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Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:59 pm**

What's notable, for me anyway, is that both Dublin and, finally, Donegal have stabilised.

It's really a game of chicken for the rest of the country. The government seem to be holding steady but this looks like it's going to hit a week of 1500/2000 cases before it starts falling.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:00 pm**

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:59 pm What's notable, for me anyway, is that both Dublin and, finally, Donegal have stabilised.

It's really a game of chicken for the rest of the country. The government seem to be holding steady but this looks like it's going to hit a week of 1500/2000 cases before it starts falling.

Are you suggesting that Leo was right and that level 3 restrictions are adequate

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:01 pm**

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:55 pm
danthefan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:48 pm Cases pretty much back to peak levels, fairly depressing.
Yeah once it gets momentum it the numbers of positive cases get scary but hospital numbers are all that counts and we are still very low. More discharges than admissions yesterday.

Hospital admissions have been steady at 3% of cases, give or take 0.25% for two months now. You can't completely ignore case numbers.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:03 pm**

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:01 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:55 pm
danthefan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:48 pm Cases pretty much back to peak levels, fairly depressing.
Yeah once it gets momentum it the numbers of positive cases get scary but hospital numbers are all that counts and we are still very low. More discharges than admissions yesterday.
Hospital admissions have been steady at 3% of cases, give or take 0.25% for two months now. You can't completely ignore case numbers.

I’m not. But at the same time I’m not reaching for the whiskey and the revolver because case numbers are rising. We have capacity.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:05 pm**

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:00 pm
CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:59 pm What's notable, for me anyway, is that both Dublin and, finally, Donegal have stabilised.

It's really a game of chicken for the rest of the country. The government seem to be holding steady but this looks like it's going to hit a week of 1500/2000 cases before it starts falling.
Are you suggesting that Leo was right and that level 3 restrictions are adequate

Is this a trick question?

I have to admit it's difficult looking from the outside (and from a position of not being affected by further restrictions bar social outlets) to not worry about the peak of this, which obviously has yet to come. I've been pointing out hospitalisations (number in hospital at 8pm) have been doubling since August and the question is where does it peak and can we handle it? Deaths, we've discussed, but again scary to be trying to hold steady in a storm.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:09 pm**

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:05 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:00 pm
CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:59 pm What's notable, for me anyway, is that both Dublin and, finally, Donegal have stabilised.

It's really a game of chicken for the rest of the country. The government seem to be holding steady but this looks like it's going to hit a week of 1500/2000 cases before it starts falling.
Are you suggesting that Leo was right and that level 3 restrictions are adequate
Is this a trick question?

I have to admit it's difficult looking from the outside (and from a position of not being affected by further restrictions bar social outlets) to not worry about the peak of this, which obviously has yet to come. I've been pointing out hospitalisations (number in hospital at 8pm) have been doubling since August and the question is where does it peak and can we handle it? Deaths, we've discussed, but again scary to be trying to hold steady in a storm.

It is scary but we knew it would be like this. Now we need to put on our big boy pants. It’s easy to forget the numbers we had on trolleys in A&E every single winter up until this year. Elderly people were dying of the flu every day and it never warranted a mention in the media. Now this obviously worse than the flu but look where we are at now and let’s not shit the bed just yet.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:14 pm**

Difference between the trolley problem and this is the stuff they need to do to isolate covid patients.

Private hospital contract needs signing.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:44 pm**

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:14 pm Difference between the trolley problem and this is the stuff they need to do to isolate covid patients.

Private hospital contract needs signing.

Yes well obviously I didn’t mean it as a direct comparison - it was making a point about the state of play that existed before this year and that we blissfully ignored for years. The Chinese were smart they built isolation hospitals straight away. We haven’t had TB hospitals in a while but we could use a couple of them now.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:30 pm**

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:55 pm
danthefan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:48 pm Cases pretty much back to peak levels, fairly depressing.
Yeah once it gets momentum it the numbers of positive cases get scary but hospital numbers are all that counts and we are still very low. More discharges than admissions yesterday.

And yet the total number in hospital increased by >20? Not sure what to make of their figures tbh, should have been -2 in theory. Unless it’s spreading in the hospitals themselves?

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:32 pm**

danthefan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:07 am Did that unit get rented out in the end?

