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Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:56 am
by camroc1
EverReady wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:52 am
Its not the workers fault
:lol:

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/o ... 93198.html
The magic money tree that is the tax payer.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:58 am
by CM11
rfurlong wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:07 am So he's either telling the truth and people are ignoring the restrictions (DP), or he's deliberately undermining the government (ER) ..... which is it?

you lads can't have it both ways ffs
He overegged. Sure you even made that point when you talked about the car park you're aware of going from 10 to 30%. Not 100%.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:05 am
by CM11
EverReady wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:59 am I see so they can ramp up the numbers and fear and have half the country scratching their arses at home they have extended the contract tracing period from 2 days to 2 weeks. They are insatiable.
They should have been doing it ages ago. This isn't a bad move.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:12 am
by CM11
EverReady wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:07 am We need to be going post Covid not pissing about the edges. It kills virtually nobody.
I'm not going to get into another debate on the severity of the disease but looking back so we can cut off transmission routes quicker makes complete sense and will serve to help us open up more so you should be able to get on board for that reason anyway.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:16 am
by rfurlong
CM11 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:58 am
rfurlong wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:07 am So he's either telling the truth and people are ignoring the restrictions (DP), or he's deliberately undermining the government (ER) ..... which is it?

you lads can't have it both ways ffs
He overegged. Sure you even made that point when you talked about the car park you're aware of going from 10 to 30%. Not 100%.
he over-egged for sure

deliberately undermining the government though? Thats unadulterated shite talk from the usual suspects....

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:23 am
by CM11
rfurlong wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:16 am
CM11 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:58 am
rfurlong wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:07 am So he's either telling the truth and people are ignoring the restrictions (DP), or he's deliberately undermining the government (ER) ..... which is it?

you lads can't have it both ways ffs
He overegged. Sure you even made that point when you talked about the car park you're aware of going from 10 to 30%. Not 100%.
he over-egged for sure

deliberately undermining the government though? Thats unadulterated shite talk from the usual suspects....
In general NPHET's media appearances have made it harder for the government to govern. It's hard enough as it is these days without your advisors throwing extra fuel on the fire.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:26 am
by rfurlong
CM11 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:23 am
rfurlong wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:16 am
CM11 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:58 am
rfurlong wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:07 am So he's either telling the truth and people are ignoring the restrictions (DP), or he's deliberately undermining the government (ER) ..... which is it?

you lads can't have it both ways ffs
He overegged. Sure you even made that point when you talked about the car park you're aware of going from 10 to 30%. Not 100%.
he over-egged for sure

deliberately undermining the government though? Thats unadulterated shite talk from the usual suspects....
In general NPHET's media appearances have made it harder for the government to govern. It's hard enough as it is these days without your advisors throwing extra fuel on the fire.
they are there to advise and the government are there to govern

whats making Ireland a difficult place to govern isn't NPHET, its the media ... who are a shower of cvnts frankly and constantly looking for blood in the water so that they can go off and trigger a load of spas with their faux outrage clickbait

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:27 am
by CM11
Ah stop, Tony and co. know exactly what they're doing. They're using the media not victims of it.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:27 am
by Mullet 2
alliswell wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:35 am
Floppykid wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:54 pm Wow, Labour really going to chase the young, woke, "progressive" vote eh?

Winning stratagy.
There are two wings within Labour: one is primarily focused on social justice and the other has a stronger union link and has greater focus on workers' rights. The former was weakened by the foundation of the SocDems and the loss of a good chunk of members (mainly women tbh)
The election of Alan Kelly shows that the latter holds greater power within the party. He criticised the party at a meeting in 2018 saying that Labour was not the liberal party and should return focus to the cause of Labour. He is obviously right because the Irish electorate have never thanked any party for social justice stuff but that faction are the squeakier wheel so they get the media grease.
Tell Aohdolf to leave our books alone

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:30 am
by Blackrock Bullet
rfurlong wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:14 am One of Irelands leading fleet businesses (which tracks about 10,000 cars, vans, trucks in Ireland) published research after the first lockdown showing massive compliance with the travel rules.

Word is that they wont be publishing a follow on report covering the last 6 weeks, because it shows that the compliance levels have been a fraction of what they were previously, and that a lot of their large corporate fleet customers have been very naughty indeed.

"Holohan was 100% right in his observation around increased traffic, but he shouldn't have linked it to car parks though as its not as obvious there" ...... were the words from the CEO today
Wow, how insightful. We already have data on it but whatever.

