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Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:32 pm
by lilyw
camroc1 wrote:
lilyw wrote:
camroc1 wrote:As I've said from the beginning of this thread:

No fault compensation with a book of quantum decided by the oireachtas.

And not a lawyer to be seen.
How would that work? Who defends the interests of each party?
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/public ... &text=2006)%2C%20the%20country's%20Accident%20Compensation,maligned%20U.S.%20tort%20law%20system.
Many entitled patients never seek compensation (quoted as a reason for the low cost of the ACC).

Handles 40% of cases
So the key to affordability is to deny compensation to those entitled to it, and in any event it only covers 40% of cases.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:35 pm
by camroc1
Leinsterman wrote:
camroc1 wrote:Those in their twenties will hopefully get some sense when they get older.

FFS when I was 16 I wrote a song called "Che est mort, mais la lutte continua"; which tells you all you need to know about how pretentious a lefty shit I was at that age.
You big bender. Was it after you were laughed at in G32 that you changed your tune? :lol:
Probably after we were on a weekend retreat with the local girls school !

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:37 pm
by anonymous_joe
lilyw wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
lilyw wrote:
camroc1 wrote:As I've said from the beginning of this thread:

No fault compensation with a book of quantum decided by the oireachtas.

And not a lawyer to be seen.
How would that work? Who defends the interests of each party?
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/public ... &text=2006)%2C%20the%20country's%20Accident%20Compensation,maligned%20U.S.%20tort%20law%20system.
Many entitled patients never seek compensation (quoted as a reason for the low cost of the ACC).

Handles 40% of cases
So the key to affordability is to deny compensation to those entitled to it, and in any event it only covers 40% of cases.
It also boasts about paying low compensation.

If you didn't pay the costs of the damage you cause it would definitely be much cheaper.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:48 pm
by lorcanoworms
camroc1 wrote:Those in their twenties will hopefully get some sense when they get older.

FFS when I was 16 I wrote a song called "Che est mort, mais la lutte continua"; which tells you all you need to know about how pretentious a lefty shit I was at that age.
Continue.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:51 pm
by Gavin Duffy
anonymous_joe wrote:
lilyw wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
lilyw wrote:
camroc1 wrote:As I've said from the beginning of this thread:

No fault compensation with a book of quantum decided by the oireachtas.

And not a lawyer to be seen.
How would that work? Who defends the interests of each party?
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/public ... &text=2006)%2C%20the%20country's%20Accident%20Compensation,maligned%20U.S.%20tort%20law%20system.
Many entitled patients never seek compensation (quoted as a reason for the low cost of the ACC).

Handles 40% of cases
So the key to affordability is to deny compensation to those entitled to it, and in any event it only covers 40% of cases.
It also boasts about paying low compensation.

If you didn't pay the costs of the damage you cause it would definitely be much cheaper.
Low compensation is almost certainly an accurate reflection of the actual damage caused. That's the f*cking point.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:42 pm
by Duff Paddy
Far from Lily’s first post with a hint of a compo claim in his past. The point is that the vast majority of people “entitled” to compo do not pursue it. If they did then this country would cease to function overnight.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:44 pm
by Mullet 2
Imagine boasting about low compensation

Their lawyers must be on the breadline

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:47 pm
by rfurlong
Mullet 2 wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:Still feels like Leo is Taoiseach with all these statements on schools and travel.
Tell that to Fergus O’Dowd
Do you want this government to work or what?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:51 pm
by Mullet 2
Posters telling us FG playing silly buggers and you accuse me? They cant both be true.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:53 pm
by Mullet 2
Fúcking INTO scumbags

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:55 pm
by rfurlong
Mullet 2 wrote:
EverReady wrote:FG and the Greens are playing FF like a fiddle at th moment. It's sad to watch
So FG wanted to have O’Dowd beaten?
Whereas FF did?

Your party is behaving like an exploding clowns car right now ..... it seems that a good section of TD’s already have their knives out for Martin, with the likes of cowen, macsharry, o’cuiv, McGuinness, o’callaghan and O’Dea doing a great impression of a bunch of scorpions.

People giving the greens shite about being flaky but FF back benchers will bring down this government within a year at this rate.

There’s no chance FF are going to allow varadkar take over in 2.5 years by the look of things, without coming up with an excuse to bail at that stage ..... that’s if Martin even lasts that long as leader of the party

FF will he single digits in the polls if they keep this up

Plus ca change

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:56 pm
by rfurlong
Mullet 2 wrote:Posters telling us FG playing silly buggers and you accuse me? They cant both be true.
What FG-ers are playing silly buggers? Are you suggesting that FG TD’s didn’t vote for O’Dowd?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:59 pm
by Mullet 2
I suggest you read the thread before jumping in and completely missing the point.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:05 pm
by CM11
Mullet 2 wrote:Fúcking INTO scumbags
:?:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:11 pm
by rfurlong
Mullet 2 wrote:I suggest you read the thread before jumping in and completely missing the point.
What point am I missing ?

