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Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:26 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
paddyor wrote:Image
anyone else think there was some lad sitting in an office today that realised his sum function in excel didn't calc properly.....that would be a painful walk to the boss's office

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:27 pm
by nardol
Wait.. What's this? :shock:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:35 pm
by lilyw
boringperson12 wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:So why have other countries been able to get back to school so quickly?
Probably don't have as many plums moaning on Twitter.
That's the same question as why did Sweden go differently? or why did Germany open up before us?.....

It's an irrelevant question. We have to take decisions based on our circumstances, not those of anywhere else.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:37 pm
by Lazy Couch potato
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:What is it with meat plants anyway?
Brazilians acting the prick. Heard of two 2 bed apartments in a small town where there was supposed to be 6 lads living. HSE went in to test and big standoff until Guards called. They found 26 lads living there.
To a lesser extend this was also the issue in many of the nursing homes. Foreign agency staff , perhaps not as illegal as the meat factory lads but being tested and then not isolating....being kept working by owners. Especially considering the poor English of many. Lots of the illegals in the meat factories wouldn’t be able to apply for the covid payment. No work no pay

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:50 pm
by camroc1
ticketlessinseattle wrote:
paddyor wrote:Image
anyone else think there was some lad sitting in an office today that realised his sum function in excel didn't calc properly.....that would be a painful walk to the boss's office
They all relate to a single hospital, so you mightn't be far wrong.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:08 pm
by Hellraiser
Lazy Couch potato wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:What is it with meat plants anyway?
Brazilians acting the prick. Heard of two 2 bed apartments in a small town where there was supposed to be 6 lads living. HSE went in to test and big standoff until Guards called. They found 26 lads living there.
To a lesser extend this was also the issue in many of the nursing homes. Foreign agency staff , perhaps not as illegal as the meat factory lads but being tested and then not isolating....being kept working by owners. Especially considering the poor English of many. Lots of the illegals in the meat factories wouldn’t be able to apply for the covid payment. No work no pay

Fúck them, pricks tried to defraud the Revenue of €4m in Covid payments.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:19 pm
by HighKingLeinster
Lads could whomever posted the link to the UK stats on covid post it again?

Cant find it

Edit never mind, found it

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:46 pm
by CM11
https://m.independent.ie/world-news/cor ... 06430.html

Reading between the lines, NPHET refused to accept the HSE couldn't do 100k a week/didn't want to wait until they figured out they could so went ahead and forced their hand. Lo and behold, we're nearly at that capacity.

Alan Kelly is living up to his rep by being a right prick during all this trying to stir shit unnecessarily just to look important.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:57 pm
by camroc1
CM11 wrote:https://m.independent.ie/world-news/cor ... 06430.html

Reading between the lines, NPHET refused to accept the HSE couldn't do 100k a week/didn't want to wait until they figured out they could so went ahead and forced their hand. Lo and behold, we're nearly at that capacity.

Alan Kelly is living up to his rep by being a right prick during all this trying to stir shit unnecessarily just to look important.
Harris put him back in his box though.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:10 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
CM11 wrote:https://m.independent.ie/world-news/cor ... 06430.html

Reading between the lines, NPHET refused to accept the HSE couldn't do 100k a week/didn't want to wait until they figured out they could so went ahead and forced their hand. Lo and behold, we're nearly at that capacity.

Alan Kelly is living up to his rep by being a right prick during all this trying to stir shit unnecessarily just to look important.
Doing his job in opposition? :uhoh:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:11 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
EverReady wrote:Kelly has been great for Labour
He's doing a good job so far, he's got his head into the detail of all of this and is asking good questions, unlike SF.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:12 pm
by Hellraiser
EverReady wrote:Kelly has been great for Labour

Hopefully he'll manage to pull some votes back from SF.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:21 pm
by CM11
Blackrock Bullet wrote:
CM11 wrote:https://m.independent.ie/world-news/cor ... 06430.html

Reading between the lines, NPHET refused to accept the HSE couldn't do 100k a week/didn't want to wait until they figured out they could so went ahead and forced their hand. Lo and behold, we're nearly at that capacity.

