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Floppykid wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

I agree with Statto, given they're supporters are fairly drunk on populism it's as likely they'd get returned due to covid letting them off the hook.

They'd use it as an opportunity to pursue a mental nationalisation programme.

Floppykid wrote:

danthefan wrote:

Floppykid wrote:

EverReady wrote:

HighKingLeinster wrote:I need creches to open asap.

On a separate note, watching Mary Lou on the Late Late talking about having Covid. It obviously didnt affect her appetite

I read a comment that said something like 'it didn't affect her appetite to form a government though did it'. Anyway where are the rest of the Shinners bar that absolute scaldy Louise something or other

Smiley smiley Eoin bleats a bit now and then on twitter.
Violet Anne had another social media episode.

What now?

https://www.clareecho.ie/wynne-hits-out ... line-rant/

Hope she continues as she's started. At some stage the professional press will go through her for a shortcut.

Anyway, it's moot for the moment as it looks like we will get a FF/FG government.

So how do they balance getting enough revenue to pay for getting the economy back on track with the need to remain as competitive as possible in a worldwide recession?

We've shown we can bounce back very well before but at a cost to those lower down the food chain that will not fly this time around. Any temporary tax will end up permanent more than likely. Who do we tax and how?

Whatever about Mary lou I've put on about 7 kilos.

Fúck it anyway, ER.

I'm off to make a Paella for dinner, which if it remains warm enough we'll eat in the garden, and follow it with several bottles.

EverReady wrote:Times have changed Cammy. People just discount what they don't want to hear now. It really is an utter shit show. Masses of people commenting on IT articles that they wouldn't read in a month of Sundays bar the odd Una and Kitty one that reminds them their life choices like being a DJ in Tipp during Covid is Leo's fault.

Undergrads moaning on twitter they can't get a job/house with their journalism degree.
Yeah that's Leo's fault alright.

Floppykid wrote:

EverReady wrote:Times have changed Cammy. People just discount what they don't want to hear now. It really is an utter shit show. Masses of people commenting on IT articles that they wouldn't read in a month of Sundays bar the odd Una and Kitty one that reminds them their life choices like being a DJ in Tipp during Covid is Leo's fault.

Undergrads moaning on twitter they can't get a job/house with their journalism degree.
Yeah that's Leo's fault alright.

The 23/24 year olds whinging about how badly they have it are the absolute worst. People a decade older came out of college in the teeth of the 2008/9/10 recession. Go back another generation, to the likes of our and their parents, and they were making do in the 80s when Ireland was a backwater. ALLLLL I'VE KNOWN IS HARSHIIIPPPPPPPP. Get f**king real you idiots.

danthefan wrote:

Floppykid wrote:

EverReady wrote:Times have changed Cammy. People just discount what they don't want to hear now. It really is an utter shit show. Masses of people commenting on IT articles that they wouldn't read in a month of Sundays bar the odd Una and Kitty one that reminds them their life choices like being a DJ in Tipp during Covid is Leo's fault.

Undergrads moaning on twitter they can't get a job/house with their journalism degree.
Yeah that's Leo's fault alright.

The 23/24 year olds whinging about how badly they have it are the absolute worst. People a decade older came out of college in the teeth of the 2008/9/10 recession. Go back another generation, to the likes of our and their parents, and they were making do in the 80s when Ireland was a backwater. ALLLLL I'VE KNOWN IS HARSHIIIPPPPPPPP. Get f**king real you idiots.

I can't believe FG are closing down the Bernard Shaw! The eatyard!

danthefan wrote:

Floppykid wrote:

EverReady wrote:Times have changed Cammy. People just discount what they don't want to hear now. It really is an utter shit show. Masses of people commenting on IT articles that they wouldn't read in a month of Sundays bar the odd Una and Kitty one that reminds them their life choices like being a DJ in Tipp during Covid is Leo's fault.

Undergrads moaning on twitter they can't get a job/house with their journalism degree.
Yeah that's Leo's fault alright.

The 23/24 year olds whinging about how badly they have it are the absolute worst. People a decade older came out of college in the teeth of the 2008/9/10 recession. Go back another generation, to the likes of our and their parents, and they were making do in the 80s when Ireland was a backwater. ALLLLL I'VE KNOWN IS HARSHIIIPPPPPPPP. Get f**king real you idiots.

