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Whos Going to Lead the Labor Rabble

Albo
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35%
Plibbers
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5%
Bowen
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Chalmers
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Uncle Tony
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Clive Palmer
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George Smith
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15%
 
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kiap wrote:Anyone left in Bali is gettin' outta Dodge.

Indonesia is in a risky position.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-w ... s-c-900283

Direct flights from Wuhan only cancelled in early Feb, highly likely it's been there all along.

People from WA still going to Bali as late as last week. They really need to be able to charge idiots like that for the forced 14 day quarantine
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kiap wrote:Anyone left in Bali is gettin' outta Dodge.

Indonesia is in a risky position.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-w ... s-c-900283
My pair of twenty-somethings fly out Thursday.
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Ali's Choice wrote:
kiap wrote:Anyone left in Bali is gettin' outta Dodge.

Indonesia is in a risky position.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-w ... s-c-900283
You'd have to think that if COVID-19 becomes embedded in Indonesia, that many, many people will lose their lives. The place is a shit hole and its health system is completely dysfunctional on a good day.
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Twiggy to the rescue in WA again
MINDEROO FOUNDATION ANNOUNCE UP TO $160 MILLION TO FIGHT COVID-19

Minderoo Foundation has committed up to $160 million and joined forces with Fortescue Metals Group (FMG) to procure and distribute lifesaving medical supplies and equipment, and to ramp up accurate RNA-based COVID-19 testing by at least 20 times.

The first plane of critical medical supplies from the world’s largest producer, China, is to depart from Shanghai today (Australian Western Standard Time). Minderoo Foundation has arranged the charter of the Airbus A330, operated by China Eastern, that will touch down in Perth after a 10-hour flight.

Aiming to resolve Australia’s extreme shortage of PPE (personal protective equipment), two more flights are due to arrive on Friday and Saturday this week, together bringing more than 600 cubic meters weighing over 90 tonnes of medical supplies. This will include over 1 million N95 equivalent face masks, 400,000 surgical masks, 2.3 million medical-grade gloves, 100,000 nasal swabs, 200,000 medical coveralls, 10,000 medical goggles, 5,000 touch-less thermometers and over 33 ICU grade ventilators.

Minderoo Foundation Chairman Dr Andrew Forrest AO said FMG’s deep and enduring relationships with China are unparalleled in Australia. This allowed Minderoo Foundation to supercharge procurement efforts, on behalf of and in collaboration with the Western Australian and Federal Governments.

“Unprecedented times cannot be met with a precedented response,” Dr Forrest said. “The trusted relationships, procurement expertise and logistics knowledge of the FMG and Minderoo Foundation teams, have been fundamental in rapidly securing this vital equipment.

“Our nation is facing a threat not seen in our lifetimes.

“China’s Ambassador to Australia, His Excellency Ambassador Cheng, and the Chinese people have been great mates to Australia. They are now doing all they can to help us in our hour of need. I thank the People’s Republic of China for protecting our critical medical orders in the face of intense pressure from other nations. Without this, there would be no plane loads of equipment that we celebrate today for our first responders and suffering Australians.”

Minderoo Foundation Co-chair Nicola Forrest AO said the equitable distribution of the supplies would be coordinated with WA Health across key stakeholders in primary and aged care, private and public hospital systems and other front-line services based on the areas of greatest need.

“We are working with the WA Government, the Australian Medical Association (AMA), WA’s private hospitals, National COVID-19 Coordination Commission, National Incident Room and Aspen Medical to determine how we can best meet projected surges in demand for critical supplies,” she said.

Dr Forrest said: “Our task has been to take the uncertainty and panic about the lack of sufficient medical equipment and COVID-19 testing out of the system. In collaboration with the Western Australian and Federal Governments, and the National COVID Coordination Commission, we will not stop until we achieve that. And we will never ever give up until we can look back on, and not be living through, this COVID-19 threat.”

WA Health Minister Roger Cook thanked Minderoo Foundation and FMG for their “extraordinary support” in finding these “incredibly difficult to obtain supplies” for WA’s broader health system, other stakeholders and frontline staff. Mr Cook confirmed that “rigorous quality control measures have been established to ensure all supplies meet required Australian safety and clinical standards.”

