UI not if our head of state attends the commemoration that celebrates the comolete opposite
Spin it whatever way you want
Its a snub to unionists and didnt have to be
Had he just been polite and attended it would have been a 30 second item in the news
Massive mistake and highlighted the lack of trust unionists have towards the ROI is not without merit
He would have got slaughtered down here. We have the shinners about to be our next government. Had he gone the incumbent government would have had a backlash as the shinners would have said he was advised from Government
So the ROI is now governed by fear of the shinners?
Dangerous times indeed
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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:15 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:00 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:56 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:55 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:51 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol:
He said it was because they made it political and called him President of the ROI
He's a lying bigoted wee rat
Stop trying to defend it
He has damaged massively the thought that unionists would be respected in any UI
Eh recognising parition validates it and if anything undermines a future UI.

a border poll every 7 years will decide a UI not if our head of state attends the commemoration that celebrates the comolete opposite
Spin it whatever way you want
Its a snub to unionists and didnt have to be
Had he just been polite and attended it would have been a 30 second item in the news
Massive mistake and highlighted the lack of trust unionists have towards the ROI is not without merit
He would have got slaughtered down here. We have the shinners about to be our next government. Had he gone the incumbent government would have had a backlash as the shinners would have said he was advised from Government
So the ROI is now governed by fear of the shinners?
Dangerous times indeed
Shortly will yep. They will be running yours after next elections as well
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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:56 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:55 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:51 pm
camroc1 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:47 pm Higgins declined the invitation politely.

Someone leaked that when he was on an official visit to Rome.

Various Unionist politicians suddenly became Irish constitutional experts, with Donaldson coming out with the pearler that it was a deliberate snub by the Irish government.

Higgins and Coveney clarified.

End of story.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
He said it was because they made it political and called him President of the ROI
He's a lying bigoted wee rat
Stop trying to defend it
He has damaged massively the thought that unionists would be respected in any UI
Eh recognising parition validates it and if anything undermines a future UI.

a border poll every 7 years will decide a UI not if our head of state attends the commemoration that celebrates the comolete opposite
Spin it whatever way you want
Its a snub to unionists and didnt have to be
Had he just been polite and attended it would have been a 30 second item in the news
Massive mistake and highlighted the lack of trust unionists have towards the ROI is not without merit
He easily could have made a speech to coincide with it where he set out his criticisms of partition in a polite and respectful manner. He’s a clown of a man tbf, this isn’t the first time he has into business for himself. Sadly now that this is the DUP vs Michael D, public opinion only will go one way down here.
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Who cares what title they used for him. There is no way the Irish President should go to an event commemorating the act of dividing of the country which has resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths, bloodshed and hardship.


End of.
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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:15 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:00 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:56 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:55 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:51 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol:
He said it was because they made it political and called him President of the ROI
He's a lying bigoted wee rat
Stop trying to defend it
He has damaged massively the thought that unionists would be respected in any UI
Eh recognising parition validates it and if anything undermines a future UI.

a border poll every 7 years will decide a UI not if our head of state attends the commemoration that celebrates the comolete opposite
Spin it whatever way you want
Its a snub to unionists and didnt have to be
Had he just been polite and attended it would have been a 30 second item in the news
Massive mistake and highlighted the lack of trust unionists have towards the ROI is not without merit
He would have got slaughtered down here. We have the shinners about to be our next government. Had he gone the incumbent government would have had a backlash as the shinners would have said he was advised from Government
So the ROI is now governed by fear of the shinners?
Dangerous times indeed
It is the cornerstone of politics in the Six Counties.
Watching you parrot the faux outrage of the DUP is highly entertaining.
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CM11 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:10 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:05 pm
CM11 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:24 pm He mentions recent polls too and there's still over 50% in the polls who'd be centrist/not SF. SF have hoovered up most of the fringe vote, hence their polling figures.
He mentions the recent polls but I’m not sure he studied them too carefully. You can’t put all movements since the last GE down to SF hoovering up the left and as I’ve said, the combined FF/FG/Green ( you can throw in labour too ) is considerably smaller than it wa in 2020

Poor journalism or wishful thinking, I’m not sure but I’m certainly more concerned than he is
The latest red c poll has the government at 45% and SF at 29%. With Labour and SDs that climbs to 39%. Plus SBP = 42%.

