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camroc1 wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:You mean when they went "Jimmy, it's raining a good bit. Would you open up the valves as much as you can please without flooding Cork city?"
"Hopefully it'll stop raining and the levels will come back down again"

And then 3 weeks later, it wasn't enough and they faced the choice of flooding the city or losing the dam completely.

You mean that they didn't foresee the unforeseeable ?

Typical Fester hindsight shitehawkery.

What is the primary purpose of the ESB dam, Fester ?

If you read the judgment you'd notice that the ESB took a responsibility to manage flooding levels in the Lee off their own bat.

Mullet 2 wrote:https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/p ... 52610.html

And just like that we're back.

As TSG said on the other forum, it explains why they've been quiet on the matter.

anonymous_joe wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:You mean when they went "Jimmy, it's raining a good bit. Would you open up the valves as much as you can please without flooding Cork city?"
"Hopefully it'll stop raining and the levels will come back down again"

And then 3 weeks later, it wasn't enough and they faced the choice of flooding the city or losing the dam completely.

You mean that they didn't foresee the unforeseeable ?

Typical Fester hindsight shitehawkery.

What is the primary purpose of the ESB dam, Fester ?

If you read the judgment you'd notice that the ESB took a responsibility to manage flooding levels in the Lee off their own bat.

Does manage mean never allow a river to flood?

Or does your thick as shit profession think it can order rivers to stop doing exactly what they're supposed to do?

Mullet 2 wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:You mean when they went "Jimmy, it's raining a good bit. Would you open up the valves as much as you can please without flooding Cork city?"
"Hopefully it'll stop raining and the levels will come back down again"

And then 3 weeks later, it wasn't enough and they faced the choice of flooding the city or losing the dam completely.

You mean that they didn't foresee the unforeseeable ?

Typical Fester hindsight shitehawkery.

What is the primary purpose of the ESB dam, Fester ?

If you read the judgment you'd notice that the ESB took a responsibility to manage flooding levels in the Lee off their own bat.

Does manage mean never allow a river to flood?

Or does your thick as shit profession think it can order rivers to stop doing exactly what they're supposed to do?

Christ, the sheer ignorance.

I know

Haven't read the judgement yet, but it was a split decision I note.

anonymous_joe wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:You mean when they went "Jimmy, it's raining a good bit. Would you open up the valves as much as you can please without flooding Cork city?"
"Hopefully it'll stop raining and the levels will come back down again"

And then 3 weeks later, it wasn't enough and they faced the choice of flooding the city or losing the dam completely.

You mean that they didn't foresee the unforeseeable ?

Typical Fester hindsight shitehawkery.

What is the primary purpose of the ESB dam, Fester ?

If you read the judgment you'd notice that the ESB took a responsibility to manage flooding levels in the Lee off their own bat.

And the Judges sat, Canute like, ordering nature to obey their laws.

Gavin Duffy wrote:Haven't read the judgement yet, but it was a split decision I note.

Yup.

O'Donnell J said ESB shouldn't be responsible for an act of nature. His dissent wasn't published last night, so I haven't read it.

The other four disagreed.

camroc1 wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:You mean when they went "Jimmy, it's raining a good bit. Would you open up the valves as much as you can please without flooding Cork city?"
"Hopefully it'll stop raining and the levels will come back down again"

And then 3 weeks later, it wasn't enough and they faced the choice of flooding the city or losing the dam completely.

You mean that they didn't foresee the unforeseeable ?

Typical Fester hindsight shitehawkery.

What is the primary purpose of the ESB dam, Fester ?

If you read the judgment you'd notice that the ESB took a responsibility to manage flooding levels in the Lee off their own bat.

And the Judges sat, Canute like, ordering nature to obey their laws.

Where did they do that? Which paragraph of which judgment?

Liathroidigloine wrote:

Mullet 2 wrote:

CarrotGawks wrote:That's about right, the level of intellectual inquiry here maxes out at South Park. They should really do an episode about obnoxious bar bores. "You see, the problem with..."

"I read a wonderful novel about homosexuality in the 40s..."

Fúck off you pretentious spa

The sooner I can retire to some non woke country the better. I can't really handle this shit any more.

I hear Russia is nice

CM11 wrote:

Mullet 2 wrote:https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/p ... 52610.html

And just like that we're back.

As TSG said on the other forum, it explains why they've been quiet on the matter.

Just struck me that there's a stark difference between the headlines. Almost as if the Indo wanted people who only scan headlines to jump to the conclusion that it was another FF TD

camroc1 wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:You mean when they went "Jimmy, it's raining a good bit. Would you open up the valves as much as you can please without flooding Cork city?"
"Hopefully it'll stop raining and the levels will come back down again"

And then 3 weeks later, it wasn't enough and they faced the choice of flooding the city or losing the dam completely.

You mean that they didn't foresee the unforeseeable ?

Typical Fester hindsight shitehawkery.

What is the primary purpose of the ESB dam, Fester ?

