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You’re not wellEverReady wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:18 pmI am.going to start a rumour the boyos in Kanturk were on the triallorcanoworms wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:10 pm Vaccine from Corkhas this been posted earlier?
https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/pfizers-cov ... d-19160124
Maybe not my place to spill the beans but ER is also taking part in the trial.Conspicuous wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:54 pmYou’re not wellEverReady wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:18 pmI am.going to start a rumour the boyos in Kanturk were on the triallorcanoworms wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:10 pm Vaccine from Cork
https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/pfizers-cov ... d-19160124
I haven’t read a more balanced one on the subject to be honest - unless you have I’d genuinely like to read itanonymous_joe wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:50 pmPretty useless tbh.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:44 pm https://www.thejournal.ie/mother-and-ba ... urce=story
Read this article. I’m no fan of the journal.ie but this is a very fair, balanced article detailing a very complex issue and giving a comprehensive explanation of both sides of the argument. Then you open the comments and see posts after post by people/bots who either didn’t read the article or who didn’t understand it. A few comments about the tories thrown in. It’s just so depressing. They can’t be real people can they? It has to be a concerted effort to game the comments sections.
And laughably one-sided.
Your fascination with strawman arguments is really gathering steam, isn't it?rfurlong wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:46 am I see Europe is continuing its slide toward a chronic second wave
NPHET and the Irish Government must have sabotaged everyone else's efforts to tackle the pandemic effectively.
Its the only possible explanation to the conundrum that "NPHET are shit" and that France/Belgium/Czech Republic/Spain etc are spiralling out of control
Tony is some man to be able to fvck up multiple countries simultaneously eh?
Beep beep beep beepEverReady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:45 amI don't think anybody, not one person, hasn't said that deaths will take off in December/January as we hit peak season. What I certainly have said is we are not in Dec/Jan since May. Calendars work like that. You play what's in front of you and we had a clean break with only Geordan Murphy defending for months now. We are wrecking the economy on the whim of people it is not affecting.rfurlong wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:46 am I see Europe is continuing its slide toward a chronic second wave
NPHET and the Irish Government must have sabotaged everyone else's efforts to tackle the pandemic effectively.
Its the only possible explanation to the conundrum that "NPHET are shit" and that France/Belgium/Czech Republic/Spain etc are spiralling out of control
Tony is some man to be able to fvck up multiple countries simultaneously eh?
The cheek of these lads now trying to pretend they were on the same side as you, me and furlong all alongMullet 2 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:08 amBeep beep beep beepEverReady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:45 amI don't think anybody, not one person, hasn't said that deaths will take off in December/January as we hit peak season. What I certainly have said is we are not in Dec/Jan since May. Calendars work like that. You play what's in front of you and we had a clean break with only Geordan Murphy defending for months now. We are wrecking the economy on the whim of people it is not affecting.rfurlong wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:46 am I see Europe is continuing its slide toward a chronic second wave
NPHET and the Irish Government must have sabotaged everyone else's efforts to tackle the pandemic effectively.
Its the only possible explanation to the conundrum that "NPHET are shit" and that France/Belgium/Czech Republic/Spain etc are spiralling out of control
Tony is some man to be able to fvck up multiple countries simultaneously eh?
It’s gone all cervical screening “why do you hate women” hysterical - I’ve the what’s app group fight texts to prove it - people who have no clue what the government did but are 100% sure that Fianna Fáil hate women and want to see them sufferEverReady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:11 am Here furlong do you genuinely think this is ok from Tones https://www.independent.ie/news/christm ... 76119.html As with everything it is No. Kids go around on horses NO Buy knickers NO travel and quarantine in your mammies in 2 months NOOOOOOOOOOO. Not many are listening to him now but that's his own doing.
