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iarmhiman wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:14 am I will say this:

If there is to be a lockdown, better now than Christmas.
:lol: As if it’s an either or. Cases won’t be down over winter. They’ve backed themselves into a position that they have to recommend lockdown until we have a vaccine distributed to 70%+ of the population
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There is the chance NPHET's advise has majority support from the public. Going by the comment on Ciara's twitter account there is large support for a lockdown.

As this government is populist, you'd have to fear they may go with what they believe is the popular decision.
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iarmhiman wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:23 pm There is the chance NPHET's advise has majority support from the public. Going by the comment on Ciara's twitter account there is large support for a lockdown.

As this government is populist, you'd have to fear they may go with what they believe is the popular decision.
Karens gonna Karen but yeah I agree - most people will err on the side of what they perceive to be the safest approach. It comes down to our intrinsic lack of ability to assess risk.
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CM11 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:51 am I see the teachers are questioning remaining open at level 5.

Another group that doesn't quite get it.
If you agree with NPHET that we have to Lockdown, then you have to shut the schools.

Otherwise they will be "disease reservoirs" as the kids spread respiratory illnesses to each other and then they bring the bugs home to the family, regardless of distancing and masking practices...


I personally don't think this flu warrants it. But I have been pretty clear of the group psychosis the country is under from NPHET. They are overreacting in a way no other public health authority is in Europe. We are going to be the only country in Europe with no indoor dining and don't mention the wet pubs ...
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Huge numbers of those Karen's are sitting on their arse at home on the Covid better off than they were 6 months ago. Quelle supplies they want a lockdown. They don't have to think how we pay for it as Mary Lou will sort it out with the Apples money. In fact Mary Lou was saying the Covid should be the average industrial wage and my Tom is going off then as well as he has gout
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Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:22 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:14 am I will say this:

If there is to be a lockdown, better now than Christmas.
:lol: As if it’s an either or. Cases won’t be down over winter. They’ve backed themselves into a position that they have to recommend lockdown until we have a vaccine distributed to 70%+ of the population
There’s definitely more people who have turned against them but NPHET are still infallible to many.

Varadkar’s retweet of Dan O’Brien shows he’s not happy with NPHET’s carry over the last 24 hours.
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EverReady wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:35 pm Huge numbers of those Karen's are sitting on their arse at home on the Covid better off than they were 6 months ago. Quelle supplies they want a lockdown. They don't have to think how we pay for it as Mary Lou will sort it out with the Apples money. In fact Mary Lou was saying the Covid should be the average industrial wage and my Tom is going off then as well as he has gout
They will struggle to keep schools open at Level 5 because of how they played this.

This all comes back to April and May and the failure to have an honest discussion about risk and what the real costs of this are.
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EverReady wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:35 pm Huge numbers of those Karen's are sitting on their arse at home on the Covid better off than they were 6 months ago. Quelle supplies they want a lockdown. They don't have to think how we pay for it as Mary Lou will sort it out with the Apples money. In fact Mary Lou was saying the Covid should be the average industrial wage and my Tom is going off then as well as he has gout
You've gone volte- face to the right this year, you should change your user name to Everidiri.
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:38 pm
EverReady wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:35 pm Huge numbers of those Karen's are sitting on their arse at home on the Covid better off than they were 6 months ago. Quelle supplies they want a lockdown. They don't have to think how we pay for it as Mary Lou will sort it out with the Apples money. In fact Mary Lou was saying the Covid should be the average industrial wage and my Tom is going off then as well as he has gout
They will struggle to keep schools open at Level 5 because of how they played this.

This all comes back to April and May and the failure to have an honest discussion about risk and what the real costs of this are.
I'm not sure anything that happened in April or May has anything to do with this. This is just NPHET shitting the bed for no understandable reason.
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:36 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:22 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:14 am I will say this:

If there is to be a lockdown, better now than Christmas.
:lol: As if it’s an either or. Cases won’t be down over winter. They’ve backed themselves into a position that they have to recommend lockdown until we have a vaccine distributed to 70%+ of the population
There’s definitely more people who have turned against them but NPHET are still infallible to many.

Varadkar’s retweet of Dan O’Brien shows he’s not happy with NPHET’s carry over the last 24 hours.
Leo is head of Enterprise and Business. I reckon IBEC and other business lobby groups are in his ear constantly.