Alan Kelly is living up to his rep by being a right prick during all this trying to stir shit unnecessarily just to look important.
Doing his job in opposition? :uhoh:
Shit stirring is the job of the opposition? What constructive criticism has he come up with? What has he achieved with his shit stirring?

You might even forgive him his line of questioning if he didn't try to sensationalise it.

But fair enough if he brings SF voters back to Labour. I hadn't considered that angle. Lesser of two evils (Kelly being the evil, not Labour, tbf).

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:23 pm
by Nolanator
Hellraiser wrote:
EverReady wrote:Kelly has been great for Labour

Hopefully he'll manage to pull some votes back from SF.
Are they fat enough left?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:40 pm
by camroc1
EverReady wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Hellraiser wrote:
EverReady wrote:Kelly has been great for Labour

Hopefully he'll manage to pull some votes back from SF.
Are they fat enough left?
Harsh on Mary Lou
Not really.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:46 pm
by Uncle Fester
Nolanator wrote:
Floppykid wrote:I hate wfh really.
Find it so much harder to focus.
Same. Find it very hard to get into the frame of mind to just focus on work. Lack of discipline, I guess, not really surprising to me, TBH.
I think it's great but not when you have a four year old tugging at your sleeve screaming "plaaaaayyyyyyy wiiiiiith meeeeeeeeee".

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:52 pm
by Leinsterman
Nolanator wrote: Same. Find it very hard to get into the frame of mind to just focus on work. Lack of discipline, I guess, not really surprising to me, TBH.
Do you find yourself playing with your pipette a bit too much when you're working from home?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:58 pm
by Nolanator
EverReady wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Hellraiser wrote:
EverReady wrote:Kelly has been great for Labour

Hopefully he'll manage to pull some votes back from SF.
Are they fat enough left?
Harsh on Mary Lou
:lol:
Shit!

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:58 pm
by camroc1
Tony Holohan not a happy camper. Someone is in deep doo-doo.
The National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet) is investigating whether all hospitals have fully reported cases of Covid-19 after it emerged that one has reported hundreds of cases late.

Chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan said his group had only just learned of the reporting omission and was trying to establish the full facts.

He declined to say whether there would be consequences for the hospital - the prompt reporting of Covid-19 is a legal requirement - and admitted he did not know whether the contacts of the cases involved had been traced.

The late-reported cases account for more than half of the 426 new cases of the disease reported by Nphet on Thursday. Discounting these cases, the underlying trend shows a continuing decline in new case numbers.

The deaths of another 10 patients were announced by Nphet at its briefing on Thursday. There have now been 1,506 Covid-19 related deaths in the Republic. The total number of cases is now 23,827.

Many of the cases reported late by the hospital date back to mid-March but have only just been notified to the Health Protection Surveillance Centre, Dr Holohan said.

“They were accumulated, we weren’t aware of them, and they were reported in one group today to add to the number we would have diagnosed over the course of the day.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4253804

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:02 pm
by camroc1
Uncle Fester wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Floppykid wrote:I hate wfh really.
Find it so much harder to focus.
Same. Find it very hard to get into the frame of mind to just focus on work. Lack of discipline, I guess, not really surprising to me, TBH.
I think it's great but not when you have a four year old tugging at your sleeve screaming "plaaaaayyyyyyy wiiiiiith meeeeeeeeee".
.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:07 pm
by paddyor
Lazy Couch potato wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:What is it with meat plants anyway?
Brazilians acting the prick. Heard of two 2 bed apartments in a small town where there was supposed to be 6 lads living. HSE went in to test and big standoff until Guards called. They found 26 lads living there.
To a lesser extend this was also the issue in many of the nursing homes. Foreign agency staff , perhaps not as illegal as the meat factory lads but being tested and then not isolating....being kept working by owners. Especially considering the poor English of many. Lots of the illegals in the meat factories wouldn’t be able to apply for the covid payment. No work no pay
What?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:24 pm
by Duff Paddy
camroc1 wrote:Tony Holohan not a happy camper. Someone is in deep doo-doo.
The National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet) is investigating whether all hospitals have fully reported cases of Covid-19 after it emerged that one has reported hundreds of cases late.

Chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan said his group had only just learned of the reporting omission and was trying to establish the full facts.

He declined to say whether there would be consequences for the hospital - the prompt reporting of Covid-19 is a legal requirement - and admitted he did not know whether the contacts of the cases involved had been traced.

