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Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:43 am
by danthefan
At least the article is clear it's due to supply.

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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:48 am
by Mullet 2
RTÉ will report it as "Government set to miss another target"

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:05 am
by Mullet 2
I guarantee the UK has supply issues but the UK media arent reporting "Liverpool area left 15% short"

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:00 am
by Duff Paddy
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:05 am I guarantee the UK has supply issues but the UK media arent reporting "Liverpool area left 15% short"
Yep agree with that. Their media have got behind them as they needed a vaccine win after their terrible covid numbers and brexit disasters. They’ve put on the red white and blue jersey so to speak. Truth is we are doing an average job. Not as good as the best Israel, and slightly unlucky to be next door to the second best, the UK. We could do better but it’s the usual Irish “could do better” job.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:10 am
by sewa
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:05 am I guarantee the UK has supply issues but the UK media arent reporting "Liverpool area left 15% short"
Most of my English mates are in their 30's and 40's. They are all getting their first shots. Keep seeing it up on Facebook, the dirty fookers are planning their holidays and I reckon I am about a year away from getting my first shot.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:13 am
by Mullet 2
Even at 100% efficiency our programme wouldnt stack against those two because the Commission brought a knife to a gun fight

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:14 am
by Mullet 2
The missus was told to keep her phone on.

Call yesterday 3.30pm in Monday at 10am

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:37 am
by Duff Paddy
sewa wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:10 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:05 am I guarantee the UK has supply issues but the UK media arent reporting "Liverpool area left 15% short"
Most of my English mates are in their 30's and 40's. They are all getting their first shots. Keep seeing it up on Facebook, the dirty fookers are planning their holidays and I reckon I am about a year away from getting my first shot.
In Holland? Bizarre that J&J don’t have a staff scheme. Anyone, you’re at negligible risk at your age you don’t really need it.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:38 am
by camroc1
HighKingLeinster wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:36 am
EverReady wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:31 am Exactly. This is the covid and architectural musings thread
With a dash of homeless bashing. We do need something to fill the 3pm slot that was Cammys Airport Update
Allow people holidays abroad ?

It will return.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:39 am
by Duff Paddy
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:13 am Even at 100% efficiency our programme wouldnt stack against those two because the Commission brought a knife to a gun fight
True but without the commission we’d be even worse off. Truth is we’re doing okay. Not amazing but okay. When you look at it in totality we’ve had a low number of (very high median age) deaths and we’re vaccinating the high risks at a mediocre rate. The only real mistake we made was over reliance on lockdowns and a lot of businesses will not recover.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:23 pm
by DragsterDriver
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:00 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:05 am I guarantee the UK has supply issues but the UK media arent reporting "Liverpool area left 15% short"
Yep agree with that. Their media have got behind them as they needed a vaccine win after their terrible covid numbers and brexit disasters. They’ve put on the red white and blue jersey so to speak. Truth is we are doing an average job. Not as good as the best Israel, and slightly unlucky to be next door to the second best, the UK. We could do better but it’s the usual Irish “could do better” job.
It’s good you’ve moved on from the ‘single jab’ schtick.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:08 pm
by Duff Paddy
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:23 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:00 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:05 am I guarantee the UK has supply issues but the UK media arent reporting "Liverpool area left 15% short"
Yep agree with that. Their media have got behind them as they needed a vaccine win after their terrible covid numbers and brexit disasters. They’ve put on the red white and blue jersey so to speak. Truth is we are doing an average job. Not as good as the best Israel, and slightly unlucky to be next door to the second best, the UK. We could do better but it’s the usual Irish “could do better” job.
It’s good you’ve moved on from the ‘single jab’ schtick.
What Schtick was that Dr Driver? Because that post suggests you’re a bit out of your depth old chum

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:09 pm
by Mullet 2
EverReady wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:56 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:14 am The missus was told to keep her phone on.

Call yesterday 3.30pm in Monday at 10am
Citywest?
Yeah

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:30 pm
by Blackrock Bullet

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:02 pm
by Mullet 2
EverReady wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:29 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:09 pm
EverReady wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:56 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:14 am The missus was told to keep her phone on.

Call yesterday 3.30pm in Monday at 10am
Citywest?
Yeah
Small world. I've a hand in that
Giz us one

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:04 pm
by camroc1
525 cases, 3 deaths.