“To allow this generous commitment to continue to scale, the WA Government will reimburse Minderoo Foundation at cost for the supplies purchased so that Minderoo Foundation can further leverage its incredible commitment of up to $160 million over the coming weeks and continue to source these critical medical supplies for Australia,” Mr Cook said.

Minderoo Foundation’s urgent response to the pandemic also involves rapidly scaling WA’s capacity to undertake broad scale testing of the community. A detailed plan to scale the number of accurate RNA-based diagnostic COVID-19 tests being undertaken in Western Australia from 400 per day up to 10,000 has been prepared and will be implemented shortly. Minderoo Foundation is working with BGI Genomics, Clinipath Pathology, the Harry Perkins Institute, the AMA and WA Health in this effort.

Dr Forrest said: “Those countries that have radically scaled testing have contained the virus and avoided untold human and economic hardship. Those who didn’t, have suffered badly. To fight this virus we too must quickly identify infected individuals in the community, trace their contacts and ensure isolation and containment. I am very grateful to our partners for their immense effort in making this happen with us.”

The Minderoo Foundation COVID-19 Response is being led by senior executive Dr Steve Burnell, supported by the entire Minderoo Foundation and FMG teams, in particular the dedicated FMG team in China.

In a message to all Australians, Dr Forrest stressed the importance of following the latest guidance on social distancing and staying at home.

“Our decisions, I trust like yours, are being driven by love, family, community, care and compassion, and never fear.” he said. “We all must protect our vulnerable just as we all protect our families. We are in this together, and it is together that we will defeat this virus.”
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Sundy wrote:Twiggy to the rescue in WA again
Equipment to WA first, then surplus equipment will be sent to other Australian states who need it.

Better than wasting time on Rugby Australia, fer sure.
  • ... 1+ million N95 equivalent face masks, 400,000 surgical masks, 2.3 million medical-grade gloves, 100,000 nasal swabs, 200,000 medical coveralls, 10,000 medical goggles, 5000 touch-less thermometers and over 33 intensive care unit-grade ventilators. :thumbup:
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It's good to see our Chinese made mining billionaires using their business links to assist the community. I'm a bit sceptical of Twiggy's PR machine but it certainly looks like everybody means well and dare I say it Australia will need good relationships with a vibrant Chinese economy to pay the bills for at least the next 5-10 years.
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Let's hope that China-sourced gear is not shoddy - I raised that question a couple days ago / on the previous page. Latest:
  • Australia seizes faulty coronavirus protective equipment imported from China

    Exclusive by defence correspondent Andrew Greene
    Updated 32 minutes ago


    Authorities have begun seizing Chinese-made faulty face masks and other protective clothing that is being exported to Australia to help halt the spread of coronavirus.

    Key points:
    • An official has dubbed some of the intercepted Chinese personal protective equipment "dodgy"
    • Spain, Turkey and the Netherlands have rejected Chinese-made protective equipment
    • Australia has banned face masks, gloves, gowns, goggles, alcohol wipes and hand sanitiser exports
    The ABC has learnt that in recent weeks, Australian Border Force (ABF) officers have intercepted several deliveries of personal protective equipment (PPE) that have been found to be counterfeit or otherwise faulty.

    One law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, estimated the ABF had already seized 800,000 masks with a combined value of more than $1.2 million on the Australian market.

    "We started seeing this stuff arriving roughly three weeks ago when news of the pandemic was really taking off," the official told the ABC. "The dodgy material is coming via air cargo because there is a backlog of sea freight at Australian ports."

    The official stressed that not all Chinese products were considered faulty, and other imports of PPE from China were still passing Australian regulations.
    yada yada yada: show
    The ABC has approached the Department of Home Affairs and the Minister for Home Affairs for comment. The Department refused to comment and the ABC is yet to receive a response from the Minister's office.

    The Federal Government on Wednesday officially banned the exporting of protective equipment such as masks, gloves and gowns from Australia during the coronavirus outbreak. It foreshadowed the plan last week, and Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton and Health Minister Greg Hunt have now signed off on the new regulations.

    New rules are also stopping people buying up supplies of protective equipment to then resell locally at an inflated price. It has also sought to boost supply by opening up the nation's emergency medical stockpile and increasing domestic production.

    In Victoria, Army personnel have been deployed to manufacturer Med-Con to help double the factory's production of face masks.
    Several European governments have rejected Chinese-made equipment designed to combat the coronavirus outbreak in recent days. Thousands of testing kits and medical masks are below standard or defective, according to authorities in Spain, Turkey and the Netherlands.