It would be far easier for the government to form a new government with those figures compared to SF, especially in light of the recent show of support from the Independents who are polling at 10%.
The argument is that SF are trending upward and are in a much stronger position to lead a government now than they were after the last GE, not that they’re now in a more advantageous position than FG . A lot will depend on how FF reacts to being decimated after the next election , if that transpires and who
they’re willing to support as a junior partner . It would probably be in their best interests to be in opposition and it will be very hard to form a government without them
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themaddog wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:09 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:15 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:00 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:56 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:55 pm

Eh recognising parition validates it and if anything undermines a future UI.

a border poll every 7 years will decide a UI not if our head of state attends the commemoration that celebrates the comolete opposite
Spin it whatever way you want
Its a snub to unionists and didnt have to be
Had he just been polite and attended it would have been a 30 second item in the news
Massive mistake and highlighted the lack of trust unionists have towards the ROI is not without merit
He would have got slaughtered down here. We have the shinners about to be our next government. Had he gone the incumbent government would have had a backlash as the shinners would have said he was advised from Government
So the ROI is now governed by fear of the shinners?
Dangerous times indeed
It is the cornerstone of politics in the Six Counties.
Watching you parrot the faux outrage of the DUP is highly entertaining.
Interesting yet somehow unexpected spin on the story from you
Somehow it was themmuns fault
Never change :lol: :lol:
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feckwanker wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:02 pm Who cares what title they used for him. There is no way the Irish President should go to an event commemorating the act of dividing of the country which has resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths, bloodshed and hardship.


End of.
Theres that hand of friendship that unionists just want to grasp hold off
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58589593

Michael D has clarified the Title bit. A simple enough explanation. Still the right decision not to go
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:o
feckwanker wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:02 pm Who cares what title they used for him. There is no way the Irish President should go to an event commemorating the act of dividing of the country which has resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths, bloodshed and hardship.


End of.
It was a religious ceremony to mark 100 years of it. That doesn’t mean you have to celebrate it. There is absolutely nothing offensive about the invitation. The end.

MDH has debased the office, bringing himself down to the level of the DUP.
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DragonKhan wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:58 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58589593

Michael D has clarified the Title bit. A simple enough explanation. Still the right decision not to go
He lied and created headlines that made the situation worse. He is a clown of a man, this is not his first go at embarrassing the country. A career marked with his snout in the trough but because he is tiny and goes to the ATM by himself he is a hero to many.
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Hey, don't forget the dogs!
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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:19 pm
themaddog wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:09 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:15 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:00 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:56 pm
Spin it whatever way you want
Its a snub to unionists and didnt have to be
Had he just been polite and attended it would have been a 30 second item in the news
Massive mistake and highlighted the lack of trust unionists have towards the ROI is not without merit
He would have got slaughtered down here. We have the shinners about to be our next government. Had he gone the incumbent government would have had a backlash as the shinners would have said he was advised from Government
So the ROI is now governed by fear of the shinners?
Dangerous times indeed
It is the cornerstone of politics in the Six Counties.
Watching you parrot the faux outrage of the DUP is highly entertaining.
Interesting yet somehow unexpected spin on the story from you
Somehow it was themmuns fault
Never change :lol: :lol:
Your ability to see things that were never said is DUPesque.
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:02 pm
It was a religious ceremony to mark 100 years of it. That doesn’t mean you have to celebrate it. There is absolutely nothing offensive about the invitation. The end.

:lol: How naive do you get
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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:07 pm
DragonKhan wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:21 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:59 pm Anton Savage summed it up well “it’s like being invited to a commemoration of the day your house got burgled”
Exactly. Partition is the worst thing that happened to the North and to the Republic. They deliberately made a mistake in his title, the DUP are plum
Invite was from church leaders in Northern Ireland not the DUP
And well well well wouldn’t you know it turns out they actually addressed him by his correct title

There appears to only be one lying bigoted wee cûnt in all this and it ain’t the DUP for a change.
You don’t exactly cover yourself in glory when engaging in this sort of toxic rhetoric, which seems to happen every time you have a difference of opinion with someone. Michael D is a lot of things but a “bigoted plum “ and a “rat” he certainly isn’t. It’s not like he’s used his presidency to attack unionism while he’s been quite clear on his well considered reasons for giving this commemoration a wide berth . Iarmhiman made a very good point about the likely backlash if he’d attended and how it would play into the hands of SF who made huge political capital from the RIC commemorations. I’m sure that influenced the president’s decision and ultimately if he was uncomfortable about the nature of the event he was correct to decline the invitation
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themaddog wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:15 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:19 pm
themaddog wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:09 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:15 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:00 pm