If you read the judgment you'd notice that the ESB took a responsibility to manage flooding levels in the Lee off their own bat.

And the Judges sat, Canute like, ordering nature to obey their laws.

It’s the same mindset as the award for the “dangerous” railway sleeper footpath in the Wicklow mountains. It is a deeply rotten system that leaches off accidents and misfortune and attempts to apportion blame and compensation awards when neither are appropriate

He seems a bit misunderstood.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buc ... olitician)

“ Buckley received a three-year drink-driving ban and was fined €500 in December 2014 following an incident on 9 June 2013 when he was stopped while driving by Gardaí.[6] Subsequent tests showed that Buckley was over three times above the permitted blood-alcohol level. Buckley stated after his conviction, "as a SF public representative I regret my actions and my choice to drive after drink."[7]

Buckley pleaded guilty before Midleton District Court in May 2018 to being drunk and to engaging in threatening and abusive behaviour to a Garda in the course of his duty.[8] His guilty plea was related to an incident which occurred at Buckley's home in August 2017 following a noise complaint. Responding officers were told to "fudge off" by Buckley who has stated that he was under the influence of alcohol and deeply regrets his behavior”

Pillars of the community, salt of the earth dontcha' know

Leinsterman wrote:Pillars of the community, salt of the earth dontcha' know

Probably a very woke bloke alright.

Mullet 2 wrote:https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/p ... 52610.html

And just like that we're back.

Joe Flaherty will be in real bother next time out in Longford/Westmeath. I'd say he's praying that this "temporary little arrangement" last's 5 years.

ticketlessinseattle wrote:

Liathroidigloine wrote:

Mullet 2 wrote:

CarrotGawks wrote:That's about right, the level of intellectual inquiry here maxes out at South Park. They should really do an episode about obnoxious bar bores. "You see, the problem with..."

"I read a wonderful novel about homosexuality in the 40s..."

Fúck off you pretentious spa

The sooner I can retire to some non woke country the better. I can't really handle this shit any more.

I hear Russia is nice

Nah, needs to be warmer. Some of those towns in the South of France would be decent. Get involved in the local rugby club. That sort of thing.

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Haven't read the judgement yet, but it was a split decision I note.

Yup.

O'Donnell J said ESB shouldn't be responsible for an act of nature. His dissent wasn't published last night, so I haven't read it.

The other four disagreed.

The other 4 disagreed that a corporate entity shouldn’t be responsible for an act of nature?

What are they, fvcking morons?

What next? Sue the HSE for catching covid?

rfurlong wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Haven't read the judgement yet, but it was a split decision I note.

Yup.

O'Donnell J said ESB shouldn't be responsible for an act of nature. His dissent wasn't published last night, so I haven't read it.

The other four disagreed.

The other 4 disagreed that a corporate entity shouldn’t be responsible for an act of nature?

What are they, fvcking morons?

What next? Sue the HSE for catching covid?

Haven't read much law before, have you?

An act of nature does not obviate any duty of care if it's reasonably foreseeable.

Taking the example of a river - which all people know are prone to flooding - you could find negligence in any of the following:-

- Building in a flood-plain;
- Building in a manner which is more prone to flooding;
- Using the wrong materials;
- Failure to construct drains;
- Etc, etc.

If we were to take your complaint at face value, speeding on ice isn't negligent as ice is an act of nature.

Floppykid wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-53335074

Seems a bit excessive if the campus will mostly be closed. Suppose they need those overseas student fees to survive.

Presumably all the students will be tested and quarantined on arrival, so probably not the riskiest undertaking.

AJ, just to clarify on speeding... do you mean over 10KPH?

anonymous_joe wrote:

rfurlong wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Haven't read the judgement yet, but it was a split decision I note.

Yup.

O'Donnell J said ESB shouldn't be responsible for an act of nature. His dissent wasn't published last night, so I haven't read it.

The other four disagreed.

The other 4 disagreed that a corporate entity shouldn’t be responsible for an act of nature?

What are they, fvcking morons?

What next? Sue the HSE for catching covid?

Haven't read much law before, have you?

An act of nature does not obviate any duty of care if it's reasonably foreseeable.

Taking the example of a river - which all people know are prone to flooding - you could find negligence in any of the following:-

- Building in a flood-plain;
- Building in a manner which is more prone to flooding;
- Using the wrong materials;
- Failure to construct drains;
- Etc, etc.

If we were to take your complaint at face value, speeding on ice isn't negligent as ice is an act of nature.

And what negligence are your learned colleagues alleging from ESB then?

UCC shouldn't have built in an area prone to flooding so ESB should pay them.

And you should get full all for falling on ice while I'm at it. You greedy blood sucking bastards.

Floppykid wrote:https://twitter.com/deanobyrne10/status ... 5991830530

Wow, a thread of vermin right there.
"He killed me ma cos cancer"
"All he did was read out stuff"

So either he does something or he doesn't.

How many jobs in the responses?

Im going for 3

rfurlong wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Haven't read the judgement yet, but it was a split decision I note.