    The Dutch health ministry announced it had recalled 600,000 face masks on March 28. The equipment arrived from a Chinese manufacturer on March 21 and had already been distributed to frontline medical teams. Dutch officials said the masks did not fit and their filters did not work as intended, even though they had a quality certificate.

    Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying has rejected suggestions the country's exports were faulty.

    "A large number of Chinese manufacturers are working around the clock to help other countries save lives," she said on Tuesday.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-01/ ... d/12085908
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Interesting situation on Norfolk island. 12 people have tested positive and are meant to be self isolating. They aren't so the entire island will be lockdown and the AFP will be sending a team over to monitor. Norfolk Islanders have asked to know who is positive and not isolating so they could avoid and make sure they stayed at home but have been told that due to privacy they wont be told but everyone must adhere to the lockdown. How to piss off an entire community.
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kiap wrote:Let's hope that China-sourced gear is not shoddy - I raised that question a couple days ago / on the previous page. Latest:
  • Australia seizes faulty coronavirus protective equipment imported from China

    Exclusive by defence correspondent Andrew Greene
    Updated 32 minutes ago


    Authorities have begun seizing Chinese-made faulty face masks and other protective clothing that is being exported to Australia to help halt the spread of coronavirus.

    Key points:
    • An official has dubbed some of the intercepted Chinese personal protective equipment "dodgy"
    • Spain, Turkey and the Netherlands have rejected Chinese-made protective equipment
    • Australia has banned face masks, gloves, gowns, goggles, alcohol wipes and hand sanitiser exports
    The ABC has learnt that in recent weeks, Australian Border Force (ABF) officers have intercepted several deliveries of personal protective equipment (PPE) that have been found to be counterfeit or otherwise faulty.

    One law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, estimated the ABF had already seized 800,000 masks with a combined value of more than $1.2 million on the Australian market.

    "We started seeing this stuff arriving roughly three weeks ago when news of the pandemic was really taking off," the official told the ABC. "The dodgy material is coming via air cargo because there is a backlog of sea freight at Australian ports."

    The official stressed that not all Chinese products were considered faulty, and other imports of PPE from China were still passing Australian regulations.
    yada yada yada: show
    The ABC has approached the Department of Home Affairs and the Minister for Home Affairs for comment. The Department refused to comment and the ABC is yet to receive a response from the Minister's office.

    The Federal Government on Wednesday officially banned the exporting of protective equipment such as masks, gloves and gowns from Australia during the coronavirus outbreak. It foreshadowed the plan last week, and Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton and Health Minister Greg Hunt have now signed off on the new regulations.

    New rules are also stopping people buying up supplies of protective equipment to then resell locally at an inflated price. It has also sought to boost supply by opening up the nation's emergency medical stockpile and increasing domestic production.

    In Victoria, Army personnel have been deployed to manufacturer Med-Con to help double the factory's production of face masks.
    Several European governments have rejected Chinese-made equipment designed to combat the coronavirus outbreak in recent days. Thousands of testing kits and medical masks are below standard or defective, according to authorities in Spain, Turkey and the Netherlands.

    The Dutch health ministry announced it had recalled 600,000 face masks on March 28. The equipment arrived from a Chinese manufacturer on March 21 and had already been distributed to frontline medical teams. Dutch officials said the masks did not fit and their filters did not work as intended, even though they had a quality certificate.

    Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying has rejected suggestions the country's exports were faulty.

    "A large number of Chinese manufacturers are working around the clock to help other countries save lives," she said on Tuesday.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-01/ ... d/12085908
Definitely an issue and all the equipment is being checked by WA health officials. Any below standard is being returned to china. I suspect considering the publicity around this, sub par equipment won't be supplied.
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Okay, can someone please explain to me how every single other professional and amateur sport in Australia is closed down except Horse Racing? Seriously, wtf?!
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Midgets aren't people under Australian law so don't need to self isolate I guess.
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Ali's Choice wrote:Okay, can someone please explain to me how every single other professional and amateur sport in Australia is closed down except Horse Racing? Seriously, wtf?!
It's a complete joke but shows the power the bookies have over the government
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Crazy Ed wrote:Midgets aren't people under Australian law so don't need to self isolate I guess.
Dwarfs and gingers.
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Ali's Choice wrote:People's thoughts on the government's $130 billion wage subsidy announcement today?
1. This was announced too late. Labor has been pushing for it for weeks and the UK and NZ + other countries jumped onto it almost immediately. By the time the announcement was made, the company I work for has had 4 weeks of massively falling sales. We had already made close to 100 workers redundant. Now there are a 100 additional people queuing at 1.5 metres apart outside Centrelink.

