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Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:46 am
by CM11
Botha Boy wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:38 am
paddyor wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:29 pm The reporting of the death of the 17 year old in NI, is it a bit off? The dad seems to think it was the underlying condition. He tested negative last week having been positive a month before.

https://www.derrynow.com/news/news/5846 ... ictim.html

Did he die 'of being fat' or 'with being fat' ? ... :((

More propaganda from the people who brought you the 35 year old with allegedly no underlying condition who lost 3.5 stone from his Covid19 infection and was left with diabetes and hypertension.

"It's a nasty little infection you young'uns wouldn't want to catch " ... :roll: :D :twisted:
That's really pathetic. Is there any line you won't cross with your stupid, insensitive smileys?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:58 am
by Leinsterman
Depends whose arse he's kissing on Twitter this week.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:00 am
by Botha Boy
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:46 am
Botha Boy wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:38 am
paddyor wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:29 pm The reporting of the death of the 17 year old in NI, is it a bit off? The dad seems to think it was the underlying condition. He tested negative last week having been positive a month before.

https://www.derrynow.com/news/news/5846 ... ictim.html

Did he die 'of being fat' or 'with being fat' ? ... :((

More propaganda from the people who brought you the 35 year old with allegedly no underlying condition who lost 3.5 stone from his Covid19 infection and was left with diabetes and hypertension.

"It's a nasty little infection you young'uns wouldn't want to catch " ... :roll: :D :twisted:
That's really pathetic. Is there any line you won't cross with your stupid, insensitive smileys?

Their insensitive propaganda, not mine ... castigate them, why don't you, or are you still tugging your forelock to your NPHET overlords ? ... :lol: :lol: :lol: ... why did they position this and the other story ? Why ? ...

They discussed this case and decided it was a good idea to position this person to reinforce the public of a particular message ... the very definition of propaganda.

I am just shining the torch-light on it , with a touch of hyperbole, for the impartial third party to make their own mind up on it. It may be uncomfortable reading for you, but ask yourself why that is ?

And if they do it again, I will call them out again ... it does no good to let them away with it ...

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:10 am
by Botha Boy
Leinsterman wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:58 am Depends whose arse he's kissing on Twitter this week.

It's reassuring to know that I have you following me every day ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

By the way, Domini says "Hi !" ... :D :lol: :lol:

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:28 am
by CM11
You're trolling using the death of a child, you pathetic twat.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:40 am
by Botha Boy
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:28 am You're trolling using the death of a child, you pathetic twat.
They chose their weapons and are getting called out on it ... and not for the first time ...

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:47 am
by Jim Lahey
Gents, may have the mother in law visiting in Feb. Its easier for her to fly into Dublin and have one less stop on her journey, and its easier for me for her to fly to LHR then onto Belfast City obviously rather than having to pick her up in Dublin.

Assuming everything is still f**ked come Feb and you lads are still at Level 4 or 5, how easy is it for a non-EU citizen to pass through Dublin airport? She’s been living under lockdown pretty much since March so she’s safe, and will more than happily self-isolate for 14 days with her grandkids in our house ( :uhoh: ). Then what’s the craic with getting her north? Any laws against that?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:02 am
by Blackrock Bullet
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:47 am Gents, may have the mother in law visiting in Feb. Its easier for her to fly into Dublin and have one less stop on her journey, and its easier for me for her to fly to LHR then onto Belfast City obviously rather than having to pick her up in Dublin.

Assuming everything is still f**ked come Feb and you lads are still at Level 4 or 5, how easy is it for a non-EU citizen to pass through Dublin airport? She’s been living under lockdown pretty much since March so she’s safe, and will more than happily self-isolate for 14 days with her grandkids in our house ( :uhoh: ). Then what’s the craic with getting her north? Any laws against that?
Nobody is getting stopped, regardless of where they have come from or what Level we are on.

Where is she flying from?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:05 am
by Blackrock Bullet
Leinsterman wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:34 pm
paddyor wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:29 pm The reporting of the death of the 17 year old in NI, is it a bit off? The dad seems to think it was the underlying condition. He tested negative last week having been positive a month before.

https://www.derrynow.com/news/news/5846 ... ictim.html
The press have been gagging for a death in this demographic for months. It's similar to when they wheeled out the healthcare workers a month or two back who ended up on ventilators.

God help us all if a poor child dies from it here. Just watch the feeding frenzy that will ensue x(
They’re still wheeling them out on RTÉ. The yoof are all watching RTÉ to hear about the latest person who was “floored” after it.