Duff the whole mother baby thing has been a Covid proxy war. The Shinners have been itching to shite in about something and they picked this with a willing tittyweb ready to take up arms. Fact is O'Gorman got advised something said yeah. Other people said nah and like a fücking idiot he got twittered and started apologising rather than saying 'oh sound we should get that looked at. I'm happy to do either'. The fawning apology, the Hogan resignation. They are so now and so pointless as nobody accepts apologies these days.
EverReady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:23 am Mullet I am not reversing. I would go back through my posts only that is never ever happening. I distinctly remember thinking this while thing would be like this only way more deaths. We had to able to stomach them but Tony fücked that up on us with his fellow nurse and HR guy NPHET members. Why do you think the minutes aren't released? Because nobody says a fücking word bar Titler and his henchmen Roebbels and Pimmler
A lot of people have been sitting at home on full pay not spending anything on commuting, holidays, socialising etc, they’ve seen their savings hike up and they’re probably thinking if they’re going to be stuck working from home then good idea to get a bigger house with a decent garden. It’ll all end in tears of course, it’s 2007 all over again.On a related note, wtf is going on with the market at the moment? I thought mass unemployment generally lead to a decrease in house prices, not a f*cking spike.
EverReady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:36 amShitCM11 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:25 amEverReady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:23 am Mullet I am not reversing. I would go back through my posts only that is never ever happening. I distinctly remember thinking this while thing would be like this only way more deaths. We had to able to stomach them but Tony fücked that up on us with his fellow nurse and HR guy NPHET members. Why do you think the minutes aren't released? Because nobody says a fücking word bar Titler and his henchmen Roebbels and Pimmler
Thought they started releasing minutes ages ago though?
Must be an element of new buyers alright as the Banks were freezing out those on the wage subsidy scheme.normilet wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:47 am I was secretly hoping house viewings would be stopped during level 5 just to get a break from the unrelenting horror of trying to buy a house in Dublin, but no such luck. Masks, hand sanitizer, no more than 2 people from the same household, 15 minute time limit etc. are the norm, but some agents seem to be more lax than others (up to 6 couples and associated kids in tow in the house at once).
They are making it a requirement to show proof of funds before you can even do a viewing though, I guess to make sure only people who are serious are attending.
On a related note, wtf is going on with the market at the moment? I thought mass unemployment generally lead to a decrease in house prices, not a f*cking spike.
The only thing I can think of is that stock has to be very low, and the buyers we are competing with haven't lost their incomes because of covid, and have probably saved a ton of cash over the last 6 months or so. I'm seeing houses going for 50-60k above asking. Maybe I just have an eye for the better deals but I doubt it!
At least there's the 3.5x lending limit at the moment. Banks don't seem to be giving out exemptions right now either.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:04 amA lot of people have been sitting at home on full pay not spending anything on commuting, holidays, socialising etc, they’ve seen their savings hike up and they’re probably thinking if they’re going to be stuck working from home then good idea to get a bigger house with a decent garden. It’ll all end in tears of course, it’s 2007 all over again.On a related note, wtf is going on with the market at the moment? I thought mass unemployment generally lead to a decrease in house prices, not a f*cking spike.
It's not actually. The banks are not over-leveraged, and they are lending, historically, at relatively sane income to loan ratios, and getting a decent return from their mortgage loans.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:04 amA lot of people have been sitting at home on full pay not spending anything on commuting, holidays, socialising etc, they’ve seen their savings hike up and they’re probably thinking if they’re going to be stuck working from home then good idea to get a bigger house with a decent garden. It’ll all end in tears of course, it’s 2007 all over again.On a related note, wtf is going on with the market at the moment? I thought mass unemployment generally lead to a decrease in house prices, not a f*cking spike.
Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:16 amThe cheek of these lads now trying to pretend they were on the same side as you, me and furlong all alongMullet 2 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:08 amBeep beep beep beepEverReady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:45 amI don't think anybody, not one person, hasn't said that deaths will take off in December/January as we hit peak season. What I certainly have said is we are not in Dec/Jan since May. Calendars work like that. You play what's in front of you and we had a clean break with only Geordan Murphy defending for months now. We are wrecking the economy on the whim of people it is not affecting.rfurlong wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:46 am I see Europe is continuing its slide toward a chronic second wave
NPHET and the Irish Government must have sabotaged everyone else's efforts to tackle the pandemic effectively.
Its the only possible explanation to the conundrum that "NPHET are shit" and that France/Belgium/Czech Republic/Spain etc are spiralling out of control
Tony is some man to be able to fvck up multiple countries simultaneously eh?
Yeah I'm looking to buy but this has a serious calm before the storm vibe.normilet wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:47 am I was secretly hoping house viewings would be stopped during level 5 just to get a break from the unrelenting horror of trying to buy a house in Dublin, but no such luck. Masks, hand sanitizer, no more than 2 people from the same household, 15 minute time limit etc. are the norm, but some agents seem to be more lax than others (up to 6 couples and associated kids in tow in the house at once).
They are making it a requirement to show proof of funds before you can even do a viewing though, I guess to make sure only people who are serious are attending.
On a related note, wtf is going on with the market at the moment? I thought mass unemployment generally lead to a decrease in house prices, not a f*cking spike.
The only thing I can think of is that stock has to be very low, and the buyers we are competing with haven't lost their incomes because of covid, and have probably saved a ton of cash over the last 6 months or so. I'm seeing houses going for 50-60k above asking. Maybe I just have an eye for the better deals but I doubt it!
How did you read them if you thought they weren't being released?EverReady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:22 amSame read them once after mentioned in here. They are a fudge.Leinsterman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:07 amEverReady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:36 amShitCM11 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:25 amEverReady wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:23 am Mullet I am not reversing. I would go back through my posts only that is never ever happening. I distinctly remember thinking this while thing would be like this only way more deaths. We had to able to stomach them but Tony fücked that up on us with his fellow nurse and HR guy NPHET members. Why do you think the minutes aren't released? Because nobody says a fücking word bar Titler and his henchmen Roebbels and Pimmler
Thought they started releasing minutes ages ago though?
There's not a lot in the minutes. I flicked through them a while back, they're certainly not verbatim. Very high level.
Yet again the Health Service Executive Covid-19 contact-tracing system is in difficulty, something that is hardly surprising given the rapid rise in the number of cases testing positive over the past months. On August 17th, responding to a query from RTÉ, the HSE said it was “developing a new testing and tracing model to meet the demands of Covid-19. As part of this process there will be a new model for contact tracing.” Two months on, the same model is still in place.
Research suggests that for contact tracing to be in any way effective, the period between an individual developing symptoms and at least 80 per cent of their contacts being put into quarantine must be less than four days. This time span includes a test phase (time from symptom development to GP referral to test to result) followed by a trace phase (time taken to phone someone to inform them of a positive result and the actions they need to take, identify their close contacts and inform them that they must quarantine).
So how has the HSE contact-tracing system performed? Data on the HSE website is provided in a manner that makes it difficult to determine overall turnaround times. Average times are provided for individual stages but data for the critical initial stage from symptom development to referral for test is not provided.
Rapid deterioration
The data does show that over the past two months the median time from test to result has remained steady at about 1.1 days. However, the mean time taken to complete subsequent contact-tracing calls has increased rapidly from 1.1 days in early September to 2.6 days in mid-October. More recent data (October 23rd) gives the number as 3.8 days. This is a rapid deterioration, with the numbers suggesting that instead of the recommended four days, the process is currently taking at least nine days, rendering test and trace ineffective. Over the course of the six-week lockdown, this must be improved.
Throughout this pandemic considerable attention has been given to the turnaround time from test to result and the HSE has been successful in increasing the volume and speed of the testing process. However, rather less attention has been paid to the tracing process (albeit there have been moves to recruit paid staff to the tracing centres) and how that might be adapted and improved to meet the changing requirements in the ebb and flow of this pandemic.