It's on him if businesses fold. He knows this and that's why I think he may object today.
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camroc1 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:44 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:38 pm
EverReady wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:35 pm Huge numbers of those Karen's are sitting on their arse at home on the Covid better off than they were 6 months ago. Quelle supplies they want a lockdown. They don't have to think how we pay for it as Mary Lou will sort it out with the Apples money. In fact Mary Lou was saying the Covid should be the average industrial wage and my Tom is going off then as well as he has gout
They will struggle to keep schools open at Level 5 because of how they played this.

This all comes back to April and May and the failure to have an honest discussion about risk and what the real costs of this are.
I'm not sure anything that happened in April or May has anything to do with this. This is just NPHET shitting the bed for no understandable reason.
Nah Cam, this comes back right to then.

NPHET and public health never thought they could have such a sustained lockdown but once they saw they could, they weren’t just gonna give that up. It’s clear that the real goal for NPHET was to suppress the virus. They wanted air quarantine in facilities. Holohan wanted a snales pace reopening behind everyone else.

I asked the question in mid April as to why we weren’t even having a national discussion on reopening. The targets set had been reached. The Danes have been quite restrictive but the first thing we saw from them once they saw ICU’s peak was a discussion on reopening things. They were told by their PM that the cure could be worse than the disease. In the likes of Norway they had honest discussion on the same and said things like closing schools shouldn’t have happened.

We moved from flattening to suppression and many went along with that as they thought we could further prepare for a second wave. But the rhetoric was all about saving lives and how great we were for sitting at home. Varadkar cowed immediately on schools once Holohan said no and why wouldn’t he, he was their self created national superhero.
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iarmhiman wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:03 pm
CM11 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:01 pm It has to be Tony coming back and going 'Wtf are you at lads?!'.
Donnelly is weak. This will require some balls from Micheal.
I think Michael tested negative for balls a number of times now
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The NPHET letter really puts the government in a sticky place.
The State needs to move to Level 5 in the Covid-19 roadmap as measures currently in place are not sufficiently controlling the disease as evidenced by “high volume of community transmission”, public health officials have told the Government.

The letter sent on Sunday by the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) to Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly, seen by The Irish Times, warns of a “significant and deteriorating” epidemiological situation.

It recommends that Level 5 measures be introduced from midnight tonight for four weeks. It says NPHET is sensitive to the impact on businesses, individuals and families but that the action is “the only opportunity to get this disease back under control while keeping schools open”.

It says a graduated approach would ultimately result in Level 5 measures being put in place, whereas an immediate enactment of the harshest measures will prevent deaths, protect vulnerable people and enable schools to remain open.

“The proposed measures will only be effective if there is broad societal buy in and adherence over the coming four week period,” it warns.

“Nphet advises that it is vital to do everything in our power now to arrest the current t trajectory nationally and suppress the virus back down to a low level of transmission in advance of the winter months.”

Chief medical officer and NPHET member Dr Tony Holohan is meeting the leaders of Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and the Green Party on Monday to discuss the latest advice.

Community transmission
The letter states that the measures currently in place are not sufficiently controlling the disease, as evidenced by “high volume of community transmission and sustained increases across key indicators” since Thursday.

Metrics cited in include the total number of cases increasing by 6 per cent in the last week of September, increases in the five, seven and 14 day incidence rates of the disease, an increase in the proportion of positive tests, and increases in the level of infection among people aged over 65.

It also points to 31 open outbreaks in nursing homes, seven of which have been reported in the last week. There are 25 open outbreaks among vulnerable communities, with 10 in direct provision centre, seven in homeless services, and seven in Traveller communities.

NPHET wrote that admissions to critical care services have grown to an average of two per day, with 243 out of 281 critical care beds now occupied.

It said that, if current trends continue, some 1,600 to 2,300 cases per day will be being reported by Novemver 7th, with 43 people per day being admitted to hospital by that date.

“In the light of the above, NPHET believes that proactive and robust measures must now be taken such that very significant suppression of the disease with a reproduction number well below 1.0 is achieved,” the letter states.