Us, you mean?

It's people who finished college in 2004-6 that must really have been hit hard. Had started earning and spending before the shit hit and then probably lost their jobs, while still having huge outgoings.

Floppykid wrote:

danthefan wrote:

Floppykid wrote:

EverReady wrote:Times have changed Cammy. People just discount what they don't want to hear now. It really is an utter shit show. Masses of people commenting on IT articles that they wouldn't read in a month of Sundays bar the odd Una and Kitty one that reminds them their life choices like being a DJ in Tipp during Covid is Leo's fault.

Undergrads moaning on twitter they can't get a job/house with their journalism degree.
Yeah that's Leo's fault alright.

The 23/24 year olds whinging about how badly they have it are the absolute worst. People a decade older came out of college in the teeth of the 2008/9/10 recession. Go back another generation, to the likes of our and their parents, and they were making do in the 80s when Ireland was a backwater. ALLLLL I'VE KNOWN IS HARSHIIIPPPPPPPP. Get f**king real you idiots.

I can't believe FG are closing down the Bernard Shaw! The eatyard!

It's a part of our (plastic, celtic tiger I) heritage dating all the way back to 2006.

EverReady wrote:Sociopaths was how I heard Leo and Micheál described online earlier with all the likes and associated nonsense. Staying offline makes no difference either as they still go at it. You can't challenge them as they harass you. I wish I was born back in more innocent times like when they had the plague but no Instagram

The vitriol is pretty intense alright, SF are riding/representing that way of spite and vitriol well.

Here's the thing though. You HAVE to challenge the cnuts.

Moreso IRL as opposed to online. Admittedly, given the circles I tend to move in, I wouldn't be cheek to jowl with truckloads of shinners which makes the job of letting the few I do meet know exactly what I think of their horseshit if they spout it, somewhat easier.

But they need to be called on it, otherwise they sail on, with the truly delusional among them utterly convinced they are in a majority but most if them believing that they have a silent majority behind them.

Call them on it. Each and every time. Only way.

boringperson12 wrote:One of the interesting things I had heard a scientist say on the radio was how many people entered lockdown before it was actually officially announced and before any deadlines were announced - could possibly be a problem if the reverse happens people start behaving in the way a week or two early, unless it has already been modelled in.

Was about to say exactly this.
In the absence of a clear plan laid out in advance, people will make it up themselves and the state will be playing catch up.

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

Uncle Fester wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

The coming depression will sort that out, but weaker rents will probably be matched be reduced incomes so that affordability mightn't be that much improved. You have to wonder what's going to happen this time around as the opportunity to emigrate is going to be off the board for quite some time I feel.

Gavin Duffy wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

The coming depression will sort that out, but weaker rents will probably be matched be reduced incomes so that affordability mightn't be that much improved. You have to wonder what's going to happen this time around as the opportunity to emigrate is going to be off the board for quite some time I feel.

This will make things hugely interesting right enough.

CM11 wrote: This.

And again, what countries announced a plan 3 weeks before the end of lockdown?

What’s 3 weeks?

Other countries have put forward road maps. Our Minister for Health floated some stuff in the papers and are now talking to people as they are children. The peak passed several weeks ago now in true infections, people aren’t idiots and they can see the hospitals are fine for capacity.

At some point you have to be honest, what level of Covid will agree to live with in society?

Mullet 2 wrote:I would be shocked if the numbers don't pick up again next week.

Because of what? Your bizarre fetishising of total lockdown?

Blackrock Bullet wrote:

CM11 wrote: This.

And again, what countries announced a plan 3 weeks before the end of lockdown?

What’s 3 weeks?

Other countries have put forward road maps. Our Minister for Health floated some stuff in the papers and are now talking to people as they are children. The peak passed several weeks ago now in true infections, people aren’t idiots and they can see the hospitals are fine for capacity.

At some point you have to be honest, what level of Covid will agree to live with in society?

Yeah entirely sensible to have a plan that is clearly communicated to people. I think the Kiwis and the Belgians both have clear levels of step down. The reason that people are not taking the lockdown seriously is because they are fed up and there is no end in sight. It’s understandable.

Uncle Fester wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

Do you want it for free or something? Stepaside is a really nice place I’d happily live there. Bizarre post to be honest.