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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:00 pm
by goose81
camroc1 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:30 pm A comparison between the old and new personal injury awards. Something tells me most awards will be at the top of the new range.
Catastrophic injuries: quadriplegia and paraplegia and injuries resulting in shortened life expectancy, eg undiagnosed cancers or terminal illness contracted through workplace negligence.

New: Maximum general damages of €550,000
Old: Maximum general damages of €500,000

Simple undisplaced nose fracture with full recovery:
New: €500–€3,000
Old: €18,000–€22,100

Minor brain damage or head injury:
New: €500–€3,000 where there is substantial recovery within six months and €12–€25,000 where is substantial recovery in two to five years. Affecting factors include the severity of initial injury and pain.

Old: Up to €21,800 for concussion type injury where recovery results in most cases. €34,700–€60,200 for skull fracture with no loss of consciousness/minor head injuries which result in little or any disability.

Total blindess:
New: €270–€400,000
Old: No figure set, Book of Quantum says several factors need to be considered, including age, occupation, lifestyle.

Soft tissue shoulder injury
New: from €500–€12,000 depending how long it took to make a substantial recovery over a period up to two years.
Old: up to €33,500

Moderate shoulder injuries eg frozen shoulder persisting for some years
New: €18-35,000
Old: from €22,000–€60,000 for moderate sprains caused by a partial tear and where full recovery is expected. From €33,000 – €70,600 for moderate injuries requiring join manipulation, taking longer to recovery with extensive treatment but will a full recovery expected.

Eye: minor but permanent impaired vision in one eye
New: €15,000–€45,000
Old: €22,500 – €45,400

Teeth: Loss of one tooth
New: €3,500–€8,500 for one front tooth. €1,500–€3,000 for one back tooth.

Old: €10,300–€12,700 for loss of one tooth. €7,500–€10,300 for a broken tooth.

Minor back injuries:
New: From €500–€20,000 for back injuries where surgery is not necessary. Amount depends on how long it takes, over a period of some months to five years, to make a substantial recovery. Where a recovery occurs within six months, the award range is from €500–€3,000.

Old: Up to €14,800 for substantially recovered soft tissue sprain type back injuries of the type incurred in motor vehicle accidents or high impact slips/trips/falls. Up to €18,400 for minor soft tissue back injuries where a full recovery is expected. From €21,400 – €34,000 for moderate soft tissue injuries where recovery has been protracted.

Minor neck whiplash/soft tissue injuries:
New: from €500–€12,000, depending how long it takes, on a range from less than six months up to two years to make a substantial recovery.

Old: Up to €15,700 where there has been a substantial recovery. Up to €19,400 where a full recovery is expected.

Minor wrist injuries
New: €500–€3,000 when there is substantial recovery without surgery within six months; €3–10,000 for substantial recovery between six months and two years; €10–18,000 for substantial recovery within two to five years.

Old: Up to €27,800 for soft tissue wrist sprains where a full recovery within a few months is the most common outcome.


Injury or fracture of little finger
New: €500–€7,500 for a little finger injury where grip has remained impaired

Old: Up to €16,600 for simple non-displaced injury that has substantially recovered.

Minor leg injuries: eg simple fracture of femur with no other damage
New: €12–€20,000
Old: €27,700–€59,100
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... -1.4503446
These are all for PIAB afaik, anyone with a serious injury/injuries doesn't go near PIAB or PIAB will refuse to award a judgement, they did in my case anyway so has to go to high court.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:02 pm
by Gavin Duffy
I have to say, when I saw the photo for this article I assumed it was plugging an episode of reeling in the years https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/tobin ... 92366.html

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Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:09 pm
by themaddog
Gavin Duffy wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:02 pm I have to say, when I saw the photo for this article I assumed it was plugging an episode of reeling in the years https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/tobin ... 92366.html

Image
Ah Sean is a good lad. He doesn't take life too seriously.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:13 am
by Lazy Couch potato
Was just reading the RTÉ news on the commemoration of the murdered Limerick mayors in the war of independence 100yrs ago today.

Didn’t realise george Clancy the Ref was a direct descendant.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:11 am
by HighKingLeinster
Lazy Couch potato wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:13 am Was just reading the RTÉ news on the commemoration of the murdered Limerick mayors in the war of independence 100yrs ago today.