Yup.

O'Donnell J said ESB shouldn't be responsible for an act of nature. His dissent wasn't published last night, so I haven't read it.

The other four disagreed.

The other 4 disagreed that a corporate entity shouldn’t be responsible for an act of nature?

What are they, fvcking morons?

What next? Sue the HSE for catching covid?

Don’t give them any ideas for fudge sake

And we think we have a corruption problem in Ireland:

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/statu ... 33793?s=08

I got a bit bored but is that saying they gave 1/4bn pounds to someone connected with the tender process for doing nothing? Or did they at least get some masks in return?

CM11 wrote:I got a bit bored but is that saying they gave 1/4bn pounds to someone connected with the tender process for doing nothing? Or did they at least get some masks in return?

Basically massive Tory corruption scam - they gave PPE contracts worth hundreds of millions of pounds to dodgy companies with no assets and no history of supplying PPE. The usual opaque company structures washed through tax havens and they all will inevitably lead back to Tory party donors.

Duff Paddy wrote:

CM11 wrote:I got a bit bored but is that saying they gave 1/4bn pounds to someone connected with the tender process for doing nothing? Or did they at least get some masks in return?

Basically massive Tory corruption scam - they gave PPE contracts worth hundreds of millions of pounds to dodgy companies with no assets and no history of supplying PPE. The usual opaque company structures washed through tax havens and they all will inevitably lead back to Tory party donors.

Wonder bimbos stance on this?

Floppykid wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:

CM11 wrote:I got a bit bored but is that saying they gave 1/4bn pounds to someone connected with the tender process for doing nothing? Or did they at least get some masks in return?

Basically massive Tory corruption scam - they gave PPE contracts worth hundreds of millions of pounds to dodgy companies with no assets and no history of supplying PPE. The usual opaque company structures washed through tax havens and they all will inevitably lead back to Tory party donors.

Wonder bimbos stance on this?

Who gives a flying fcuk? Don't be encouraging him onto this thread!

I have to say I’m shocked.

https://independent.ie/irish-news/man-w ... 53991.html

anonymous_joe wrote:

rfurlong wrote:

anonymous_joe wrote:

Gavin Duffy wrote:Haven't read the judgement yet, but it was a split decision I note.

Yup.

O'Donnell J said ESB shouldn't be responsible for an act of nature. His dissent wasn't published last night, so I haven't read it.

The other four disagreed.

The other 4 disagreed that a corporate entity shouldn’t be responsible for an act of nature?

What are they, fvcking morons?

What next? Sue the HSE for catching covid?

Haven't read much law before, have you?

An act of nature does not obviate any duty of care if it's reasonably foreseeable.

Taking the example of a river - which all people know are prone to flooding - you could find negligence in any of the following:-

- Building in a flood-plain;
- Building in a manner which is more prone to flooding;
- Using the wrong materials;
- Failure to construct drains;
- Etc, etc.

If we were to take your complaint at face value, speeding on ice isn't negligent as ice is an act of nature.

How the actual fvck can you compare ESB's actions with deliberately speeding on ice? Thats either weapons grade stupidity on your part, or else you're a scum-sucking corrupt lawyer who views the Irish taxpayer as an ATM, which only your profession is entitled to use. 'Entitled' being the operative word here ....

Far from the speeding on ice analogy, ESB were gritting the road like motherfvckers day and night, and through no fault of their own their efforts were overwhelmed by nature, leading to the UCC car getting damaged cos it was parked in a stupid place.

I'm getting genuinely sick of well off judges throwing taxpayers money around like confetti (egged on by their ambulance chasing lawyer mates), while the entire legal system labours under the misapprehension that someone is ALWAYS to blame when shit just happens.

It's about time this nonsense was tackled by the Government.

17/23 cases today directly or indirectly due to travel. Wonder how far removed the indirect cases are? Sligo?

CM11 wrote:17/23 cases today directly or indirectly due to travel. Wonder how far removed the indirect cases are? Sligo?

Vast majority of them young people as well.

R back above 1 but a tiny sample so don't think that's a massive deal.

We really need to keep social distancing going.

danthefan wrote:

CM11 wrote:17/23 cases today directly or indirectly due to travel. Wonder how far removed the indirect cases are? Sligo?

Vast majority of them young people as well.

R back above 1 but a tiny sample so don't think that's a massive deal.

We really need to keep social distancing going.

And start imprisoning teenagers (and their parents)

Paschal Donohoe elected president of the Eurogroup. I assume he retains his position as TD/MoF? Does him being elected do anything for us?

CM11 wrote:17/23 cases today directly or indirectly due to travel. Wonder how far removed the indirect cases are? Sligo?

I'd be interested alright to see how many are from Sligo

danthefan wrote:Paschal Donohoe elected president of the Eurogroup. I assume he retains his position as TD/MoF? Does him being elected do anything for us?

He gets to set the agenda, and if he can't set it to insure that Ireland qualifies for maximum euro moolah he's not an Irish politician.