He would have got slaughtered down here. We have the shinners about to be our next government. Had he gone the incumbent government would have had a backlash as the shinners would have said he was advised from Government
So the ROI is now governed by fear of the shinners?
Dangerous times indeed
It is the cornerstone of politics in the Six Counties.
Watching you parrot the faux outrage of the DUP is highly entertaining.
Interesting yet somehow unexpected spin on the story from you
Somehow it was themmuns fault
Never change :lol: :lol:
Your ability to see things that were never said is DUPesque.
Are you now suggesting that he didn’t say they called him the President of the Republic of Ireland :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Conspicuous wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:25 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:07 pm
DragonKhan wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:21 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:59 pm Anton Savage summed it up well “it’s like being invited to a commemoration of the day your house got burgled”
Exactly. Partition is the worst thing that happened to the North and to the Republic. They deliberately made a mistake in his title, the DUP are plum
Invite was from church leaders in Northern Ireland not the DUP
And well well well wouldn’t you know it turns out they actually addressed him by his correct title

There appears to only be one lying bigoted wee cûnt in all this and it ain’t the DUP for a change.
You don’t exactly cover yourself in glory when engaging in this sort of toxic rhetoric, which seems to happen every time you have a difference of opinion with someone. Michael D is a lot of things but a “bigoted plum “ and a “rat” he certainly isn’t. It’s not like he’s used his presidency to attack unionism while he’s been quite clear on his well considered reasons for giving this commemoration a wide berth . Iarmhiman made a very good point about the likely backlash if he’d attended and how it would play into the hands of SF who made huge political capital from the RIC commemorations. I’m sure that influenced the president’s decision and ultimately if he was uncomfortable about the nature of the event he was correct to decline the invitation
He lied about why he declined
He made stuff up that it was a slur on his title
Had he just got the guts to come out and explain why I’d have had at least a bit more credibility for the man
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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:29 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:25 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:07 pm
DragonKhan wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:21 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:59 pm Anton Savage summed it up well “it’s like being invited to a commemoration of the day your house got burgled”
Exactly. Partition is the worst thing that happened to the North and to the Republic. They deliberately made a mistake in his title, the DUP are plum
Invite was from church leaders in Northern Ireland not the DUP
And well well well wouldn’t you know it turns out they actually addressed him by his correct title

There appears to only be one lying bigoted wee cûnt in all this and it ain’t the DUP for a change.
You don’t exactly cover yourself in glory when engaging in this sort of toxic rhetoric, which seems to happen every time you have a difference of opinion with someone. Michael D is a lot of things but a “bigoted plum “ and a “rat” he certainly isn’t. It’s not like he’s used his presidency to attack unionism while he’s been quite clear on his well considered reasons for giving this commemoration a wide berth . Iarmhiman made a very good point about the likely backlash if he’d attended and how it would play into the hands of SF who made huge political capital from the RIC commemorations. I’m sure that influenced the president’s decision and ultimately if he was uncomfortable about the nature of the event he was correct to decline the invitation
He lied about why he declined
He made stuff up that it was a slur on his title
Had he just got the guts to come out and explain why I’d have had at least a bit more credibility for the man
His track record is very good on reconciliation but unionists are looking to make political capital. Too late you're f**ked. You could have a shinner 1st minister next year. Unthinkable when you see 100 years ago it was a protestant state for a protestant people
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Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:20 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:02 pm
It was a religious ceremony to mark 100 years of it. That doesn’t mean you have to celebrate it. There is absolutely nothing offensive about the invitation. The end.

:lol: How naive do you get
Do you think QEII was celebrating here?
Queen Elizabeth II has attended a wreath-laying ceremony in Dublin’s Garden of Remembrance on the first day of her historic State visit.

In a hugely symbolic gesture reflecting a new era in relations between the countries, the British monarch bowed her head as she laid a wreath at the memorial for those who died fighting for Irish freedom, before observing a minute’s silence.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/queen-e ... e-1.876652
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:02 pm :o
feckwanker wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:02 pm Who cares what title they used for him. There is no way the Irish President should go to an event commemorating the act of dividing of the country which has resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths, bloodshed and hardship.