Not unless some fool took it in the last 3 or 4 months since I was last in Cork.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:34 pm**

Just was talking to a mate back from London this weekend. Back in Ireland just for 4 days, he is allowed in but has to quarantine. The people he will quarantine with are parents (in their 60s). The logic of him even restricting movements is crazy.

It is a real failure of our State not to have in place a relationship with the U.K. over Covid already.

You had to quarantine all summer coming in from London, it’s insane. This is going to continue to happen for months on end , why?

Covid policy in the U.K. has been broadly similar to Ireland since late March. Forget Cheltenham, they changed their tact on March 17th and have been as aggressive/hawkish as Ireland since.

I happen to see think their policies (like ours) are cracked and unsustainable, but they are prey much the same.

Ireland both cut off the U.K. and Europe during the summer. The Brits were closer to the ECDC standard on travel than Ireland, and we are the ones scoffing at them for cutting off ties with Europe! We need more access to Europe than ever before, but in a summer where people were more geographically constrained than ever before, we cut ourselves off. What better summer to substitute US tourists for more Europeans, and to show them Ireland & it as an integral part of Europe. Instead we said to get lost!

Instead we were in this weird fudge zone on travel that short ourselves in the foot on both levels.

But what’s more is that we have established economic ties with Britain, established movement back and forth. Forget about the “Ireland as an island” issue of Brexit, us having any further restrictions with the U.K. in terms of trade and travel was a huge issue of Brexit.

On Britain, the same lazy lines on them are seen in the press and on here. “Shit show”, “what a mess” etc, it’s irrelevant. You can hate Brexit all you like, and disagree with their initial Covid policy, but what’s done is done. Martin also sounded the more conciliatory tone over Brexit and it would have been great if the first thing he had done was to sound out some form of joint policy.

Are we really content in Ireland to play this charade with hundreds of thousand of Irish people (and similar U.K. numbers) who need to go between our islands regularly? Because that’s all it is, a charade, you are as likely to get Covid in Dublin as London and vice versa.

Are we going to have hundreds of thousands coming home to see their parents at Christmas, and going straight into “at risk” parents, and allow that whilst the charade of quarantine continues?

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:37 pm**

Blackrock Bullet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:34 pm Just was talking to a mate back from London this weekend. Back in Ireland just for 4 days, he is allowed in but has to quarantine. The people he will quarantine with are parents (in their 60s). The logic of him even restricting movements is crazy.

It is a real failure of our State not to have in place a relationship with the U.K. over Covid already.

You had to quarantine all summer coming in from London, it’s insane. This is going to continue to happen for months on end , why?

Covid policy in the U.K. has been broadly similar to Ireland since late March. Forget Cheltenham, they changed their tact on March 17th and have been as aggressive/hawkish as Ireland since.

I happen to see think their policies (like ours) are cracked and unsustainable, but they are prey much the same.

Ireland both cut off the U.K. and Europe during the summer. The Brits were closer to the ECDC standard on travel than Ireland, and we are the ones scoffing at them for cutting off ties with Europe! We need more access to Europe than ever before, but in a summer where people were more geographically constrained than ever before, we cut ourselves off. What better summer to substitute US tourists for more Europeans, and to show them Ireland & it as an integral part of Europe. Instead we said to get lost!

Instead we were in this weird fudge zone on travel that short ourselves in the foot on both levels.

But what’s more is that we have established economic ties with Britain, established movement back and forth. Forget about the “Ireland as an island” issue of Brexit, us having any further restrictions with the U.K. in terms of trade and travel was a huge issue of Brexit.

On Britain, the same lazy lines on them are seen in the press and on here. “Shit show”, “what a mess” etc, it’s irrelevant. You can hate Brexit all you like, and disagree with their initial Covid policy, but what’s done is done. Martin also sounded the more conciliatory tone over Brexit and it would have been great if the first thing he had done was to sound out some form of joint policy.

Are we really content in Ireland to play this charade with hundreds of thousand of Irish people (and similar U.K. numbers) who need to go between our islands regularly? Because that’s all it is, a charade, you are as likely to get Covid in Dublin as London and vice versa.

Are we going to have hundreds of thousands coming home to see their parents at Christmas, and going straight into “at risk” parents, and allow that whilst the charade of quarantine continues?