In terms of this chap, very sad story, regardless of the father willing to talk the media really should engage in some discretion in reporting these things.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:12 am
by Leinsterman
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:47 am Gents, may have the mother in law visiting in Feb. Its easier for her to fly into Dublin and have one less stop on her journey, and its easier for me for her to fly to LHR then onto Belfast City obviously rather than having to pick her up in Dublin.

Assuming everything is still f**ked come Feb and you lads are still at Level 4 or 5, how easy is it for a non-EU citizen to pass through Dublin airport? She’s been living under lockdown pretty much since March so she’s safe, and will more than happily self-isolate for 14 days with her grandkids in our house ( :uhoh: ). Then what’s the craic with getting her north? Any laws against that?
Tell her "fcuk off, we're full"

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:13 am
by Jim Lahey
The media have handled the death of this poor lad disgracefully. Zero accountability as per usual. No repercussions for it. No apologies for crying wolf and getting it wrong. The kunts will sensationalise anything to get clicks.

Try and call them out for acting the kunt and then you get hit with the old "free speech" and press censorship argument.

There should be heavy fines for throwing fake/sensationalist news or factually incorrect news into the public domain. That will make them think twice about doing a bit of due diligence.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:19 am
by Jim Lahey
Leinsterman wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:12 am
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:47 am Gents, may have the mother in law visiting in Feb. Its easier for her to fly into Dublin and have one less stop on her journey, and its easier for me for her to fly to LHR then onto Belfast City obviously rather than having to pick her up in Dublin.

Assuming everything is still f**ked come Feb and you lads are still at Level 4 or 5, how easy is it for a non-EU citizen to pass through Dublin airport? She’s been living under lockdown pretty much since March so she’s safe, and will more than happily self-isolate for 14 days with her grandkids in our house ( :uhoh: ). Then what’s the craic with getting her north? Any laws against that?
Tell her "fcuk off, we're full"
:lol: :lol:

The missus and I will have been locked in a house with 3 monsters for the best part of a year by that stage. Her catching up on granny duties = us going out for dinner/pints, or even a night or two away :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: (covid-permitting).

I'd consider having Jedward as au-pairs for the month at that point.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:52 am
by paddyor
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:13 am The media have handled the death of this poor lad disgracefully. Zero accountability as per usual. No repercussions for it. No apologies for crying wolf and getting it wrong. The kunts will sensationalise anything to get clicks.

Try and call them out for acting the kunt and then you get hit with the old "free speech" and press censorship argument.

There should be heavy fines for throwing fake/sensationalist news or factually incorrect news into the public domain. That will make them think twice about doing a bit of due diligence.
It is as bad as it looks isn't it?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:34 am
by anonymous_joe
EverReady wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:36 pm
anonymous_joe wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:30 pm
EverReady wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:15 pm Would Corbyn be suspended in Ireland? I think we all know the answer to this.
Ireland is pretty dodgy on anti-semitism.

I've heard pretty shocking stuff from well-educated people.
Yep. I have been in rooms with otherwise sensible people crapping on about the West Bank and Nablus and blockades with about as surface a knowledge you could have. They cross party lines and they are invariably completely misinformed. It's wrapped up in the PLO/IRA bit and the peace keeping soldiers were always good for a story about how the Palestinian women who sold them trinkets had an uncle shot while riding around on a cow. The whole thing is a shit show but we long ago took sides
When I was younger (and more of a troll) I used to bring up LGBT rights in the middle-east to piss that crowd off.

Nothing beats watching some young keffiyah clad cúnt justify throwing gay lads off buildings.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:54 am
by Nolanator
UK government talking about introducing a tier 4 restriction level, just after implimenting their 3-tier model.
No-one's plans are working out.


Mind you, they explicitly didn't outline any kind of plan that involves almost full lockdown like here. Seems almost wistful thinking that there wouldn't be a situation where they'd need to force shops to close, particularly with their regional approach.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am
by CM11
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/clo ... 84604.html

Miriam pointing out the elephant in the room. A raft of things that are every day items deemed non essential but alcohol is essential?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:01 am
by Gavin Duffy
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/clo ... 84604.html

Miriam pointing out the elephant in the room. A raft of things that are every day items deemed non essential but alcohol is essential?
Well, you could say the same for lots of things - milk, chips, pizzas whatever.