2. The process to bring back into the company, the workers that were made redundant is too hard. We've paid notice, redundancy and leave entitlements, as well as PAYG to the ATO. Unwinding this is a farking nightmare and the easiest option is to leave them unemployed.

3. The $1,500 is for a fortnight's wage and is pre-tax. It is a flat rate regardless of how much you currently earn. Therefore you could have someone doing 20 hours a week earning $400 a fortnight. They will get $1,500. At the same time, you could have someone on $65,000 a year (the average wage?) and they will only get $1,500. I suspect that the Govt did it this way to make it easier to administer, but we have a super duper Single Touch Payroll system that reports almost live data to the ATO so they know how much people actually earn. Therefore they could easily pay as a % or earnings capped at $x.

4. The $1,500 per fortnight is $39,000 per year pre-tax. It also doesn't attract super. I don't know about you guys but I cannot feed the mouths under my roof for this amount.

5. The cash for this is not expected to flow until May. This means that businesses have to find the cashflow for a month at the minimum to keep this going. I'm guessing that due to the demand, cash won't be seen until the end of May as their systems will be overwhelmed.

6. Casuals aren't covered unless they've worked 12 months. Most visa types aren't covered. Thankfully they cover the Kiwis working with me.

7. There isn't a lot of information out there about how to apply this payment. There's confusion about whether it simply represents a direct payment or whether it is a wage subsidy. Based on whatever guidance is out there, it seems to be a mixture of the above depending on whether you are stood down or keep on working. If treated as a subsidy, a business can make its employees take leave and keep the subsidy. While it's cashflow neutral, this benefits the company from a balance sheet perspective.
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Ali's Choice wrote:Okay, can someone please explain to me how every single other professional and amateur sport in Australia is closed down except Horse Racing? Seriously, wtf?!
Ask your beloved league boss(NSW), he runs it.
Absolute piece of shit character.
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UncleFB wrote:Australia - still not in lockdown but saying all the lockdown stuff.

Why are they dilly dallying? They’ve basically given “strong advice” to do what NZ has one and left it up to an honour system.
This. The longer they leave this, the longer the pain is from a health, social and economic perspective. And Morrison is talking about 6 months of this. Let's just lock down and get it over with.
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NSW Catholic Schools have now decided to have 4 pupil free days next week, which effectively means that school is over for the term, and they get around the veiled threats made by Morrison to withhold future funding.

Not sure what NSW Public Schools are doing but I suspect something similar as the Catholic Schools ran this by NSW Education first.
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So now most countries are saying you should be wearing face masks. Aussie govt are in space trying to find north.

Are there any redeeming qualities about the Chinese? I am fast becoming a racist. Americans are no better, have covered themselves in shit and called it 'Eau de Trump'
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If this is accurate then we are f@#ked. No non essential business will survive under current circumstances until Oct/Nov
Australians can expect to be cooped up in isolation until summer, based on yet-to-be-released modelling that reveals the number of hospitalised coronavirus cases won’t peak until the end of October.

The modelling, presented to intensive care consultants and seen by news.com.au, shows strict social distancing measures will halve the number of infections in NSW compared to what would have happened without the shutdown.

If not for the restrictions, the rate of transmission would have been much more aggressive and hospitalisations would have peaked in July.

The modelling shows that, with less interference from the government, there would have been a peak of 450 hospitalised cases for every 100,000 people in NSW, with the virus spreading in the community at a rate of 2.4.

With social distancing, the data shows the peak will now be late October, with 180 hospitalised cases per 100,000 people at a reproduction rate of 1.6.

