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DragsterDriver wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Strong indications that construction will restart on or about the 5th, albeit at a reduced level of intensity and likely to be staggered by sector.

From a selfish perspective, constructing kicking off would be great news.

Is it safe though?

Judging by the horror stories I've heard about sanitary conditions on some large sites, I'd wonder.

My FIL PMs some small scale construction work and he's been scratching his head as to how it can be done safely.

It can't, simple as that. It's a sacrifice to save the economies with a bit of herd immunity thrown in.

You’d think the average bloke on a building site - breakfast roll every morning, big gut, heavy smoker - might not be the safest bet

Taking a shit in a communal bucket and not washing their hands. What could possibly go wrong?

Leinsterman wrote:Taking a shit in a communal bucket and not washing their hands. What could possibly go wrong?

In all seriousness if one good things comes from this it will hopefully be that Irish lads start washing their f**king hands after going for a piss in the pub

Duff Paddy wrote:

DragsterDriver wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Strong indications that construction will restart on or about the 5th, albeit at a reduced level of intensity and likely to be staggered by sector.

From a selfish perspective, constructing kicking off would be great news.

Is it safe though?

Judging by the horror stories I've heard about sanitary conditions on some large sites, I'd wonder.

My FIL PMs some small scale construction work and he's been scratching his head as to how it can be done safely.

It can't, simple as that. It's a sacrifice to save the economies with a bit of herd immunity thrown in.

You’d think the average bloke on a building site - breakfast roll every morning, big gut, heavy smoker - might not be the safest bet

Aren't the smokers faring better with the virus?

Big sites tend to be younger fitter blokes who get lazy and fat later in life on domestic work, but generally speaking they're all disposable.

Duff Paddy wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:Taking a shit in a communal bucket and not washing their hands. What could possibly go wrong?

In all seriousness if one good things comes from this it will hopefully be that Irish lads start washing their f**king hands after going for a piss in the pub

It'll make the peanuts on the bar taste different for sure.

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Strong indications that construction will restart on or about the 5th, albeit at a reduced level of intensity and likely to be staggered by sector.

From a selfish perspective, constructing kicking off would be great news.

Is it safe though?

According to Holohan, R0 is between 0.8 and 0.5 in the community, which means it's safe, so long as all contacts of any future case can be traced and tested.

Leinsterman wrote:Taking a shit in a communal bucket and not washing their hands. What could possibly go wrong?

Any site using a communal bucket, unless that's your description of a chemical toilet, would be closed down. Most urban sites would be connected to the main drains in any case.

The Sun God wrote: In fairness, without getting into an economic history lesson with you, it has always been a country of haves and havenots, it just wasn't as patently obvious years back.Today you have 21% of American children living in poverty, the number was no different 40 years ago.

The poverty in parts of New York , when I moved there in the early '80s, made parts of Mumbai look smart. It was a cúnty city full of cúnts, which is why I loved it. Sure there are great people over there, most are but US society is an endurance test and millions are happy to buy into it , every graduating season.

my eldest still lives there and although she loves coming to Dublin or down to France, I don't ever see her leaving NY...... I hope i'm wrong.

There's a good book by Amity Shales on the Great Society and the War on Poverty...it failed

Having a passport and from living there, I could move back. I had the option and was considering it. The other half is American as well and we half committed - in reality we have both taken a considerable pay cut to live here, with taxes also a few percent higher here. There was considerable shock at our taxes when the first pay slip was received. People go on about salaries here but there is no comparison - you can add 50%-200% for your salary at the same point in big American cities if you are 3 or 4 years into your career vs. Ireland. Whilst rent is expensive, it is also expensive here - we just don't get bang for our buck here with more limited options. Access to owning houses there is also far easier in my view, and middle class houses are far better.

The point AJ mentions on college is the big one. That is the ponzi scheme. I met a lot of people there with mediocre degrees from mediocre State schools and liberal arts colleges working in glorified customer service roles and $100k-$150k of debt. My GF is lucky to have gotten a scholarship to a very good school but still took on some debt for living expenses. I wouldn't want that around my neck, easier access to housing notwithstanding.

The price of education is what shifts it for me at the moment. Ireland has an excellent education system all the way up that is affordable. Dublin is great city to live in all round, as are many American cities. I'd rank rural Ireland and even some ghastly towns in Ireland over Middle America, with Dave and Busters as my local, or bumfuck nowhere in Alabama.

The US college debt system is likely on it's last legs in my opinion, there were signs before this with small schools going bust and it will only get worse. They can't justify the prices of some schools.