Life under Level 5: Where can I go, who can I see, what is closed and what is open?
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It may be fortuitous that the system breakdown last week led to people being asked to conduct their own contact tracing – at least it opens the door to other possibilities of how the process might be conducted. Manually phoning people is a laborious and time-consuming business. To reduce timescales more automation is needed for routine cases, allowing public-health experts time to deal with the more complex cases.
There are a number of key steps required to improve the speed and efficiency of tracing. We must first ensure the four-day metric becomes part of the public consciousness. “Eighty per cent end-to-end turnaround from symptom development to testing being carried out and contact tracing being completed” is quite a mouthful, and not particularly memorable.
Simplifying this target to “symptom to quarantine – 80 per cent”, or simply “SQ80” and making it a key metric on the HSE dashboard would generate meaningful data to enable tracking of progress on this crucial metric. Failure to achieve this metric means testing and tracing becomes ineffective in controlling the spread of the virus.
Along with figures for cases and deaths, the current SQ80 value should also be included in daily briefings. Public knowledge of the situation regarding contact tracing can help advocate for improvements if matters deteriorate or problems are not resolved. It might also encourage people who test positive to contact and inform their close contacts. Monitoring this will be particularly important during the lockdown.
There is also substantial scope for automation to support the somewhat slow and cumbersome process that is currently in place. The covid tracker app was launched after a long wait with much fanfare and promise but its usefulness remains unknown. While this was in development it is possible that other less spectacular technical improvements were mooted but not implemented. Indeed, the May HSE roadmap to enhance capacity and turnaround for contact tracing recognised that delivering positive results by SMS could speed up the process. However, this went live only last week.
Self-service technology
Extending this SMS procedure could greatly enhance speed. For example, the text is currently sent with an embedded link to a HSE website providing information on what actions to take regarding isolation. This website could also contain a form to allow the recipient to enter the phone numbers of contacts. On submitting the form, a text would be sent by the HSE system to the contacts informing them that they must quarantine, thereby reducing this process from several days to a few minutes. Self-service technology could also be used. This will allow people, after an initial short contact-tracing call, to enter details such as symptoms, underlying conditions, etc, into a database without the involvement of a contact tracer.
The similarities between a contact-tracing centre and a telemarketing call centre may not be immediately apparent, but they are there. Both are involved with continuously making outbound calls. Extensive system support and technologies have been developed to ensure that call centres operate at peak efficiency by utilising features such as repeated auto-dialling to no response numbers, the ability to transfer calls seamlessly from one group of agents to a more expert group (in this case public-health specialists) and the automatic output of statistics such as number of calls made, type of calls and duration of calls, all essential for planning and operating the centre. What is needed here is to upgrade phone systems currently in use at contact-tracing centres to meet call-centre specification.
All efforts must be made to get SQ80 to four days or less. This is a minimum requirement. If lockdown has the desired effect of decreasing the number of positive cases, this is the opportune time to ensure our tracing system is ready for the next wave.
Dr David Joyce and Prof Eilish McAuliffe are health system researchers at the UCD Iris Centre
Another good piece from the Kaiser, where did the beds go? I'd like to add on staffing, as that will be the excuse, why are so many who signed up to work in the HSE not in roles?When the March lockdown began, planning was done to augment Ireland’s hospital capacity. Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, minister for health Simon Harris and HSE CEO Paul Reid held a press conference on April 1st in a huge auditorium at the Citywest hotel complex. Posing with newly-installed beds, they announced 450 stepdown beds in the arena and 1,000 further isolation beds in the hotel complex. They said they planned similar facilities at eight other centres in the country.
“So in total being able to add over 2,000, nearly 3,000, beds, to our health service capacity…that’s in addition to the 2,000 that we managed to secure from the private hospitals,” the then taoiseach said.
