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Whos Going to Lead the Labor Rabble
Albo 38%  38%  [ 5 ]
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Bowen 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Chalmers 23%  23%  [ 3 ]
Uncle Tony 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:56 am 
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So what do we think of this stoush with China?

I am concerned that ScoMo went too hard in the wrong area. We need a global inquest after this. Finding out what China knew and when is vital. We also need to investigate how the rest of the world reacted and what can be done better next time.

Having said that, China wants our resources and we want to sell it to them. This won’t last. It’s a bit of Sabre rattling.

We do have a point here though. Having the most populated country in the world, and the next great superpower, as a dictatorship, is concerning. I hope there is significant international effort to change that.


Funny timing Farva has I was just about to make a post about the looming Trade War with China, and you beat to the punch. You also watching the Sunday Project?

Yeah, its not ideal for farmers, especially after the drought, bushfires and then COVID-19. Morrison's intervention was unnecessary, and lacked tact and diplomacy. It wouldn't have happened if Julie Bishop as Foreign Minister. Morrison over-estimated his global strength, and has been quickly slapped down by China. The fact that there was radio silence from other western nations in support of Morrison suggests that his timing was as poor as his diplomacy.


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Farva wrote:
So what do we think of this stoush with China?

I am concerned that ScoMo went too hard in the wrong area. We need a global inquest after this. Finding out what China knew and when is vital. We also need to investigate how the rest of the world reacted and what can be done better next time.

Having said that, China wants our resources and we want to sell it to them. This won’t last. It’s a bit of Sabre rattling.

We do have a point here though. Having the most populated country in the world, and the next great superpower, as a dictatorship, is concerning. I hope there is significant international effort to change that.


Funny timing Farva has I was just about to make a post about the looming Trade War with China, and you beat to the punch. You also watching the Sunday Project?

Yeah, its not ideal for farmers, especially after the drought, bushfires and then COVID-19. Morrison's intervention was unnecessary, and lacked tact and diplomacy. It wouldn't have happened if Julie Bishop as Foreign Minister. Morrison over-estimated his global strength, and has been quickly slapped down by China. The fact that there was radio silence from other western nations in support of Morrison suggests that his timing was as poor as his diplomacy.

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I am!

Regardless of the diplomacy it’s interesting where we now sit.
I tend to think it’s a slap down and will be resolved soon.
It raises some interesting questions now as China’s actions have clearly taken what could have been a regional pandemic and sent it global. At the very least the world might have been more prepared. A dictatorship in China is now an issue.
But so is the move to populist governments in places like Brazil, US, Russia and the UK. These are just as risky as actions are not in the countries greater good but rather to appease the masses.

Edit: should add India to that list too.


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Farva wrote:
So what do we think of this stoush with China?

I am concerned that ScoMo went too hard in the wrong area....

Scomo should've talked to some others in this now 62-country coalition BEFORE trying to tweak China's nose.

Australia was dumb on several fronts: going solo, timing foreign affairs annoucements for a domestic audience, and trying to brown nose Trump's cadre. The irony there is that China will now substitute just under a billion's worth of Australian barley for the same crop sourced from United States... amongst other measures.

The way to pressure China is with a numbers advantage, not by attempting a solo Mike Catt speedbump under Jonah Lomu's pounding feet.


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Agreed. Don't make the resolution, but back it. More powerful countries hiding in the back thinking 'Aussie mugs' but cheering 'Well said Australia!!!'. Massive hit at any time, but during. global crisis, timing is piss poor.

On another note China is really being a fvckwit! South China Sea. Uyghurs. Trying to deny virus etc. Saw the same thing with Russia, Georgia. Ukraine. Scripals. Litvinenko.

If you don't push back, these vile nations, (USA must now be included), get bolder and bolder.

Watching NSW Premier on TV there is no wonder why Trump got voted in, politicians are all bland and don't bother answering questions. Blah.. blah. blah. Nothing. Dross. Pick a side and get off the bog arsemouth! FFS!