I can assure you there was no scarcity of British people in the west of Ireland over the summer, and very welcome they were too.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:18 pm**

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:05 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:00 pm
CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:59 pm What's notable, for me anyway, is that both Dublin and, finally, Donegal have stabilised.

It's really a game of chicken for the rest of the country. The government seem to be holding steady but this looks like it's going to hit a week of 1500/2000 cases before it starts falling.
Are you suggesting that Leo was right and that level 3 restrictions are adequate
Is this a trick question?

I have to admit it's difficult looking from the outside (and from a position of not being affected by further restrictions bar social outlets) to not worry about the peak of this, which obviously has yet to come. I've been pointing out hospitalisations (number in hospital at 8pm) have been doubling since August and the question is where does it peak and can we handle it? Deaths, we've discussed, but again scary to be trying to hold steady in a storm.

You need to assess whether the level of overall hospitalisations, ICU cases and excess deaths are different at this time than you would expect at this time in the last 5 years.

We always see a rise is respiratory disease each year in Autumn and so we can probably expect some seasonal triggering of SARS-CoV-2 disease as we head into Winter. I have checked in with a few hospital doctors I know and they are convinced they are looking at genuine Covid cases similar to Spring based on CT lung scans for fibrosis symptoms, etc. But the numbers are low. However the question is how they will progress and this trend will continue to increase as we head further into Winter.

I think we will track the French and Spanish profiles lagging by a few weeks. So not the scary wave as in Spring but they are desperately trying to keep all the other hospital services open so they are under huge pressure as Ireland generally runs its ICUs close to capacity every winter and routinely cancels non-elective surgeries every second winter to deal with influenza and norovirus outsbreaks.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:22 pm**

Gavin Duffy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:37 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:34 pm Just was talking to a mate back from London this weekend. Back in Ireland just for 4 days, he is allowed in but has to quarantine. The people he will quarantine with are parents (in their 60s). The logic of him even restricting movements is crazy.

It is a real failure of our State not to have in place a relationship with the U.K. over Covid already.

You had to quarantine all summer coming in from London, it’s insane. This is going to continue to happen for months on end , why?

Covid policy in the U.K. has been broadly similar to Ireland since late March. Forget Cheltenham, they changed their tact on March 17th and have been as aggressive/hawkish as Ireland since.

I happen to see think their policies (like ours) are cracked and unsustainable, but they are prey much the same.

Ireland both cut off the U.K. and Europe during the summer. The Brits were closer to the ECDC standard on travel than Ireland, and we are the ones scoffing at them for cutting off ties with Europe! We need more access to Europe than ever before, but in a summer where people were more geographically constrained than ever before, we cut ourselves off. What better summer to substitute US tourists for more Europeans, and to show them Ireland & it as an integral part of Europe. Instead we said to get lost!

Instead we were in this weird fudge zone on travel that short ourselves in the foot on both levels.

But what’s more is that we have established economic ties with Britain, established movement back and forth. Forget about the “Ireland as an island” issue of Brexit, us having any further restrictions with the U.K. in terms of trade and travel was a huge issue of Brexit.

On Britain, the same lazy lines on them are seen in the press and on here. “Shit show”, “what a mess” etc, it’s irrelevant. You can hate Brexit all you like, and disagree with their initial Covid policy, but what’s done is done. Martin also sounded the more conciliatory tone over Brexit and it would have been great if the first thing he had done was to sound out some form of joint policy.

Are we really content in Ireland to play this charade with hundreds of thousand of Irish people (and similar U.K. numbers) who need to go between our islands regularly? Because that’s all it is, a charade, you are as likely to get Covid in Dublin as London and vice versa.

Are we going to have hundreds of thousands coming home to see their parents at Christmas, and going straight into “at risk” parents, and allow that whilst the charade of quarantine continues?
I can assure you there was no scarcity of British people in the west of Ireland over the summer, and very welcome they were too.

I know what. It’s a charade.

And what the point?