The modelling shows social distancing measures are effective at flattening the curve and many fewer people will get infected, but also suggests Australia will be fighting the virus for a longer period than many expected.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy ... 5b6a51ba05
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kiwinoz wrote:If this is accurate then we are f@#ked. No non essential business will survive under current circumstances until Oct/Nov
I'm starting to think we are f**ked regardless, and all the billions of economic stimulus will do is to simply prolong the inevitable. State and Federal Governments will soon stop paying their employees. Utilities and services will stop and by June/July it will be law of the jungle and survival of the fittest. No electricity, no water, no police. Civil society as we know it will cease. I need to buy some guns and a shitload of amo.
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Ali's Choice wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:If this is accurate then we are f@#ked. No non essential business will survive under current circumstances until Oct/Nov
I'm starting to think we are f**ked regardless, and all the billions of economic stimulus will do is to simply prolong the inevitable. State and Federal Governments will soon stop paying their employees. Utilities and services will stop and by June/July it will be law of the jungle and survival of the fittest. No electricity, no water, no police. Civil society as we know it will cease. I need to buy some guns and a shitload of amo.
You could always move back to New Zealand.
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Muttonbirds wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:If this is accurate then we are f@#ked. No non essential business will survive under current circumstances until Oct/Nov
I'm starting to think we are f**ked regardless, and all the billions of economic stimulus will do is to simply prolong the inevitable. State and Federal Governments will soon stop paying their employees. Utilities and services will stop and by June/July it will be law of the jungle and survival of the fittest. No electricity, no water, no police. Civil society as we know it will cease. I need to buy some guns and a shitload of amo.
You could always move back to New Zealand.
I'm not convinced that NZ would be immune from the global economic meltdown that would result from a prolonged COVID-19 lockdown. If civil society in Australia was to collapse, I think the same thing would happen in NZ.
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Ali's Choice wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:If this is accurate then we are f@#ked. No non essential business will survive under current circumstances until Oct/Nov
I'm starting to think we are f**ked regardless, and all the billions of economic stimulus will do is to simply prolong the inevitable. State and Federal Governments will soon stop paying their employees. Utilities and services will stop and by June/July it will be law of the jungle and survival of the fittest. No electricity, no water, no police. Civil society as we know it will cease. I need to buy some guns and a shitload of amo.
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kiap wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:If this is accurate then we are f@#ked. No non essential business will survive under current circumstances until Oct/Nov
I'm starting to think we are f**ked regardless, and all the billions of economic stimulus will do is to simply prolong the inevitable. State and Federal Governments will soon stop paying their employees. Utilities and services will stop and by June/July it will be law of the jungle and survival of the fittest. No electricity, no water, no police. Civil society as we know it will cease. I need to buy some guns and a shitload of amo.
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Ali's Choice wrote:
Muttonbirds wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:If this is accurate then we are f@#ked. No non essential business will survive under current circumstances until Oct/Nov
I'm starting to think we are f**ked regardless, and all the billions of economic stimulus will do is to simply prolong the inevitable. State and Federal Governments will soon stop paying their employees. Utilities and services will stop and by June/July it will be law of the jungle and survival of the fittest. No electricity, no water, no police. Civil society as we know it will cease. I need to buy some guns and a shitload of amo.
You could always move back to New Zealand.
I'm not convinced that NZ would be immune from the global economic meltdown that would result from a prolonged COVID-19 lockdown. If civil society in Australia was to collapse, I think the same thing would happen in NZ.
Left-leaning Govt though. Teacher friendly, strong Union, etc. Could be good for you.
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Ali's Choice wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:If this is accurate then we are f@#ked. No non essential business will survive under current circumstances until Oct/Nov
I'm starting to think we are f**ked regardless, and all the billions of economic stimulus will do is to simply prolong the inevitable. State and Federal Governments will soon stop paying their employees. Utilities and services will stop and by June/July it will be law of the jungle and survival of the fittest. No electricity, no water, no police. Civil society as we know it will cease. I need to buy some guns and a shitload of amo.
Money sent out will be paying absolute necessities and the rest will be held for emergencies and what may come in an uncertain future. It wont kickstart an economy in shutdown.

Its hard to know what will happen, but I do know you can't get ammo etc now unless you are a farmer etc. Where you are should be ok. Unless they have read your posts ;)
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We are all South Africans now, bru.
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kiwinoz wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:If this is accurate then we are f@#ked. No non essential business will survive under current circumstances until Oct/Nov
I'm starting to think we are f**ked regardless, and all the billions of economic stimulus will do is to simply prolong the inevitable. State and Federal Governments will soon stop paying their employees. Utilities and services will stop and by June/July it will be law of the jungle and survival of the fittest. No electricity, no water, no police. Civil society as we know it will cease. I need to buy some guns and a shitload of amo.
Money sent out will be paying absolute necessities and the rest will be held for emergencies and what may come in an uncertain future. It wont kickstart an economy in shutdown.