The late-reported cases account for more than half of the 426 new cases of the disease reported by Nphet on Thursday. Discounting these cases, the underlying trend shows a continuing decline in new case numbers.

The deaths of another 10 patients were announced by Nphet at its briefing on Thursday. There have now been 1,506 Covid-19 related deaths in the Republic. The total number of cases is now 23,827.

Many of the cases reported late by the hospital date back to mid-March but have only just been notified to the Health Protection Surveillance Centre, Dr Holohan said.

“They were accumulated, we weren’t aware of them, and they were reported in one group today to add to the number we would have diagnosed over the course of the day.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4253804
Comment under the article - this is the level of stupidity out there
An investigation to what authority and who will be answerable to whatever findings that are found to be wrong....? Women were given misleading results from critical cervical smears and died from negligent diagnosis.
The HSE are an absolute National disgrace and are unanswerable to anyone. They might as well be a cartel

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:27 pm
by Duff Paddy
Clueless eejit angry at the establishment over something he doesn’t understand wants to broadcast his ignorance on social media. Just screams Sinn Fein voter doesn’t it.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:27 pm
by camroc1
Now backed up by the opinion of those well known oncologists in the Supreme Court, Duff.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:31 pm
by Duff Paddy
camroc1 wrote:Now backed up by the opinion of those well known oncologists in the Supreme Court, Duff.
And the majority of our media who shamefully went along with it as it gave them an angle to stir up misplaced outrage at the HSE and the Government

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:37 pm
by Liathroidigloine
Lazy Couch potato wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:What is it with meat plants anyway?
Brazilians acting the prick. Heard of two 2 bed apartments in a small town where there was supposed to be 6 lads living. HSE went in to test and big standoff until Guards called. They found 26 lads living there.
To a lesser extend this was also the issue in many of the nursing homes. Foreign agency staff , perhaps not as illegal as the meat factory lads but being tested and then not isolating....being kept working by owners. Especially considering the poor English of many. Lots of the illegals in the meat factories wouldn’t be able to apply for the covid payment. No work no pay
I don’t believe for one second that factory employers would look to cover up infected employees. I know two of the owners of factories effected and this allegation is so much bullshit. Lads might have covered up for themselves the same way that we pretended not to be hungover back in the day but the suggestion that the owners got lads to go to work who were infected with COVID is 5g mental.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:44 pm
by Lazy Couch potato
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Lazy Couch potato wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:What is it with meat plants anyway?
Brazilians acting the prick. Heard of two 2 bed apartments in a small town where there was supposed to be 6 lads living. HSE went in to test and big standoff until Guards called. They found 26 lads living there.
To a lesser extend this was also the issue in many of the nursing homes. Foreign agency staff , perhaps not as illegal as the meat factory lads but being tested and then not isolating....being kept working by owners. Especially considering the poor English of many. Lots of the illegals in the meat factories wouldn’t be able to apply for the covid payment. No work no pay
I don’t believe for one second that factory employers would look to cover up infected employees. I know two of the owners of factories effected and this allegation is so much bullshit. Lads might have covered up for themselves the same way that we pretended not to be hungover back in the day but the suggestion that the owners got lads to go to work who were infected with COVID is 5g mental.
Have heard that from people involved in tracing. And brother is a vet and he’d tell you plenty stories bout the factories. No engleeeeeze speakie. There’s plenty of cowboys. Hear no evil see no evil. Especially if you’ve loads of illegals working

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:14 pm
by rfurlong
Floppykid wrote:I hate wfh really.
Find it so much harder to focus.
It would be deadly if the kids were in school ..... I was doing a bit of it before covid (mostly to avoid 2 x 1-hour commutes across Dublin on wet winter days), and productivity is pretty high when you don’t have people landing in on top of you unannounced

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:15 pm
by Liathroidigloine
I worked in meat factories from a very young age. Maybe things have changed with the influx of foreign lads but back then they were great jobs for permanent lads and especially summer workers. The Vets were really strict, I remember one of them clocking a lad who gave a bit of lip and he was backed up fully by the factory when the union looked to start a row. But maybe things have changed, I still don’t think there’s any way that owners would let sick employees work.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:53 pm
by Floppykid
https://twitter.com/KevinVesey/status/1 ... 7598808065