Schools and construction are back, we all said that traffic was back.

The facts are;
That said, CSO and Transport Infrastructure Ireland show traffic volumes at end October were half what they were this time last year and public transport volumes are down 75 per cent. Google data, which measures the numbers of people in various places shows movement around public transport hubs is down 62 per cent on pre-Covid levels. There is more movement than during the first lockdown, but activity levels are still way down.

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Hizbollah tied his anecdote on car parks (which was actually the building site at the ESB) to “full office canteens” (I assume he meant RTÉ). It was laughable stuff, totally detached from the real world. He must not be a patron of many of the businesses around Dublin City Centre still doing takeaway coffee and sandwiches as they are utterly dead.

It’s a sad state of affairs that the two things he seems to look at is how scared he can make the public and cars outside of his office. This is the data driven South Korean approach we were all told about.

Meanwhile; we have mass outbreaks in hospitals, we have nursing home outbreaks after HIQA reports saying they were ill prepared...but Hizbollah doesn’t want to control what he can control or have any of his other public sector workers have any accountability.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:40 am
by Blackrock Bullet
Duff Paddy wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:16 am Edit - the point is that it’s his own fault the stupid fucker didn’t think people would be able to stick to 2 weeks of lockdown in March, now in November he can’t understand why people aren’t listening to him
It’s more to do with how pathetic their surveillance is. They lashed up a fear index the other day and have been talking about the traffic for months. Any comparisons to April time are deluded.

Increasing non compliance is a certainty, but you can’t just cry wolf on it getting upset that your Level 5 didn’t have the impact he thought. Holohan seems to be paying attention to things like worry that is tied behaviour, but then makes up stories about masses of white collar workers going back just as Level 5 kicked off. They don’t want to confront the fact that close contacts went up during Level 5, meaning the closures have little to no influence. It’s all down to behaviour, as the Government have figured out.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:48 am
by Blackrock Bullet
CM11 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:27 am Ah stop, Tony and co. know exactly what they're doing. They're using the media not victims of it.
It’s why the Government leaked out Level 3 before the weekend.

The Government weren’t waiting for the latest figures for Holohan to put out scare stories for so go ahead of him.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:52 am
by CM11
Except it's not just about the people dying ER.

I'm not a lockdown fan but this is a serious disease that the whole population can't get at once and it spreads so easily in the hospitality and health sectors. It's simplistic to just say 'death happens'. There's still been nearly 150 under 65s who've died of/with covid and the majority of ICU patients are also under 65.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:53 am
by Mullet 2
EverReady wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:41 am Stats this was always about the Wests new found aversion to mortality. It's been a constant feature of the boomers way of living and driven multi billion pound industries around the world as they chase the next elixir. They are utterly unwilling to face up to the fact they are going to die. At least the newer generations have the excuse of not being exposed to multiple life changing and death causing diseases like polio and TB. The boomers have spent their whole lives running away from the inevitable and that which they knew in their own families. Death comes and death goes and is devastating every time. Learning to cope with that is the most important thing. I for example know my parents are on their way out. I get it and am genuinely prepared. I also now connect with the fact something much more serious like a child's death, or my wife's or most serious of all my own could happen. There have been lots of crackers out of NPHET but a recent favourite had been those that many of those that died had many happy years ahead of them. That is an out and out lie. The vast vast majority neither had many years ahead of them and those that did were unlikely to be happy due to health problems because of age. Wishing that wasn't the case won't change it. We all go one way Stats and unfortunately few of us go.like my grandad on the jack's healthy to the end.
OK Brock.

Ease up on the rambling crazy shit nobody reads

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:06 am
by CM11
EverReady wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:03 am
CM11 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:52 am Except it's not just about the people dying ER.

I'm not a lockdown fan but this is a serious disease that the whole population can't get at once and it spreads so easily in the hospitality and health sectors. It's simplistic to just say 'death happens'. There's still been nearly 150 under 65s who've died of/with covid and the majority of ICU patients are also under 65.
That's life Stats. It's tough. Less tough now than in the past but it still kicks you around sometimes
It's not life to simply throw your hands up and say 'have at it lads, first 500 needing ICU live! So get licking!'.

Some measures are necessary. Not lockdown but primarily reduced social contact.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:16 am
by Mullet 2
EverReady wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:02 am I never congratulated you on the impending nuptials. Who is the PR rep in the 25?
Bimbo

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:16 am
by CM11
If only finding the sweet spot was easy. It's not so they didn't bother trying.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:16 am
by CM11
Mullet 2 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:16 am
EverReady wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:02 am I never congratulated you on the impending nuptials. Who is the PR rep in the 25?
Bimbo
:lol:

Not a fan of the in laws?