Didn’t realise george Clancy the Ref was a direct descendant.
If they were anything like Clancy then its no surprise they were murdered

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:19 am
by Duff Paddy
themaddog wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:09 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:02 pm I have to say, when I saw the photo for this article I assumed it was plugging an episode of reeling in the years https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/tobin ... 92366.html

Image
Ah Sean is a good lad. He doesn't take life too seriously.
Did very well to make a final fair play to him. We have a few young talents coming through - that Longford lad looks like he has it

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:43 am
by HighKingLeinster
Althetics people are weirdos. Loners who couldnt make it in a proper, team based sport. They're one step away from the creeps who climb clock towers with assault rifles

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:00 am
by The Sun God
camroc1 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:02 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:58 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:57 pm Davy are absolutely f**ked, don’t think they’ll make the other side of this scandal. Breakup incoming.
What they can't afford to pay that? I bet they can
Whatever about illegalities, their reputation is fúcked. Who'd be a client of a company that rips off its clients ?
7 years it has taken the CB to issue this slap on the wrist when the whole town know the details of this deal from the get go..... I see nothing has changed in the way regulation is supposed to work in Ireland when it comes to the elite. The 'new' interim CEO has been working there as deputy CEO for over two years now...... are we supposed to believe that he knew nothing of this ?.... so why is he taking over the reins ???..... When a company has been doing something for a long long time it becomes culture. Very much the case here.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:14 am
by sewa
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:37 am
sewa wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:10 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:05 am I guarantee the UK has supply issues but the UK media arent reporting "Liverpool area left 15% short"
Most of my English mates are in their 30's and 40's. They are all getting their first shots. Keep seeing it up on Facebook, the dirty fookers are planning their holidays and I reckon I am about a year away from getting my first shot.
In Holland? Bizarre that J&J don’t have a staff scheme. Anyone, you’re at negligible risk at your age you don’t really need it.
Back in the UK. Mainly contractors I worked with in NL or Tel Aviv. The company told us there is no chance of preferential treatment. Which is fair enough but a lab analyst with Covid came into one of our labs and now the whole lab are two weeks offsite in quarantine. We need them onsite for analytical transfers so it's less than ideal

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:18 am
by normilet
sewa wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:14 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:37 am
sewa wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:10 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:05 am I guarantee the UK has supply issues but the UK media arent reporting "Liverpool area left 15% short"
Most of my English mates are in their 30's and 40's. They are all getting their first shots. Keep seeing it up on Facebook, the dirty fookers are planning their holidays and I reckon I am about a year away from getting my first shot.
In Holland? Bizarre that J&J don’t have a staff scheme. Anyone, you’re at negligible risk at your age you don’t really need it.
Back in the UK. Mainly contractors I worked with in NL or Tel Aviv. The company told us there is no chance of preferential treatment. Which is fair enough but a lab analyst with Covid came into one of our labs and now the whole lab are two weeks offsite in quarantine. We need them onsite for analytical transfers so it's less than ideal
That has to be a J&J specific policy, the other vaccine makers have fairly different approaches, albeit while asking local health authorities advance permission on things.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:32 am
by themaddog
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:19 am
themaddog wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:09 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:02 pm I have to say, when I saw the photo for this article I assumed it was plugging an episode of reeling in the years https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/tobin ... 92366.html

Image
Ah Sean is a good lad. He doesn't take life too seriously.
Did very well to make a final fair play to him. We have a few young talents coming through - that Longford lad looks like he has it
McPhillips is an exceptional talent. I would have reservations about his coach. He has a reputation for burning out athletes at a young age. Hopefully he has learnt lessons over the years because he has a potential star in the making.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:45 am
by Duff Paddy
normilet wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:18 am
sewa wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:14 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:37 am
sewa wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:10 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:05 am I guarantee the UK has supply issues but the UK media arent reporting "Liverpool area left 15% short"
Most of my English mates are in their 30's and 40's. They are all getting their first shots. Keep seeing it up on Facebook, the dirty fookers are planning their holidays and I reckon I am about a year away from getting my first shot.
In Holland? Bizarre that J&J don’t have a staff scheme. Anyone, you’re at negligible risk at your age you don’t really need it.
Back in the UK. Mainly contractors I worked with in NL or Tel Aviv. The company told us there is no chance of preferential treatment. Which is fair enough but a lab analyst with Covid came into one of our labs and now the whole lab are two weeks offsite in quarantine. We need them onsite for analytical transfers so it's less than ideal
That has to be a J&J specific policy, the other vaccine makers have fairly different approaches, albeit while asking local health authorities advance permission on things.
Makes no sense really.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:35 pm
by Duff Paddy
The Sun God wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:00 am
camroc1 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:02 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:58 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:57 pm Davy are absolutely f**ked, don’t think they’ll make the other side of this scandal. Breakup incoming.
What they can't afford to pay that? I bet they can
Whatever about illegalities, their reputation is fúcked. Who'd be a client of a company that rips off its clients ?
7 years it has taken the CB to issue this slap on the wrist when the whole town know the details of this deal from the get go..... I see nothing has changed in the way regulation is supposed to work in Ireland when it comes to the elite. The 'new' interim CEO has been working there as deputy CEO for over two years now...... are we supposed to believe that he knew nothing of this ?.... so why is he taking over the reins ???..... When a company has been doing something for a long long time it becomes culture. Very much the case here.
Is there a criminal case? Hard to belief this wasn’t illegal