End of.
It was a religious ceremony to mark 100 years of it. That doesn’t mean you have to celebrate it. There is absolutely nothing offensive about the invitation. The end.

MDH has debased the office, bringing himself down to the level of the DUP.
MDH has been very small minded on this issue and has snubbed a million or more citizens on this island. I like him normally and hoped that he would be a bigger man in accepting this cross community religious invitation, but sadly couldn't step up. He has diminished his standing on the whole island.
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https://president.ie/en/media-library/s ... he-twelfth
I would like firstly to welcome each of you to Áras an Uachtaráin – and to thank you for accepting my invitation to come here to mark the “Twelfth” in this way. As you know, this is the first occasion on which the events of 1690 have been marked at Áras an Uachtaráin – and in that respect you are part of unfolding history. As with all landmark battles, there were winners and losers – histories were shaped and we were shaped by those histories. We gather today with the winners and losers – each transformed by newer historic events – and we gather as neither winners nor losers – but users of the future to craft a common home.

The history of this island is a shared history – with different sets of memories – different interpretations of events – and different perspectives on the outcomes of those events. The pages of our shared history deal with a complex set of relationships – giving accounts of the storms and calms – of the victories and defeats – and of the fortunes and misfortunes of the peoples and traditions of this island.

Today, Ireland is a vastly different place to the Ireland of 1690. The pace of change that impacted relatively slowly in the 18th and 19th centuries – has increased exponentially in this century – and particularly in the decades since the Second World War. Now we have a prosperous country – playing a full part in modern Europe – and competing with the very best in terms of commerce, education and the arts. It is very far removed from the power struggle that had such a profound impact on Europe during the Williamite Wars.

We are a forward-looking people, with a self-confidence that has allowed us to shake off the old inhibitions - and to reach out to new horizons with boldness and determination. That spirit of self-belief and self-confidence is reflected in a willingness to look at ourselves in a new light – to look afresh at the wounding and wounded aspects of our past – to accept that there were victories and defeats – but to see them as being a part of their own place and time - resting in the chronicles of history – yet echoed today in the identities and cultures of the communities that make up the tapestry of this modern country.

All over Ireland there are relics of our shared past – places and communities that cherish the historic links which are part of their identity. That is as it should be. It is important to note that this house is itself a repository of both British and Irish history – our shared history. Those who cherish their British identity and culture can find it here – just as those who seek their Irish heritage can see it reflected in its artifacts and architecture. It is particularly timely this evening to recall that it was at the former Vice Regal Lodge near Chapelizod – part of the Phoenix Park – and only a “stone’s throw” from this house – that King William of Orange came to rest a while after the Battle of the Boyne.

Tonight we are here to recognise and understand the significance of the Battle of the Boyne on our history and culture – to join together in commemorating and in marking our culture – and particularly the shared aspects of our culture. The Orange tradition – those who identify with and celebrate the victory of King William at the Boyne – are a minority in this country. But that must not and cannot take from its existence – or from our ability to co-exist with each other. The true measure of our success as a modern country – as a self-confident and mature people – with an openness to others – and a willingness to embrace diversity – is in our ability to let the past go, yet recognise the different traditions and cultures that today make up this country – share in the commemoration of their histories – accept that each has a right to their heritage – and that theirs is also part of ours – each shaping the other subtly and sometimes crudely - and each an integral part of our shared history and heritage.

This evening we have been honoured to have a mix of entertainers who have brought us a flavour of the traditions and cultures that we share. I would like to thank Different Drums for their moving and robust welcome – the Belfast Harp Orchestra for delighting us with a selection of music appropriate to this momentous occasion – Frank McGuinness for giving us an extract from his very moving and pertinent play “Observe the Sons of Ulster Marching Towards the Somme” – and Frankie Gavin for his selection of music from both traditions. I would also like to pay a particular tribute to the many people who helped us to organise this evening - especially the Dublin Wicklow Loyal Orange Lodge – the Ulster Society – and the Orange Cultural Society. Finally, I would like to thank Pamela Ballentyne who added the final professional touch to the evening.
Wow, can’t believe Mary McAleese had the gall to mark the Battle of the Boyle in 1998 with a measured speech at the Áras. What was she thinking? Does Anton Savagae have any thoughts on it?
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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:29 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:25 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:07 pm
DragonKhan wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:21 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:59 pm Anton Savage summed it up well “it’s like being invited to a commemoration of the day your house got burgled”
Exactly. Partition is the worst thing that happened to the North and to the Republic. They deliberately made a mistake in his title, the DUP are plum
Invite was from church leaders in Northern Ireland not the DUP
And well well well wouldn’t you know it turns out they actually addressed him by his correct title