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:19 am
by camroc1
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:30 am
rfurlong wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:14 am One of Irelands leading fleet businesses (which tracks about 10,000 cars, vans, trucks in Ireland) published research after the first lockdown showing massive compliance with the travel rules.

Word is that they wont be publishing a follow on report covering the last 6 weeks, because it shows that the compliance levels have been a fraction of what they were previously, and that a lot of their large corporate fleet customers have been very naughty indeed.

"Holohan was 100% right in his observation around increased traffic, but he shouldn't have linked it to car parks though as its not as obvious there" ...... were the words from the CEO today
Wow, how insightful. We already have data on it but whatever.

Schools and construction are back, we all said that traffic was back.

The facts are;
That said, CSO and Transport Infrastructure Ireland show traffic volumes at end October were half what they were this time last year and public transport volumes are down 75 per cent. Google data, which measures the numbers of people in various places shows movement around public transport hubs is down 62 per cent on pre-Covid levels. There is more movement than during the first lockdown, but activity levels are still way down.

.
Hizbollah tied his anecdote on car parks (which was actually the building site at the ESB) to “full office canteens” (I assume he meant RTÉ). It was laughable stuff, totally detached from the real world. He must not be a patron of many of the businesses around Dublin City Centre still doing takeaway coffee and sandwiches as they are utterly dead.

It’s a sad state of affairs that the two things he seems to look at is how scared he can make the public and cars outside of his office. This is the data driven South Korean approach we were all told about.

Meanwhile; we have mass outbreaks in hospitals, we have nursing home outbreaks after HIQA reports saying they were ill prepared...but Hizbollah doesn’t want to control what he can control or have any of his other public sector workers have any accountability.
Not to mention his tirade about funerals after a large traveler funeral in Roscommon, the problem there not being the funeral, but a group in our society who don't give a fúck.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:19 am
by normilet
Just wondering, will anyone actually have an issue with people working from home once this is all over?

Lets say the vaccine is rolled out, everything is open again. You've been working from home the whole time, your output has stayed the same - no commuting, no in person meetings and yet everything has somehow magically kept going.

I'm wondering will employers start forcing people to come back or has there actually been a major shift in how companies think these days in terms of whether its vital for someone to be sitting at a computer in one place all day vs another?

I think giving people the option is great, but anecdotally I have friends who've already started getting managed messages around how this is all temporary, we will expect everyone to be in the office as per your contract etc once the situation has changed.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:29 am
by Blackrock Bullet
normilet wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:19 am Just wondering, will anyone actually have an issue with people working from home once this is all over?

Lets say the vaccine is rolled out, everything is open again. You've been working from home the whole time, your output has stayed the same - no commuting, no in person meetings and yet everything has somehow magically kept going.

I'm wondering will employers start forcing people to come back or has there actually been a major shift in how companies think these days in terms of whether its vital for someone to be sitting at a computer in one place all day vs another?

I think giving people the option is great, but anecdotally I have friends who've already started getting managed messages around how this is all temporary, we will expect everyone to be in the office as per your contract etc once the situation has changed.
There's a shift but many want people back at least some of the time. There is a lot you miss out on by not being in.

The worst offenders for not making the effort to come in when offices did take in capacity were younger employees.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:32 am
by Mullet 2
normilet wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:19 am Just wondering, will anyone actually have an issue with people working from home once this is all over?

Lets say the vaccine is rolled out, everything is open again. You've been working from home the whole time, your output has stayed the same - no commuting, no in person meetings and yet everything has somehow magically kept going.

I'm wondering will employers start forcing people to come back or has there actually been a major shift in how companies think these days in terms of whether its vital for someone to be sitting at a computer in one place all day vs another?

I think giving people the option is great, but anecdotally I have friends who've already started getting managed messages around how this is all temporary, we will expect everyone to be in the office as per your contract etc once the situation has changed.
My place has permanently moved to two days on the office

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:49 am
by iarmhiman
We've lost our desks. When we return end of March next year, we have to book our desks per day.