It calls for an emphasis on communications which “provide clarity on the measures in place”. It says there should be an “immediate activation” by State agencies to ensure necessary services are in areas such as physical and mental health and social care.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:19 pm
CM11 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:06 pm Just looking at the testing dashboard and I really don't get it. Referrals are, at worst, the same as the previous week, and tests are down. Yes hospitalisations are increasing but still manageable. It just doesn't make sense to be so drastic.
You don’t introduce a 5 level system and then propose jumping from level 3 to 5 unless something seriously dramatic has happened. Yes cases are up but hospitalisations, the only thing that really matters and the entire point of lockdown, are only slightly up. The only really significant change is that Tony is back. This is mental.
its like the boss is back from holidays and everyone is running around scrambling to get their TPS reports sorted ; as you said there needs to be a very clearly communicated logical explanation for such a drastic escalation as by passing level 4 at such short notice ; aren't there plenty of counties at level 2 ?
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Is this true? :lol:
Sam McConkeys latest wonderful idea "give all teenagers new phones but on the condition that the covid app has to be installed on it"
WHY THE fudge IS HE ALWAYS ON THE AIR WITH THESE RIDICULOUS IDEAS!!
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Metrics cited in include the total number of cases increasing by 6 per cent in the last week of September, increases in the five, seven and 14 day incidence rates of the disease, an increase in the proportion of positive tests, and increases in the level of infection among people aged over 65.

It also points to 31 open outbreaks in nursing homes, seven of which have been reported in the last week. There are 25 open outbreaks among vulnerable communities, with 10 in direct provision centre, seven in homeless services, and seven in Traveller communities.

NPHET wrote that admissions to critical care services have grown to an average of two per day, with 243 out of 281 critical care beds now occupied.

It said that, if current trends continue, some 1,600 to 2,300 cases per day will be being reported by Novemver 7th, with 43 people per day being admitted to hospital by that date.


cut and pasted from above

and what is the impact of a 6% increase that we need such drastic measures ?
speaking of 6% maybe implement tighter measures and provide more safeguards in the vulnerable sectors of our community that represent a tiny % of the total population.
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The north can't afford a level 5 style lockdown per RTE. So the Sinn Minister for Finance (maybe Mary Lou should have a chat with him) is going to London with the begging bowl out. You couldn't make it up.
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:13 pm Is this true? :lol:
Sam McConkeys latest wonderful idea "give all teenagers new phones but on the condition that the covid app has to be installed on it"
WHY THE fudge IS HE ALWAYS ON THE AIR WITH THESE RIDICULOUS IDEAS!!
Yup, I heard the interview. He wants a scrappage scheme for nokia blocks as he called them. La la and.
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It also points to 31 open outbreaks in nursing homes, seven of which have been reported in the last week. There are 25 open outbreaks among vulnerable communities, with 10 in direct provision centre, seven in homeless services, and seven in Traveller communities.
So the entire country is to be put on lockdown because the HSE/Public Health have failed to protect Nursing Homes, Direct Provision Centres, Homeless Services and Travellers, all groups known to be susceptible since April/May. And this despite spending billions.

It's like they're punishing businesses and the general public for their own failures.
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Gavin Duffy wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:15 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:13 pm Is this true? :lol:
Sam McConkeys latest wonderful idea "give all teenagers new phones but on the condition that the covid app has to be installed on it"
WHY THE fudge IS HE ALWAYS ON THE AIR WITH THESE RIDICULOUS IDEAS!!
Yup, I heard the interview. He wants a scrappage scheme for nokia blocks as he called them. La la and.
Jesus Christ
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camroc1 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:19 pm
It also points to 31 open outbreaks in nursing homes, seven of which have been reported in the last week. There are 25 open outbreaks among vulnerable communities, with 10 in direct provision centre, seven in homeless services, and seven in Traveller communities.
So the entire country is to be put on lockdown because the HSE/Public Health have failed to protect Nursing Homes, Direct Provision Centres, Homeless Services and Travellers, all groups known to be susceptible since April/May. And this despite spending billions.

It's like they're punishing businesses and the general public for their own failures.
exactly ; same point David Quinn was making months ago - bizarrely I'm agreeing with an awful lot of stuff he's been writing lately
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camroc1 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:44 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:38 pm
EverReady wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:35 pm Huge numbers of those Karen's are sitting on their arse at home on the Covid better off than they were 6 months ago. Quelle supplies they want a lockdown. They don't have to think how we pay for it as Mary Lou will sort it out with the Apples money. In fact Mary Lou was saying the Covid should be the average industrial wage and my Tom is going off then as well as he has gout
They will struggle to keep schools open at Level 5 because of how they played this.

This all comes back to April and May and the failure to have an honest discussion about risk and what the real costs of this are.
I'm not sure anything that happened in April or May has anything to do with this. This is just NPHET shitting the bed for no understandable reason.
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ticketlessinseattle wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:13 pm Metrics cited in include the total number of cases increasing by 6 per cent in the last week of September, increases in the five, seven and 14 day incidence rates of the disease, an increase in the proportion of positive tests, and increases in the level of infection among people aged over 65.