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:36 pm**

Brace yourselves everyone. After the numbers today we may as well get used to the press and media from tomorrow onwards telling us to "brace ourselves for lockdown"
George Lee has probably wanked himself to death several times over at this stage.
I can only hope we see some nice graphs

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:42 pm**

Leinsterman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:36 pm Brace yourselves everyone. After the numbers today we may as well get used to the press and media from tomorrow onwards telling us to "brace ourselves for lockdown"
George Lee has probably wanked himself to death several times over at this stage.
I can only hope we see some nice graphs

The next 10 days will be critical

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:42 pm**

Leinsterman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:36 pm Brace yourselves everyone. After the numbers today we may as well get used to the press and media from tomorrow onwards telling us to "brace ourselves for lockdown"
George Lee has probably wanked himself to death several times over at this stage.
I can only hope we see some nice graphs

I don’t know how we ever walk back from this.

Literally hundreds of admissions a week during flu season and we barely bat an eyelid.

The WHO saying lockdowns are not good policy should be hammered home.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:04 pm**

1st wave the narrative was hospitals would be overwhelmed like we saw in Italy

2nd wave hospitals won't be able to do elective treatments alongside covid treatment.

Level 4/5 or not, this is our chance to sort our public health system and put proper capacity into it. I'm hoping next week's budget goes towards that.

I don't mind paying more tax , PRSI or USC to make a health system on a par with Germany, France or even Australia

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm**

Blackrock Bullet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:02 pm
alliswell wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:20 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:09 am
nardol wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:34 am
danthefan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:44 am Michael D politicising the presidency again I see.
I dislike his ivory tower bs also however its hardly startling for the president to be political... He is an elected politician after all....
It’s not in the job role to be political.

You have to be wary of anyone’s who life goal in politics is to become President of Ireland so he can pontificate. I doubt he ever had much interest in becoming Taoiseach and having actual hard work.
Ah yeah spend 40 years in public office so some smug arsehole can come along and call you a lazy plum. And we wonder why decent people don't want to get into politics.
Save us, Higgins has lived a very nice life as President, we don’t need to go into his various “expenses” that he has enjoyed in office.

The only job of genuine substance that he ever had was Foreign Affairs spokesman, one where he could again attack from the sideline but do very little. Venezuela was class and the US evil was the general tone. He has never had a proper economic or challenging portfolio. He was Minister for Fun in the nineties.

As the Phoenix outlined in 1990, he was making moves then to try and be the Labour candidate. That this was his goal was telling & reflects a career of talking from an ivory tower.

Imagine the temerity of aspiring to one of the highest offices in the land after a mere quarter of a century in political life.

It's a pretty sweet irony for a chap who spends his evenings pontificating on the internet to accuse someone else of living in an ivory tower particularly when the man on the receiving end has probably run in an election of some description for every year you've been on this earth. It's nothing but ditch hurling from someone who will never put himself in that position and will never know what it takes to be elected and stay elected.

You don't like the man, you don't like his politics, that's grand but implying he's lazy or not to be trusted is real bottom of the barrel stuff, which I would say is unworthy of you but here we are

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:25 pm**

Trying to defend twee now ffs, the man RTÉ elected to the presidency. Not a glorious period in our democracy.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:39 pm**

I do enjoy how much he bothers you chaps. This must be how toothless hicks feel about Trump.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:43 pm**

iarmhiman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:04 pm 1st wave the narrative was hospitals would be overwhelmed like we saw in Italy

2nd wave hospitals won't be able to do elective treatments alongside covid treatment.

Level 4/5 or not, this is our chance to sort our public health system and put proper capacity into it. I'm hoping next week's budget goes towards that.

I don't mind paying more tax , PRSI or USC to make a health system on a par with Germany, France or even Australia

NOT A HOPE.

Between the DoH, the UNions, and the Consultants, patients come in a very poor fourth place; and the top three will divide any extra resource between themselves before the actual needs of the public/patients.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:50 pm**

198 in hospital with Covid (Cavan 22, CUH 15) with 565 available beds.

Of these, 30 in ICU with 39 available beds.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/ne ... r-2020.pdf

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:07 pm**

alliswell wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:02 pm
alliswell wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:20 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:09 am
nardol wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:34 am

I dislike his ivory tower bs also however its hardly startling for the president to be political... He is an elected politician after all....
It’s not in the job role to be political.