Harris added that the country’s health service would effectively grow by 5,000 beds.
Both stated they expected “very significant pressure” on hospitals in the following weeks. Does that sound familiar this week? Patients were cleared out of acute hospitals, and in many cases sent untested to nursing homes at that time.
What happened to the 3,000 extra public sector beds? What happened to the eight regional centres?
Was the Government then doing what the World Health Organisation later appealed to all governments to do – to use lockdowns as the last resort and as a temporary time-buying step to reorganise and strengthen their health systems’ resources?
Or did these centres and extra beds evaporate when the surge in hospital admissions predicted by Nphet failed to materialise?
Storage
By June 24th, Harris, still minister for health, briefed journalists that the €20 million lease at Citywest would be allowed to expire, and that the beds at Citywest would be put into storage or sent to other health facilities, and that the Health Budget Oversight Group (senior officials at the Departments of Health, Public Expenditure and the HSE) had reported in “early May” that the use of Citywest was “currently low”.
However, by September increasing case numbers of Covid meant that a winter plan to increase bed numbers by 480 and ICU beds by about 20 over eight months was announced in the Oireachtas by newly-appointed Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly. The April plans for extra public beds and centres had been allowed to wither to nothingness. A much smaller and far more leisurely increase in beds was now being promised.
In late September we saw a serious increase in community transmission figures. Nphet warned of exponential increases in infections and major threats to the hospital system’s capacity. Regional lockdowns in certain counties were followed by a Level 3 status for Dublin.
Latest data shows that from mid-September onwards a crude R-number (the number of new cases in any week divided by the number of new cases in the previous week) has actually been in decline both nationally and in Dublin – from about 1.8 to just less than 1.
This suggests that the previous Level 3 status of Dublin was having real impact before the latest lockdown came into force on October 21st.
Nphet will probably claim that the present level of lockdown was responsible for the improvements already happening
All this calls into question whether the Government was panicked into a second national lockdown by trenchant advice that it received from its own advisers.
We are now told by senior Government sources that Northern Ireland patients may need to be admitted to ICU beds in the Republic, and thus “put pressure” on our health service.
But we are also told that that Northern ICU facilities include 150 extra unused ICU beds at emergency Nightingale critical care hospitals – something we just didn’t put in place.
Extrapolations
It is all very well to advocate stoic acceptance of this latest lockdown. But there is no reason to believe that the precautionary principle is applied to the social and economic effects of Nphet’s dubious extrapolations.
For instance, is there any evidence that book shops or clothes shops are likely vectors for community transmission of the virus? Or that non-food items should not be sold in supermarkets?
Banning golf even with the nineteenth hole closed and all par-three courses while leaving public parks open for tennis seems questionable.
Reducing bus capacity by 50 per cent means leaving passengers stranded on their way to work in essential services.
Surely the present lockdown should be immediately audited for necessity.
Given the evidence that the Level 3 restrictions were working in Dublin, would it be too embarrassing to consider a reversion to that level in two or three weeks’ time?
The terrible thing is that Nphet will probably claim that the present level of lockdown was responsible for the improvements already happening under Level 3.
The Oireachtas is simply not being allowed to do its job either. There are people who want to prevent voting divisions on the basis that they cannot be safely conducted within Leinster House. The Government is guillotining all legislation without proper debate.
On Friday last I pointed out a major error in the “house parties” legislation which seriously undermines the new Garda powers. So intent was the Government to save face having rammed the Bill though the Dáil it knowingly forced a guillotine Seanad vote to enact a completely unworkable law.
Shame on it.
Breaking down the numbers of the 209 people who are now assigned or have been placed in services, 89 of them have been placed in nursing and midwifery positions.
A further 260 of them are in the pool waiting for a role, while 687 originally passed an interview and declared themselves available.
Just 16 doctors have been placed in services. The current pool available is 341 from an original 406 doctors who passed an interview and said they were available.