Maybe limit people to potatoes and water for the duration.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:09 am
by CM11
Gavin Duffy wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:01 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/clo ... 84604.html

Miriam pointing out the elephant in the room. A raft of things that are every day items deemed non essential but alcohol is essential?
Well, you could say the same for lots of things - milk, chips, pizzas whatever.

Maybe limit people to potatoes and water for the duration.
Absolutely you could but I think for ease saying groceries comes under one heading doesn't take from my point.

The statement 'clothes aren't essential' as a standalone statement doesn't exactly stand up to scrutiny, does it? In the same way saying 'groceries aren't essential' is a more extreme example.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:11 am
by Leinsterman
Gavin Duffy wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:01 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/clo ... 84604.html

Miriam pointing out the elephant in the room. A raft of things that are every day items deemed non essential but alcohol is essential?
Well, you could say the same for lots of things - milk, chips, pizzas whatever.

Maybe limit people to potatoes and water for the duration.
You can make poitín from spuds and water 8)

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:12 am
by Duff Paddy
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:09 am
Gavin Duffy wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:01 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/clo ... 84604.html

Miriam pointing out the elephant in the room. A raft of things that are every day items deemed non essential but alcohol is essential?
Well, you could say the same for lots of things - milk, chips, pizzas whatever.

Maybe limit people to potatoes and water for the duration.
Absolutely you could but I think for ease saying groceries comes under one heading doesn't take from my point.

The statement 'clothes aren't essential' as a standalone statement doesn't exactly stand up to scrutiny, does it? In the same way saying 'groceries aren't essential' is a more extreme example.
It’s not that clothes aren’t essential.
It’s that buying clothes isn’t an essential reason to leave your house.

Fair point on the alcohol but they probably figured a prolonged lockdown without drink in Ireland would be doomed to failure

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:14 am
by alliswell
Was talking to the brother in the states yesterday and he says most of the schools in his area haven't reopened. A few private schools that could afford a serial testing program went back but the public schools are still at home. Says daycare numbers have been greatly reduced too. Women dropping out of the workforce like flies.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:16 am
by camroc1
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/clo ... 84604.html

Miriam pointing out the elephant in the room. A raft of things that are every day items deemed non essential but alcohol is essential?
The buying process for both is different. People pick up, put down, try on etc cloths. You normally don't lick the bottle until it's yours......all yours.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:17 am
by iarmhiman
alliswell wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:14 am Was talking to the brother in the states yesterday and he says most of the schools in his area haven't reopened. A few private schools that could afford a serial testing program went back but the public schools are still at home. Says daycare numbers have been greatly reduced too. Women dropping out of the workforce like flies.
You have to stay working though.

None of this stay at home on full pay stuff

8)

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:20 am
by CM11
I get that clothes are trickier than groceries because some items and some shops really are non essential but basic clothing is still essential and the article makes the point that instead of helping small retailers be on an even keel, large retailers with a web presence are the ones to benefit.

Also the click and collect aspect of the current restrictions shoots your 'leave home' argument down, Duff. It does reduce footfall in the shops fair enough but you only have to walk around any area to see people aren't staying home at all.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:22 am
by CM11
camroc1 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:16 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/clo ... 84604.html

Miriam pointing out the elephant in the room. A raft of things that are every day items deemed non essential but alcohol is essential?
The buying process for both is different. People pick up, put down, try on etc cloths. You normally don't lick the bottle until it's yours......all yours.
See above.

Clearly boutique fashion shops aren't essential clothing but some clothing you just go and buy like groceries and alcohol. And certainly when you're buying wine in a decent wine shop, you can take your time selecting.

As far as I know, there hasn't been any trying on clothes since March?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:30 am
by alliswell
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:22 am
camroc1 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:16 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/clo ... 84604.html

Miriam pointing out the elephant in the room. A raft of things that are every day items deemed non essential but alcohol is essential?
The buying process for both is different. People pick up, put down, try on etc cloths. You normally don't lick the bottle until it's yours......all yours.
See above.

Clearly boutique fashion shops aren't essential clothing but some clothing you just go and buy like groceries and alcohol. And certainly when you're buying wine in a decent wine shop, you can take your time selecting.

As far as I know, there hasn't been any trying on clothes since March?
I'd imagine that Cam is one of the few people who spend as much time buying wine as he does clothes.