We want characters who stand for something. Should be mandatory to:
- have slept with a whore
- smoked weed
- must have begun to learn a second language but never mastered it
- don't know who a Kardashian is
- played rugby... forwards
- 1 drunk driving charge
- woke in a stranger bed with some form of vegetable in your crack
- rock a dads bod
- used a derogatory slur while at a shopping center
- shit your pants in a strip club
- eaten scrambled eggs with strawberry jam.

Flawed but interesting.


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Farva wrote:
So what do we think of this stoush with China?

I am concerned that ScoMo went too hard in the wrong area. We need a global inquest after this. Finding out what China knew and when is vital. We also need to investigate how the rest of the world reacted and what can be done better next time.

Having said that, China wants our resources and we want to sell it to them. This won’t last. It’s a bit of Sabre rattling.

We do have a point here though. Having the most populated country in the world, and the next great superpower, as a dictatorship, is concerning. I hope there is significant international effort to change that.


We're shooting ourselves in the foot. It's laudable we should lead a push to investigate Wuhan. We should do so in private. We did it in public because of domestic political considerations. China are now punishing us for doing it in public, as they were always going to, and they're punishing us in public, as they were always going to. We have to suck it up because we just don't have the resources or will to take them on in a trade war, which will consist solely us us getting serially fcuked. One big ad in the papers by the mining lobby and our government will be ejaculating all over the Chinese ambassador's trouser legs.


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Farva wrote:
So what do we think of this stoush with China?

I am concerned that ScoMo went too hard in the wrong area. We need a global inquest after this. Finding out what China knew and when is vital. We also need to investigate how the rest of the world reacted and what can be done better next time.

Having said that, China wants our resources and we want to sell it to them. This won’t last. It’s a bit of Sabre rattling.

We do have a point here though. Having the most populated country in the world, and the next great superpower, as a dictatorship, is concerning. I hope there is significant international effort to change that.


We're shooting ourselves in the foot. It's laudable we should lead a push to investigate Wuhan. We should do so in private. We did it in public because of domestic political considerations. China are now punishing us for doing it in public, as they were always going to, and they're punishing us in public, as they were always going to. We have to suck it up because we just don't have the resources or will to take them on in a trade war, which will consist solely us us getting serially fcuked. One big ad in the papers by the mining lobby and our government will be ejaculating all over the Chinese ambassador's trouser legs.

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Well, if Scotty is going to be all Big Man in Parliament, it would be wise to create a back-up plan to exporting food and minerals to China first ...


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Well, if Scotty is going to be all Big Man in Parliament, it would be wise to create a back-up plan to exporting food and minerals to China first ...



I think he has shown a few times that he is not into strategic thinking. It is all tactical with Scummo.


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6.Jones wrote:
Farva wrote:
So what do we think of this stoush with China?

I am concerned that ScoMo went too hard in the wrong area. We need a global inquest after this. Finding out what China knew and when is vital. We also need to investigate how the rest of the world reacted and what can be done better next time.

Having said that, China wants our resources and we want to sell it to them. This won’t last. It’s a bit of Sabre rattling.

We do have a point here though. Having the most populated country in the world, and the next great superpower, as a dictatorship, is concerning. I hope there is significant international effort to change that.


We're shooting ourselves in the foot. It's laudable we should lead a push to investigate Wuhan. We should do so in private. We did it in public because of domestic political considerations. China are now punishing us for doing it in public, as they were always going to, and they're punishing us in public, as they were always going to. We have to suck it up because we just don't have the resources or will to take them on in a trade war, which will consist solely us us getting serially fcuked. One big ad in the papers by the mining lobby and our government will be ejaculating all over the Chinese ambassador's trouser legs.


Yep, we are just too small and weak, and are only hurting ourselves.

Should have left the US and Europe to lead something like this.


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60 odd countries are apparently on record as supporting an enquiry. Including Russia.


Which is not to say that PRC will forgive us, or forget our perfidy (as they see it).