There appears to only be one lying bigoted wee cûnt in all this and it ain’t the DUP for a change.
You don’t exactly cover yourself in glory when engaging in this sort of toxic rhetoric, which seems to happen every time you have a difference of opinion with someone. Michael D is a lot of things but a “bigoted plum “ and a “rat” he certainly isn’t. It’s not like he’s used his presidency to attack unionism while he’s been quite clear on his well considered reasons for giving this commemoration a wide berth . Iarmhiman made a very good point about the likely backlash if he’d attended and how it would play into the hands of SF who made huge political capital from the RIC commemorations. I’m sure that influenced the president’s decision and ultimately if he was uncomfortable about the nature of the event he was correct to decline the invitation
He lied about why he declined
He made stuff up that it was a slur on his title
Had he just got the guts to come out and explain why I’d have had at least a bit more credibility for the man
Sounds like he mixed up comments from DUP leadership with how he was addressed on the invitation. I don’t think there’s any reason to suggest he deliberately lied as it would be easily disproved. Apart from that his main issue with the event is that it’s title is focussed on the divisions created on our island rather than celebrating Northern Ireland’s achievements. He’s been pretty clear on this and whether I agree with him or not on declining the invite , I’m taking his explanation at face value
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Conspicuous wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:44 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:29 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:25 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:07 pm
DragonKhan wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:21 pm

Exactly. Partition is the worst thing that happened to the North and to the Republic. They deliberately made a mistake in his title, the DUP are plum
Invite was from church leaders in Northern Ireland not the DUP
And well well well wouldn’t you know it turns out they actually addressed him by his correct title

There appears to only be one lying bigoted wee cûnt in all this and it ain’t the DUP for a change.
You don’t exactly cover yourself in glory when engaging in this sort of toxic rhetoric, which seems to happen every time you have a difference of opinion with someone. Michael D is a lot of things but a “bigoted plum “ and a “rat” he certainly isn’t. It’s not like he’s used his presidency to attack unionism while he’s been quite clear on his well considered reasons for giving this commemoration a wide berth . Iarmhiman made a very good point about the likely backlash if he’d attended and how it would play into the hands of SF who made huge political capital from the RIC commemorations. I’m sure that influenced the president’s decision and ultimately if he was uncomfortable about the nature of the event he was correct to decline the invitation
He lied about why he declined
He made stuff up that it was a slur on his title
Had he just got the guts to come out and explain why I’d have had at least a bit more credibility for the man
Sounds like he mixed up comments from DUP leadership with how he was addressed on the invitation. I don’t think there’s any reason to suggest he deliberately lied as it would be easily disproved. Apart from that his main issue with the event is that it’s title is focussed on the divisions created on our island rather than celebrating Northern Ireland’s achievements. He’s been pretty clear on this and whether I agree with him or not on declining the invite , I’m taking his explanation at face value
He fukked up and should now go as a penance and not belittle himself.
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If we're going to have a UI some time in the future then orange marches will be a reality with the British people expressing their culture. Also marking historical events that mark British culture on the island like the Battle of the Boyne will be a reality and rightly so.

Partition on the other hand was a massive tragedy. It created a protestant state where the catholic minority didn't feel safe and were systematically discriminated against. There is nothing to commerate here. Unionists are using it celebrate the creation of a state that treated the native people of this island as 2nd class citizens. It's my opinion the president shouldn't attend and I'm glad he has chosen not to.
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:51 pm If we're going to have a UI some time in the future then orange marches will be a reality with the British people expressing their culture. Also marking historical events that mark British culture on the island like the Battle of the Boyne will be a reality and rightly so.

Partition on the other hand was a massive tragedy. It created a protestant state where the catholic minority didn't feel safe and were systematically discriminated against. There is nothing to commerate here. Unionists are using it celebrate the creation of a state that treated the native people of this island as 2nd class citizens. It's my opinion the president shouldn't attend and I'm glad he has chosen not to.
He could ironically have been the bigger man
He showed himself to be as petty as De Valera in the end
His standing has diminished in unionist circles
Compare that to how the Queen behaved when she accepted an invitation to Dublin
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How many more awful puns is Bogbunny going to inflict upon us tonight, I don’t know how much more I can take
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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:56 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:51 pm If we're going to have a UI some time in the future then orange marches will be a reality with the British people expressing their culture. Also marking historical events that mark British culture on the island like the Battle of the Boyne will be a reality and rightly so.