So the idea is we remain WFH but have the option to work in the office. Lots will work in the office, but I'll remain work from home 3/5 days a week.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:04 pm
by Leinsterman
normilet wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:19 am Just wondering, will anyone actually have an issue with people working from home once this is all over?
Similar to what the others have said, we had a meeting about this last week and the view is that there's going to be an awful lot more flexibility put in place. The company was always an office-led organisation apart from the account managers but the business has continued to function with the likes of debt teams, a % of customer care, trading, finance, marketing etc all able to work as normal from home.
We need to adapt because it's becoming an ever-increasing part of recruitment - people ask can they WFH a day or two a week, can they have flexible working hours, start at 8 etc. If we don't let them, they'll get a job elsewhere.


EverReady wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:41 am They are utterly unwilling to face up to the fact they are going to die. At least the newer generations have the excuse of not being exposed to multiple life changing and death causing diseases like polio and TB. The boomers have spent their whole lives running away from the inevitable and that which they knew in their own families.
They need to find some Jesus in their life. That's their problem

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:12 pm
by normilet
I'm just hoping people don't shoot themselves in the foot and take it too far.

We had a similar meeting in our place, member of the finance team on a call who has been WFH this whole time. Brought up that they would like the option to continue working from home, but how will the company account for the fact that this person won't be been able to avail of the subsidized canteen if they are WFH etc.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:15 pm
by Leinsterman
normilet wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:12 pm I'm just hoping people don't shoot themselves in the foot and take it too far.

We had a similar meeting in our place, member of the finance team on a call who has been WFH this whole time. Brought up that they would like the option to continue working from home, but how will the company account for the fact that this person won't be been able to avail of the subsidized canteen if they are WFH etc.
Typical accountants.
Well, if the overall occupancy is reduced, that should feed back into the service charge for the canteen.
Compass did the catering in the building we're in and their contract was terminated a good few months ago so I'd imagine when it goes out to tender again, all this will be considered with the requisite clauses.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:21 pm
by iarmhiman
What's going to happen to all that new Office Space in the docklands?

Have you seen the size of the new Salesforce HQ? What a waste if not going to be used.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:23 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
normilet wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:12 pm I'm just hoping people don't shoot themselves in the foot and take it too far.

We had a similar meeting in our place, member of the finance team on a call who has been WFH this whole time. Brought up that they would like the option to continue working from home, but how will the company account for the fact that this person won't be been able to avail of the subsidized canteen if they are WFH etc.
What a moron. They will end up paying you less in time and your career will stagnate but you might get a few Just Eat vouchers to make you feel better about not getting a €2.50 slop of canteen food.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:29 pm
by HighKingLeinster
normilet wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:12 pm I'm just hoping people don't shoot themselves in the foot and take it too far.

We had a similar meeting in our place, member of the finance team on a call who has been WFH this whole time. Brought up that they would like the option to continue working from home, but how will the company account for the fact that this person won't be been able to avail of the subsidized canteen if they are WFH etc.
Money saved on his commute can be used to offset any "loss" he has by not having access to a cheap sambo (plus making his own lunch at home would probably be cheaper anyway)

Our place is going full on with wfh. Likely be in the office a couple of days a month at most.

Re salesforce building, it was already too small for their entire irish staff to be in at one time. So will likely have a high utilisation either way when world returns to normal. Plus could see things like them slowly reduce satellite offices in europe and move jobs to dublin

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:43 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
Doubt they will. I know a competitor of theirs is looking to open more EMEA entities, you can't hire remotely otherwise and it is hard to recruit in certain languages.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:00 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
Potential effects of the Covid pandemic on Dublin's transport services will form part of a review by the National Transport Authority.

The NTA is beginning a public consultation on the strategy which is already planning transport for the next 15 years.

The new Metro system and Underground Dart are included in the Transport Strategy for the Greater Dublin Area from 2016 to 2035.

But the NTA is initiating a preliminary public consultation to get feedback on future priorities - it said this could include objectives like economic development or tackling disadvantage.

The statutory review process which is required after five years will continue next year and will lead to a revise strategy for investment in transport services up to 2042.

This will involve action on climate change as well as the effects of Covid-19 beyond the short term according to the NTA.

Other plans already in the strategy include Dart expansion to Drogheda, Maynooth and Celbridge.

Luas lines to Finglas, Lucan and Poolbeg are also planned as well as Bus Connects and improved cycling and walking facilities.
Hopefully we don't see any big projects mothballed.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:02 pm
by iarmhiman
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:00 pm
Potential effects of the Covid pandemic on Dublin's transport services will form part of a review by the National Transport Authority.

The NTA is beginning a public consultation on the strategy which is already planning transport for the next 15 years.