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60 odd countries are apparently on record as supporting an enquiry. Including Russia.


Which is not to say that PRC will forgive us, or forget our perfidy (as they see it).


What's really worrying is that the Morrison's public demands for an inquiry came the day after a phone meeting between him and Donald Trump. It's one thing fawning over the President of the USA, and supporting him no matter what. It's something else being his puppet, and doing his dirty work, to the detriment of everyday Australians.


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NSW haven't got a plan in place yet to handle the hordes of people due to start commuting back to work....

Surely, you'd plan this before making and announcement :uhoh: nt?


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NSW haven't got a plan in place yet to handle the hordes of people due to start commuting back to work....

Surely, you'd plan this before making and announcement :uhoh: nt?

Hoverbuses with self-disinfecting one person booths. Due to be delivered late tonight, I believe.


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60 odd countries are apparently on record as supporting an enquiry. Including Russia.


Which is not to say that PRC will forgive us, or forget our perfidy (as they see it).


It'd be a poor business strategy to forgive and forget.


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NSW haven't got a plan in place yet to handle the hordes of people due to start commuting back to work....

Surely, you'd plan this before making and announcement :uhoh: nt?

Hoverbuses with self-disinfecting one person booths. Due to be delivered late tonight, I believe.


They actually announced a full takeover of the Public bus system (remaining) using Covid19 as a cover...


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NSW haven't got a plan in place yet to handle the hordes of people due to start commuting back to work....

Surely, you'd plan this before making and announcement :uhoh: nt?

Hoverbuses with self-disinfecting one person booths. Due to be delivered late tonight, I believe.

I've been on one of those. At least I hope it was a self-disinfecting one person booth. The other passengers didn't seem too happy.


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NSW haven't got a plan in place yet to handle the hordes of people due to start commuting back to work....

Surely, you'd plan this before making and announcement :uhoh: nt?

Hoverbuses with self-disinfecting one person booths. Due to be delivered late tonight, I believe.


Dude that was Futurama not the news :nod:


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So Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has admitted today that the $130 billion JobKeeper package that the government has been promoting for months will in fact only cost the government $70b, because businesses made mistakes applying for it. Something very fishy is going on.

https://mobile.twitter.com/David_Speers ... 3509401600


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Apparently, according to an FOI, MP Stuart Robert had to pay back $30K he had charged taxpayers for internet to his house on the Gold Coast in 2016. Rather than just get a better plan, he kept paying the charges.

Interesting to note he and his wife are happy clapper Pentecostal fuckwits and his wife runs some god-bothering jeebus streaming service from her house...on the Gold Coast.

Federal ICAC. Now.


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So Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has admitted today that the $130 billion JobKeeper package that the government has been promoting for months will in fact only cost the government $70b, because businesses made mistakes applying for it. Something very fishy is going on.

https://mobile.twitter.com/David_Speers ... 3509401600


Liberals, the Economic party :lol: :lol:

Jim Chalmers is going to make Josh Frydenberg his Private dancer in question time. :nod:

Listening to Patricia Karvelas, she noted that the government has no excuse to spend the rest of the money on stimulus now it's been factored in


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Apparently, according to an FOI, MP Stuart Robert had to pay back $30K he had charged taxpayers for internet to his house on the Gold Coast in 2016. Rather than just get a better plan, he kept paying the charges.

Interesting to note he and his wife are happy clapper Pentecostal fuckwits and his wife runs some god-bothering jeebus streaming service from her house...on the Gold Coast.

Federal ICAC. Now.


Queenslanders mate - white shoe brigade constantly voted in :frown:


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So Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has admitted today that the $130 billion JobKeeper package that the government has been promoting for months will in fact only cost the government $70b, because businesses made mistakes applying for it. Something very fishy is going on.

https://mobile.twitter.com/David_Speers ... 3509401600


Liberals, the Economic party :lol: :lol:

Jim Chalmers is going to make Josh Frydenberg his Private dancer in question time. :nod:

Listening to Patricia Karvelas, she noted that the government has no excuse to spend the rest of the money on stimulus now it's been factored in


Jim Chalmers is the next Labor party leader for sure. Unless there's some dodgy shit he's done in the past that hasn't come out yet, he'll be PM.