It also points to 31 open outbreaks in nursing homes, seven of which have been reported in the last week. There are 25 open outbreaks among vulnerable communities, with 10 in direct provision centre, seven in homeless services, and seven in Traveller communities.

NPHET wrote that admissions to critical care services have grown to an average of two per day, with 243 out of 281 critical care beds now occupied.

It said that, if current trends continue, some 1,600 to 2,300 cases per day will be being reported by Novemver 7th, with 43 people per day being admitted to hospital by that date.


cut and pasted from above

and what is the impact of a 6% increase that we need such drastic measures ?
speaking of 6% maybe implement tighter measures and provide more safeguards in the vulnerable sectors of our community that represent a tiny % of the total population.
NPHET know well that there are significantly more ICU beds than 281.
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Anyho, I googled 'RTE News' there and the first item in the 'People also ask' section is
What is wring with Eileen Dunne's Eyes?
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Even discounting the private hospitals, in addition to ICU beds (ie one ICU nurse per bed), all Irish hospitals have High Dependency Units, which are basically ICU with 1 ICU nurse per 3/4 beds. There's a lot of playing around with definitions going on, and hospital politics being played out.
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Gavin Duffy wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:14 pm The north can't afford a level 5 style lockdown per RTE. So the Sinn Minister for Finance (maybe Mary Lou should have a chat with him) is going to London with the begging bowl out. You couldn't make it up.
We couldn't afford anything before lockdown anyway sure so it'll be no change.
SF have never shied away from asking London for more money while complaining about British government intervention in NI tbf.
You boys are completely f**ked if a United Ireland happens in the next 20 years given the economic fallout from Covid.
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ticketlessinseattle wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:09 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:19 pm
CM11 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:06 pm Just looking at the testing dashboard and I really don't get it. Referrals are, at worst, the same as the previous week, and tests are down. Yes hospitalisations are increasing but still manageable. It just doesn't make sense to be so drastic.
You don’t introduce a 5 level system and then propose jumping from level 3 to 5 unless something seriously dramatic has happened. Yes cases are up but hospitalisations, the only thing that really matters and the entire point of lockdown, are only slightly up. The only really significant change is that Tony is back. This is mental.
its like the boss is back from holidays and everyone is running around scrambling to get their TPS reports sorted ; as you said there needs to be a very clearly communicated logical explanation for such a drastic escalation as by passing level 4 at such short notice ; aren't there plenty of counties at level 2 ?
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Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:23 pm
camroc1 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:44 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:38 pm
EverReady wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:35 pm Huge numbers of those Karen's are sitting on their arse at home on the Covid better off than they were 6 months ago. Quelle supplies they want a lockdown. They don't have to think how we pay for it as Mary Lou will sort it out with the Apples money. In fact Mary Lou was saying the Covid should be the average industrial wage and my Tom is going off then as well as he has gout
They will struggle to keep schools open at Level 5 because of how they played this.

This all comes back to April and May and the failure to have an honest discussion about risk and what the real costs of this are.
I'm not sure anything that happened in April or May has anything to do with this. This is just NPHET shitting the bed for no understandable reason.
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lorcanoworms wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:44 pm
EverReady wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:35 pm Huge numbers of those Karen's are sitting on their arse at home on the Covid better off than they were 6 months ago. Quelle supplies they want a lockdown. They don't have to think how we pay for it as Mary Lou will sort it out with the Apples money. In fact Mary Lou was saying the Covid should be the average industrial wage and my Tom is going off then as well as he has gout
You've gone volte- face to the right this year, you should change your user name to Everidiri.
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GAA suspends all matches. They're getting a lot of bad press today!


Saw this comment on the Journal. :roll:
there are literally vulnerable people dying from lack of oxygen, pneumonia and heart conditions by proxy of this virus and your concern is you have to live in an apartment that you chose to live in, With someone you chose to be with, With a kid you chose to have?

Cop on and suck it up.
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Nolanator wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:53 pm GAA suspends all matches. They're getting a lot of bad press today!


Saw this comment on the Journal. :roll:
there are literally vulnerable people dying from lack of oxygen, pneumonia and heart conditions by proxy of this virus and your concern is you have to live in an apartment that you chose to live in, With someone you chose to be with, With a kid you chose to have?