Blackrock Bullet wrote:

CM11 wrote: This.

And again, what countries announced a plan 3 weeks before the end of lockdown?

What’s 3 weeks?

Other countries have put forward road maps. Our Minister for Health floated some stuff in the papers and are now talking to people as they are children. The peak passed several weeks ago now in true infections, people aren’t idiots and they can see the hospitals are fine for capacity.

At some point you have to be honest, what level of Covid will agree to live with in society?

Varadkar has said the plan will be forthcoming at the start of the week, over a week before the end of lockdown. Most countries have informed their population 7-10 days ahead of restrictions being lifted. Not 2-3 weeks ahead of time.

Nolanator wrote:

danthefan wrote:

Floppykid wrote:

EverReady wrote:Times have changed Cammy. People just discount what they don't want to hear now. It really is an utter shit show. Masses of people commenting on IT articles that they wouldn't read in a month of Sundays bar the odd Una and Kitty one that reminds them their life choices like being a DJ in Tipp during Covid is Leo's fault.

Undergrads moaning on twitter they can't get a job/house with their journalism degree.
Yeah that's Leo's fault alright.

The 23/24 year olds whinging about how badly they have it are the absolute worst. People a decade older came out of college in the teeth of the 2008/9/10 recession. Go back another generation, to the likes of our and their parents, and they were making do in the 80s when Ireland was a backwater. ALLLLL I'VE KNOWN IS HARSHIIIPPPPPPPP. Get f**king real you idiots.

Us, you mean?

It's people who finished college in 2004-6 that must really have been hit hard. Had started earning and spending before the shit hit and then probably lost their jobs, while still having huge outgoings.

Yeah exactly, us. I went into college during the Celtic Tiger and came out with the country f**ked. I was pretty lucky to get my first professional job and they paid minimum wage. But it got me going and I'm doing alright now. Whinging about it wasn't going to f**king do me any good.

CM11 wrote:

Blackrock Bullet wrote:

CM11 wrote: This.

And again, what countries announced a plan 3 weeks before the end of lockdown?

What’s 3 weeks?

Other countries have put forward road maps. Our Minister for Health floated some stuff in the papers and are now talking to people as they are children. The peak passed several weeks ago now in true infections, people aren’t idiots and they can see the hospitals are fine for capacity.

At some point you have to be honest, what level of Covid will agree to live with in society?

Varadkar has said the plan will be forthcoming at the start of the week, over a week before the end of lockdown. Most countries have informed their population 7-10 days ahead of restrictions being lifted. Not 2-3 weeks ahead of time.

Yup.

There does seem to be a 7 day choreography being utilised across many countries - EU at any rate - on notifications on restrictions; both tightening/loosening.

Gavin Duffy wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

The coming depression will sort that out, but weaker rents will probably be matched be reduced incomes so that affordability mightn't be that much improved. You have to wonder what's going to happen this time around as the opportunity to emigrate is going to be off the board for quite some time I feel.

Paddyor made the point that rents were starting to ease off a bit at start of year before any of this happened and I'd be inclined to agree so we could end up with another yo-yo swing.

Duff Paddy wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

Do you want it for free or something? Stepaside is a really nice place I’d happily live there. Bizarre post to be honest.

It's a lotta lotta money for not a lot of apartment or local amenities.

Duff Paddy wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

Do you want it for free or something? Stepaside is a really nice place I’d happily live there. Bizarre post to be honest.

Stepaside is grand but it’s a big off the beaten track . You’re looking at a long bus commute ( no other public transport options) if you’re working in city centre.

Uncle Fester wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

Do you want it for free or something? Stepaside is a really nice place I’d happily live there. Bizarre post to be honest.

It's a lotta lotta money for not a lot of apartment or local amenities.

As usual you no fvck all. 15 mins walk at most to luas, spitting distance to dundrum, 10 seconds to dublin mountains. Belarmine is too large but has ok facilities. The rest of the housing in the area is lovely. One good restaurant and one nice family one in the village along with good butchers and fish shop. Pub is cack tbf.

And 8590 pitch and putts

Conspicuous wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

Do you want it for free or something? Stepaside is a really nice place I’d happily live there. Bizarre post to be honest.