10 Fianna Fáil TD’s just voted against their governments candidate FFS

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:16 pm
by Mullet 2
CM11 wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Fúcking INTO scumbags
:?:
Prime Time

The smallest bit of reading between the lines from that useless bint Miriam and you would have seen they are the reason the return hasn't been confirmed.

This bizarre code of omerta around unions from politicians and the media baffles me.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:16 pm
by Gavin Duffy
Catherine Connolly is a complete looper, will be a disaster.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:16 pm
by Mullet 2
Well not really baffles they're afraid of their shite but still.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:22 pm
by CM11
Mullet 2 wrote:
CM11 wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Fúcking INTO scumbags
:?:
Prime Time

The smallest bit of reading between the lines from that useless bint Miriam and you would have seen they are the reason the return hasn't been confirmed.

This bizarre code of omerta around unions from politicians and the media baffles me.
:thumbup:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:36 pm
by rfurlong
EverReady wrote:Lads this has been known for weeks leading into months that they weren't going to go back. Follow me in future. I have a third eye. My japs one.
The schools are going back in 5 weeks ER, so you’re going to need to find another drum to bang

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:41 pm
by rfurlong
Arlene Foster has made the point that RoI has opted out of the CTA by excluding UK from the Green List.

I’m inclined to agree with her.

Also, does the UK’s absence mean that people coming from NI need to self isolate?

Haven’t been paying proper attention to this ..... has the government just created a harder border?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:47 pm
by sewa
rfurlong wrote:Arlene Foster has made the point that RoI has opted out of the CTA by excluding UK from the Green List.

I’m inclined to agree with her.

Also, does the UK’s absence mean that people coming from NI need to self isolate?

Haven’t been paying proper attention to this ..... has the government just created a harder border?
The Green list is temporary and gets updated every two weeks.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:51 pm
by Duff Paddy
rfurlong wrote:Arlene Foster has made the point that RoI has opted out of the CTA by excluding UK from the Green List.

I’m inclined to agree with her.

Also, does the UK’s absence mean that people coming from NI need to self isolate?

Haven’t been paying proper attention to this ..... has the government just created a harder border?
Can’t agree. It’s very simple. If your destination is not on the green list you can still travel but you need to isolate when you return. That’s not a ban on travel to a destination.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:53 pm
by rfurlong
EverReady wrote:
rfurlong wrote:
EverReady wrote:Lads this has been known for weeks leading into months that they weren't going to go back. Follow me in future. I have a third eye. My japs one.
The schools are going back in 5 weeks ER, so you’re going to need to find another drum to bang
They are not going back full time furlong me oul segocia. No sirree

The teachers will get their sub panels and their sanitizers and their temperature checks etc and will be faced with a choice of doing the jobs they are getting paid for, or getting absolutely hammered by Joe public

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:54 pm
by Nolanator
Who's gonna hammer them? Certainly won't be the media presenting that opinion to the public.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:07 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
40% said schools should be back in just a limited fashion one month ago according to a poll, 50% in favour. Lots of people still terrified of de Covid. I’d hardly say that will mean Joe Public all against the Unions. I mean quite a few had that opinion not too long ago on here. rfurlong I know you’re a bit more gung ho about it since Leo the Lion came out so stridently for it but not everyone is the same.

At least it’s not the latest round of the culture wars like in the US though.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:11 pm
by lilyw
Duff Paddy wrote:Far from Lily’s first post with a hint of a compo claim in his past. The point is that the vast majority of people “entitled” to compo do not pursue it. If they did then this country would cease to function overnight.
fudge right off with your snide attempts at character assassination.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:13 pm
by paddyor
Blackrock Bullet wrote:
camroc1 wrote:Those in their twenties will hopefully get some sense when they get older.

FFS when I was 16 I wrote a song called "Che est mort, mais la lutte continua"; which tells you all you need to know about how pretentious a lefty shit I was at that age.
:lol:
:lol:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:17 pm
by rfurlong
Blackrock Bullet wrote:40% said schools should be back in just a limited fashion one month ago according to a poll, 50% in favour. Lots of people still terrified of de Covid. I’d hardly say that will mean Joe Public all against the Unions. I mean quite a few had that opinion not too long ago on here. rfurlong I know you’re a bit more gung ho about it since Leo the Lion came out so stridently for it but not everyone is the same.

At least it’s not the latest round of the culture wars like in the US though.
Nothing to do with varadkar ffs

It’s purely down to the fact that every other country is managing to reopen schools, so there’s no good reason for Irish exceptionalism .....

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:28 pm
by rfurlong
EverReady wrote:Good one :lol:
So what’s the reason Ireland is different?

Class sizes? Aged school buildings? High absenteeism of teachers?