Cop on and suck it up.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Mullet 2 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:13 pm :lol: :lol: :lol:
It was you, wasn't it?
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Reading some of those Journal comments , I know at least two of those posters.
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More restriction doesn't mean sudden lockdown https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4372433
Most people want more, not fewer, restrictions, survey shows – ESRI expert
Opposition to Covid-19 measures ‘miles off’ quiet majority’s view, says Prof Pete Lunn

There is a “clear disjunction” between public debate objections to more Covid-19 restrictions and a majority who want stronger measures to suppress the virus, a behavioural scientist has said.

Prof Pete Lunn, head of behavioural research at think tank ESRI, said that public polling over recent months suggested the public debate was “miles off” the opinion of the majority of the population who want the Government to be more cautious in fighting coronavirus.

Prof Lunn said the Government still needed to be “nuanced” in its message over a possible move to Level 5 – the most severe restrictions under the Covid-19 response plan as proposed by the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) – as it is unclear how people will react.

Surveys and evidence gathered on public attitudes towards restrictions are not showing fatigue with the restrictions but “a degree of resilience” and compliance has been “edging up” consistently over recent months, he said.

“That suggests that there is a majority appetite that says, ‘we can cope with this’ and in fact, on balance, the public wants more restriction rather than fewer,” said Prof Lunn, who is a member of a subgroup that has advised NPHET on the public response to the pandemic.

The most recent data from the tracking survey by Amárach for the Department of Health, published at the end of last month, shows 53 per cent of people polled believe that Government’s response has been “appropriate” – down from a high of 83 per cent in April.

Some 40 per cent of people believe that the measures have been “insufficient” – up from a low of 12 per cent in May – while just 7 per cent of people say that the Government’s measures have been “too extreme”, down from a high of 12 per cent in the first week of September.


In response to whether the Government should go further, 54 per cent of people said last week that more restrictions should be introduced, compared with 27 per cent who said they should not.

“The major picture that comes through from the tracking surveys and other evidence is that consistently, since about June, the public has wanted the Government to be more cautious and put on more restrictions,” said Prof Lunn.

He said that public debate around restrictions has been led by lobby groups, journalists and “people who want to be more active” but there was a “quiet group of citizens who don’t because they are scared of this disease and they want the Government to be more cautious.”

“While I accept there is clearly a fatigue and a tiredness, it is not manifesting itself as of now in substantial numbers of people either saying that they are breaking the restrictions and they don’t accept them or suggesting that they shouldn’t be there,” he said.

Prof Lunn said that how public opinion responds to any argument for more restrictions will be important but that it was also important to understand that only a minority will react badly.

Ian Robertson, emeritus professor of psychology at Trinity College Dublin, said there was no data available on how people might react to the “shock” of going back into lockdown again, from the Level 2 or 3 restrictions that are currently in place up to Level 5.

But the public might buy a “carefully crafted” message that this was an emergency measure for a limited period, four weeks, to give the virus “a severe beating to allow us to get back,” he said.

“People are actually quite frightened about the virus and they are very aware of the risks to them of a minority of people breaking the rules very flagrantly and publicly, and this makes them feel anxious and makes many people in favour of tighter restrictions,” he said
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Shinners got the most first preferences. Along with them, the Trots and various fückwit Indos they could be running the country now. Is that his point?
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The polling in France is the same as per the article earlier.

The lads are not the silent majority but are in fact clearly the vocal minority.

Not withstanding Gavin's extensive whatsapp survey
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Mullet 2 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:49 pm The polling in France is the same as per the article earlier.

The lads are not the silent majority but are in fact clearly the vocal minority.

Not withstanding Gavin's extensive whatsapp survey
I don't pal around with morons tbf. Skewed the results I guess.
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Botha Boy wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:48 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:23 pm
camroc1 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:44 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:38 pm
EverReady wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:35 pm Huge numbers of those Karen's are sitting on their arse at home on the Covid better off than they were 6 months ago. Quelle supplies they want a lockdown. They don't have to think how we pay for it as Mary Lou will sort it out with the Apples money. In fact Mary Lou was saying the Covid should be the average industrial wage and my Tom is going off then as well as he has gout
They will struggle to keep schools open at Level 5 because of how they played this.

This all comes back to April and May and the failure to have an honest discussion about risk and what the real costs of this are.
I'm not sure anything that happened in April or May has anything to do with this. This is just NPHET shitting the bed for no understandable reason.
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Good stuff again from the Government, this must be one of the most farcical plans ever concocted. And they spent the whole summer on it.

https://twitter.com/seandefoe/status/13 ... 69088?s=21
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