Also think that some places have open fitting rooms with clothes being cleaned or left for 72hrs after being tried on. There was talk of it on the radio anyway but I haven't been in a clothes shop for months so couldn't say for sure.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:31 am
by alliswell
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:17 am
alliswell wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:14 am Was talking to the brother in the states yesterday and he says most of the schools in his area haven't reopened. A few private schools that could afford a serial testing program went back but the public schools are still at home. Says daycare numbers have been greatly reduced too. Women dropping out of the workforce like flies.
You have to stay working though.

None of this stay at home on full pay stuff

8)
The conversation drove home to me just how heroic I am

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:32 am
by CM11
Fair enough on the trying on, hadn't heard that but I'd say not many doing it if it happened.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:33 am
by iarmhiman
alliswell wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:31 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:17 am
alliswell wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:14 am Was talking to the brother in the states yesterday and he says most of the schools in his area haven't reopened. A few private schools that could afford a serial testing program went back but the public schools are still at home. Says daycare numbers have been greatly reduced too. Women dropping out of the workforce like flies.
You have to stay working though.

None of this stay at home on full pay stuff

8)
The conversation drove home to me just how heroic I am
Agreed. Don't let me down. Don't listen to ASTI

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:40 am
by camroc1
alliswell wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:30 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:22 am
camroc1 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:16 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/clo ... 84604.html

Miriam pointing out the elephant in the room. A raft of things that are every day items deemed non essential but alcohol is essential?
The buying process for both is different. People pick up, put down, try on etc cloths. You normally don't lick the bottle until it's yours......all yours.
See above.

Clearly boutique fashion shops aren't essential clothing but some clothing you just go and buy like groceries and alcohol. And certainly when you're buying wine in a decent wine shop, you can take your time selecting.

As far as I know, there hasn't been any trying on clothes since March?
I'd imagine that Cam is one of the few people who spend as much time buying wine as he does clothes.

Also think that some places have open fitting rooms with clothes being cleaned or left for 72hrs after being tried on. There was talk of it on the radio anyway but I haven't been in a clothes shop for months so couldn't say for sure.
I'm male.

Of course it takes me much longer to choose wine.
Clothes: in, look at size, purchase, out.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:41 am
by iarmhiman
W38 L32 ????

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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:53 am
by Leinsterman
38 :lol:

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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:05 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
EverReady wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:05 pm
Floppykid wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:22 pm
EverReady wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:53 pm
Floppykid wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:38 pm Seems to be a big Palestinian flag contingent amongst head the ball shinners and woke young people alright.
Hugely. You will have Trevor Hogan go on ships trying to get through a blockade and everybody lose their knickers when they are arrested. It's a blockade because the Jewish public demand safety from their politicians and at that time Fatah and Hamas were at it. I have no idea what sort of future there is there. Gaza is completely unviable. Israel not much moreso with the West Bank protruding into it. Another proper war will bring the whole of North Africa and the Middle East into it as there are no Muslims on the sidelines anymore. Israel has just about got away with it for a long time and the US is pretty vulnerable these days.
I just accept I'll never understand the conflict well.
I've read a lot about it over the years. Met nice Israelis, met shit Israelis. The Jews trucked along nicely in the Ottoman Empire. Most lived in Rumelia which was basically the Balkans. No hassles until the 19th century when pogroms started there and all across North Africa and in the ME. Arab nationalism was partly the cause and the usual anti Jew dey tuk r jewbs crap. The question of whether Zionism was a cause of or came from the pogroms is debatable. Anyway come the 20th the race was on the populate the area west of Jordan and the Jews went from something like 5% in 1910 to 35% by the 40's. It was a total arse race in an attempt to get as many bums on seats as possible with the Arabs settling hundreds of thousands as did the Jews. The Jews would legally buy up the land and housing. The Arabs had seen the problem early on and had tried to out settle them so by the 40's you had like 2 million living there when something like 80k Arabs and Christians had lived there in the late 19th century. That's the big lie from the Palestinians that they are there forever. Most of them settled like motherfückers at the exact same time as the Jews.
hmmmm, I was with you until the last bit ; you said it was 5% Jews in 1910, what were the other 95% ? there was genuine legal purchase of land by the Jews but plenty of less than legal land grabbing ; what about the Balfour declaration which kicked off the whole influx and led to terrorist attacks on the British Empire by subsequent Israeli heads of state ; the 600,000 Palestinians that were fcuked out at the foundation of the Israeli state ; everyone has probably seen the map of Israel getting bigger and "Palestine" getting smaller ever since ; when you look at the death toll in the 2014 conflict you get a better sense of where things are more recently ; a total of 5 Israeli citizens were killed ; 540 Palestine kids alone were killed....but that happens when Israel bombs supposed UN shelters designated as off limits to protect kids ; Israel said they were aiming for a fella on the back of a motorbike but hey ! anyone, handy distraction on the thread from covid I guess