The new Metro system and Underground Dart are included in the Transport Strategy for the Greater Dublin Area from 2016 to 2035.

But the NTA is initiating a preliminary public consultation to get feedback on future priorities - it said this could include objectives like economic development or tackling disadvantage.

The statutory review process which is required after five years will continue next year and will lead to a revise strategy for investment in transport services up to 2042.

This will involve action on climate change as well as the effects of Covid-19 beyond the short term according to the NTA.

Other plans already in the strategy include Dart expansion to Drogheda, Maynooth and Celbridge.

Luas lines to Finglas, Lucan and Poolbeg are also planned as well as Bus Connects and improved cycling and walking facilities.
Hopefully we don't see any big projects mothballed.
Dart underground will never happen. Luas will be extented and Metro will go ahead.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:07 pm
by camroc1
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:43 pm Doubt they will. I know a competitor of theirs is looking to open more EMEA entities, you can't hire remotely otherwise and it is hard to recruit in certain languages.
Nordics are the hardest languages to get, but they still prefer to employ them in Dublin due to the huge costs involved in employing people in any of the Nordic countries. Before Covid there was no problem as many Nordic graduates saw coming to Dublin for a few years as their career start. Get employed by major US company, learn their management systems, perfect your English and have the time of your life before returning home. Hopefully that will continue once Covid is gone.

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:15 pm
by camroc1
iarmhiman wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:02 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:00 pm
Potential effects of the Covid pandemic on Dublin's transport services will form part of a review by the National Transport Authority.

The NTA is beginning a public consultation on the strategy which is already planning transport for the next 15 years.

The new Metro system and Underground Dart are included in the Transport Strategy for the Greater Dublin Area from 2016 to 2035.

But the NTA is initiating a preliminary public consultation to get feedback on future priorities - it said this could include objectives like economic development or tackling disadvantage.

The statutory review process which is required after five years will continue next year and will lead to a revise strategy for investment in transport services up to 2042.

This will involve action on climate change as well as the effects of Covid-19 beyond the short term according to the NTA.

Other plans already in the strategy include Dart expansion to Drogheda, Maynooth and Celbridge.

Luas lines to Finglas, Lucan and Poolbeg are also planned as well as Bus Connects and improved cycling and walking facilities.
Hopefully we don't see any big projects mothballed.
Dart underground will never happen. Luas will be extented and Metro will go ahead.
I disagree completely. To get the most out of the current DART upgrades to Kildare, Maynooth West/Parkwest, and Drogheda/Dundalk you really need the "DART Underground" option built and built relatively quickly. It's primary purpose is to free up one line of the current north-south line through the city centre for dedicated heavy rail (non DART) use.

https://www.irishrail.ie/Admin/getmedia ... EB-DPS.pdf

With interest rates where they are, the government should borrow specifically for this, even with a dedicated bond issue, the interest to be paid by revenue generated.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:26 pm
by CM11
While previous major Covid-19 announcements have often come late in the day following lengthy Cabinet meetings, that is unlikely to be the case this time. Politicians are well aware that the hugely popular Late Late Toy Show airs on RTÉ One at 9.35pm on Friday, so any press conference announcing details of the reopening will have to be done and dusted before that.
:lol:

It's a serious pandemic but not that serious. There are lines to be drawn.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:06 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... 4?mode=amp
The Government’s public health experts have signalled strong opposition to some elements of the plan to lift restrictions next week and reopen social and economic life, The Irish Times understands.

After a lengthy meeting of the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet) on Wednesday, the chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan briefed the Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly last night. Mr Donnelly has been in contact with senior Government figures this morning.

A letter formally outlining the Nphet advice has not yet been received by Government, but it is understood that the position taken by the public health team is considerably tougher than the approach favoured by Government.
Image

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:07 pm
by cfm93

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:08 pm
by paddyor
https://twitter.com/conormlally/status/ ... 24577?s=21

Gonna take a guess those images were all off only fans.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:23 pm
by camroc1
cfm93 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:07 pm https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4420274

The cardinal says no.
And leaks the news to the media before the official written advice reaches the government.

So will the Shinners agree with the Cardinal in cancelling Christmas ?

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:40 pm
by Nolanator
paddyor wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:08 pm https://twitter.com/conormlally/status/ ... 24577?s=21

Gonna take a guess those images were all off only fans.
What's spurred all the discussion about revenge porn and sharing explicit images without permission?
Was there an incident to kick this off, or is it generally just in the public discourse at the moment?