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Strong indications that construction will restart on or about the 5th, albeit at a reduced level of intensity and likely to be staggered by sector.

From a selfish perspective, constructing kicking off would be great news.

Is it safe though?

There's building next door to me.

The developer has obviously paid the Polish construction lads to move in there, they're working away during the day.

Duff Paddy wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:Taking a shit in a communal bucket and not washing their hands. What could possibly go wrong?

In all seriousness if one good things comes from this it will hopefully be that Irish lads start washing their f**king hands after going for a piss in the pub

A good chunk of the people in my office don't do that, never mind with a few pints on them.

danthefan wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:Taking a shit in a communal bucket and not washing their hands. What could possibly go wrong?

In all seriousness if one good things comes from this it will hopefully be that Irish lads start washing their f**king hands after going for a piss in the pub

A good chunk of the people in my office don't do that, never mind with a few pints on them.

f**king filthy animals

Yeah I've noticed the same once or twice and it's not just after taking a piss as well

Jesus, all these feckers who obviously piss on their hands !

If it's one of those poos that doesn't need a wipe, then you're grand to not wash your hands.

camroc1 wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Strong indications that construction will restart on or about the 5th, albeit at a reduced level of intensity and likely to be staggered by sector.

From a selfish perspective, constructing kicking off would be great news.

Is it safe though?

According to Holohan, R0 is between 0.8 and 0.5 in the community, which means it's safe, so long as all contacts of any future case can be traced and tested.

That's now with us all locked down. What will it be after restrictions are lifted?

Some kunt in a neighbouring house just spent a couple of minutes blowing a vuvuzela as part of the clap for the NHS.

Are they still doing that every Thursday?

Skanger new neighbours two doors down at the end of the road now having regular "chin wags" in the driveway with relatives who drive over. Not being careful enough at all.
Well I'm watching you scumbags, you don't know it but I'm watching, recording, noting.

Nolanator wrote:Some kunt in a neighbouring house just spent a couple of minutes blowing a vuvuzela as part of the clap for the NHS.

They're still doing that?

Leinsterman wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Strong indications that construction will restart on or about the 5th, albeit at a reduced level of intensity and likely to be staggered by sector.

From a selfish perspective, constructing kicking off would be great news.

Is it safe though?

Judging by the horror stories I've heard about sanitary conditions on some large sites, I'd wonder.

My FIL PMs some small scale construction work and he's been scratching his head as to how it can be done safely.

That's why it'll be slow paced and by sector. The more outdoor, plant based stuff will be fairly ok once issues like canteens and bogs are properly thought though.

I see in Ontario, instead of shutting down construction they abolished time and date constraints i.e. you could work 24/7 to facilitate shift work to enable better physical distancing and they also abolished nighttime noise limits.

Leinsterman wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Strong indications that construction will restart on or about the 5th, albeit at a reduced level of intensity and likely to be staggered by sector.

From a selfish perspective, constructing kicking off would be great news.

Is it safe though?

Judging by the horror stories I've heard about sanitary conditions on some large sites, I'd wonder.

My FIL PMs some small scale construction work and he's been scratching his head as to how it can be done safely.

Aye, there's an awful lot of people talking about construction as though they're a bunch of boyscouts doing wholesome work in the outdoors. It's all a bit muscular Christianity the way they're talking.

Not hungover lads packed together painting, installing wiring, etc.

Blackrock Bullet wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Strong indications that construction will restart on or about the 5th, albeit at a reduced level of intensity and likely to be staggered by sector.

From a selfish perspective, constructing kicking off would be great news.

Is it safe though?

There's building next door to me.

The developer has obviously paid the Polish construction lads to move in there, they're working away during the day.

Somebody I'm suing may be doing that. We're deeply suspicious about their site.

Uncle Fester wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Strong indications that construction will restart on or about the 5th, albeit at a reduced level of intensity and likely to be staggered by sector.

From a selfish perspective, constructing kicking off would be great news.

Is it safe though?

According to Holohan, R0 is between 0.8 and 0.5 in the community, which means it's safe, so long as all contacts of any future case can be traced and tested.

That's now with us all locked down. What will it be after restrictions are lifted?

That is what trace and test will find out Fester.

Guaranteed there will be people on here moaning and bitching about the contact tracing plans that will shortly be announced

We are looking at surveillance on a mass scale ..... if you test positive, the authorities (incl. HSE, Gardai etc) will track your movements over previous 2 weeks .... via your phone, your bank card purchases, your vehicle telemetry etc etc

Civil liberties ireland will be up in arms for starters

rfurlong wrote:Guaranteed there will be people on here moaning and bitching about the contact tracing plans that will shortly be announced

We are looking at surveillance on a mass scale ..... if you test positive, the authorities (incl. HSE, Gardai etc) will track your movements over previous 2 weeks .... via your phone, your bank card purchases, your vehicle telemetry etc etc

Civil liberties ireland will be up in arms for starters

Well, I think we know two names who'll be all over it!