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:31 pm
by Duff Paddy
Leinsterman wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:53 am 38 :lol:
Oh a diet eh

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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:37 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
EverReady wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:29 pm I don't know what point you are trying to make Trevor but it is confused. Mine is filled with clarity and light. There was fück all people living there in the early 20th century. Jews started settling and then there was a settling race as the Arabs got spooked. As for the 600k kicked out they had only been living there for a small number of years. That's the lie. I realised it was absolute cock from the Arabs when they maintained the census taking while accurate in the whole of the Ottoman empire was way off in that tiny parcel of land. Now if your argument is the Jews shouldn't have tried to settle there as per Zionism well that's valid but then you get into the whole where would a Jewish homeland be. In the early 20th century there was a decent bet.
my point is that to make out that the entire conflict is down to jews just trying to get a bit of uninhabited marshland back in the early 20th century glosses over a few things...
I reckon their homeland should be up around Malahide btw.....

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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:48 pm
by camroc1
EverReady wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:29 pm I don't know what point you are trying to make Trevor but it is confused. Mine is filled with clarity and light. There was fück all people living there in the early 20th century. Jews started settling and then there was a settling race as the Arabs got spooked. As for the 600k kicked out they had only been living there for a small number of years. That's the lie. I realised it was absolute cock from the Arabs when they maintained the census taking while accurate in the whole of the Ottoman empire was way off in that tiny parcel of land. Now if your argument is the Jews shouldn't have tried to settle there as per Zionism well that's valid but then you get into the whole where would a Jewish homeland be. In the early 20th century there was a decent bet.
There is an argument that the rise of the doctrine of Zionism impacted on the assimilation of Ashkenazi
jewry in Germany and Austria Hungary (not Russia though - it was never going to happen there) in the late nineteenth early/Twentieth century by advocating a separate homeland for the Jewish people. In this sense it was similar to all the other nationalisms of Europe but it did give a fig leaf to nationalists of all kinds to say that Jews weren't us, they were them and they needed their own homeland that wasn't near us.

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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:53 pm
by Ulsters Red Hand
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:13 am The media have handled the death of this poor lad disgracefully. Zero accountability as per usual. No repercussions for it. No apologies for crying wolf and getting it wrong. The kunts will sensationalise anything to get clicks.

Try and call them out for acting the kunt and then you get hit with the old "free speech" and press censorship argument.

There should be heavy fines for throwing fake/sensationalist news or factually incorrect news into the public domain. That will make them think twice about doing a bit of due diligence.
Doctors here have been misreporting deaths for ages here, putting Covid as the primary cause of death cause it’s easier. Apparently they get more money for dealing with a “covid” death too. Not sure if thats true but my first statement is

In which case, that’s on the doctor if they reported it as Covid. But ordinarily agree with you

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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:04 pm
by camroc1
So according to Paul Reid :
Difficult to predict when Covid-19 cases will peak during winter, HSE chief says
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland ... -1.4395375

This is the same Paul Reid who was predicting 2,000 cases a day and overwhelmed hospitals by the end of October, a few weeks ago when he wanted the country locked down ? Either their model works or it doesn't.

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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:13 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/clo ... 84604.html

Miriam pointing out the elephant in the room. A raft of things that are every day items deemed non essential but alcohol is essential?
Popped into Dunnes there; homeware still nice and open. Good to see they’re deemed essential goods despite the Gestapo being out and about. :)

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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:17 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
camroc1 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:04 pm So according to Paul Reid :
Difficult to predict when Covid-19 cases will peak during winter, HSE chief says
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland ... -1.4395375

This is the same Paul Reid who was predicting 2,000 cases a day and overwhelmed hospitals by the end of October, a few weeks ago when he wanted the country locked down ? Either their model works or it doesn't.
Do you not mean Nolan, I doubt Reid predicted anything.

Interestingly on this, it appears as though hospitalisations peaked at the same time or even earlier than cases. Lots of questions on hospitalisations but I do wonder how well people are modelling it. Lots of discussions on the gap from symptoms to testing to hospital but the older you are the earlier I imagine you end up in hospital.