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rfurlong wrote:

paddyor wrote:

rfurlong wrote:Consent is indeed important paddyor

For the record, I don’t consent to asymptomatic, virus carrying conspiracy theorists, wandering amongst the general population unchecked, and refusing to participate in mandatory contact tracing, because of their hippy civil liberties fundamentalism.

So is it important or not important? Pick a lane.

I pick the lane of the common good

as many on here have already recognised, we are going to have to dispense with some of our first world societal constructs if we are going to beat this. Covid-19 doesn't give a fvck about your sensibilities frankly.

Getting on top of this virus as a nation, is far more important than your personal peccadilloes ...... so if you (and me) have to be tracked in order to suppress this disease, then you (and me) are going to have to suck it up in terms of invasion of privacy.

no one is suggesting we build a permanent totalitarian state ffs ..... your knee jerk reaction is embarrassing and worthy of Luke Ming Flanagan or Gemma Doherty

paddyor wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:GDPR is always a problem.

It makes a lot of sense because its genesis can be traced to countries who had secret policemen frequently spying on ordinary people. We might find that far-fetched but anybody east of the Iron Curtain wouldn't.

My limited understanding is that you can collect whatever data you want as long as you have a reason and are clear about why you are doing it. So for example they could make HCWs accept it for their own safety. A friend of mine worked in a building services group that self insured. All teh vehicles were monitored using tele or cyber or sabre matics( I can't rememebr the word). Ditto the phones to see when they were used etc. Company only lost about 1 claim in 5 years. That'd still be allowed?

Fergal Bowers
@FergalBowers
Apple and Google have said they will work together to create contact tracing technology that aims to slow the spread of the coronavirus by allowing users to opt into a system that catalogs other phones they have been near.
6:18 PM · Apr 10, 2020

fishfoodie wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:

paddyor wrote:

SF TD for Clare!

Illiterate much.

The Anti-Vaxer.

The one that caused a housing charity to have to shutdown

The one who refused to pay back the money she owed them for living rent free for years; once she got elected & got her 95k salary.

that detestable cunt ?

Duff Paddy wrote:

fishfoodie wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:

paddyor wrote:

SF TD for Clare!

Illiterate much.

The Anti-Vaxer.

The one that caused a housing charity to have to shutdown

The one who refused to pay back the money she owed them for living rent free for years; once she got elected & got her 95k salary.

that detestable cunt ?

I don’t know who to hate more - her or the people who voted her in

paddyor wrote:

Fergal Bowers
@FergalBowers
Apple and Google have said they will work together to create contact tracing technology that aims to slow the spread of the coronavirus by allowing users to opt into a system that catalogs other phones they have been near.
6:18 PM · Apr 10, 2020

George Lee
@GeorgeLeeRTE
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European Centre for Disease Control shows Ireland has 12% more confirmed cases of #COVID-19 than official press release here said. 7393 compared with 6574 here. An additional 819 cases. Who is misleading who? A bit of a mess due to German lab results. #COVIDー19 #coronavirus
George Lee
@GeorgeLeeRTE
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4h
427 Irish confirmed #COVID-19 cases received back from German labs yesterday included by mathematicians modelling pandemic but not added to the cumulative case total given to the public. Same happened Wednesday. Bad practice. Threatens credibility! #COVIDー19 #coronavirus
George Lee
@GeorgeLeeRTE
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4h
One batch of 3,257 Irish #COVID-19 swabs sent in Germany came back with 427 new confirmed cases according Dept of Health last night. So puzzling! Not included in the daily total of 500 new cases yesterday. Why not. It’s getting confusing! #COVIDー19 #coronavirus
George Lee
@GeorgeLeeRTE
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Apr 9
Results from about 17,000 #COVID-19 test swabs sent to Germany for analysis have not yet been included in total cases reported in Ireland. About 6.5% are positive. That might be another 1,000 cases - on top of the 6,074 cases reported so far. #COVIDー19 #coronavirus

paddyor wrote:1035 positive cases from the German testing. So a total of 8089 confirmed cases. If there's a further 20k cases from 13-24th March then we've probably crested the peak already.

CM11 wrote:Not sure why they wouldn't include the results noted above. Could be that they didn't want to scare people by announcing a huge surge, even if all the cases were over the course of a week. They might try and retrospectively add them to the daily totals and the delay might be sorting that out (although shouldn't actually take long).

Anyway, deaths, hospitalisation and ICU is all that's relevant

CM11 wrote:Not sure why they wouldn't include the results noted above. Could be that they didn't want to scare people by announcing a huge surge, even if all the cases were over the course of a week. They might try and retrospectively add them to the daily totals and the delay might be sorting that out (although shouldn't actually take long).

Anyway, deaths, hospitalisation and ICU is all that's relevant

paddyor wrote:

CM11 wrote:Not sure why they wouldn't include the results noted above. Could be that they didn't want to scare people by announcing a huge surge, even if all the cases were over the course of a week. They might try and retrospectively add them to the daily totals and the delay might be sorting that out (although shouldn't actually take long).

Anyway, deaths, hospitalisation and ICU is all that's relevant

I think they wanted to scare people. 80-85% of people who's tests weren't processed from 13-24th of March will already be recovered. THe serious cases will already have been hospitalised brought to ICU or died. It means the CFR is lower, the recovered cases is higher and the daily growth rate is lower. All of which is liable to make people complacent.