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:40 pm
by The Sun God
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:35 pm
The Sun God wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:00 am
camroc1 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:02 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:58 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:57 pm Davy are absolutely f**ked, don’t think they’ll make the other side of this scandal. Breakup incoming.
What they can't afford to pay that? I bet they can
Whatever about illegalities, their reputation is fúcked. Who'd be a client of a company that rips off its clients ?
7 years it has taken the CB to issue this slap on the wrist when the whole town know the details of this deal from the get go..... I see nothing has changed in the way regulation is supposed to work in Ireland when it comes to the elite. The 'new' interim CEO has been working there as deputy CEO for over two years now...... are we supposed to believe that he knew nothing of this ?.... so why is he taking over the reins ???..... When a company has been doing something for a long long time it becomes culture. Very much the case here.
Is there a criminal case? Hard to belief this wasn’t illegal
I believe there is.....Regardless of the contempt shown for MIfid regulations, which have their own penalties , there was a conspiracy to defraud IMO..... This ain't over by a long shot.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:08 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
The Sun God wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:40 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:35 pm
The Sun God wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:00 am
camroc1 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:02 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:58 pm

What they can't afford to pay that? I bet they can
Whatever about illegalities, their reputation is fúcked. Who'd be a client of a company that rips off its clients ?
7 years it has taken the CB to issue this slap on the wrist when the whole town know the details of this deal from the get go..... I see nothing has changed in the way regulation is supposed to work in Ireland when it comes to the elite. The 'new' interim CEO has been working there as deputy CEO for over two years now...... are we supposed to believe that he knew nothing of this ?.... so why is he taking over the reins ???..... When a company has been doing something for a long long time it becomes culture. Very much the case here.
Is there a criminal case? Hard to belief this wasn’t illegal
I believe there is.....Regardless of the contempt shown for MIfid regulations, which have their own penalties , there was a conspiracy to defraud IMO..... This ain't over by a long shot.
Kearney smells in all of this as well imo, don't believe the story as presented, he was paying silly fees...

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:10 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
camroc1 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:00 pm
nardol wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:58 pm EMA should make AZ jump through every single and then some for the rest of time. Can't be a coincidence AZ is British.


And for this being an EU disaster and not say the UK... in the end it will be a few weeks in the difference between lockdown easing between the UK and EU
Very much this.
in the end UK has 42% + of its population with at least one vaccine shot, EU Ireland, maybe 10% ?

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
was watching this yesterday .....I know The Economist is British and therefore bad but dont thin she's wrong....

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2021/ ... accine.cnn

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:19 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:00 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:48 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:43 pm
Nolanator wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:37 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:20 pm

??
Yeah, what's this, ER?
City west finally getting into gear as of today
"My Mother doesnt drive Joe"

Broad categories and lash it out.
I disagree. This virus really isn’t that dangerous for most groups. The initial targeted groups are the most important to get done quickly
yup, if 5% of the population account for 95% of the deaths then get them vaccinated and the rest of us can take our chances ; having said that the way the HSE operates they probably have
a better chance of getting that 5% with a blunderbuss approach

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:22 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:13 am Even at 100% efficiency our programme wouldnt stack against those two because the Commission brought a knife to a gun fight
:thumbup:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:24 pm
by camroc1
ticketlessinseattle wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:10 pm
camroc1 wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:00 pm
nardol wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:58 pm EMA should make AZ jump through every single and then some for the rest of time. Can't be a coincidence AZ is British.