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Bindi wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
So Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has admitted today that the $130 billion JobKeeper package that the government has been promoting for months will in fact only cost the government $70b, because businesses made mistakes applying for it. Something very fishy is going on.

https://mobile.twitter.com/David_Speers ... 3509401600


Liberals, the Economic party :lol: :lol:

Jim Chalmers is going to make Josh Frydenberg his Private dancer in question time. :nod:

Listening to Patricia Karvelas, she noted that the government has no excuse to spend the rest of the money on stimulus now it's been factored in


Jim Chalmers is the next Labor party leader for sure. Unless there's some dodgy shit he's done in the past that hasn't come out yet, he'll be PM.


I love Albo but he is merely a bench-warmer.

He'd much better as 2 IC attacking as he is doing now

The major problem is it will look bad if they change


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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Bindi wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
So Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has admitted today that the $130 billion JobKeeper package that the government has been promoting for months will in fact only cost the government $70b, because businesses made mistakes applying for it. Something very fishy is going on.

https://mobile.twitter.com/David_Speers ... 3509401600


Liberals, the Economic party :lol: :lol:

Jim Chalmers is going to make Josh Frydenberg his Private dancer in question time. :nod:

Listening to Patricia Karvelas, she noted that the government has no excuse to spend the rest of the money on stimulus now it's been factored in


Jim Chalmers is the next Labor party leader for sure. Unless there's some dodgy shit he's done in the past that hasn't come out yet, he'll be PM.


I love Albo but he is merely a bench-warmer.

He'd much better as 2 IC attacking as he is doing now

The major problem is it will look bad if they change


No way they should change at the moment. Chalmers has plenty of time.


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I suspect the huge under-spend in Job Keeper is due to the poor design of the program, where many businesses needed to borrow money to pay wages before they were reimbursed. Many businesses just closed down because they couldn't afford to be part of Job Keeper.


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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
So Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has admitted today that the $130 billion JobKeeper package that the government has been promoting for months will in fact only cost the government $70b, because businesses made mistakes applying for it. Something very fishy is going on.

https://mobile.twitter.com/David_Speers ... 3509401600


Liberals, the Economic party :lol: :lol:

Jim Chalmers is going to make Josh Frydenberg his Private dancer in question time. :nod:

Listening to Patricia Karvelas, she noted that the government has no excuse to spend the rest of the money on stimulus now it's been factored in

Frydenberg's a strange one. Reputedly smart - masters degrees from Oxford and Harvard - but he comes across as 'slow'. You wouldn't pick him as someone with a formidable intellect.


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I suspect the huge under-spend in Job Keeper is due to the poor design of the program, where many businesses needed to borrow money to pay wages before they were reimbursed. Many businesses just closed down because they couldn't afford to be part of Job Keeper.



We are still running using our rather generous farm overdraft but will probably close down for good as soon as Jobkeeper ends. AT least we will get the staff through that.
In all likelihood the casuals will then want to double dip and claim extra benefits despite our efforts to help them through this.
In all honesty its just not worth being and employer anymore.


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6.Jones wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
So Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has admitted today that the $130 billion JobKeeper package that the government has been promoting for months will in fact only cost the government $70b, because businesses made mistakes applying for it. Something very fishy is going on.

https://mobile.twitter.com/David_Speers ... 3509401600


Liberals, the Economic party :lol: :lol:

Jim Chalmers is going to make Josh Frydenberg his Private dancer in question time. :nod:

Listening to Patricia Karvelas, she noted that the government has no excuse to spend the rest of the money on stimulus now it's been factored in

Frydenberg's a strange one. Reputedly smart - masters degrees from Oxford and Harvard - but he comes across as 'slow'. You wouldn't pick him as someone with a formidable intellect.