You have to be wary of anyone’s who life goal in politics is to become President of Ireland so he can pontificate. I doubt he ever had much interest in becoming Taoiseach and having actual hard work.
Ah yeah spend 40 years in public office so some smug arsehole can come along and call you a lazy plum. And we wonder why decent people don't want to get into politics.
Save us, Higgins has lived a very nice life as President, we don’t need to go into his various “expenses” that he has enjoyed in office.

The only job of genuine substance that he ever had was Foreign Affairs spokesman, one where he could again attack from the sideline but do very little. Venezuela was class and the US evil was the general tone. He has never had a proper economic or challenging portfolio. He was Minister for Fun in the nineties.

As the Phoenix outlined in 1990, he was making moves then to try and be the Labour candidate. That this was his goal was telling & reflects a career of talking from an ivory tower.
Imagine the temerity of aspiring to one of the highest offices in the land after a mere quarter of a century in political life.

It's a pretty sweet irony for a chap who spends his evenings pontificating on the internet to accuse someone else of living in an ivory tower particularly when the man on the receiving end has probably run in an election of some description for every year you've been on this earth. It's nothing but ditch hurling from someone who will never put himself in that position and will never know what it takes to be elected and stay elected.

You don't like the man, you don't like his politics, that's grand but implying he's lazy or not to be trusted is real bottom of the barrel stuff, which I would say is unworthy of you but here we are

You can take that position if you like, you are more than happy to engage on here as well on the internet. We all have opinions, so get over your lame attack.

If your ambition in life is to go into that role, and that you have been driving towards that 2 decades, then yes I will criticise. It is like me looking to be a Chairman of a large Company and get all the title and nice interviews; without the substance. You as a teacher might see yourself as a life long educator in the classroom. Or maybe as a principal, directing a school. Or mayne in the education department crafting policy and education. I don’t think anyone with an ounce of real ambition just wants to be a figurehead chairperson to mouth off.

Michael D never had a real role in Labour in a challenging portfolio. He wanted to be President for years so he could talk shite, have a title and zero responsibility for that same shitetalk.

He is a mile from your Eamonn Gilmore’s, Dick Spring, Noel Browne; Pat Rabbitte or Joan Burton etc. I can fully respect someone like Mary Robinson who used the role as a stepping stone. I can actually have respect for them as politicians on the left who wanted to do things and took hard choices. Michael D Higgins is a mouth who talks about neoliberalism and the US being dreadful but says Venezuela and Chavez are class.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:09 pm**

camroc1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:50 pm 198 in hospital with Covid (Cavan 22, CUH 15) with 565 available beds.

Of these, 30 in ICU with 39 available beds.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/ne ... r-2020.pdf

I am going to say it again ... you need to compare overall hospitalisation and excess death data with previous years to see if COVID19 is actually driving a healthcare dynamic that is worse than other years.

There is no control being used for the rise in respiratory conditions observed. We can see a rise in COVID hospitalisation and deaths, but is this does not drive the overall number, we are ultimately just recategorising deaths.

Excess deaths for 2020 are no different to the last few years despite having a "pandemic" ... go figure ?

Our healthcare system nearly collapses every winter with norovirus shutdowns and when we get a bad bout of influenza. They cancel non-elective surgeries routinely in those situations, but we don't say throw a few hundred thousand onto the dole and scrap loads of businesses. But having a relatively low level of healthcare capacity does also kill other non-Covid patients as will happen here now with the anchored focus on Covid Zero.

Once you have cut off your balls and it does not work, what will you need to do next ?

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:12 pm**

alliswell wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:39 pm I do enjoy how much he bothers you chaps. This must be how toothless hicks feel about Trump.

Higgins comes and goes, it really doesn’t bother me that much. I am more exercised by the day to day level of stupidity in our political and current affairs discussion.

But if he going to talk; then he will get fair criticism.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:12 pm**

EverReady wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:45 pm
alliswell wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:39 pm I do enjoy how much he bothers you chaps. This must be how toothless hicks feel about Trump.
But they love Trump. Hold on are you the toothless hick?

I am empathy

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:18 pm**

Blackrock Bullet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:12 pm
alliswell wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:39 pm I do enjoy how much he bothers you chaps. This must be how toothless hicks feel about Trump.
Higgins comes and goes, it really doesn’t bother me that much. I am more exercised by the day to day level of stupidity in our political and current affairs discussion.