Policy voters I'm sure. :uhoh:
Please God let Biden win in Nov.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:14 am
by camroc1
Floppykid wrote:https://twitter.com/KevinVesey/status/1 ... 7598808065

Policy voters I'm sure. :uhoh:
Please God let Biden win in Nov.
If Trump doesn't listen to his PH officials, Biden will win easily in November. Unfortunately the US will have had covid go mad beforehand.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:33 am
by Floppykid
camroc1 wrote:
Floppykid wrote:https://twitter.com/KevinVesey/status/1 ... 7598808065

Policy voters I'm sure. :uhoh:
Please God let Biden win in Nov.
If Trump doesn't listen to his PH officials, Biden will win easily in November. Unfortunately the US will have had covid go mad beforehand.
He's doing well across the board, but who knows what happens between now and Nov.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:38 am
by alliswell
Yanks have very different values to us. They'll wear a couple of hundred thousand dead and it'll be a close race because the country is insane

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:43 am
by MrBunhead
How representative is that group?

You could have gotten the same comments from GOD and her mates during the week.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:04 am
by paddyor
Lazy Couch potato wrote:Have heard that from people involved in tracing. And brother is a vet and he’d tell you plenty stories bout the factories. No engleeeeeze speakie. There’s plenty of cowboys. Hear no evil see no evil. Especially if you’ve loads of illegals working
Why hire illegal when you can get legal for the same price?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:40 am
by rfurlong
Anyone else find it slightly galling that "state aid" and fair competition crusader Margarethe Vestager, has absolutely nothing to say about former flag carriers like Lufthansa and Air France, hoovering up billions in emergency aid and tax rebates from various EU governments?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:16 am
by The Sun God
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:What is it with meat plants anyway?
Brazilians acting the prick. Heard of two 2 bed apartments in a small town where there was supposed to be 6 lads living. HSE went in to test and big standoff until Guards called. They found 26 lads living there.
I am guessing that Ella McSweeny must have missed that little detail.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... s-covid-19

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:20 am
by danthefan
I've complained about them many times on this thread already but there are 10-12 Brazilians living in the house next door to me, there are 2 adults and 2 kids in my house and the house feels full.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:23 am
by Liathroidigloine
The Sun God wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:What is it with meat plants anyway?
Brazilians acting the prick. Heard of two 2 bed apartments in a small town where there was supposed to be 6 lads living. HSE went in to test and big standoff until Guards called. They found 26 lads living there.
I am guessing that Ella McSweeny must have missed that little detail.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... s-covid-19
It’s a really weird article as it reads like a vegan advert. Meat plants are refrigerated. Who’d have thunk? There’s blood in meat factories. Wow. Animals are killed humanely. It’s a bullshit article by someone who I’d have always thought was reasonable on ETTG. Maybe the auld cash is drying up and she’s going after a new market.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:17 am
by Lazy Couch potato
Liathroidigloine wrote:I worked in meat factories from a very young age. Maybe things have changed with the influx of foreign lads but back then they were great jobs for permanent lads and especially summer workers. The Vets were really strict, I remember one of them clocking a lad who gave a bit of lip and he was backed up fully by the factory when the union looked to start a row. But maybe things have changed, I still don’t think there’s any way that owners would let sick employees work.
I’m a farmers son. Ive dropped off cattle more than once. It’s hard real hard physical labour on the boning floor. Great money obviously but not along term job. Lads bodies fingers wrists don’t hold up past 10 years. As I said brother is a vet (but doesn’t do meet factories ). Suspicions of the foreign lads working after hours during normal times was his opinion in some factories.
We have a zoom quiz with my buddies twice a week during this madness. Buddy who traces had told us of ringing nursing homes and then factories to get workers who should be at home isolating With positive results. On multiple occasions He’s not a bullshitter. The stories about the nursing homes was the phone number given to gp to contact these workers was the nursing home owner....tracers ring to give positive result. Next tracer rings to get the list of people they’re in contact with. Twas all the same number.......phonecall screened to owner. He said he was getting very pissed off telling these people to go home ta fudge. Owners were terrified of being shut down due to lack of staff.