And for this being an EU disaster and not say the UK... in the end it will be a few weeks in the difference between lockdown easing between the UK and EU
Very much this.
in the end UK has 42% + of its population with at least one vaccine shot, EU Ireland, maybe 10% ?
It's the first gamble on Covid that Boris has taken that has worked out though. He's already thrown the dice on sports fixtures, (remember Cheltenham) lockdowns etc. etc. and lost. It's why the UK has had 140 k deaths, at a rate 2.3 times that of Ireland.

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:24 pm
by Mullet 2
Exactly and nobody anywhere is taking a chance after hitting 5% so stay in the hole reality world the rest of us live in.

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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:31 pm
by anonymous_joe
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:35 pm
The Sun God wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:00 am
camroc1 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:02 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:58 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:57 pm Davy are absolutely f**ked, don’t think they’ll make the other side of this scandal. Breakup incoming.
What they can't afford to pay that? I bet they can
Whatever about illegalities, their reputation is fúcked. Who'd be a client of a company that rips off its clients ?
7 years it has taken the CB to issue this slap on the wrist when the whole town know the details of this deal from the get go..... I see nothing has changed in the way regulation is supposed to work in Ireland when it comes to the elite. The 'new' interim CEO has been working there as deputy CEO for over two years now...... are we supposed to believe that he knew nothing of this ?.... so why is he taking over the reins ???..... When a company has been doing something for a long long time it becomes culture. Very much the case here.
Is there a criminal case? Hard to belief this wasn’t illegal
Central Bank apparently believe they have to go for the firm first and then individuals second.

Central Bank proceedings would be parallel to DPP proceedings against the individuals. CB can go after people summarily - District Court only - for breaches of the CB Acts but nothing else.

Whether there's a Garda investigation is another matter. I said on here recently that we massively underfunded investment in white collar crime because trained professionals were too expensive. NAMA had more forensic accountants than the rest of the enforcement bodies had ever had ever, afaik. The ODCE has one, if memory serves.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pm
by The Sun God
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:08 pm
The Sun God wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:40 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:35 pm
The Sun God wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:00 am
camroc1 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:02 am

Whatever about illegalities, their reputation is fúcked. Who'd be a client of a company that rips off its clients ?
7 years it has taken the CB to issue this slap on the wrist when the whole town know the details of this deal from the get go..... I see nothing has changed in the way regulation is supposed to work in Ireland when it comes to the elite. The 'new' interim CEO has been working there as deputy CEO for over two years now...... are we supposed to believe that he knew nothing of this ?.... so why is he taking over the reins ???..... When a company has been doing something for a long long time it becomes culture. Very much the case here.
Is there a criminal case? Hard to belief this wasn’t illegal
I believe there is.....Regardless of the contempt shown for MIfid regulations, which have their own penalties , there was a conspiracy to defraud IMO..... This ain't over by a long shot.
Kearney smells in all of this as well imo, don't believe the story as presented, he was paying silly fees...
He has already sued and won. You got to remember that in 2014 there was a very niche market for these bonds but a market nonetheless. Kearney possibly believed that he needed expert help to off-load them. Unfortunately for him he chose a pair of right chancers.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:39 pm
by The Sun God
anonymous_joe wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:31 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:35 pm
The Sun God wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:00 am
camroc1 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:02 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:58 pm

What they can't afford to pay that? I bet they can
Whatever about illegalities, their reputation is fúcked. Who'd be a client of a company that rips off its clients ?
7 years it has taken the CB to issue this slap on the wrist when the whole town know the details of this deal from the get go..... I see nothing has changed in the way regulation is supposed to work in Ireland when it comes to the elite. The 'new' interim CEO has been working there as deputy CEO for over two years now...... are we supposed to believe that he knew nothing of this ?.... so why is he taking over the reins ???..... When a company has been doing something for a long long time it becomes culture. Very much the case here.
Is there a criminal case? Hard to belief this wasn’t illegal
Central Bank apparently believe they have to go for the firm first and then individuals second.

Central Bank proceedings would be parallel to DPP proceedings against the individuals. CB can go after people summarily - District Court only - for breaches of the CB Acts but nothing else.

Whether there's a Garda investigation is another matter. I said on here recently that we massively underfunded investment in white collar crime because trained professionals were too expensive. NAMA had more forensic accountants than the rest of the enforcement bodies had ever had ever, afaik. The ODCE has one, if memory serves.
AJ, what would it take for a Garda investigation to start ?