Colm Keena did one today which is good.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:00 amI haven’t read a more balanced one on the subject to be honest - unless you have I’d genuinely like to read itanonymous_joe wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:50 pmPretty useless tbh.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:44 pm https://www.thejournal.ie/mother-and-ba ... urce=story
Read this article. I’m no fan of the journal.ie but this is a very fair, balanced article detailing a very complex issue and giving a comprehensive explanation of both sides of the argument. Then you open the comments and see posts after post by people/bots who either didn’t read the article or who didn’t understand it. A few comments about the tories thrown in. It’s just so depressing. They can’t be real people can they? It has to be a concerted effort to game the comments sections.
And laughably one-sided.
hang on Angela is making the choices ? and she's "considering" them ? what kind of a way is that to run a country during a pandemic ? I wouldn't mind a November lockdown if I'd had a semi normal summer...and if it was clearly laid out exactly what the numbers are that are driving the decision, what the plan is post lockdown, what the criteria is for moving back down the lockdown scales....and that the government had used the last 6 months to scale up the health system's response to this second phase of lockdowns in preparation for the second spike everyone saw coming......anyway, lets rinse and repeat the argument until the 3rd lockdownGavin Duffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:09 pmYou lads were telling us they'd locked down weeks ago. We'll have to see how their measures compare to level 5 whenever they're announced but I reckon we can hazard a fairly safe guess.Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:01 pm https://www.euronews.com/2020/10/27/cor ... d-19-cases
You daily installment of "only in Ireland"
Now back to your echo chamber
hey Norm, have you looked into Avant Money for a montage ? came across an article about them recently - looks like they're trying to get in on the expensive Irish montage rate market and offering low rates in line with European norms ; think you have to have a decent deposit but sounds like worth checking outnormilet wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:47 am I was secretly hoping house viewings would be stopped during level 5 just to get a break from the unrelenting horror of trying to buy a house in Dublin, but no such luck. Masks, hand sanitizer, no more than 2 people from the same household, 15 minute time limit etc. are the norm, but some agents seem to be more lax than others (up to 6 couples and associated kids in tow in the house at once).
They are making it a requirement to show proof of funds before you can even do a viewing though, I guess to make sure only people who are serious are attending.
On a related note, wtf is going on with the market at the moment? I thought mass unemployment generally lead to a decrease in house prices, not a f*cking spike.
The only thing I can think of is that stock has to be very low, and the buyers we are competing with haven't lost their incomes because of covid, and have probably saved a ton of cash over the last 6 months or so. I'm seeing houses going for 50-60k above asking. Maybe I just have an eye for the better deals but I doubt it!
CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:42 am Hospital numbers going down midweek as expected. 40 discharges in the last 24 hours (19 admissions). We really do need to look at our processes for what happens with respiratory diseases at the weekend. A lot of which don't need to actually be admitted but once you're at the hospital, their hands are mostly tied.
yup, you'd have to think that there's got to be a blood bath coming in terms of house prices given the state of the economy ; granted like you said its mostly lowered paid workers suffering the most currently but plenty of middle/high earners taking 10% to 20% pay cuts and while things are moving along nicely for this income bracket for now you wouldn't bet the house literally on it going on indefinitelyMullet 2 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:31 amYeah I'm looking to buy but this has a serious calm before the storm vibe.normilet wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:47 am I was secretly hoping house viewings would be stopped during level 5 just to get a break from the unrelenting horror of trying to buy a house in Dublin, but no such luck. Masks, hand sanitizer, no more than 2 people from the same household, 15 minute time limit etc. are the norm, but some agents seem to be more lax than others (up to 6 couples and associated kids in tow in the house at once).
They are making it a requirement to show proof of funds before you can even do a viewing though, I guess to make sure only people who are serious are attending.
On a related note, wtf is going on with the market at the moment? I thought mass unemployment generally lead to a decrease in house prices, not a f*cking spike.