Its hard to know what will happen, but I do know you can't get ammo etc now unless you are a farmer etc. Where you are should be ok. Unless they have read your posts ;)
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kiap wrote:We are all South Africans now, bru.
The way I see it, it will take 2-3 months until the State govts can no longer afford to pay their workers. The absence of police will mean a breakdown of society and complete absence of law and order. Chaos will reign supreme and for a few weeks/months society will resemble a full blown zombie apocalypse. However, eventually the Outlaw Motorcycle gangs will step up and fill the vacuum. After all, chaos is bad for business. By the end of 2020 in QLD each town/suburb across the state will be run by the chapter of their local OMC gang and our state currency will be meth.
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Crossbows can be made cheaply with materials available in most scrapyards my recommendations would be a combination of leaf springs rocker arms and handbrake cables. good luck.
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Ali's Choice wrote:our state currency will be meth.
Already is on the Goldy :lol:

Something quite interesting about the JobKeeper assistance scheme. Employers (and employees) who access it need to go through the Tax Office and show their business impacted. Hmmm, un-filed tax returns, anyone? And "book losses" resulting in tiny incomes... ? Over three months and beyond this will hoover up a good chunk of the old cash economy and the ATO (and thence to the states) will be taxing more of it.
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Crazy Ed wrote:Crossbows can be made cheaply with materials available in most scrapyards my recommendations would be a combination of leaf springs rocker arms and handbrake cables. good luck.
Nobody is laughing about my obsession with Martial Arts now :lol:

In all seriousness, even Scotty is starting to realise - his comments about their being no Left or Right in this is telling.

He may have realised this is his chance to be remembered for something other than Engadine Maccas.

The world will change, and hopefully for the better.