In some ways they might actually help as not many will want to be associated with them.

I've no problem with those types of measures being brought in but they have to be time limited and reviewed every few months.

Keeps me in a job

Leinsterman wrote:Portland Maine for strippers or breweries?

Absolutely breweries. That's my wife's hometown. I'd love if it also had a few titty bars to help me get through the days visiting in laws.

We are at the embassy next week to get the newest arrivals passport. If their efficient state department also loses it's lustre then I don't see the point of the place.

And they charge non residents tax! Fcuk that and the horse they rode in on.

Duff Paddy wrote:

CM11 wrote:To add, the measure in terms of the greater society is hospitalisation and that's decreasing. Also Holohan has said our R0 has gone as low as 0.5. They're not very worried about community transmission in the 'wild' currently.

Right let’s start slowly unwinding the restrictions so. We need to get back to work

It can't continue beyond the end of next week, globally.

We know a lot more now to allow things to begin moving.

Duff Paddy wrote:

Leinsterman wrote:Taking a shit in a communal bucket and not washing their hands. What could possibly go wrong?

In all seriousness if one good things comes from this it will hopefully be that Irish lads start washing their f**king hands after going for a piss in the pub

You guys are gross


And for those asking: yes, 8pm on Thursday we still applaud the NHS every week. At this stage it's more about a social structure - all very British.
Apart from the nutters setting off fireworks instead of applauding...

I had no idea it was a Thursday thing.

I had no idea that it's Thursday, for that matter.

Nolanator wrote:I had no idea it was a Thursday thing.

I had no idea that it's Thursday, for that matter.

It's all blending into one.

So today is Thursday then I take it ?

EverReady wrote:Applauding workers like that in an attempt to hide your derisory initial efforts where your PM gave himself covid like a mad giddy spastic is a bit ghey.

How’d your break from PR go ?

EverReady wrote:

Conspicuous wrote:So today is Thursday then I take it ?

It's bin day. Of course it is Thursday. And tomorrow is big shop and last teachering day which is Friday. Everyday has its purpose

That's a good point, bins were this morning.
However, my downstairs neighbours were kind enough to put both sets out, again. Like every week.

Nolanator wrote:

EverReady wrote:

Conspicuous wrote:So today is Thursday then I take it ?

It's bin day. Of course it is Thursday. And tomorrow is big shop and last teachering day which is Friday. Everyday has its purpose

That's a good point, bins were this morning.
However, my downstairs neighbours were kind enough to put both sets out, again. Like every week.

Cheers lads totally forgot about the green bin to be left out tonight

EverReady wrote:

Nolanator wrote:

EverReady wrote:

Conspicuous wrote:So today is Thursday then I take it ?

It's bin day. Of course it is Thursday. And tomorrow is big shop and last teachering day which is Friday. Everyday has its purpose

That's a good point, bins were this morning.
However, my downstairs neighbours were kind enough to put both sets out, again. Like every week.

Nice. My neighbour always cuts my side of the hedge in the front and I do the back. It's unspoken and never discussed

I'm my case they put their own stuff in my bins because they're a couple with a kid, I'm by myself. I don't produce that much waste.
It really grinds my gears when I find non-recyclables in the blue bin though. How f**king difficult is it to figure out that styrofoam packaging isn't recyclable?

My wife keeps putting soft plastics in the recycling bin . In fairness she knows they’re not supposed to go there she just does it to annoy me

Who’s organizing the dublin cabal once the plug gets pulled on this place?

Hopefully it won’t be via zoom ....

Mullet I owe you a parting glass at this stage ..... ditto cammy, statto, nols, ER, TSG and all the rest of you spanners

Been here over 21 yrs but don’t think I’ll be migrating to any new location

I see Trump has finally gone over the edge.

rfurlong wrote:Who’s organizing the dublin cabal once the plug gets pulled on this place?

Hopefully it won’t be via zoom ....

Mullet I owe you a parting glass at this stage ..... ditto cammy, statto, nols, ER, TSG and all the rest of you spanners

Been here over 21 yrs but don’t think I’ll be migrating to any new location

I give it a day, maybe two, before everyone is logging in to the new place.

In fairness, home is where you hang your hat.