Stepaside is grand but it’s a big off the beaten track . You’re looking at a long bus commute ( no other public transport options) if you’re working in city centre.

15 min walk to the luas which is then less than 30 to stephens green

Near the luas, right beside ticknock, easy access into wicklow - depends on your perspective I suppose.

HighKingLeinster wrote:

Conspicuous wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

Do you want it for free or something? Stepaside is a really nice place I’d happily live there. Bizarre post to be honest.

Stepaside is grand but it’s a big off the beaten track . You’re looking at a long bus commute ( no other public transport options) if you’re working in city centre.

15 min walk to the luas which is then less than 30 to stephens green

You’re probably shaving a bit of time off both them journeys tbf

Anyway, think the point was that we’re a long way off rents dropping in areas that are within a short commute of the city .

Google saying a 20 min walk, so that's 15.

Then 28 mins on Luas.

CM11 wrote:Google saying a 20 min walk, so that's 15.

Then 28 mins on Luas.

Stick that up your gee Conspic

If you live on the green line you're golden. I'm near enough the other end and it's a gift.

HighKingLeinster wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

EverReady wrote:I disagree. It will either put them in the position where they have to form one or weaken them. The alternative is clearly worse. FG and FF are not going to be rewarded for this

If they can get housing and accomodation sorted so that you're not paying 1500 a month to live in a 2 bed in fücking Stepaside, I'd expect them to receive some credit.

Do you want it for free or something? Stepaside is a really nice place I’d happily live there. Bizarre post to be honest.

It's a lotta lotta money for not a lot of apartment or local amenities.

As usual you no fvck all. 15 mins walk at most to luas, spitting distance to dundrum, 10 seconds to dublin mountains. Belarmine is too large but has ok facilities. The rest of the housing in the area is lovely. One good restaurant and one nice family one in the village along with good butchers and fish shop. Pub is cack tbf.

And 8590 pitch and putts

Grand if you've kids but if you're young and living there because you can't afford closer to the city, it's a bit dull and very out of the way.

Don't live there then. Imagine satellite towns like Bray or Swords etc are similar price range but have more going on in terms of pubs and nightlife etc

What do you mean I can’t have a 3 bed in Ranelagh for €500 a month, this country is a kip

danthefan wrote:

Nolanator wrote:

danthefan wrote:

Floppykid wrote:

EverReady wrote:Times have changed Cammy. People just discount what they don't want to hear now. It really is an utter shit show. Masses of people commenting on IT articles that they wouldn't read in a month of Sundays bar the odd Una and Kitty one that reminds them their life choices like being a DJ in Tipp during Covid is Leo's fault.

Undergrads moaning on twitter they can't get a job/house with their journalism degree.
Yeah that's Leo's fault alright.

The 23/24 year olds whinging about how badly they have it are the absolute worst. People a decade older came out of college in the teeth of the 2008/9/10 recession. Go back another generation, to the likes of our and their parents, and they were making do in the 80s when Ireland was a backwater. ALLLLL I'VE KNOWN IS HARSHIIIPPPPPPPP. Get f**king real you idiots.

Us, you mean?

It's people who finished college in 2004-6 that must really have been hit hard. Had started earning and spending before the shit hit and then probably lost their jobs, while still having huge outgoings.

Yeah exactly, us. I went into college during the Celtic Tiger and came out with the country f**ked. I was pretty lucky to get my first professional job and they paid minimum wage. But it got me going and I'm doing alright now. Whinging about it wasn't going to f**king do me any good.

I finished Uni in 2005. Dot com boom had ended and there were no jobs in my field. All the jobs were in construction. I started out in a call centre until 2006 when i started in cellular network engineering. Worked on a salary of €19,000. It was like doing an apprenticeship even after an honours degree in electronic engineering. Got my break a year later and ended up with a good company and still with them now.

I remember in 2006 chatting to my friend who was an electrician. Told him would he work for 19k a year. He said hed make that in 3 months. He lost his job in the crash.

I was lucky, TBF. Finished in 2010 and then spent another 4 years doing a PhD, so I was never job hunting through the worst of it.

When I started my undergrad all my friends in engineering wanted to do civil. By the time I'd finished, the arse had fallen out of that course.

Stepaside Dull?

You’ve never tried a bit of stabby sex then?