Australia is a pretty good place to be for the change
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Ali's Choice wrote:
kiap wrote:We are all South Africans now, bru.
The way I see it, it will take 2-3 months until the State govts can no longer afford to pay their workers. The absence of police will mean a breakdown of society and complete absence of law and order. Chaos will reign supreme and for a few weeks/months society will resemble a full blown zombie apocalypse. However, eventually the Outlaw Motorcycle gangs will step up and fill the vacuum. After all, chaos is bad for business. By the end of 2020 in QLD each town/suburb across the state will be run by the chapter of their local OMC gang and our state currency will be meth.
Are you being serious that you think you might not get paid? If essentiall services are at risk ststes will get ScoMo to print another $1b. If Mad Max does estaet to look like a possibility then we will be in curfews and martial law before then. I would suggest you make friends with members of the local gun club. Its a great sport. You cant shoot now at ranges but in your scenario there might be other opprtunities :twisted:
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kiwinoz wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
kiap wrote:We are all South Africans now, bru.
The way I see it, it will take 2-3 months until the State govts can no longer afford to pay their workers. The absence of police will mean a breakdown of society and complete absence of law and order. Chaos will reign supreme and for a few weeks/months society will resemble a full blown zombie apocalypse. However, eventually the Outlaw Motorcycle gangs will step up and fill the vacuum. After all, chaos is bad for business. By the end of 2020 in QLD each town/suburb across the state will be run by the chapter of their local OMC gang and our state currency will be meth.
Are you being serious that you think you might not get paid? If essentiall services are at risk ststes will get ScoMo to print another $1b. If Mad Max does estaet to look like a possibility then we will be in curfews and martial law before then. I would suggest you make friends with members of the local gun club. Its a great sport. You cant shoot now at ranges but in your scenario there might be other opprtunities :twisted:
Not fully serious, I was just in a dramatic mood when I wrote those earlier comments. I mean a Mad Max scenario could happen if this goes on for months and then years, sure But if essential govt workers go then pretty much everyone else will have lost their jobs already, and the world will be a very scary place. I can't see any state governments being allowed to go bankrupt.
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Ali's Choice wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
kiap wrote:We are all South Africans now, bru.
The way I see it, it will take 2-3 months until the State govts can no longer afford to pay their workers. The absence of police will mean a breakdown of society and complete absence of law and order. Chaos will reign supreme and for a few weeks/months society will resemble a full blown zombie apocalypse. However, eventually the Outlaw Motorcycle gangs will step up and fill the vacuum. After all, chaos is bad for business. By the end of 2020 in QLD each town/suburb across the state will be run by the chapter of their local OMC gang and our state currency will be meth.
Are you being serious that you think you might not get paid? If essentiall services are at risk ststes will get ScoMo to print another $1b. If Mad Max does estaet to look like a possibility then we will be in curfews and martial law before then. I would suggest you make friends with members of the local gun club. Its a great sport. You cant shoot now at ranges but in your scenario there might be other opprtunities :twisted:
Not fully serious, I was just in a dramatic mood when I wrote those earlier comments. I mean a Mad Max scenario could happen if this goes on for months and then years, sure But if essential govt workers go then pretty much everyone else will have lost their jobs already, and the world will be a very scary place. I can't see any state governments being allowed to go bankrupt.
I wonder if I can learn how to sail from the internet? If the world goes to shit and I have to fight in a civil war or mad max style gang fights, I'd rather do that back home than in Oz.
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UncleFB wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
kiap wrote:We are all South Africans now, bru.
The way I see it, it will take 2-3 months until the State govts can no longer afford to pay their workers. The absence of police will mean a breakdown of society and complete absence of law and order. Chaos will reign supreme and for a few weeks/months society will resemble a full blown zombie apocalypse. However, eventually the Outlaw Motorcycle gangs will step up and fill the vacuum. After all, chaos is bad for business. By the end of 2020 in QLD each town/suburb across the state will be run by the chapter of their local OMC gang and our state currency will be meth.
Are you being serious that you think you might not get paid? If essentiall services are at risk ststes will get ScoMo to print another $1b. If Mad Max does estaet to look like a possibility then we will be in curfews and martial law before then. I would suggest you make friends with members of the local gun club. Its a great sport. You cant shoot now at ranges but in your scenario there might be other opprtunities :twisted:
Not fully serious, I was just in a dramatic mood when I wrote those earlier comments. I mean a Mad Max scenario could happen if this goes on for months and then years, sure But if essential govt workers go then pretty much everyone else will have lost their jobs already, and the world will be a very scary place. I can't see any state governments being allowed to go bankrupt.
I wonder if I can learn how to sail from the internet? If the world goes to shit and I have to fight in a civil war or mad max style gang fights, I'd rather do that back home than in Oz.
Scope out your local marina. You'll find that 90% of the boats are untouched month by month.
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UncleFB wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
kiap wrote:We are all South Africans now, bru.
The way I see it, it will take 2-3 months until the State govts can no longer afford to pay their workers. The absence of police will mean a breakdown of society and complete absence of law and order. Chaos will reign supreme and for a few weeks/months society will resemble a full blown zombie apocalypse. However, eventually the Outlaw Motorcycle gangs will step up and fill the vacuum. After all, chaos is bad for business. By the end of 2020 in QLD each town/suburb across the state will be run by the chapter of their local OMC gang and our state currency will be meth.
Are you being serious that you think you might not get paid? If essentiall services are at risk ststes will get ScoMo to print another $1b. If Mad Max does estaet to look like a possibility then we will be in curfews and martial law before then. I would suggest you make friends with members of the local gun club. Its a great sport. You cant shoot now at ranges but in your scenario there might be other opprtunities :twisted:
Not fully serious, I was just in a dramatic mood when I wrote those earlier comments. I mean a Mad Max scenario could happen if this goes on for months and then years, sure But if essential govt workers go then pretty much everyone else will have lost their jobs already, and the world will be a very scary place. I can't see any state governments being allowed to go bankrupt.
I wonder if I can learn how to sail from the internet? If the world goes to shit and I have to fight in a civil war or mad max style gang fights, I'd rather do that back home than in Oz.
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Australian the land of peados. Well done you fvck nuts! :thumbdown:

The right wing are a bunch of peados!

Izzy and ScoMo are ecstatic.

Burn the church!!!
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The Optimist wrote:Australian the land of peados. Well done you fvck nuts! :thumbdown:

The right wing are a bunch of peados!

Izzy and ScoMo are ecstatic.

Burn the church!!!
Umm, I think this is the thread you're looking for

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