Not sure about when he got his but nowadays, Masters are mostly coursework.

They are just spivs who wouldn't know how to work hard. Very disappointing


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I suspect the huge under-spend in Job Keeper is due to the poor design of the program, where many businesses needed to borrow money to pay wages before they were reimbursed. Many businesses just closed down because they couldn't afford to be part of Job Keeper.



We are still running using our rather generous farm overdraft but will probably close down for good as soon as Jobkeeper ends. AT least we will get the staff through that.
In all likelihood the casuals will then want to double dip and claim extra benefits despite our efforts to help them through this.
In all honesty its just not worth being and employer anymore.


What a piece of shit you are


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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
6.Jones wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
So Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has admitted today that the $130 billion JobKeeper package that the government has been promoting for months will in fact only cost the government $70b, because businesses made mistakes applying for it. Something very fishy is going on.

https://mobile.twitter.com/David_Speers ... 3509401600


Liberals, the Economic party :lol: :lol:

Jim Chalmers is going to make Josh Frydenberg his Private dancer in question time. :nod:

Listening to Patricia Karvelas, she noted that the government has no excuse to spend the rest of the money on stimulus now it's been factored in

Frydenberg's a strange one. Reputedly smart - masters degrees from Oxford and Harvard - but he comes across as 'slow'. You wouldn't pick him as someone with a formidable intellect.


Not sure about when he got his but nowadays, Masters are mostly coursework.

They are just spivs who wouldn't know how to work hard. Very disappointing


Indeed they are [coursework]. I had the pleasure of teaching said spivs for a while.


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In my day......

I farking hate coursework. I need the buzz of exams.

It was fun watching Albo get stuck in today - sometimes I think he forgets that his best tactic is attack


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A couple of Einsteins on this thread, eh.


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Anyway, SA NT ACT have crushed the curve (for now).

No remaining covid cases.


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Not sure about when he got his but nowadays, Masters are mostly coursework.

They are just spivs who wouldn't know how to work hard. Very disappointing


Indeed they are [coursework]. I had the pleasure of teaching said spivs for a while.


Rubbish. I have a masters and like fudge it was mainly coursework.


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Some lazy C&P:

Clive Palmer threatens High Court challenge to WA coronavirus border closure after being denied entry

    ... Mr Palmer described the border closure as stupidity on the part of the WA Government.

    "What [Mr McGowan] is trying to do is against the Australian constitution, and I've got no doubt the High Court will slap him down very quickly," he said. "It's absolute stupidity. What's going to happen in three or four months when our economy is destroyed, people haven't got jobs...

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-22/ ... e/12276368

Canada shuns Australia-style tracing app

    ... Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has pointed to Australia's COVIDSafe tracing app as a reason to wait and use Apple and Google's software when it is released instead. Australia's COVIDSafe app uses Bluetooth technology to record close contacts between people. However, it needs to be kept open and running in the foreground for it to work which drains a phone's battery.

    Trudeau said Canada's testing and tracing capacity needed to be ramped up before the economy could be restarted but said that an app, which would be key in tracking infections, could still be weeks away.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/coronav ... tml#p50l81


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New analysis from the Australia Institute has found that despite Australia being the world’s largest LNG exporter, less than 0.2 per cent of the workforce was employed in the gas industry, and the companies pay little if any tax.


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“The main purpose of recovery funding is to create jobs to tackle expected double digit unemployment in the wake of the Covid 19 crisis,” Mr Merzian said.

“Spending recovery funds on an capital intensive, jobs poor industry completely defeats the purpose.”

The Institute also noted that subsidising gas would shift the focus away from lower cost renewables and lock Australia into higher energy prices and higher emissions for decades.

“Covid 19 recovery spending is a once in a generation opportunity to rebuild Australian manufacturing through cheap renewable energy and new equipment to electrify industrial processes,” he said.[/b]


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Mr Robertson said Australia’s economic recovery needed to focus on industries which are already doing well and had a competitive advantage such as medical technology, agriculture, IT, tourism and zero emission renewable energy.