But if he going to talk; then he will get fair criticism.

This.

He is an egotistical, self opinionated spoofer, and, eh, I know one when I see one.

But he's harmless.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:18 pm**

alliswell wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:39 pm I do enjoy how much he bothers you chaps. This must be how toothless hicks feel about Trump.

Except you’re the toothless hick in this situation, but you know that already.

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:26 am**

HighKingLeinster wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:41 pm 1000 cases

Level fivers will be pulling the cocks of themselves

Good thing Leo made sure he was Mr Standing Up to NPHET

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:30 am**

Gavin Duffy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:18 pm
alliswell wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:39 pm I do enjoy how much he bothers you chaps. This must be how toothless hicks feel about Trump.
Except you’re the toothless hick in this situation, but you know that already.

Says the lad giving it the forlock tugging Wesht of Ireland Paddy earlier about how great it was welcoming all the Pigdogs to the land of eternal rain during a Pandemic.

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:34 am**

fudge the lockdown stages. They're all the same until I can sit at the bar in a miserable pub drinking a great stout reading a miserable book while bathing in my misery.

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:33 am**

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:26 am
HighKingLeinster wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:41 pm 1000 cases

Level fivers will be pulling the cocks of themselves
Good thing Leo made sure he was Mr Standing Up to NPHET

Someone needed to.

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:04 am**

camroc1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:33 am
Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:26 am
HighKingLeinster wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:41 pm 1000 cases

Level fivers will be pulling the cocks of themselves
Good thing Leo made sure he was Mr Standing Up to NPHET
Someone needed to.

And 6 days later they announce 1000 cases and he's writing in the Sindo that we need harsher measures.

I wait your hilariously diluted post explaining how this is another political triumph for the Castleknock Rommel. With Stats in support.

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:34 am**

Oh, oh, oh!
Let's go fly a kite
Up to the highest height!
Let's go fly a kite and send it soaring
Up through the atmosphere
Up where the air is clear
Oh, let's go fly a kite!

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:29 am**

And other impacts to Ireland from the huge number of PCR false positives ... the two Irish soccer players ruled out of last Thursday's Euro decider Aaron Connolly and Alan Idah have rested negative 3 times on return ...

Testing the healthy for monitoring purposes is risky when the level of false positives is close to the positivity rate for the test.

You need to retest every positive with a second confirmatory test, else you just inflate your figures.

https://www.the42.ie/connolly-and-idah- ... =shortlink

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:42 am**

Botha Boy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:29 am And other impacts to Ireland from the huge number of PCR false positives ... the two Irish soccer players ruled out of last Thursday's Euro decider Aaron Connolly and Alan Idah have rested negative 3 times on return ...

Testing the healthy for monitoring purposes is risky when the level of false positives is close to the positivity rate for the test.

You need to retest every positive with a second confirmatory test, else you just inflate your figures.

https://www.the42.ie/connolly-and-idah- ... =shortlink

Anyone know if these guys are first choice or finishers or E.S.F?

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:42 am**

I really don’t understand why the Government didn’t openly indicate that private beds would be taken if needed. There’s a background show going on there in terms of price, but we all know they will he used if neeeded.

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:49 am**

EverReady wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:45 am Sure why do that. The polls indicate people might want a lockdown. Let's just do that. It will fück everyone before Christmas bar Jeff Bezos but let's just do it man.

I’m hearing a lot of people say lock down now so we have it over and done with. How naive do you get. If we press the panic button now then we ain’t coming out of it until next March. We’d be finish as an economy. They won’t see it until it’s too late.

Posted: **Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:52 am**

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:49 am
EverReady wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:45 am Sure why do that. The polls indicate people might want a lockdown. Let's just do that. It will fück everyone before Christmas bar Jeff Bezos but let's just do it man.
I’m hearing a lot of people say lock down now so we have it over and done with. How naive do you get. If we press the panic button now then we ain’t coming out of it until next March. We’d be finish as an economy. They won’t see it until it’s too late.

I had a guy in work the other day say the same thing. "Let's just get it over with now"
He's on a contract at the moment and another lockdown would stop all the work he's involved in which cod very well mean he's let go.
I was sitting there ->

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