Leinsterman wrote:Some of George Lee's comments in those tweets are little more than rabble-rousin and give the cranks ammunition to attack the combined efforts to beat this thing.
What a sad pr1ck he is.

CM11 wrote:

paddyor wrote:

CM11 wrote:Not sure why they wouldn't include the results noted above. Could be that they didn't want to scare people by announcing a huge surge, even if all the cases were over the course of a week. They might try and retrospectively add them to the daily totals and the delay might be sorting that out (although shouldn't actually take long).

Anyway, deaths, hospitalisation and ICU is all that's relevant

I think they wanted to scare people. 80-85% of people who's tests weren't processed from 13-24th of March will already be recovered. THe serious cases will already have been hospitalised brought to ICU or died. It means the CFR is lower, the recovered cases is higher and the daily growth rate is lower. All of which is liable to make people complacent.

Daily growth higher surely? But take your point otherwise.

I didn't get very far into George Lee's twitter feed but someone made the point that the ECDC stats were from today while he was comparing to yesterday's total, which referenced mostly the day before.

paddyor wrote:

CM11 wrote:

paddyor wrote:

CM11 wrote:Not sure why they wouldn't include the results noted above. Could be that they didn't want to scare people by announcing a huge surge, even if all the cases were over the course of a week. They might try and retrospectively add them to the daily totals and the delay might be sorting that out (although shouldn't actually take long).

Anyway, deaths, hospitalisation and ICU is all that's relevant

I think they wanted to scare people. 80-85% of people who's tests weren't processed from 13-24th of March will already be recovered. THe serious cases will already have been hospitalised brought to ICU or died. It means the CFR is lower, the recovered cases is higher and the daily growth rate is lower. All of which is liable to make people complacent.

Daily growth higher surely? But take your point otherwise.

I didn't get very far into George Lee's twitter feed but someone made the point that the ECDC stats were from today while he was comparing to yesterday's total, which referenced mostly the day before.

No, most of these tests are over 2-4 weeks old now. So 480/7k > 480/8k. Suppose there's another 1-2k in positive cases in the rest of the German test results then the daily growth rate is less again.

CM11 wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:Eerie experience in my estate today. An elderly neighbour died this morning from a long term illness early this morning.
Message sent to the neighbourhood via WhatsApp mid morning.
Hearse arrived soon after
Neighbourhood all stood at their gates mid afternoon as the priest arrived to say a few prayers in the middle of the street.
Body loaded into the hearse and gone a few minutes later to the crematorium.
Everyone dispersed and that was it...
Guess this is going to happen quite a lot for the next while.
That's at least 3 Covid-19 deaths in the last week and another 2 or 3 deaths on top of that.

There was a non- covid19 death down the road from us during the week.
Same thing as you describe but one old lady lit a candle in her front window. Curtain caught fire. She's now in hospital for smoke inhalation.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/pre ... 18189.html

Gavin Duffy wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:Some of George Lee's comments in those tweets are little more than rabble-rousin and give the cranks ammunition to attack the combined efforts to beat this thing.
What a sad pr1ck he is.

His efforts at covering the pandemic have been shockingly poor. I wonder if he has some sort of underlying issue himself?

Gavin Duffy wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:

fishfoodie wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:

paddyor wrote:

SF TD for Clare!

Illiterate much.

The Anti-Vaxer.

The one that caused a housing charity to have to shutdown

The one who refused to pay back the money she owed them for living rent free for years; once she got elected & got her 95k salary.

that detestable cunt ?

I don’t know who to hate more - her or the people who voted her in

I'd go with the people who voted her in. Voted for 'Brand SF' in (you would hope) near total ignorance like the ignorant sheeple they are.

Leinsterman wrote:Some of George Lee's comments in those tweets are little more than rabble-rousin and give the cranks ammunition to attack the combined efforts to beat this thing.
What a sad pr1ck he is.

Gavin Duffy wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:Some of George Lee's comments in those tweets are little more than rabble-rousin and give the cranks ammunition to attack the combined efforts to beat this thing.
What a sad pr1ck he is.

His efforts at covering the pandemic have been shockingly poor. I wonder if he has some sort of underlying issue himself?

paddyor wrote:

Fergal Bowers
@FergalBowers
Apple and Google have said they will work together to create contact tracing technology that aims to slow the spread of the coronavirus by allowing users to opt into a system that catalogs other phones they have been near.
6:18 PM · Apr 10, 2020

CM11 wrote:Median age 75 for the deaths today.

Including test results which have been sent to Germany for testing (which may include tests from older cases) the total figure of those who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland now stands at 8089.

CM11 wrote:I see USIT has gone into liquidation.

Leinsterman wrote:

CM11 wrote:I see USIT has gone into liquidation.

How many times is that now?

Leinsterman wrote:

paddyor wrote:

Fergal Bowers
@FergalBowers
Apple and Google have said they will work together to create contact tracing technology that aims to slow the spread of the coronavirus by allowing users to opt into a system that catalogs other phones they have been near.
6:18 PM · Apr 10, 2020

Just to add, this should be available in 6 weeks.

Gavin Duffy wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:Some of George Lee's comments in those tweets are little more than rabble-rousin and give the cranks ammunition to attack the combined efforts to beat this thing.
What a sad pr1ck he is.

His efforts at covering the pandemic have been shockingly poor. I wonder if he has some sort of underlying issue himself?

iarmhiman wrote:Lost respect for George once he went into politics and found the going too tough after all his political editor expertise with RTE. Of course he returned with his tail between his legs. Have no time for him.