Morrison is a bought and paid whore for the gas industry!


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New analysis from the Australia Institute has found that despite Australia being the world’s largest LNG exporter, less than 0.2 per cent of the workforce was employed in the gas industry, and the companies pay little if any tax.



Morrison is a bought and paid whore for the gas industry!



It is very easy to take potshots at the tax system, often from position of either knowing farkall about it, or just being as populist on the left as the Hansons of this world are of the right.


I bought shares in Santos, way back in the early nineties, when they were trading at $6.15 or thereabouts. I did so because they seemed to have a good future, producing a commodity that was cleaner than oil. Since then they have spent a motzah on exploration, and also on building LNG refinement facilities, for the export market.

They are now trading at just over $5. Their dividend record over the years has been patchy, and that is certainly true for the last few years, and looks like being so for the forseeable future.

As a general tax principle, companies which re-invest in their businesses are given tax relief until those losses are recouped. This has been so for as long as I can remember, and while the left might posture about this from time to time, everybody who knows anything about business knows that tax write-offs are essential to encourage businesses to invest in the future. The owners of the business, of which I am one, look forward to the day when our investments might pay fruit. When that happens, the business will be paying company tax, and shareholders will be paying income tax.

Santos has just over 2000 employees.


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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 1:26 am 
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Sensible Stephen wrote:
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Not sure about when he got his but nowadays, Masters are mostly coursework.

They are just spivs who wouldn't know how to work hard. Very disappointing


Indeed they are [coursework]. I had the pleasure of teaching said spivs for a while.


Rubbish. I have a masters and like fudge it was mainly coursework.

When did you do your Masters? I suspect it was quite a few years ago.

I did a 'proper' Masters in NZ years ago, I wish I'd just waited and popped out one of the fairly easy Oz ones when I arrived here. (I work in the sector, just to preempt any accusations of me not knowing what I'm talking about :D ).


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UncleFB wrote:
Sensible Stephen wrote:
6.Jones wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:

Not sure about when he got his but nowadays, Masters are mostly coursework.

They are just spivs who wouldn't know how to work hard. Very disappointing


Indeed they are [coursework]. I had the pleasure of teaching said spivs for a while.


Rubbish. I have a masters and like fudge it was mainly coursework.

When did you do your Masters? I suspect it was quite a few years ago.

I did a 'proper' Masters in NZ years ago, I wish I'd just waited and popped out one of the fairly easy Oz ones when I arrived here. (I work in the sector, just to preempt any accusations of me not knowing what I'm talking about :D ).


There's 2 types of Masters - MPhil or Master of Philosophy (usually 2 years research, no coursework, thesis at the end) and Master of Some Discipline, which is a combination of course work and research over 1.5 years.


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Bindi wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
Sensible Stephen wrote:
6.Jones wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:

Not sure about when he got his but nowadays, Masters are mostly coursework.

They are just spivs who wouldn't know how to work hard. Very disappointing


Indeed they are [coursework]. I had the pleasure of teaching said spivs for a while.


Rubbish. I have a masters and like fudge it was mainly coursework.

When did you do your Masters? I suspect it was quite a few years ago.

I did a 'proper' Masters in NZ years ago, I wish I'd just waited and popped out one of the fairly easy Oz ones when I arrived here. (I work in the sector, just to preempt any accusations of me not knowing what I'm talking about :D ).


There's 2 types of Masters - MPhil or Master of Philosophy (usually 2 years research, no coursework, thesis at the end) and Master of Some Discipline, which is a combination of course work and research over 1.5 years.

That's not strictly correct. The AQF doesn't stipulate nomenclature for the research Masters, it does not have to be called an MPhil, and can be a minimum of a year. The "Master of Some Discipline" (course work) does not need to have a combination of course work and research and can be a minimum of 1 year as well.


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