The only thing I can think of is that stock has to be very low, and the buyers we are competing with haven't lost their incomes because of covid, and have probably saved a ton of cash over the last 6 months or so. I'm seeing houses going for 50-60k above asking. Maybe I just have an eye for the better deals but I doubt it!
When the market doesnt follow the real economy to this extent something is wrong.
But it is also overwhelming lower paid workers being let go and frankly they are priced out even at the bottom.
It would depend on your definition of working and how much the threat of 5 modified behaviour (and if it never materialised, would people 'unmodify' their behaviour) . Hospitals can cope with the current situation, a situation that is only now going to see an impact from level 5 from today at the earliestticketlessinseattle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:53 amCM11 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:42 am Hospital numbers going down midweek as expected. 40 discharges in the last 24 hours (19 admissions). We really do need to look at our processes for what happens with respiratory diseases at the weekend. A lot of which don't need to actually be admitted but once you're at the hospital, their hands are mostly tied.
so level 3 was working fine then ?
Processes? Where do you start?CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:42 am Hospital numbers going down midweek as expected. 40 discharges in the last 24 hours (19 admissions). We really do need to look at our processes for what happens with respiratory diseases at the weekend. A lot of which don't need to actually be admitted but once you're at the hospital, their hands are mostly tied.
Yep. We've done it all on here before.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:08 amProcesses? Where do you start?CM11 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:42 am Hospital numbers going down midweek as expected. 40 discharges in the last 24 hours (19 admissions). We really do need to look at our processes for what happens with respiratory diseases at the weekend. A lot of which don't need to actually be admitted but once you're at the hospital, their hands are mostly tied.
A crappy primary care service run mostly by GP’s who try to run small semi-private businesses in a patchwork network of wholly inadequate facilities.
A 5 day week 9-5 healthcare service that is frequently overwhelmed
A reliance on sending people into A&E along with all the other sports injuries, drunks, elderly, heart attacks etc when the GP can’t handle it
A fee structure that means it is often easier for some people to attend A&E out of hours
Some "white-collar" sectors are being hit badly by Covid, law, air-travel, aircraft-leasing, etc, but an awful lot of financial gigs, tech jobs, etc, are completely unaffected by all of this.TheBouncer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:13 am Only thing that got me through spring was the pending house price collapse. I am in disbelief looking around.
Cant wait for it to unravel though, I'm at my wits end sharing.
I guess most of the stock are people wanting to sell as opposed to being forced to and ditto for purchasers.TheBouncer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:13 am Only thing that got me through spring was the pending house price collapse. I am in disbelief looking around.
Cant wait for it to unravel though, I'm at my wits end sharing.
yup, its the straight face test from what I can tell ; I'm up and down to Kilkenny twice a week at the moment and there's one checkpoint coming into Kilkenny where every one is stopped, I've yet to be asked for a work letter but colleague of mine was asked yesterday for first time ; she's 26 so maybe just fits the profileNolanator wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:15 am Drove into town this morning for work. Garda checkpoint just outside Donneybrook asking people what they were doing.
No tailback, they were probably spending less than 30 seconds with each car. Just mentioned that I was going to work and she didn't even want to see my letter. They seemed happy if you could give a halfway coherent answer.
As in good looking and they wanted to stop her for longerticketlessinseattle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:22 amyup, its the straight face test from what I can tell ; I'm up and down to Kilkenny twice a week at the moment and there's one checkpoint coming into Kilkenny where every one is stopped, I've yet to be asked for a work letter but colleague of mine was asked yesterday for first time ; she's 26 so maybe just fits the profileNolanator wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:15 am Drove into town this morning for work. Garda checkpoint just outside Donneybrook asking people what they were doing.
No tailback, they were probably spending less than 30 seconds with each car. Just mentioned that I was going to work and she didn't even want to see my letter. They seemed happy if you could give a halfway coherent answer.
