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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:53 pm 
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Bath shedding players like snakeskin if my Twitter feed is anything to go by.


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Think it might have been quashed now anyway.

Although Jamie Gibson has see definitely left, seemingly without a club lined up. Sign of the times I guess, that someone like him isn't walking straight into a new gig.

Blimey!! Good player, amazed he hasn't been snapped up elsewhere


He just announced it on social media.

Seems like it was a last minute decision by the club not to renew him, which is surprising as Saints generally look after the players well. I'm sure he will have offers now clubs know he's on the market. Been a cracking player during his time at Saints and wish him all the best.


His comments in the Saints press release makes it look like he's a casualty of the salary cap, and he's exploring options outside rugby


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Tigers in big row with players over pay according to their SportsNetwork Forum


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Northampton Saints is delighted to announce a further 19 first-team players have committed their futures to the Club by signing contract extensions.

Seven internationals are amongst those to pen new deals, with England’s Courtney Lawes, Lewis Ludlam, Teimana Harrison, Piers Francis and George Furbank joining Wales fly-half Dan Biggar and Scotland centre Rory Hutchinson in agreeing terms to stay at Franklin’s Gardens.

Alex Mitchell, Alex Moon and Fraser Dingwall – three Saints Academy graduates who all received their first England squad call-up during this year’s Six Nations – have all also put pen to paper on contract extensions.

Meanwhile the likes of Club co-captain Alex Waller, Mikey Haywood, David Ribbans, James Grayson, Ehren Painter, James Fish, and Lewis Bean have all also been rewarded for a string of impressive performances in Black, Green and Gold this term, plus Alex Coles and Samson Ma’asi move from Northampton’s Academy set-up into their first senior contracts.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:47 pm 
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Love to see Jamie back at Irish but given our finances its a long shot.
17:OO cut off time to find out if Ford Genge Manu have walked from Tiggs. Manu must regret not taking the R92 offer so perhaps a visit Far East as hes box office Ford Genge less likely but no doubt playing hard ball on salary adjustment


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:26 pm 
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Love to see Jamie back at Irish but given our finances its a long shot.
17:OO cut off time to find out if Ford Genge Manu have walked from Tiggs. Manu must regret not taking the R92 offer so perhaps a visit Far East as hes box office Ford Genge less likely but no doubt playing hard ball on salary adjustment

Papers saying Ford/Genge have signed.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:30 pm 
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Love to see Jamie back at Irish but given our finances its a long shot.
17:OO cut off time to find out if Ford Genge Manu have walked from Tiggs. Manu must regret not taking the R92 offer so perhaps a visit Far East as hes box office Ford Genge less likely but no doubt playing hard ball on salary adjustment


Looks like Manu missed the cut off time.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby ... igers.html


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If you have a drink in your hand at some point tomorrow, please raise it and give a nod to my uncle John who went out for a walk a couple of weeks ago and sadly didn’t make it back. His funeral is tomorrow and he was a thorough rugby man to the extent that he got on a boat in 1955 to see the world, and ended up in New Zealand where he played in the back row for Waikato before marrying one of Fitzy’s cousins and bringing her back to Henley so he could drink proper beer down at the club.

Top bloke, you’d have liked him.


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If you have a drink in your hand at some point tomorrow, please raise it and give a nod to my uncle John who went out for a walk a couple of weeks ago and sadly didn’t make it back. His funeral is tomorrow and he was a thorough rugby man to the extent that he got on a boat in 1955 to see the world, and ended up in New Zealand where he played in the back row for Waikato before marrying one of Fitzy’s cousins and bringing her back to Henley so he could drink proper beer down at the club.

Top bloke, you’d have liked him.


Sorry to hear that mate, RIP. Sounds like he lived proper life!


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If you have a drink in your hand at some point tomorrow, please raise it and give a nod to my uncle John who went out for a walk a couple of weeks ago and sadly didn’t make it back. His funeral is tomorrow and he was a thorough rugby man to the extent that he got on a boat in 1955 to see the world, and ended up in New Zealand where he played in the back row for Waikato before marrying one of Fitzy’s cousins and bringing her back to Henley so he could drink proper beer down at the club.

Top bloke, you’d have liked him.


Sorry to hear that mate, RIP. Sounds like he lived proper life!

Cheers, yep proper old school.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:25 pm 
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WTF...

Anyone know the details of this one, chaps? Presumably England men and women no longer paid on the world circuit?

    RFU scraps Sevens to cast a shadow over Team GB's chances at the Olympics

    Exclusive: Players express their frustrations at now being out of a job, a year out from Tokyo Games
    By Kate Rowan 6 August 2020 • 11:02pm

    The Rugby Football Union has scrapped its professional sevens programme. The England men’s and women’s squads were informed this week that once their contracts are up at the end of this month, they will not be offered new deals. Leading players believe this could severely damage medal chances for Team GB at the Olympics.

    Players had been told last month to “explore their options” until the World Series was due to resume early next year, and that they would be out of contract for five months. However, senior players, including sevens all-time highest try-scorer Dan Norton and 2018 Commonwealth Games bronze medallist, Richard de Carpentier, have expressed their frustration at now being out of a job....

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... -olympics/


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WTF...

Anyone know the details of this one, chaps? Presumably England men and women no longer paid on the world circuit?

    RFU scraps Sevens to cast a shadow over Team GB's chances at the Olympics

    Exclusive: Players express their frustrations at now being out of a job, a year out from Tokyo Games
    By Kate Rowan 6 August 2020 • 11:02pm

    The Rugby Football Union has scrapped its professional sevens programme. The England men’s and women’s squads were informed this week that once their contracts are up at the end of this month, they will not be offered new deals. Leading players believe this could severely damage medal chances for Team GB at the Olympics.