Partition on the other hand was a massive tragedy. It created a protestant state where the catholic minority didn't feel safe and were systematically discriminated against. There is nothing to commerate here. Unionists are using it celebrate the creation of a state that treated the native people of this island as 2nd class citizens. It's my opinion the president shouldn't attend and I'm glad he has chosen not to.
He could ironically have been the bigger man
He showed himself to be as petty as De Valera in the end
His standing has diminished in unionist circles
Compare that to how the Queen behaved when she accepted an invitation to Dublin
It's different. The Queen is told what to do and how to behave by the royal machine.

Michael D made up his own mind or so he says.
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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:56 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:51 pm If we're going to have a UI some time in the future then orange marches will be a reality with the British people expressing their culture. Also marking historical events that mark British culture on the island like the Battle of the Boyne will be a reality and rightly so.

Partition on the other hand was a massive tragedy. It created a protestant state where the catholic minority didn't feel safe and were systematically discriminated against. There is nothing to commerate here. Unionists are using it celebrate the creation of a state that treated the native people of this island as 2nd class citizens. It's my opinion the president shouldn't attend and I'm glad he has chosen not to.
He could ironically have been the bigger man
He showed himself to be as petty as De Valera in the end
His standing has diminished in unionist circles
Compare that to how the Queen behaved when she accepted an invitation to Dublin
From the people who brought us Give My Head Peace, more high quality nordie humour
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Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:58 pm How many more awful puns is Bogbunny going to inflict upon us tonight, I don’t know how much more I can take
Should Michael D have stood up for the Ulstermen?
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Say what you like about Michael D, at least he’s not shielding a paedo from being served court papers like Lizzie. To be frank I think Michael D is right not to be associated with a lowlife like that
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Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:04 pm Say what you like about Michael D, at least he’s not shielding a paedo from being served court papers like Lizzie. To be frank I think Michael D is right not to be associated with a lowlife like that
The president of you incoming majority party actually did just that
Will Michael D have nothing to do with them?
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Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:07 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:04 pm Say what you like about Michael D, at least he’s not shielding a paedo from being served court papers like Lizzie. To be frank I think Michael D is right not to be associated with a lowlife like that
The president of you incoming majority party actually did just that
Will Michael D have nothing to do with them?
I think you mean your incoming majority party.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:08 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:07 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:04 pm Say what you like about Michael D, at least he’s not shielding a paedo from being served court papers like Lizzie. To be frank I think Michael D is right not to be associated with a lowlife like that
The president of you incoming majority party actually did just that
Will Michael D have nothing to do with them?
I think you mean your incoming majority party.
Nope I definitely mean yours
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Did the President of West Germany attend the 50th anniversary of East Germany celebrations ?

Winnie, stop trying to troll, you don't have the light touch necessary.
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Anyway, speaking of Nordies, what's the betting there will be more Tyrone people in Croke Park for Garth Brooks than for last weeks AI final ?

Culchies, there's no keeping up with them !
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camroc1 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:31 pm Anyway, speaking of Nordies, what's the betting there will be more Tyrone people in Croke Park for Garth Brooks than for last weeks AI final ?

Culchies, there's no keeping up with them !
Just don't get Garth Brooks. Hate country music
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:33 pm
camroc1 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:31 pm Anyway, speaking of Nordies, what's the betting there will be more Tyrone people in Croke Park for Garth Brooks than for last weeks AI final ?

Culchies, there's no keeping up with them !
Just don't get Garth Brooks. Hate country music
Are you not from westmeath?
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camroc1 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:29 pm Did the President of West Germany attend the 50th anniversary of East Germany celebrations ?

Winnie, stop trying to troll, you don't have the light touch necessary.
You defended his response
Then slunk off when it was proven to be a lie :lol: :lol:
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Gavin Duffy wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:39 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:33 pm
camroc1 wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:31 pm Anyway, speaking of Nordies, what's the betting there will be more Tyrone people in Croke Park for Garth Brooks than for last weeks AI final ?

Culchies, there's no keeping up with them !
Just don't get Garth Brooks. Hate country music
Are you not from westmeath?
Yes your point.

Country music is mainly popular in the west and north .
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