Good luck to any government trying to explain those barriers to hard pressed parents

If schools don’t go back then this government is finished ..... they are simply not going to allow that to happen ..... no matter what the teachers unions say or do

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:31 pm
by CM11
ER is well into his exponential growth on this he's doubled down so many times. Way too late for him to back down now.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:38 pm
by camroc1
rfurlong wrote:
EverReady wrote:Good one :lol:
So what’s the reason Ireland is different?

Class sizes? Aged school buildings? High absenteeism of teachers?

Good luck to any government trying to explain those barriers to hard pressed parents

If schools don’t go back then this government is finished ..... they are simply not going to allow that to happen ..... no matter what the teachers unions say or do
And Varadkar has stated the FG position several times.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:42 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
rfurlong wrote:
Blackrock Bullet wrote:40% said schools should be back in just a limited fashion one month ago according to a poll, 50% in favour. Lots of people still terrified of de Covid. I’d hardly say that will mean Joe Public all against the Unions. I mean quite a few had that opinion not too long ago on here. rfurlong I know you’re a bit more gung ho about it since Leo the Lion came out so stridently for it but not everyone is the same.

At least it’s not the latest round of the culture wars like in the US though.
Nothing to do with varadkar ffs

It’s purely down to the fact that every other country is managing to reopen schools, so there’s no good reason for Irish exceptionalism .....
Jeez, when that was mentioned a month or so on here, it was crazy talk

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:46 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
So having canvassed some TDs on what happened with the Leas Ceann Comhairle vote.

Fine Gael think it was Fianna Fáil

The Greens think it was Fianna Fáil

Fianna Fáil think it was Fine Gael & the Greens

Sinn Féin TDs haven’t stopped laughing long enough to get back

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:47 pm
by camroc1
The thing that gets me is the lack of explanation about how more discovered cases as we open up is actually a good thing.

We are now discovering wells/sources of infection within the community that would otherwise remain hidden. And it is only by continually flushing out previously unknown sources of covid that we can keep control of it. Leaving unknown sources remain unknown is how we end up back where we were last March/April. And the more we open up, the more of these unknown sources we will flush out.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:06 am
by Blackrock Bullet
camroc1 wrote:The thing that gets me is the lack of explanation about how more discovered cases as we open up is actually a good thing.

We are now discovering wells/sources of infection within the community that would otherwise remain hidden. And it is only by continually flushing out previously unknown sources of covid that we can keep control of it. Leaving unknown sources remain unknown is how we end up back where we were last March/April. And the more we open up, the more of these unknown sources we will flush out.
Because it is the Stato school of thought that people need to be gamed a bit rather than full openness.

The issue I have with that is that some people get fatigued from fear and trying to be clever with little things and you’ve lost the core message. I mean ffs, the message that supermarket workers were now the frontline, the virus didn’t just decide to hate Margaret Heffernan overnight. People aren’t idiots.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:10 am
by Duff Paddy
lilyw wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:Far from Lily’s first post with a hint of a compo claim in his past. The point is that the vast majority of people “entitled” to compo do not pursue it. If they did then this country would cease to function overnight.
fudge right off with your snide attempts at character assassination.
You were a vociferous defender of whiplash on a previous thread, now on here you are attacking a system that seeks to reduce compensation awards, and we know you’re not in the legal profession - so apologies if untrue but anyone defending the deeply rotten system we have in this country is going to arise suspicion.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:15 am
by lilyw
Duff Paddy wrote:
lilyw wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:Far from Lily’s first post with a hint of a compo claim in his past. The point is that the vast majority of people “entitled” to compo do not pursue it. If they did then this country would cease to function overnight.
fudge right off with your snide attempts at character assassination.
You were a vociferous defender of whiplash on a previous thread, now on here you are attacking a system that seeks to reduce compensation awards, and we know you’re not in the legal profession - so apologies if untrue but anyone defending the deeply rotten system we have in this country is going to arise suspicion.
Apology not accepted because it's insincere. You went straight to character assassination - as you have done before. You seem incapable of conducting an argument on its merits.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:32 am
by Duff Paddy
lilyw wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
lilyw wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:Far from Lily’s first post with a hint of a compo claim in his past. The point is that the vast majority of people “entitled” to compo do not pursue it. If they did then this country would cease to function overnight.
fudge right off with your snide attempts at character assassination.
You were a vociferous defender of whiplash on a previous thread, now on here you are attacking a system that seeks to reduce compensation awards, and we know you’re not in the legal profession - so apologies if untrue but anyone defending the deeply rotten system we have in this country is going to arise suspicion.
Apology not accepted because it's insincere. You went straight to character assassination - as you have done before. You seem incapable of conducting an argument on its merits.
Ridiculous position. This is an anonymous internet message board. I cannot assassinate your character as I don’t know you or who you are. Your posting history includes several posts defending a deeply rotten system and that’s all I have to go on. You’ve taken exception to me calling your position out, if that’s not your position then say so but don’t pull the thin skin routine on here because you don’t like to be called out on what you’ve posted in the past.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:14 am
by CM11
BB, you've agreed not to engage with me so stop pathetically calling me out in every second post.