    Players had been told last month to “explore their options” until the World Series was due to resume early next year, and that they would be out of contract for five months. However, senior players, including sevens all-time highest try-scorer Dan Norton and 2018 Commonwealth Games bronze medallist, Richard de Carpentier, have expressed their frustration at now being out of a job....

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... -olympics/


Yup, a few women have discussed this with some joining XV clubs ad some, who can afford it remaining on the sevens program. The talk is for the future the England, Welsh and Scottish unions will all only chip in for one united GB Sevens program.


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Yup, a few women have discussed this with some joining XV clubs ad some, who can afford it remaining on the sevens program. The talk is for the future the England, Welsh and Scottish unions will all only chip in for one united GB Sevens program.

Okay, thanks.

We're all in tough budgetary times ...


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People on twitter suggesting crowd funding to keep England's team on the circuit as is ... but is 7s REALLY even that popular?

A mate who's even less of a fan of it than me says that World Rugby has to bankroll the series to keep it afloat.


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The problem is that there isn’t a 7s circuit at the moment and for the foreseeable. Definitely nothing for 2020 at least.


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Even when there is a circuit, does the 7s actually make any money for the RFU? My assumption is that it doesn't.


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https://twitter.com/philcornwall/status ... 42598?s=19

Who we thinking? Bristol or Sale? Can't see it being Exeter or Northampton


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https://twitter.com/philcornwall/status/1292571528773742598?s=19

Who we thinking? Bristol or Sale? Can't see it being Exeter or Northampton


Sorry for weighing in on your national thread gents but for the life of me I can’t understand how Sale can employ as many top-level saffers as they do and stay below the cap, and that’s before Tuilagi shows up. Surely them?


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https://twitter.com/philcornwall/status/1292571528773742598?s=19

Who we thinking? Bristol or Sale? Can't see it being Exeter or Northampton


Sorry for weighing in on your national thread gents but for the life of me I can’t understand how Sale can employ as many top-level saffers as they do and stay below the cap, and that’s before Tuilagi shows up. Surely them?


I'd heard a few rumours about Sale - paying one brother a fortune as marquee in the understanding he'd divvy out to his brothers - but this is yet another problem with the whole approach. It's all behind closed doors and allows all sorts of rumour and intrigue (says the man spreading a rumour), and the only thing the average fan can do is look at a squad and wonder if there's a few too many big earners in it.


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It could be something incredibly minor. Both Wasps and Quins had small fines in the recent past for an agent's change of locale and thus tax on their fees being higher than anticipated and going £12k over the cap respectively. It wouldn't surprise my if the vagueness of the 'article' is to cover that up until it has to be revealed, trying to grab more clicks by letting the phrase 'salary cap investigation' and the example of Sarries go to work in peoples' minds.


That said Lam was very vocal early in the year about actually being under the cap for this season because of how little they pay many of their players. You'd have to think Bristol have their bases covered if he was giving it all that in the media.

Would be hugely surprised at either Exeter or Saints seeing as they've generally been run in a fiscally responsible manner (kept the books balanced, although Saints in the last couple of seasons have lapsed on that front due to salary cap increases).

Sale the most likely, but even then, Diamond used to boast or whine, weekend result dependant, on being under the cap and says it's only recently that they've been spending up to it. Of the Saffers they've signed, only a couple of them were/are significant names.


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Not sure Lam had much choice in the words he used as Bristol were being questioned on salary cap issues


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I'm still interested to see what happens at Brizzle as they renegotiate contracts. For how long can you make it obvious some of the senior squad are getting paid a mere fraction of some of their supposed peers and keep cohesiveness in the squad?

Or it'll start to become obvious some of those on a pittance must surely be getting paid off the books


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https://www.the42.ie/billy-vunipola-bro ... 1-Aug2020/

Sorry if it's been covered already, but anyone have further insight into this?

What was the story, Billy just not pulling his weight in terms of application etc, or more significant stuff?


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https://www.the42.ie/billy-vunipola-brother-england-world-cup-5170981-Aug2020/

Sorry if it's been covered already, but anyone have further insight into this?

What was the story, Billy just not pulling his weight in terms of application etc, or more significant stuff?


I generally worked from the starting assumption that not everyone in any team would get on, and the better part of a coach's role is to smooth that over, so not surprised there were a few bust-ups in a pressured environment.

Sounds like he's just saying he's realised he wasn't taking onboard criticism, and dishing it out his own critiques a bit too liberally. It might be that Mako got a bit sick of hearing about the scrum getting bested.


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The stuff with him and Mako just sounds like a younger brother finally maturing (going solely by those quotes).

I wouldn't be surprised if he's exaggerating the extent of his shortcomings. He's always come across as very earnest, perhaps too much so, and perhaps he sat there in locm down stewing over the world cup being overly self critical. If he was being a full on bellend I suspect something would have leaked before now.


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People on twitter suggesting crowd funding to keep England's team on the circuit as is ... but is 7s REALLY even that popular?

A mate who's even less of a fan of it than me says that World Rugby has to bankroll the series to keep it afloat.


From what i see, World Rugby numbers (relevant for sponsorships, partners, corporate etc) are kept high thanks to the influx of women playing with men's numbers generally down. The entry point for women in many countries is Sevens. Also some countries only put money into Rugby because it is an Olympic sport in Sevens.


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